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Where the FUCK is the Dunkirk thread you faggots?

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Where the FUCK is the Dunkirk thread you faggots?
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Here
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better than Saving Private Ryan
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worse than saving Private Ryan. Literally say nothing about the french resistance army.
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>>85479566
>french
>relevant
fuck off pierre
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Great visuals
Great noise
No content
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6C5P-AYGdY
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>>85479741
>>85479597
For you britcuck
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>>85479243
https://youtu.be/cN3yrJP24-I
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>>85479616

Literally the summary of every Nolan movie.
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BTFO
How will nolan ever recover
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>>85480079

started a thread about this but no replies. it's a long article but it BTFOs nolan.

>a bizarre set of events garnished with grating sentimentality
>What’s mainly happening, however, is that lots of soldiers are waiting around. Escapades, not altogether convincing, are therefore contrived for a few of them
>Film-makers usually instil interest in their protagonists by giving them backstories and meaningful dialogue, thereby creating characters who can be engaged in drama. In Dunkirk, these things don’t happen.
>in spite of his film’s $150m budget, the Royal Air Force seems to consist of three Spitfires
>at least I now understand why I didn’t get it: there was nothing to get
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>>85480079
people are just mad hat Nolan finally made a good film (his first in over a decade)

The masses will call this a boring empty mess wih no characters (normies are notoriously obsessed with characters and plot) but this movie is a masterful visual experience.
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>>85480179
War doesn't have characters, just faceless soldiers
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>>85480237

normally this would be obvious bait, but with nolanfags you can never be sure.
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>>85480237
>Nolan finally made a good film
Inception and The dark knight are better than this.
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>>85480237
>masterful visual experience
pfahahaha
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>>85479597
>defense of dunkirk is the only thing the french army did in 1940
>not even aknowledge in a movie about the defense of dunkirk
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Just watched. Top fucking tier.
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Is Dunkino the ultimate pleb filter?
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The guys on the civilian boat were the only interesting characters.
Branagh had a couple good lines.
Bane taking off mask was a letdown.
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>>85480179
The royal airforce was mainly grounded as they wanted a) to save as much as they could for later and b) it was shit weather at Dunkirk, which also prevented most of the German planes from bombing the brits efficiently.

>i need backstory and drama

Fucking women, I swear to God.
Nolan gives us the best kino of 2017, and women (surprise, surprise) don't understand it.
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>>85481056
you probably didnt watch the movie because the french are mentioned multipul times
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>>85481308
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>>85481468
So according to you, we should have had a 6 hour long movie where we see all 3500 sorties (over two weeks, mind you)?

The opening sequence starts with "1 week, one day, one hour" and the movies end with something along the lines of "these were just some of the stories of Dunkirk", so we get to see three planes and their hour long mission over Dunkirk, it makes perfect sense.

And yes, Nolan is correct, using CGI is essentially the same as the audience playing "make believe" and pretending that the ocean is full of destroyers.
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>Help ahm fallin down the stair, guv! Cor blimey ahm dead as the doornail ain't I?!
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>>85481468
>using CGI is giving up
>gives up trying to make things look up to scale
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>>85480179
What the fuck is this obsession with backstories and "meaningful dialogue"? Every single thing anypne says in the movie is important and moves the plot and story, fuck, only the soldiers don't get a backstory, Rylance and George and his son all get one.

Were people really expecting something like SPR where soldiers literally have time to stand around and trade life stories while waiting for an attack? I mean, that's the whole point, they were always so shitty in Dunkirk they dodn't have the time or need to fucking talk about whatever.
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>>85481056
>French
>capable of defending anything
LOL
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>>85481594

that's according to that guy. according to me movies need characters you care about.

nolan is a fucking hack. kubrick comparisons are fucking laughable.
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>>85480079
>boring
I don't see how people can possibly say that. It had constant tension right through the movie.
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>>85481746
because >muh dialogue
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>>85481692
At least they tried their best
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+visuals and sounds were godly
+harry styles was surprisingly good
+that fucking tension
+no SJW bullshit
+the practical effects stuff really makes a difference

-needed a higher age rating for a bit more violence/blood
-soundtrack was basic and repetitive
-kid dying was pretty fucking pointless
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>>85479243
Just saw a bootleg copy of this movie
Doesn't change the fact it's not very good

spoilers: redpilled movie that culminates with msm propaganda at work. one of the brits kills a kid (he's on the civ yacht/boat pressed into service by the royal navy) because he's too scared to go back and face the enemy

Honestly just watch an Oats Studio short, they're 100X better than this. Wait for a good blu-ray rip, you're not missing anything
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>>85482080
>uses the term 'redpilled' to describe a movie
You do realise your opinion is worthless?
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>>85482147
How else would you describe the depiction/exposure of blatant propaganda shown to a mass audience.. in an abridged way?

I went with "redpilled" just to keep it short. I guess I could've just said: "it exposes propaganda" but it's already said and done
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>>85482305
>World War 2 Propaganda in 2017
You're over thinking this
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>>85481056
>not even aknowledge in a movie about the defense of dunkirk

It's a movie about the evacuation of Dunkirk though.
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S O L I D M O V I E
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>>85481236
>Bane taking off mask
Did he die?
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>>85479243
idgi why were the bongs allowed to have guns? Why weren't they using deadly assault spoons?
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Dunkirk is decent at best. The people calling this a pleb filter or a masterpiece are the same people who love Zach Snyder and whose favorite movies include American Psycho and Fight Club. Dunkirk, though better than most of Nolan's other films, is entry level at best.
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so what happened after Farrier was captured?

cut to Bane transformation?
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>>85483997
ur mouth can filter my cum in ur mom's puss
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got home from the movie with brother, talk to gran about it.
>her father was at dunkirk
>evacuated in destroyer
>btfo by nazis
>escaped ship barely in pitch black just like the movie
>floating in the water for ages all alone
>was only found because his wife bought him a new watch before the watch that illuminates
>gets rescued
same shit happened again near the end of the war but that was in russia
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>>85481681
im with this guy

also, giving the soldiers no backstory and not showing much conversations, but rather following them as they quietly observe and survive really helpes to imagen oneself in their shoes instead of just relating to them

for me this movie was like going to war and i felt like having slight ptsd when it ended.

no other war movie has done that for me ever
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>>85484514
>it's an experience!!!
fuckin hell
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>>85484650
not sure if you're serious or not but i def ment what i said
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>>85479243
It retreated
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>>85479243
https://youtu.be/4mjAPF4kU4o
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>>85484017
Maybe getting caught was part of his plan
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>>85485401
made it about 45 seconds into the video.... had to close the tab
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>>85485401
so what did she bring to the table that other youtube """""critics"""""" haven't already mentioned?
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>>85486028
She basically spends the first half of the review bitching about the "dishonest" portrayal of british troops.

That British soldiers were fine upstanding, award-winning soldiers that would never act selfishly towards their own countrymen
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>>85481236
>The guys on the civilian boat were the only interesting characters.
In which we get the boy who crowds the boat then dies from a little stumble like some glass faggot.
Nolan starts a few interesting dramatic arcs then seemingly purposely fizzles them. The suspense moments similarly start off very well done but end up hollow.
Drives me crazy how he is such a swirl of genius and shit.
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>>85486449
>little stumble

He fell down a flight of stairs and BASHED his head on a fucking metal pipe

Construction workers hit their head with less effort than that on metal objects and spend the rest of their lives disabled
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>>85479243
Reminder that Nolan is a literal cuck.
He has admitted numerous times that he is a cuckold and enjoys watching his wife have sex with niggers.
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>>85480783
kill yourself
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>>85481623
>ain't I?
>not innit
you are a disgrace my lad
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>>85487050
you go first
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>>85480659
The dark knight is garbage though. The dark knight rises, thats a different story
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>>85487143
I'd rather find out where you live first and come beat your ass for being a retard on the internet.
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I genuinely feel sorry for everyone who will watch Dunkirk first time when the torrent is out. I can't imagine someone experiencing the same thing when that first Stuka beach attack comes in if you watch it on your computer. The cinema experience is worth it for the sound alone.
That first shot when the brit is drinking water visibly startled the entire theatre where I was, every single shot in the film had weight to it. One of the better cinema experiences of recent times.
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>>85487250
this.
the roar of the airplanes was frightening
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>>85487250
>tfw $6,000 home theater system with a 65 inch HDR TV

>still going to be nowhere near enough as watching Dunkirk in the cinema
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>>85487236
I'd like to see your faggy fat ass get out of the house
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>>85480237
My broher, who is as normie as you can be, found it boring and meaningless.
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>>85487250
>>85487421
>>85487507
>muh sound effects
The state of the average movie goer
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Tom Hardy's performance was brilliant considering most of what we see of him is just one eye.
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>>85479243
It was a great movie.
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>>85487772
more like
the state of sad anon who's IMAX is the shit standard size one and he can't afford a ticket anyway
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>>85487772

is /tv/ really like this?
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>>85487772
t. plot driven surface-level filthy casual tourist crossposter
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>>85486563
>regularly accused of being a crypto-fascist
>literally less than a handful of black characters in his entire filmography
>"I know, THIS is the director we should call a cuck"
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pic related was better desu
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did anyone else notice how most of the military men had exaggerated blue eyes? Probably to match the sea and all, but if there are lunatics complaining about how there were no People of Colour™ I wonder how they feel about there not even being any brown eyes.

blue eyes are aesthetic as fuck too
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>>85488741
And Belmondo >>>> Hardy
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>>85488741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5OcHE6-8NM
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>>85488975
>Captain asking a Sergeant if he can read a map
No wonder the French lost so badly.
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>>85479243

>"Alas,I have become The Dunkirk"
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>>85487853
>tfw no full-size film IMAX in my town
In fact only digital IMAX in my whole country
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>>85487170
>garbage
Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
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>>85488975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKC4B60OwaU
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>>85481692
The French have a far better war record than you Americucks.
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>>85489135
he can tho
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>>85489226
awesome atmosphere right there
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>>85489376
Yes, but the fact that the Captain has to ask implies that reading a map isn't a skill every single Sergeant possesses. Rumbles the thinker.
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Dunkirk > Interstellar > Inception > All three dark knight movies > The Prestige > Memento
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>>85489454
The way he says it is idiomatic.
That's his way of asking.
French people are talkative.
And you're indeed overthinking this.
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>>85479243
It was not that entertaining to watch. It is probably those movies that you enjoy to see and experience, but will rarely ever want to go back and watch it again for the sake of enjoyment/entertainment. It is utterly boring but it IS pretty cool to look at and experience. Don't get me wrong, it is not exactly a bad movie, just not a movie that is set to entertain people who wants to relax.
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Dunkirk?

More like DUN KINO!

AM I RIGHT DUDES? KINO!
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RAF?
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>>85489803
>The way he says it is idiomatic.
No it's not.
>That's his way of asking.
He asked "where?", that's all he should have had to ask.
>French people are talkative.
Not in the military.
>And you're indeed overthinking this.
Not really, I was just making a joke because that question is out of place.
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>>85483878
No, but it was extremely painful
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>>85489814
Is Dunkirk the 2001 of WW2?
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>>85489978
t. never met a french guy
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>>85489135
>489135
>he ca
It's strange that you'd know French, but then don't realize that it's a cue for him to show it on the map.

It's how the French talk sometimes: rethorical questin -> order.
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>>85479243
Why did Tom Hardy surrender at the end? Why are all of Nolan's endings confusing?
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Trash flick. Go the fuck back to r/movies.
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>>85490145
What was he supposed to do?
Kill himself?
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>>85490085
I'm French.
>>85490111
It doesn't sound like that at all, and it's even less convincing coming from a military officer.
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>>85490145
(you) [insert bane posting here]
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>>85479566
No white flags anywhere?
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>>85489573
Where's insomnia?
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>>85490194
t. never watched a 60's movie
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>>85489173
wtf where do you live?
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>>85490249
I watched plenty, not sure what point you're trying to make with that.
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>>85490194
I don't know, since I thought it was pretty typical of how a French conversation would evolve, where a lot is stream-lined and unsaid:
>vous savez lire une carte ducon
>[ben oui espèce de con]
>[ah bah justement montre moi]
>[ah d'accord]
Expect the part in brackets is dismissed. It's how I do things anyways.

>>85490218
Why you got to suck Dubya's dick bro?
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>>85490190
Parachute off at the beach. Get a hero's welcome. Hitch a ride home.

Could've even managed to get a thankfulfuck out of the housewives. The husband's would've obliged and might've even enjoyed watching an airforce chad take a turn on their wife

>>85490214
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>>85490300
That was the joke, kind of. These dudes are military, Bebel is a sergeant, and officers don't typically do chit-chat. Would have gone more like
>where?
>*turns around and looks at map, waiting*
>well, are you going to show me or do I have to explain you how to read a putain de map?
Anyway I think that horse and well and truly dead now.
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>>85490385
>Parachute off at the beach.
And let his plane crash into the men on the ground? Grats I guess. Also it's been reported that a lot of stranded airmen were prevented from being allowed back into the ships out of the resentment boiling in the infantrymen who'd felt (rightfully) abandonned by the RAF.

>>85490416
Hmm pourquoi pas. I guess we have to remember it's a movie, and that the script writes them out in cinematic conversations, where a simple "where" wouldn't do.

But yah this argument is stupid since you see what I mean, and I see what you mean.
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>>85489978
>>85490194
>He asked "where?", that's all he should have had to ask.
>I was just making a joke because that question is out of place.
>It doesn't sound like that at all, and it's even less convincing coming from a military officer.

>Capitaine, voila un sous officier du 110eme RI
>Vous êtes du 110eme?

See what I did?
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>>85490300
t. Michel Audiard
kek
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>>85490489
>Capitaine, voila un sous officier du 110eme RI
>Vous êtes du 110eme?
The Captain gets a bit of info from a third party, he's asking the question directly to the relevant guy not to make chitchat but to make sure that the info is accurate, not the same situation.
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>>85479243
Just got back from seeing it. >>85479445 is 100% correct.
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>>85490487
After they saw him literally take out a focke-wulf midair with zero gas on his engine, I'd think the soldiers would be more than obliged to save a spot for him in a dinghy
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>>85479767
i am greek
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>>85490620
Oh welp I'm retarded. But still stand by my point that he was either scared that the Germans would capture an intact Spitfire had it glided down without his being there to set it ablaze, or that it could've rammed into some soldiers/boats while going down on its own.
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>>85490583
That, or maybe he just talks like a human being and not a fucking robot, you turboautist.
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>>85490701
>French army officer
>human being
>not a fucking robot
Broke my suspension of bisbelief right here mon pote.
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>>85490763
>mfw Davout's nickname being "the iron marshal"
It FITS!
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>>85490620
>>85490698
Well, a pilot is supposed to land his plane, not jump out of it because he feels like it.
Also, good luck swimming with a parachute, or not being shot at while flying wherever the wind carries you and not kill yourself landing.
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>>85490763

t. jamais entendu parler de la 7eme compagnie
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>>85490841
Crash landing a plane was often more dangerous than bailing out, even though most pilots seem to prefer it to the idea of jumping out of a plane. Not sure about how it was in mid 1940, but parachute harness had a quick release thing just in case you were landing in water.
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>>85490935
[citation needed]
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>>85490885
I have, but I was under the impression that Dunkirk was a slightly different genre, was I wrong?
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it was boring, none of the characters were interesting and for a movie which was supposed to be about a fleet of civilians saving 300k soldiers the scale was pitiful. The monotone churchill speech at the end was pure cringe.
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>>85490975
I've read an assload of WW2 memoirs from a bunch of pilots. One of them in particular described a scene where the pilot could have bailed out, but decided to crash land and ended up into a formless charred blob of flesh.
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>>85490935
>parachute harness had a quick release thing just in case you were landing in water

I see.
That's probably why the other pilot choose a water landing over a parachute jump, I suppose?
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>>85490978
Well, that was not from 'Dunkirk', that was from 'Weekend a Zuydcoote'.
So I guess you're wrong?
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>>85491082
IRL there is/was a lot of risks associated with bailing out. You could get smacked by the tail section on your way out, your parachute might fail to open, or you might break your legs or spine upon landing.
There was also tons of risks associated with a crash landing, like overturning, burning, or both while being stuck in the cockpit. But I guess in most people's mind, you'd go for the danger that comes later. And in case of the landing, you can feel like you're in control.
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>>85491058
>the pilot could have bailed out, but decided to crash land and ended up into a formless charred blob of flesh
Saving many lives in the process of not letting his plane crash in a school or whatever, you mean?
>an assload of WW2 memoirs from a bunch of pilots
sounds more like watching GI Joe desu
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>>85491254
>Saving many lives in the process of not letting his plane crash in a school or whatever, you mean?
That was a concern for many, but in that particular incident the guy was over his home airfield in still daylight so he could have had a good enough amount of control on where his plane was going to end up. I think he was even instructed to but I'm not sure and don't have the book at hand.
>sounds more like watching GI Joe desu
Pardon?
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I don't understand the "no character development" criticism
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>>85490229
in the trash
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>>85491128
>that was from 'Weekend a Zuydcoote'
I know, and that movie wasn't a comedy either, unlike the 7eme compagnie, so what are you even saying?
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>>85491510
>what are you even saying?
I am saying that reading comprehension is not your strong card.
also :
>Belmondo
>not a comedy
pick one
anyway, this is becoming tedious
i'm out
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Rylance was so fucking based.
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This film lacked soul. It was bland and boring.
There was no sense of drama, not in the ship sinking, not in the dogfights, not during the scene when the boat was being shot for target practice, nor in the scene where the pilot was trying to escape from the sinking plane.
The beach at Dunkirk looked too clean.
The only sense of 'drama' I got was when the two guys were trying to cross the plank with the stretcher.
As with the Dark Knight, Nolan clearly doesn't know hot to make set pieces.

This movie was disappointing in so many levels.

The only good part about it is the realistic sounds.

But if I wanted to watch something with realistic WWII sounds I might as well watch Girls und Panzer der Film.
At least I get cute girls and tankwondo.
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>>85491822
>imply something extremely stupid
>"I'm out"
Good call.
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>evil one-dimensional Germans
>one of the main character is Jewish
>that one token minority added to please SJWs
fuck Nolan
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>>85479566
>French """resistance"""
kek
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>>85491944
>that one token minority added to please SJWs

I unironically can't remember any blacks in the film

Or is this just bait?
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>>85491940
i'm not really out, though!
it was all just an elaborate ruse to have you shut the fuck up!
>replies anyway
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>>85490698
Could've jumped off after he cleared the assembly lines.
>>85490841
The brits had the beach all to themselves. No one was going to shoot at bane from a kilometer away
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>>85491998
Look up the German losses in the short battle of France, it wasn't too shabby.
>>85492080
>I was just pretending to be pretending to be retarded, ha ha
Got me good.
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>>85492064
Very start of the movie some french soldiers are trying to get to the pier, one of them is a darkie.
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>get rekt by Germans
>flee to homecountry when Germans offer peace
>call French cowardly
Anglos never cease to amaze me
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>>85492146
>27,000 KIA
>Hitler was anticipating 1,000,000

HAHAHAHHA
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>>85479243
9/10 best movie of the year by far

I'm sure the contrarians are already doing their thing but it's going to be an uphill battle this time
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>>85492186
France had "African" units since WW1 or even before.
>>85492259
Look at the aircraft losses and compare to the battle of Britain, taking into account the time frame.
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>>85491903
10/10
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>>85492333
I'll give you that the ease of taking France probably fueled Hitler's autism into invading the USSR which began his inevitable downfall. So thank you France
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>>85492189
>when Germans offer peace
>trusting G*rms on their word
Yeah, just like the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, the G*rms really held to their word there, didn't they?

Daily reminder
https://youtu.be/4ztOV2wrrkY
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>>85492410
In the meantime he failed to cross the channel so I doubt it went like that in his head.
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Pure edge-of-the-seat kino
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>>85481746
>Fucking normies not already knowing that 50k would get captured and the rest evacuated
plebs
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>>85479243
Just got back from this

Is Nolan the greatest director of the past 20 years? This is an unironic question

You never really think about how much films can affect you emotionally, until you see one that really does. I'm considering taking the train to the capital just to be able to see it in IMAX, is it worth it?
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>>85492579
Just got back from IMAX. Yes.
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>>85481746
B-but it had no shoehorned romance or boring backstories!
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>People are actually complaining that there aren't characters telling about their loved ones back home and an old dude one day from retirement
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>>85492698
Yeah it seems like the negative reviews and the mouth breathers here are all upset that Nolan deviated from the SPR formula

Bravo!
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>>85492604
>tfw live in Swecuckistan
>tfw only one proper IMAX theatre in the entire cunt
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>>85488874
Just like Nolan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AlDqFgQnqQ
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>"we need to make the boat lighter"

jeezus

also blatant pro-refugee propaganda
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>>85481308
>this film was too sentimental and didn't have enough blood or jetplanes
>women reeeeee
can you read, fella
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>I urge every youngster to go out and watch Dunkirk
Does Nigel have good taste?
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I'm full 14/88....is this a movie I should watch or is it full of propaganda?
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>>85493823
>a british nationalist recommending a movie about a british defeat

i don't get it

it's a good movie though
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>>85490054
check this guy out
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>>85493871
Watch it, almost zero propaganda.
Full white male brit cast except for the two negros in the french troops that are shown for literally two seconds, but atleast they are historically accurate true black african colonised negros, not some mixed brown pretty boys.

You don’t see a single german up closs throughout the film, the "nazis" are never even mentioned and there is no usual "le evil crazy screaming" nazi general.
It's told completely from the perspective of the brits on that beach and nothing else, the only bashing is shitting on Churchill and their own airforce.
Also it's the best cinema experience of the decade.
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you can almost see it from here
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>>85493907
You americans can get pride only from your "victories", how shallow. Also covering up all your defeats is pathetic.
Dunkirk is everything about the british spirit, Churchill famously said they will save only about 30 000 soldiers max, but through the help of the civilians they managed to save more than 300 000 soldiers.
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>>85494104
Great thanks I will watch it then !
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>>85494212
>the guy who walks into the water and starts trying to swim his way across
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>>85494557
Why didn't they anyway? Tons of people swam across the English channel, right? Isn't it even a marathon or something?
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>>85479566
>resistance b4 they even armistice
kys
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>>85490620
Stüka
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>all these Americans butthurt that France didn't get a mention in the film about Dunkirk
>99% of Hollywood WW2 films are exclusively about how America singlehandedly saved the day

Really gets the noggin joggin
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>>85491400
Common complaint from normies whos favourite flicks include Briggete Jones Diary, Love Actually and Eat, Pray, Love
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>>85492429
A great video
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>>85494667
Swimming in open ocean is hard enough for people who've trained for it-- its not uncommon for people to fail their first few attempts. A bunch of half-starved farmboys trying to make it in late May, when the water's still near freezing, are going to have a much worse time.
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>The British Navy only had 3 Destroyers and they all got blown up in the evacuation of Dunkirk
>The RAF only had 2 Spitfires and lost both of them in the evacuation of Dunkirk

whoah, the History book wizards were right and Churchill was making a massive understatement when he called Dunkirk a huge military failure
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>>85485401
What the fuck is this dumb bitch talking about. Ofcourse when soldiers have their backs up against the wall, just waiting to be picked off from the sky or assualted from the land, ofcourse their going to go into survival mode.

Compares Dunkirk to the Thin Red Line. Get da fuck atta here
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>>85494667
Yes, trained remarkable prepared people swam under perfect conditions and gear across the channel, not barely 18 underfed hungry physically and emotionally drained soldiers while being bombed and torpedoed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc4wBfh3lwk
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>>85490385
He was too low to parachute out and I assume needed to make sure his aircraft was destroyed.
>>85490487
Really, their resentment was a misunderstanding. The RAF was further inland fighting the Germans to stop them from reaching Dunkirk, the planes that attacked the beach were the planes able to break through the RAF.
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>>85494667
Dunkirk isn't actually at the narrowest part.
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Well TV, im glad to see most of you liked the movie.
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>>85495159
Dumb old cuck
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>>85480079
>Posting a Guardian article

m8
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>>85494845
But France was mentioned multiple times and there's a French character.
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>>85495703
Tell that to the Clapistanis whinging about the lack of French people
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>>85495736
That based froggo literally spends the entire film just saving multiple brits from drowning only to get drowned himself while saving the same brits who wanted to kill him a minute ago.
He's the representation of all the french people giving their lives defending that line so the brits could escape safely to their home.
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>>85495736
I haven't seen any. Just fags like you who haven't actually seen the movie.
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>>85495855
I agree REEEEEEE
My point was simply about all the complaints being retarded, especially coming from Americans who will only watch WW2 films where America unironically singlehandedly wins the day
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>>85495901
>>85479566
>>85481056

I came into the thread, read these messages and posted, get the fuck out of here you cunt
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>>85495446
Dude. Not cool.
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>>85479445
It was really good but no. Not at all. People won't be talking about it in years to come apart from when talking about Nolans filmography.
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>>85495309
Who wants to live in a place called Gravelines...
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>>85495446
I tolerate a lot of shit but you are a fucking scumbag... even by 4chan standards.
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>>85494229

There are a load of Vietnam movies tbf.
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>>85496059
People said the same thing about Interstellar and here we are 3 years after it's release still with basically daily Interstellar threads.
And Dunkirk was even actually good
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>>85482080
>Honestly just watch an Oats Studio short
opinion discarded
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>>85489573
>Interstellar that high

Kill yourself my man.
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So why is 70mm impressive?
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>>85480659
Your undeveloped teenage "brain" is showing.
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>>85496238
70mm IMAX is huge. Really really huge.
Not only do you get a higher resolution picture, you actually see more of the frame (full IMAX format) which get's cut in all of the other cinemas because of the horizontal frame size. This only works if the film is filmed on actual IMAX cameras, like Dunkirk is.
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>>85496238
It's about equivalent to 8K digital resolution
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>>85481468
Good point. Nolan is dogmatically opposed to CGI to the point of failing to convey what a massive situation Dunkirk was.

At no point in the flick did it feel like there were remotly close to 20K, let alone 300K soldiers, or any sort of serious/high-volume air operations.

And that shot of the civilian boats approaching the shore at Dunkirk was laughable--there were about 12 boats it seemed, maybe fewer. I'm sure that represents the true effort that civilians put forth.

It's really an immense error to fail to convey the scale of this event. A large number of men and planes could've actually given the film the dramatic weight that Nolan's contrived subplots, circular editing, and boring music failed to give it.
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>>85496510
In fairness I highly doubt all of the civilian boats arrived simultaneously
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>>85496510
Those were literally boats from the actual event in 1940 though, many crewed by the descendants of the men who actually did it. You don't get that with other filmmakers.
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>no characters or plot
>no suspense
>>watched it in 70mm IMAX, visuals are overrated
4/10 movie, only cucks and women would disagree with this
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>>85496627
>no characters or plot
Disregarding whether Dunkirk was good or bad, you're a fucking pleb.
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Reminder that the woman on the boat at the end passionately waving to Kenneth Branagh at Dunkirk, letting him know that she came “Out from Dartmouth” was actually Kim Hartman, the girl who played Helga in Allo Allo.

Pretty cool Nolan, pretty cool.
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>>85496510
More CGI is always worse. That's why ROTK is not as good as FOTR.
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>>85496627
Are your favourite war films Pearl Harbor and Team America
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>>85496815
t. somebody who thinks that CGI doesn't just means Transformers hitting each other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pocfRVAH9yU
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>>85496510
I thought the movie was great, but I agree with this wholeheartedly. Atonement did it better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QijbOCvunfU
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>>85496627
pleb filter catches another one
kek
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>>85496815
>>85496870
I really butchered that sentence but Ive had some drink so apologies
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>>85496870
t. somebody who thinks a video is substitution for an argument
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>>85496932
>>85496935
>>85496935
I'm also drink so I really thing too
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>>85496935
>see video evidence of how CGI can be used properly to enhance scale and immersion

REEE IT'S A VIDEO THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT REEEE


fucking neck yourself
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>>85496852
Team America is a much more honest, genuine film than Nolan could dream of.
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It was a great film and well executed.

But not better than Hacksaw Ridge
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>>85497066
>spouting the dishonest film making meme
I love how that one pasta inspired hundreds of plebs on /tv/ to parrot the phrase while lacking even a modicum of cinematic literacy. If you can actually justify why you think Dunkirk is disingenuous or dishonest, I'm all ears.
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>>85497142
>The first half is a fucking Hallmark movie
>Vince Vaughn attempting his very best do be R. Lee Ermy and doing a fucking terrible, laughable job of it
>Evil dead levels of funny gore and men running around with torsos

anon Hacksaw was terrible for the first half and enjoyable in the second becuase it plays like a black comedy
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>>85489573
>Memento last
b8
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>>85497066
What's not honest about Dunkirk? What's not genuine about Dunkirk?
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>>85496815
>More CGI is always worse
Well, this dogma is why Dunkirk seems like a conflict that would fill out half a flank of some forgettable Civil War battle, rather than one involving 300K men.

I think giving the film proper scale is more important than religiously adhering to hatred for CGI.

There are other ways Nolan could've given the film proper scale, but his lack of imagination fucked him once again.

People are really forgetting just how important the scale of this event is---it literally MAKES the event--it gives it its importance. If it were about 12K men escaping a pocket via the Channel (which is exactly what it appears to be based on Nolan's take), it would be a blip in history.

It's similar to filming Heat with poor shootout choreography, cheap/fake sound effects, and sloppy editing---it would render the action sequences nearly weightless.
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>>85496510
true. it seemed like there were about 500-1,000 people on a small beach. as an ameribong i had no appreciation that it was anything more than a smaller evacuation.
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>>85497482
God you americans are so stupid could you not tell the immense scale of the evacuation in the fact that there 2 (TWO) spitfires in the entire affair?
My God that's fucking HELMS DEEP levels of scale.
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Typical Nolan film for me. Looks and sounds great, with interesting premise, but something is missing. I wouldn't call them soulless, but they are kinda meh.
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>>85496510
>>85497482
It was pretty fucking historically accurate, they weren't crammed like sardines on that beach.
Here's a good informative read http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/dunkirk/
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>>85481056
>German army stops and doesnt attack Dunkirk
""""""""defense"""""""""
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>>85496815
>More CGI is always worse.
t.never watched a Fincher movie
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>>85480237
>masterful visual experience.
literally all I want. going to the imax 70mm showing tomorrow in dallas. HYPE
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>>85497898
Fincher is a one of a kind OCD turboautist who previously worked as a visual effect renderer that now shoots approximately 40-50 takes of every scene just to get everything right knowing every stage of CGI rendering by heart. He's an extreme, not an average example.
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>>85479243
Watched it in 70mm IMAX.
Hell, what a movie, the technical part was astonishing, the movie itself is an experiment.
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>>85483997
What's above entry level ?

Seriously want to know
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I loved the ending shot with the spit on fire and the engine block is completely missing.
Didn't have enough time to put a breeze block in and paint it silver?
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>>85479243
The first 20 minutes or so were pretty great. Other than that, really mediocre. It felt like it was going in circles and there was no feeling of progression. Monotonous as fuck, bland. The sequence inside the small boat was pretty good, though.
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>>85495446
people like you are why 4chan is shit. sad thing is you know that too
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>>85481692
Well, the Dunkirk evacuation was successful so it means the French succeded at defending that
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>>85492259
Well, France was seen as the most powerful country of the world back then
Despite what current English-speaking world propaganda tries to make people believe by massively overrating Brits, France was Germany's main enemy in WW1, the strongest Entente nation
Given that, the Germans werent very confident about their invasion of France, and were very suprised by how successful it turned out to be
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>>85496059
>implying people won't talk solely about Dunkirk for its cinematography
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>>85480079
Loved this guys review. Fucking nailed it. Nolan is a hack and I'm disgusted that even after years of baneposting there are shitters on /TV/ who defend his dreadful films
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I'm really looking forward to getting a version of this with subtitles, I couldn't understand a fucking word anyone was saying. I think Nolan must have been taking the piss with putting Tom in another film wearing a mask that makes him hard to hear. So many scenes were unintelligible thanks to the fucking loud orchestral score and the thick brit accent. Nolan desperately needs to fire his sound designer.
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>>85480309
Nice pithy statement, my dude.
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>>85492186
You fucking retard.
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>>85500099
nice digits my guy
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>>85496053
>>85496155
>>85499440
The man is a blithering dementia riddled idiot. I'm sorry to say it.
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>>85497736
This
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>>85494667
Are you retarded
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Did that dude ever get to take a shit?
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>>85499146
It melted
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>>85494557
It was suicide senpai, he kept all his gear on except his gun and helmet. Dude gave up.

Fucking loved that scene and the reaction of the 3 on the beach.
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>>85500065
Lemme guess. You speak American, not English?
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>>85500392
Fuck off. I'm from the UK and even I had trouble understanding their stupid lumpenprole dialect
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>>85495446
stfu nigger
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they fucking muttered the whole goddamn movie. it sucked. I was so confused at one point in the film, I thought two different things were happening at different times, I got lost when the guys plugging the holes in the boat somehow got onto a battleship that sunk, and then the plane hit it and exploded, and then were able to get on the ship with peter and that civilian guy.

this movie sucked. This was the worst nolan film I have seen. Hands down.
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>>85500449
One of those fairies from Sussex
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>>85500591
normie filter catches another one
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>>85497736
BTFO
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>>85500591
You didn't notice that the events were all intersecting?
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>>85500615
Nah I'm from Glasgow, cunt
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Anyone else get pissed off at how the Brits had fancy little objects for every task?

>Aviators have designer watches
>Aviators have designer clipboards
>Aviators have designer chalk
>Soldiers have designer shovels
>Beach looks like vaporwave ruins
>Servers on the boat hand out perfect little jam on toasts out of perfect little silver trays
>British village looks like an italian renaissance painting, so colorful and perfect
>Civilian sailors having perfect yachts
>Old fuck at the end handing out beer to the soldiers in the train, just like in a commercial

You can tell Nolan's autismo was flaring up to the max for the entire film. It had no SOUL
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>the drowning noises
>the guy who's caught underneath the water with the fire above him
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>>85500982
>the screams of the guys getting crushed between the ship and pier
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>>85500982
>the guy who's caught underneath the water with the fire above him

I kinda went wtf on that one. Like the water was on fire above him but he still just pops up and burns himself to death when he goes up for air

Couldn't he just.... swim 10 feet in the opposite direction to avoid the fire then surface?

I mean he knew the fire was there as you could see he really didn't want to go up but he did it anyway and burned
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>>85500626
smug_pepe.tiff uploaded!
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>>85501142
I guess back in those days you got very little practice swimming and that sort of thing wouldn't have occurred to him.

Still a dumb scene though. Non contaminated water was like 10 feet away
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>>85501233
Yeah exactly, it was just a very strange scene. Just swim over a little bit and you'd be perfectly fine
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>>85500659
no i did notice, but time didnt feel linear.
It was daylight, and then nighttime. Im not sure if one of the pilots crash landed into the sea and they went back and did the events from the ground right up to that point, or if there was just an extra pilot.

It didnt help that half of what they said was gibberish.
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>>85479616

completely agree. no character development. great action sequence, but it has no emotional heft.
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>>85501476
>but it has no emotional heft

This picture is legit one of the most emotional scenes in the entire movie
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>>85501520
>in the entire movie
That's the problem. It's a contrived, forced scene and it's STILL the best you can offer.
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>>85501520
He stupidly burned his own plane down while getting himself captured for no reason when there's 400,000 people some 100 yards away. It wasn't emotional at all, it was fucking retarded
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>>85501252
It does seem obvious but people don't always think clearly when they're panicking in a life or death situation.
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>>85501520
you prove my point.

tell me one thing about that character other than he was a brave fighter pilot.
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>>85501571
>no reason
It's pretty standard protocol to destroy equipment if you wind up stranded in enemy territory.
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>>85479566
>>85479616
>>85479786
>>85480179
>>85501476
>>85496627

is dunkirk the greatest pleb filter of our time?
>>
>>85501476
>>85501571
>>85501605

>WAH I NEED TO KNOW THIS PERSON'S LIFE IN ORDER TO LIKE HIM. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CONNECT WITH HIM IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS FAMILY IS LIKE OR WHAT HIS PLANS FOR THE FUTURE ARE
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>>85496238
I saw it on 70mm IMAX, you can actually see grains of sand.
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>>85501684
>DOES HE HAVE A SWEETHEART BACK HOME?
>WHAT WAS HIS JOB?
>WHAT WAS his tax policy?
>>
>>85501605
What more do you need to know to relate to someone in that situation? Would a contrived love story help? Or should he have been bullshitting with his wingman while they were hunting German bombers?
>>
>>85501605
he was a big guy
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>>85501605
This may be a pleb opinion but I kinda think Nolan wants you to imagine the lives of these people yourself and I already made a fanfic for Tom Hardy in my head but I'll never complete it but still its kinda fun.
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>>85501763
i find it interesting how many people are defending the reliance on completely flat, wooden characters. since when did that become a hallmark of good filmmaking? i don't need a love story, i don't need an in-depth history, but i need something to show me this person is human. to have a main character of the film be a complete cardboard cutout of a soldier is bad storytelling.
>>
>>85501890
> but i need something to show me this person is human. to have a main character of the film be a complete cardboard cutout of a soldier is bad storytelling.

Why is it bad though? Because it doesn't conform to the "standard" practice of modern filmmaking? It's not good unless it sticks to a formula that all other films do, and the movie itself becomes a standard by-the-numbers war film?
>>
>>85501658
It would need good composition and cinematography, and not mediocre crap from a hack autist. Zimmer and the sound crew are the only praiseworthy aspects of this film.
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>>85501605
getting caught was part of his plan
>>
There's a reason every dunkirk thread devolves into the same argument. At best you get comments like these >>85500982.
Good movie, not great. No artistic devices other than some very literal visual story telling. No substance or food for thought other than some very loose ideas just hinging on the well and unoriginal topic of 'war is hell', nothing new added to the discussion we haven't seen before basically. No subtext, no metaphors nothing to even reach to what artistic standards cinema has been built upon for the past century. People naturally need more to connect with. It will be pushed waaaay back into peoples minds and mostly forgotten in a year just like interstellar.
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>>85501520
was getting captured part of your plan
>>
>>85500214

How so? He's right on every count. we do stupid shit, when we can do much more. I hate faggots like you who never experienced war and talk a big game behind a computer.
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>>85501890
>i need something to show me this person is human
I thought that was conveyed perfectly through his actions. The calm way he handles his gas gauge being shot up or his sacrifice at the end when he turns back with no fuel left to take out the bomber.
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>>85502140
>pleb filter catches another one
>>
>>85502071
round characters have been the backbone of effective storytelling since time immemorial. it's not just some modern hollywood trope. human beings are not one-dimensional. characters that do not reflect the human condition of imperfection are not as compelling as characters that do. using round characters is not "formulaic." i would argue the opposite is true. it is infinitely easier to create tom hardy's character - "brave soldier" - than to create a human character. that is why so many shitty movies rely on wooden characters, because they are easy. i don't know if it was some misguided strategic choice on nolan's part to paint an emotionally sparse picture, but i think the film could have been so much more powerful if he had spent 10 percent more time developing his characters than chasing luftwaffe
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>>85502261
>Allow me to prove how patrician and intellectual you need to be to understand dunkirk
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>>85502252
>The calm way he handles his gas gauge being shot up or his sacrifice at the end when he turns back with no fuel left to take out the bomber.
Why does this show his humanity? How does no reaction to a danger show that he's aything but a soulless soldier? There's no dilemma in deciding to turn back because there's nothing waiting for him at home. All he exists as is a fighter pilot. Of course he's going to keep flying and fighting; just what a drone would do.
>>
SHOULD I go see this with my mom. I like nolan films and hans zimmer, she's kinda interested but I hear it's a slow film, so I'm not sure I'd like it. Does it have powerful moments?
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>>85502337
>Of course he's going to keep flying and fighting; just what a drone would do.
People who care about the lives of others are just drones? He allowed himself to run out of fuel because he wanted to shoot down the german plane and save lives of the men on the shore. He could have turned around when he was low on fuel, but he decided not to.
>>
>that shot from the beach as the silent Spitfire passes over
Hnnnnnngggggg
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>>85502753
That shot was absolute pure K I N O

>General guy looking up from the beach
>Spitfire just gliding by, propeller not moving at all
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>>85502337
>no reaction to a danger
He does react, though. He reacts calmly and intelligently. Competency is a human characteristic.
>All he exists as is a fighter pilot.
>a drone
I dunno dude I don't consider someone selflessly sacrificing themselves so others may live the act of a drone.
>>
>>85500065
>>85500392
>>85500449
I'll admit, at times I also had trouble understanding what people had said. But it was only the small comments inbetween long periods of silence that were drowned out by waves or wind.
>>
>>85502736
>He could have turned around when he was low on fuel, but he decided not to.
What reason would he have to turn around? He has no life other than flying that plane.
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>>85502906
>what reason would he have to turn around?

To fucking live?

Going back he knew he was on a suicide run since he now has no fuel left. Him turning around is him sacrificing himself to save the people on the ships
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>>85501571
He landed way further away then a hundred yards my friend, way further.
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>>85502974
Nah man. The will to live isn't an almost universal human trait. I need to have it explicitly conveyed to me. Maybe a little flashback of him with his sweetheart having a picnic.
>>
>heading towards the beach
>"this isn't going to be Funkirk lads...
What the fuck is Nolan's problem?
>>
>>85503394
You stole this from the George thread. Give it back
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>>85503564
>"The boy done kirked his head..."

Jesus fucking christ, Nolan
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>>85503564
that was me
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>>85501301
So what youre saying is that you lack the intellect to follow a couple of basic concurrent plot lines
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>>85501571
He glided for a few miles. The young guys that stowed away in the dutch ship were close enough for the germans to be firing at them and Bane flew several miles further in that direction
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>>85501476
Stick to super hero origin stories normie
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>>85501890
Stick to Rom Coms you autismo
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