My pitch for a deep sea, Eldritch horror film

>>85522893
(Cont.)
>the technology needed to reach the lab is expensive and takes years, hence the delay.
>they tell marine biologist character A how they finally finished replicating the same submarine vessel they used during the initial sealab building.
>they put together a team and head down.
>from here on out, it's a psychological drama like Alien under the sea.
>they reach the facility and manage to get the life support working again.
>they open incomplete data that shows catalogues of awesome sea creatures they found.
>main character does some digging, realizes how close to the Antartic they are, doesn't care too much...doesn't think that's a big deal.
>they find a survivor hiding in closed off parts of the lab.
>it's his father.
>he's a babbling madman, speaking in German. Son knows he has German ancestry but just thinks his dad is mad.
>need to recover power cells from a shut down portion of the lab, ends up opening a secret shaft into a room filled with. Nazi shit.
>turns out, neo Nazis from an underground Thule remnant infiltrated the team used to build the sealab.
>his dad starts killing people aboard the sealab.
>their presence irks some sort of giant sea animal outside.
>son finds the artifact seen earlier in the prologue.
>sealab is falling apart due to his crazy dad fucking up life systems.
>takes the artifact and tries to navigate a one man craft to fuck out of there.
>last scene is an extended sequence of an Eldritch beast surfacing from slumber to the track of Metallica's Call of Cthulhu.
>fades to black

>>85522893
>flash forward to future, most people are nonwhite.

You lost me and most audiences

>>85522957
>>>/pol/

>>85522893
is the marine biologist the pinguin from that hertzog docu

>>85522984
I never saw that.

Start is good, your ideas went to shit the second they arrived at the facility. Submarine horror and nazi pro log sounds solid though, 6/10 in its currrent state dont feel too bad though 6/10 is what id give interstellar.

>>85523177
Why is it shit when it gets to the facility? I was thinking of an Alien "trapped on a vessel" vibe once down there, to make it claustrophobic.

>>85522893
Here's mine.
>movie trailer
>WHAT IF CTHULU WASN'T JUST A STORY
>ear shattering fart noise
>full frontal shot of Cthulu rising from the sea with water streaming off of its body
>black screen
>coming 2018

>movie
>opening shot is Cthulu rising out of the water
>movie is 2 hours and 45 minutes of Cthulu destroying a city
>ending is Cthulu standing over the leveled city roaring at the sky

>>85523232
I mean, you'd get the autistic demographic for sure.

why not a disney pixar animation with the hero being a pinguin

>>85523232
One day, someone will have the courage to make this. Right now, we still have this meme of dramatic credibility to dispose of where the monster-stomp genre is concerned. The latest Godzilla movie contained more dialogue scenes than Glengarry Glen Ross. I don't understand why this is, but it is. When will they learn that all we want is an epic smashfest?

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>>85523220
Dont ruin it by adding innacraft suspense. If it were me id take advantage of Submechanophobia (fear of underwater things, not neccesarily methulu) and have tons of wide as fuck camera angles that show the vulnerability and remoteness of the submarine / divers. Also try to really capture how uncomfortable it is in a submarine.
and for the love of god, dont actually show methulu, you may give hints and tentacles out the coner of the eye but never directly.

>>85523415
I don't want a Cthulu "smash" fest. I want a spooky, slow burn psychological horror.

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>>85523449
Also remember it is really fucking dark underwater, if possible try to get actual divers and shark attack victims to be your film advisors.

>>85523449
>and have tons of wide as fuck camera angles that show the vulnerability and remoteness of the submarine / divers. Also try to really capture how uncomfortable it is in a submarine.
I thought about this in terms of cinematography and maybe it wasn't clearly lined out in the synopsis but it would be what I want.

>>85523449
I could go for Submechanophobia on a stationary underwater facility down in the darkness of the deep ocean.

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>>85523449
This, underwater shit is just plain spoopy, doesnt even need methulus.

>>85523465
Cthulu's psychology is unknowable. Unknowable.

>>85522951
>>85522893
the nazi remnant stuff that starts taking place seems out of place and unnecessarily complex, scrap that and simplify it somehow while keeping the nazi part at the beginning. Doesn't need the full shot of the monster either at the end. Make the entire thing a lot more concise, have the artifact be an incomprehensible object that drives people insane, frame it like the monoliths in 2001. Maybe hint at a monster but no full on shots. The dad can still be down there and insane I suppose.

>>85523576
Me thinks you shouod skip the cthulu and nazi shit and go straight for the "hyper realistic, tense and scary as fuck industrial diving accident rescue mission simulator"

>>85523689
That's not what was meant.

>>85522893
>>85522951

What does any of this tedium have to do with Cthulu?

>>85523822
Why do I want human psychology when I can see Cthulu fuck a metropolis to pieces?

>>85523832
>what does an undersea Eldritch horror have to do with Cthulu?
Because's he's hinted at all throughout the film, dingus.

>>85523815
That sounds somewhat boring as a horror, besides there has literally never been a deep sea horror with Cthulu.

>>85523815
or how about a rearch submarine panic simulator in the style of 127 hours with people going sea crazy so the cthulu shit doesnt seem out of place. Also tons of this shit...
>>85523449
>>85523566
>>85523638
These freak the fuck out of me for some reason.

>>85523872
But it's not Eldritch in your synopsis, it has no spark of the uncanny about it, just many hours of interpersonal conflict to no end. It's like a no-stakes Das Boot with the promise of Cthulu, which is never really kept. If you end the movie on a glimpse after 40 hours of SyFy-tier single set argument-scene padding, people will rip up the seats.

>>85523978
>guy 1 staring out window
>hears whispering
>sees shit moving
>panic ensues
IVE GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE!!!
>goes to open hatch
GUY 1 NO!!!
>guy 2 pulls guy 1 away from hatch
>que submarine fight

>>85524010
Cthulu is an Eldritch horror you dolt. You act like psychological horror isn't a thing that can be written well.

>>85524080
Cthulu isn't in your movie until the last shot. Psychological horror is fine, but if Cthulu is in your movie, you should use him. Your proposal is a Schumacher-Bane-tier squandering. This guy knows how it should be done: >>85523232

>>85524166
>Your proposal is a Schumacher-Bane-tier squandering.
Fuck off with your memespeak.

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>>85522893
>>85522951
This is a goldmine of shit, 10/10 laugh material

>>85524072
>oxygen running out
>guy 2 looks at window
>sees face
>starts screaming
>guy 1 trues to calm guy 2
>guy 2 goes into full blown meth panic

>>85524166
The less he's shown, the better.

>>85524196
It's not memespeak - you want to waste Cthulu on a talky movie about some cocksuckers in a submarine. That is on par with how Batman and Robin used Bane as a comic henchman.

>>85524244
Bullshit. We've waited all this time, it's time to see something meaty.

>>85523978
>>85524072
>>85524207
This, I would pay to see underwater 127 hours with even more hallucinations and freaking out, 2 people makes it so you can have some dialouge.

>>85524369
>a talky movie about some cocksuckers in a submarine
Yes, it's a slow burn psychological horror.

The BP oilspill deep sea cam was kino

>>85524395
But why should we want to sit through that when you're promising us Cthulu? You can't spend millions of dollars to troll people, if you say Cthulu's going to be in it and you don't deliver, you will bankrupt your entire venture.

>>85524523
>why didn't they show the Jaws shark for the entire movie?
It ruins any payoff to focus on him.

>>85523232
I'd watch.

>>85524558
Jaws appears consistently and at dramatically appropriate times, and he's not Cthulu. Cthulu means destruction. Nobody will sit through an underwater retread of The Keep for a few seconds of Cthulu. I want to see him lay waste to all.

>>85524764
Jaws does not appear consistently you retard

>>85524072
>guy 1 and 2 realise theyre not getting out of this alive
>they take off their wedding rings
>que brokeback mountain

>>85524764
>I want a big dumb action schlock with Cthulu
Yeah, no thanks. Part of his mythos is the study of madness.

>>85524814
He appears at dramatically appropriate points in the structure of the film. It's not an entire movie of people masturbating and then a brief glimpse of the shark tee-heeing on the horizon.

>>85524865
I feel like you never saw Jaws.

lads what are some kino lovecraftian horrors??

>>85524849
No, I want pure cinema. I assume your favorite parts of Godzilla movies are the padding scenes of people in offices.

Cthulu will induce madness as I see it. The movie the other anon suggests, I picture as having people occasionally react, and we'll see their derangement. But briefly, it'll be punctuation. Sudden insane screams of extreme horror.

>>85524899
Yes, I saw Jaws. Do you feel that the shark's appearances in that movie *aren't* dramatically appropriate?

You guys do realise OP isnt a director and doesnt have any money?

If I didn't know OP was b8ing, I'd be worried for him.

>>85525020
It's a hypothetical situation, but if he ever wanted to pitch this - and why not, we all have dreams - he'd need to have something that would draw dimes.

>>85522984
>the marine biologist is the pinguin from that hertzog docu
Basing a Lovecraft story around that penguin would be a million times better than OP's garbage idea.

>>85524967
They rarely show the shark you fucking autistic retard because they couldn't get the robot to work so it rarely comes up on screen. You are absolutely fucking stupid.

>>85524207
God damnit now I want to watch this movie that will never be made.

>>85525066
>I need Transformers with Cthulu

>>85525113
It doesn't suffer from a lack of shark action whatever the behind-the-scenes reason. Cthulu is something different.

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>>85525113
>Spielbergs original concept if the damn technology wasnt holding him back.

>>85524924
The Void is pretty great.

>>85522957
Get a life you pasty fat loser.

>>85523026
https://youtu.be/zWH_9VRWn8Y

>>85525177
>It doesn't suffer from a lack of shark action whatever the behind-the-scenes reason
Yea, it literally does you loon.How do you not know that?

>>85525151
No, the Transformers films have far too many superfluous scenes with human characters, but you're thinking along the right lines. When Cthulu emerges from the sea, we're in a post-human situation, and the movie should play that straight or not exist. Transformers + Cloverfield - plucky survivors bullshit is about where we want to go. Shots of people bearing their teeth and literally voiding their bowels in ancient, nameless terror is the way to go with the human element. This could be one of the great movies of this century, a landmark of the medium, if it was given to a director with the courage to make it.

>>85525271
>Transformers + Cloverfield
Please fucking stop.

>>85525267
Stop b8ing, Jaws doesn't need more shark. Only a total nimrod would think that.

>>85525309
The dash after Cloverfield is actually a minus sign, I should clarify. Cloverfield WITHOUT the plucky survivors bullshit.

>>85525312
I never said that it does, faggot.

>>85525366
Then why did you call me a "loon" for saying that it didn't suffer from a lack of shark action? It literally didn't suffer, it's great as it is.

>>85523815
>hyper realistic, tense and scary as fuck industrial diving accident rescue mission simulator"
2spooky4me
Make it lovecraftian by modernizing Shadow Over Innsmouth. Instead of fishing, they're drilling for oil, or mining the sea floor, or salvaging wrecks. The MC is a newb or a reporter or something.
The underlying horror of the original story was the secret that the townsfolk (wasps) has been breeding with the fish people (Foreigners), and dun dun dun, the main character was actually descended from one of the townies. That kind of perspective isn't as acceptable in the Current Year, so maybe something boring, like human sacrifices, could be used instead.

>>85523232
KINO

>>85525409
Because the movie literally was supposed to have more shark footage, on a technical level.

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>movie
>opening shot is Cthulu rising out of the water
>movie is 2 hours and 45 minutes of Cthulu destroying a city
>ending is Cthulu standing over the leveled city roaring at the sky

>*WARNER BROS.*
>*LIONS GATE*
>Shot of atlantis, on its walls; Egyptian Hyeroglyphics that show Cthulu
>INNSMOUTH HOTEL, there are thugs who are conceald in very heavy clothing
>Large, hooded thug pulls down his hood to reveal that he is a giant CGI shark man with reptile eyes
>Military troops are shooting cgi starfish monsters on the coastline, cops and swat are trying to take out fish people, stronk womyn is beating up green-frog-like-hybrids
>That weird slomo bwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu- and an underwater explosion sound as a tomb is being destroyed
>Submarine is approaching a huge crevace made in the tomb, as tentacles comes out to that psudeo slo-mo st-st-st-st-studder stop, grabbing the sub.
>all leads previously shown in the movie is now stopping whatever their doing as looking at the camera,
>Ear shattering fart noise as Cthulu rises out of the water
>Donald Trump is ebil, him and his frog minions have the NecroCon (shortened for ease of digestion), trying to ctrulu cthulu
>Cthulu roars into the camera for a full 10 seconds, glass shattering and all
>Drumpf hair
>As Cthulu is about to smash the camera
>SUMMER 2018 SEE IN IMAX 3D

>>85525271
>>85525309
>>85525345

I think the people in the distance maybe, catching a small glimpse, could be shown in Pompeii-style last minute desperate fucking - this could add the raunch a commercial movie needs, or could even take a morbid turn if we stay true to the madness caused by the merest glimpse. So a guy looking out from a clifftop house some distance away sees Cthulu in the distance, and starts to rape his dog, his mouth frothing, and we see in his eyes he's completely GONE. People dashing their heads to pieces on the ground. I mean, this would be done in a few seconds here, a few seconds there, a net picture of horrible insane carnage, and then we'd get back to the main event - Cthulu.

>>85525501
But why bring that up when what I said is true and you don't even disagree? Are you autistic?

>>85524207
>guy 1 dies first
>guy 2 sobbing in corner
>guy 2 looks over at guy 1
>guy 1 raises his head and looks at guy 2 with an unatural head movement
>guy 2s starts doing creepy fucked up shit that i cant think of
>guy 1 is screaming
>guy 1 is back up against the wall
>shot of guy 1 loosing his shit followed by shot of guy 1 being perfectly still and dead
>cuts back to guy 1 screaming for help
>immediatley goes silent as it cuts to wide out view of sub lights illuminating a spot of seabed in pitch black on ocean floor

>>85525565
Because the argument was literally if the movie was meant to have more shark footage...

>>85525616
No it wasn't, I never raised that issue in any way, shape or form. I'm talking about the movie that exists, as structured.

>>85525526
>>Donald Trump is ebil, him and his frog minions have the NecroCon (shortened for ease of digestion), trying to ctrulu cthulu
>>Cthulu roars into the camera for a full 10 seconds, glass shattering and all
>>Drumpf hair

They'd do this, wouldn't they?

The point is that nobody is stronk with Cthulu. CTHULU is the last thing you ever fucking see. He's night. He puts your shit to sleep with no comeback. You are ashes on the ground.

>>85522951
>>85522893
god that sucks I bet it could get made though

there was that Indie Innsmouth adaption a couple of years back that I can find nothing new about

https://lovecraftzine.com/2015/11/16/teasertrailer-for-the-upcoming-the-shadow-over-innsmouth-film/

>>85525681
>No it wasn't
Holy shit bud. This isn't even a secret, the shark prop they got was barely working and technical problems fucked up the shoot so Spielberg filmed around it and used what he could.

You are seriously a fucking autist.

>>85525721
Please let it be camera lense glass breaking effect.

>>85522951

Hello, /v/. I love your story idea! it sounds so "fuarken epic" and "cuhrayzee". Take all my money!!! haha

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>Silent pan of the ocean
>This starts playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeR7uTqEQY&ab_channel=EpicHeavenMusic
>"Imagine a world"
>shot of underwater city
>"where we weren't the first"
>fart noise, stone cracking
>"to arrive here"
>A huge eye can be seen through a crevice
>tracking shot of a helicopter
>"we've got company boys" crackles over the radio
>gun fire, grenades exploding
>Cthulhu rises from the ocean
>shots of destroyed city
>close up shot of the protagonist with an rpg
>"ia ia this you son of a bitch"
>rocket zooming towards cthulhus scared face
>explosion
>"THE"
>deep one rising out of the water being shot at by US troops
>"CALL"
>navy seals dropping into desert shooting at nyarlathotep
>"OF"
>nerdy character reading the necronomicon looking surprised
>"CTHULHU"
>coming november 8th

>>85525769
>WAHHH it sucks
I don't know why I bothered to share with a board that thinks the Star Wars prequels are masterpieces and that Citizen Kane sucks.

>>85525773
The "No it wasn't" referred to the fact that this information wasn't at issue, the issue is that the film uses the shark at the right moments for maximum effect. What matters is what's on the screen, and if nobody had mentioned those problems, nobody would have thought the movie was playing for time or padding around them, it works as a film.

>>85525805
People are giving you actual advice faggit, and theyre telling you to make a movie about sub trapped on ocean floor with hullucintaions and spoopy shit.

>>85525775
Fuck yes.

>>85525790
kek, but seriously, there's not going to be a *rises from the wreckage, blinking* moment with Cthulu.

>>85525805

It does suck though. Are you fucking 15?

>>85525898
>the issue is that the film uses the shark at the right moments for maximum effect.
I am trying to explain how this wasn't an intentional choice for the film.

>>85525962
Use your words then.

>>85525805
>nazis
>it was his dad
>clover field ending
>Metallica
>doesn't suck

just watch hellboy, you probably like shit like that

>>85526079
>Hellboy was bad
>(((tips)))

>>85526000
I'm trying to explain that yes, it was, because what they shot and how they edited it involved hundreds of choices that made it work as a film when it easily couldn't have. Instead of mindlessly repeating famous production lore, try devoting some attention to how films are made.

>>85526079
>80s Metallica sucks
Neo-/tv/ is full of retarded kids.

>>85526115
hellboy is just capeshit

As much as it pains me to say, the only director who could pull of a good c'thulu mythos movie is Michael Bay.

>>85526157
It's the badass music following a cocksucking movie that makes it suck as a pitch. Like if they'd played "War Pigs" at the end of My Dinner with Andre.

>>85526146
>Three full-size pneumatically powered prop sharks—which the film crew nicknamed "Bruce" after Spielberg's lawyer, Bruce Ramer—were made for the production:[45] a "sea-sled shark", a full-body prop with its belly missing that was towed with a 300 feet (91 m) line, and two "platform sharks", one that moved from camera-left to -right (with its hidden left side exposing an array of pneumatic hoses), and an opposite model with its right flank uncovered.[5] The sharks were designed by art director Joe Alves during the third quarter of 1973. Between November 1973 and April 1974, the sharks were fabricated at Rolly Harper's Motion Picture & Equipment Rental in Sun Valley, California. Their construction involved a team of as many as 40 effects technicians, supervised by mechanical effects supervisor Bob Mattey, best known for creating the giant squid in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. After the sharks were completed, they were trucked to the shooting location.[46] In early July, the platform used to tow the two side-view sharks capsized as it was being lowered to the ocean floor, forcing a team of divers to retrieve it.[47] The model required 14 operators to control all of the moving parts.[38]

>The film had a troubled shoot and went far over budget. David Brown said that the budget "was $4 million and the picture wound up costing $9 million";[48] the effects outlays alone grew to $3 million due to the problems with the mechanical sharks.[49] Disgruntled crew members gave the film the nickname "Flaws".[38][45] Spielberg attributed many problems to his perfectionism and his inexperience. The former was epitomized by his insistence on shooting at sea with a life-sized shark; "I could have shot the movie in the tank or even in a protected lake somewhere, but it would not have looked the same," he said.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaws_(film)

>>85526299
Cont.

>The delays proved beneficial in some regards. The script was refined during production, and the unreliable mechanical sharks forced Spielberg to shoot many scenes so that the shark was only hinted at. For example, for much of the shark hunt, its location is indicated by the floating yellow barrels.[55] The opening had the shark devouring Chrissie,[13] but it was rewritten so that it would be shot with Backlinie being dragged and yanked by cables to simulate an attack.[34] Spielberg also included multiple shots of just the dorsal fin. This forced restraint is widely thought to have added to the film's suspense.[55] As Spielberg put it years later, "The film went from a Japanese Saturday matinee horror flick to more of a Hitchcock, the less-you-see-the-more-you-get thriller."[38] In another interview, he similarly declared, "The shark not working was a godsend. It made me become more like Alfred Hitchcock than like Ray Harryhausen." The acting became crucial for making audiences believe in such a big shark: "The more fake the shark looked in the water, the more my anxiety told me to heighten the naturalism of the performances."[24]

They literally rewrote the script because of the problems, you dumb cunt.

>>85525199
Shut the fuck up angry shitskin

>>85526234
Please tell me what makes a movie a "cocksucker", I am unfamiliar with this film criticism.

>>85526299
This is just autism. What they did with what they could get was creative. The shark is used judiciously at the right moments for the best effects. Movies don't jump fully-formed from directors' heads, there are always questions of pragmatics and compromise. Either you're autistic or this is bait. Either way, fuck off.

>>85526224
>Megan fox is on mechanics cart underneath submarine
>US navy crashes aircraft carrier into cthulu
>America wins

>>85526391
See
>>85526342
THEY REWROTE SCRIPT TO DEAL WITH PRODUCTION ISSUES.

>>85526342
You've quoted a paragraph in which Spielberg confirms what I said in the posts you're REEing at.

>This forced restraint is widely thought to have added to the film's suspense.[55] As Spielberg put it years later, "The film went from a Japanese Saturday matinee horror flick to more of a Hitchcock, the less-you-see-the-more-you-get thriller."[38] In another interview, he similarly declared, "The shark not working was a godsend. It made me become more like Alfred Hitchcock than like Ray Harryhausen."

>>85526382
A movie that promises something impressive and cinematic and delivers many minutes of cheap filler talking scenes, then has a brief shot of the impressive thing at the end as if to say "haha, you ain't getting this, suckers, thanks for the money" is a cocksucker by a cocksucker.

>>85526441
Holy shit, we aren't talking about retrospect here. We are talking about how production problems forced him to change the film's tone.

You are the most autistic faggot I have ever seen.

>>85526478
Well it's a good thing I didn't write that.

>>85526482
He's talking about what he did on the film to create the end result. What I've said is confirmed, not contradicted by the stuff you're quoting without bothering to even process it. Stop shitting up the thread. Jaws works because Spielberg used the means at his disposal to their best effect. I'm not answering any more of your autistic spluttering.

>>85523220
Not bad, OP. I'd suggest making the Thalia's a *truly* underground society - living in caverns beneath Antarctica and all Redhooked out.

You could have it where the sea lab discovered an entrance to their caverns through a system of submerged caves, which leads to the ruins of an ancient city.

>>85526521
You did, you have The Keep under the sea, then at the end, a glimpse of Cthulu.

Quite apart from what you think would make a good movie, let's be honest, Cthulu will only ever make it in a big-budget movie as pure spectacle.

>>85526578
What an illiterate fag you are. It's astounding. I even show you the Wikipedia article explaining the production issues and you still are autistic as fuck about it.

Kill yourself, buddy.

>>85522893
>flashback
>>85522893
>flash forward to the year 2050

End.
Yourself.

>>85526645
You both sound like a bunch of homos

>>85526631
>Only I know what would make a great movie

>>85526649
What's your issue buddy?

>>85526685
No, I'm saying, putting aside our respective tastes, they're never going to use Cthulu except as spectacle, are they?

I'll never understand why they don't just make Call of Cthulhu. There's one major seen where he actually appears, they sort of beat him then get the fuck out of there, and that's it. It's even got the flashback-y structure that lots of movies and TV shows love right now.

>>85526809
ITT: People enthuse about ways to completely fucking waste the ultimate dread.

Hey guys, let me show you my screenplay about a cake shop in Gotham City that Batman runs past once.

>>85522893
Watered down under the sea mountains of madness: Nazi Edition

>>85526926
Sounds great.

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>>85522951
>the technology needed to reach the lab is expensive and takes years, hence the delay.

>build a lab on the ocean floor
>can't get to it

>>85527067
Sounds like exactly what would happen, desu

bump
this is an interesting thread

>>85525790
This is how you do it guys.