Really makes you think

>>85441844
I've never understood this post. It implies Spielberg was saying World War 2 wasn't completely black and white but every other German soldier in the film is portrayed as being pure evil. This one thing is the only time he put some nuance in the film and 99% of the audience didn't even notice it.

The Americans sure do a lot of POW-executing in this film.

>>85441844
>236x203
another high quality thread from a phone poster. bravo!

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>>85442019
Really makes you think

So? They're still the enemy and deserves to die.

It's like that movie where Jodie Foster is raped on a pinball table and one of the rapists was pretty much peer pressured into doing the raping even though he really didn't want to but he still went to jail.

>>85441844

>Czechs had been forced to fight for Germany

The truth is, in every European country many people sympathized with the Nazis' cause. Poland helped killing the Jews, France made the way free for the German army because the officers preferred fascist over communists, Netherland handed over almost all their Jews, the SS was full of muslims members etc

>>85442110
Yeah, this. We shouldn't have stopped at two atomic bombs because those nasty fucking cockroaches were still the enemy. Should've bombed that slopezone island into a fucking crater.

>>85442015
They did a lot of it IRL. And turned a blind eye when the Soviets did it.

>>85441844
I don't get it, is it because actors characters are playing someone else? Sorry, bad English

What's with all those SPR threads recently? The movie is 19 years old and it's like it was a new movie just getting a yifi release

>>85441922
>every other German soldier in the film is portrayed as being pure evil.

I don't see how, except for steamboat willie coming back to shoot at them (and you could argue he didn't have a choice)

The SS who stab Mellish could have killed Upham but he doesn't

>>85441922
>but every other German soldier in the film is portrayed as being pure evil.
I bet you think the guy who kills Mellish was Steamboat Willie

>>85442175
It's never too late to do the right thing.

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>>85442142
>the SS was full of muslims members etc
really jangled my boggles

>>85442237
To be fair half of all Soviet POW's "mysteriously" died in German captivity.

>>85442384
Not OP but how is this /pol/ you fucking retard.

>>85442337

he changed his mind pretty quick when he saw how retarado it made the japanese in battle

>>85442384
Why the fuck would you even reply to a shitposter? You are the real retard here

>>85442337
LITERALLY only one Division out of 38 you faggot, and it was used exclusively against partisans in the Balkans

>>85442538
Ops, meant to >>85442439

>>85442576
>i- it doesn't count

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>>85442576
really toggled my dongle

>>85442576
Yeah, all those foreign SS division were used mostly on the eastern front. Some foreigners were enlisted in the wehrmacht and luftwaffe but mostly in supporting duties like cooking or carrying supplies

>>85442576
Is defending nazism and hitler the ultimate cuck?

>>85442142
>poland helped killing the jews
american education

>>85442142
>France made the way free for the German army because the officers preferred fascist over communists
That's not true at all.

>>85442600
It does count but it's very far removed from "the SS was full of muslims members"

>>85442600
>>85442631
>1 Division of 13,000 muslims and 1 division that was one-third muslim vs 36 divisions that over the course of the war had over 900,000 christians serve in their ranks.

Hmmmm....go back to your dominatrix Pamela geller

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>>85442703
Piotr pls

>>85442693
Most of the "foreign" SS Divisions were just German Christians living in Eastern Europe (Volks-deutche). It was less than a third that were from other ethnic groups, mostly Dutch, Scandinavian and Belgian/Flemish. Very few were actually Slavic

>>85442263
Teens that are just now getting interested in ww2 because of Dunkirk

>>85442337
wtf I hate Hitler now

>>85442775
>Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."
hmmm seriously tingled my bungle

>>85442697
What he said was factually incorrect. 1 Division out of 38 is hardly "full of muslims"....on the other hand there were over 5 million muslims in the Red Army

>>85442142
Tell that to the people who lived in Lidice.

>>85442337
Well he isn't exactly wrong, Islam is cancerous but at least they have conviction.

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>>85442337
The SS was full of Ukranians, Cossacks, Uzbeks, French, and others as well. Fuck, in grade school they teach you the Axis was only Germany, Japan, and Italy when in reality it was Germany, Japan, Italy, Croatia, Slovakia, Romania, Hungary, Estonia, India, etc. WW2 revisionism is rampant.

>>85442888
Top cuck
Clear tha sand from your mouth and stop sucking muslin cock

>>85442946
>pure Aryan Nazis required the assistance of non-whites
this definitely dangled my dingus

>>85442836
>that pic

Lol

>>85442990
I don't get what you're saying.

>>85442703
>implying poland wasn't the reason for WWII

GLEIWITZ, NEVER FORGET

>>85442946
Bullshit.

You're talking about local Waffen SS conscripts. That's not even remotely the same thing as being an actual SS member.

>>85442946
It's more about shame than revisionism. In French school there's 2 lines about the defeat in 1940, several chapters about the resistance, a few lines about the people who were forced to work in German factories and farms, some talk about domestic collaborators, but not a word about the thousands who volunteered to go fight on the Eastern front and later formed a French Waffen SS unit.

>>85442990
>''''''aryan''''''

>>85442990
well they were pretty much fighting the entire world under international jewry, kind of stands to reason they'd need all the help they could get, even then it wasn't much all told

still almost won

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poland? more like pooland

hehehe

>>85443012
>non-Aryans are inferior!
>except for the Japs, Indians, Arabs and Slavs who want to suck our cocks!
truly jungled my jimmies

>>85443058
>almost

lmoa

>>85442975
I hate muslims you cuck. What your doing is cowardly, you are just setting up straw men and attacking it.

>>85442142
>Poland helped killing the Jews,

No we didn't, cmon mate

>>85443075
>poland
>land of the po

what did they mean by this

>>85441844
Really makes ants think.

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>>85443058
>almost

>>85441844
over 1 million slavs fought for Germany voluntarily as the POA
Russian Liberation Front

These czechs would have volunteered to fight for Germany, Czechs did a tremendous amount of manufacturing for Germany during WW2

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>>85443058
>almost
Just like Hillary almost won

>>85443116
>literally cannot stop thinking about muslims and muslim cock
really makes you think

>>85443147
You are completely full of shit.

>>85443075
>pooland
>works as plumbers
Really unclogged my shitpipes

>>85443148
she came second place, she won silver

It makes me sad that so many white men died and the fucking jews weren't even fully eradicated

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>>85443198
Meanwhile Hitler got lead

>>85442142
>Poland helped killing the Jews
I've just left /int/ to have some fresh air and I see this.

>it's a "germans are evil" Spielberg film
Indiana Jones, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List, etc

>>85443278
Go on. Name 5 non evil Germans. I'll wait.

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>>85443225
10/10

>>85443225
this might be the most clever joke on this board right now

>>85442990

Nazis traveled to Tibet, because they thought the Tibetans were the original Aryans.

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>>85443041
>conscrpits

You really think post-Holodomor that the 40,000 Ukrainians weren't volunteers? Or after the Cossack massacres the Cossack legion was forced? Or after the brutal British raj the Azad Hind were simply joining because of Nazi threats?

Get fucked.

>>85443349
WE WUZ LAMAS UND SCHEISSE

>>85443278
>destroy europe
>not evil
rofl

>>85443329
Jackie Chan

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>It's a >>>/pol/ thread

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>>85443148
Funny you should mention that kike puppet

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/03/hillary_clinton_s_aipac_speech_was_a_symphony_of_craven_delusional_pandering.html

Hitler
Was
Right

Keep fighting those trillion dollar wars for Jewish interests America!

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>>85443329
this guy is one

>>85443147
>over 1 million

1 millions? Proof?

>>85443278
4 movies out of 30 and you named them all

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>>85443147
Sure, sure, my dear naziboo. Here, have a pic of dead inbred German piece of shit who got what he deserved by those slavs who 'voluntarily' fought for your little failed system.

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>>85442990
>Non-aryans are inferior
>Pls, help us Japan, pls declare war on Soviets
>Y-y-you bombed US of A, let me declare war on them. Pls pls declare war on the soviets

Wow, I'm so glad Japan cucked Hitler this hard during 41-45

>>85443183
Projection.

I prefer think about white-American vagina

>>85443460
State of it

>>85442946
Its usually force drafting after establishing a military presence. Germans did a lot of thing by the book. To the point of offering jobs and enough pay to feed your family if you worked with them, which usually lead to being declared a collaborator by those who would rather starve than accept anything from them.

Many countries before the Nazis did exactly the same thing to expand and establish a presence in other territories and persue their political goals.

>>85443329
Shindler List

>>85443364
Fucking redneck.

You think Himmler would let an Ukrainian into the SS? t

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>>85443058
>still almost won

>>85443467
Real pic?

>>85443041
SS were volunteers... those units made of POWs joining the german because it was still better than starving in a camp weren't SS

>>85443147
>>85443186
He isn't. Truth is that Russians surrendered to Germans en mase in first days of war because they wanted to be saved from communists. In 1941 everyone remembered what was done to us during 20s-30s. But Germans turned out to be absolute non-human trash so Russians had no choice than to kill them but not Stalin's orcs.

This >>85443364 is absolutely legit.

>>85443483
>american
>white
lmfao

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>>85443058
>almost
IT WAS HIS TURN

>>85443516
>talks as if he is a learned intellectual on WW2 history
>calls me a redneck because I claim Ukrainians fought in the SS
>is unaware of the Galizien division (14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS)

No mate, the Soviets conscripted. The German just had to offer arms and uniforms. No one wanted more Soviet brutality. The great irony is everything is perceived backwards.

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>>85443454
>Funny you should mention that kike puppet

>>85443700
Not going to deny it, if anything it proves how much they are in control.

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>>85442356
Population control

Where have the country flags gone?

>>85443781
>ever going to /pol/
91 IQ brainlet detected

>>85442703
>>85443119
>>85443268
Why do Poles with their fantasy country get so triggered over proven and accepted history?

Stop LARPing and give back clay.

>>85443842
I have came from /pol/ but got bored of it. They are too leftist(and usa oriented) for my taste

>>85442356

Same happened to a lot German POW's, for example only about 10% Germans that surrendered at Stalingrad survived the war. Most of them were wounded and malnourished to start with. Same applies as many Soviet POW's Germans took at opening months of Barbarossa.

>>85443848

It is pretty hard to accept that most Poles didn't give a single fuck about nazis killing jews and quite a lot Poles collaborated with Nazis.

>>85443147
>voluntarily

Only romanians did because they're retards and also because they hated the sowjets. At least they got made honorary aryans for it

>>85443848
you mean that some Poles helped Germans kill more Poles?
Yes, let's talk about this 0.0001% of peoples and ignore rest.
Traitors was in all countries. Oh and theres was no such a thing like Jews in Poland.

>>85442703
>>85443119
>>85443268
If the german killed the 6 million jews then why are 80% of the concentrationcamps in poland? You did it and no you blame the german

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>>85444143
>implying the didn't have multiple Nationalist parties before Hitler even came to power.

>>85442576
There were plenty of North Africans who volunteered

>>85444270
We wuz übermensch and shit

>>85444171
>implying Poles have the brain cells to put into place an efficient machinery for genocide

>>85443964
>same happened to a lot German POWs
Not really. Germans starved to death or murdered at least 3 million Soviet POWs. Even the Soviets were better for German POWs.

>>85442728
It partly is though l'ami. Pétain never shied away from admitting he'd surrendered the country so he could LARP as a fascist leader under the kind eye of Hitler, and a lot of military officer from upper-class families were "eh" about fighting Germany since they were scared it would only be to play into Stalin's game of western nations butchering each other.

For example, Weygand was clear nazi sympathizer, but he still defend France pretty well so he's not the best example for it.

>>85443848
I'm not Polish.

>>85444171
>why are 80% of the concentrationcamps in poland
Because Jews were allowed to live only in the westmost and southernmost parts of the Russian Empire. It was convenient to keem them where they were.

>>85443054
>but not a word about the thousands who volunteered to go fight on the Eastern front and later formed a French Waffen SS unit.
Because it has litterally no impact on what we're taught? The defeat, the resistance internally and abroad, and the collaborators are what shaped French politics till 1962, but it wasn't at all influenced by those wannabe Nazis. The Dicision Charlemagne all got butchered in Berlin, so it's not even like French had the embarrassment of having had an SS division since they'd all died anyways.

>>85444370

Overall death rate for German POW's in Soviet captivity is around 35%. In some cases like with Stalingrad death rate is around 90%.

Death rate for Soviet POW's in German captivity is around 50% depending on sources. Overall survival rate for former Soviet POW's is slightly lower due to fact that majority of released POW's got sent to Gulag for treason.

>>85444725
>due to fact that majority of released POW's got sent to Gulag for treason
kek wtf I love russians now

>>85441844
I am german and I can confirm they speak german and just beg for their lives.

>>85444807
Wrong. They said please flood europe with million blacks and muslimes

>>85441844
Dress like nazis, get what was coming.

>>85444725
Majority of them died in German captivity, though. Many German POWs were released after the war.

>>85444661
Forced labor also had no impact whatsoever, yet it's taught, along with the legend of the "malgré nous". It's not about the impact, it's about accuracy. And not all of the members of the Charlemagne division died. Some were captured or sent back home wounded well before the end of the war. And a few also survived the fall of Berlin.

>>85445071
There is no time to teach you about everything in high school.

>>85445192
That's a very lame cop out and you know it. The real reason is a mix of shame and pride, with a drop of political correctness.

>>85445071
>Forced labor also had no impact whatsoever,
To validate why the Resistance was as much something that had stemmed from patriotism, but also selfiness (that of the youngsters who'd fled into the Maquis to be spared the STO).

>along with the legend of the "malgré nous".
I'm betting Alsatians campaigned for it to be included in the program, and I mean that one does concern what would've been 50,000 to 100,000 men, which encompasses a lot more than the deeds of the 1,000 LARPers.

Also, the ones that survived Charlemagne promptly got minutiously slaughtered by the French government when the indochina war was wrapping up so they wouldn't have to be pardoned.

>>85445691
At the of the day it's still a very major oversight.
>the ones that survived Charlemagne promptly got minutiously slaughtered by the French government when the indochina war was wrapping up
Several of them died of old age in the 90s, some even wrote books about their experiences during the war.

>>85445919
>At the of the day it's still a very major oversight.
Are you French though? I mean, you could've inquired about it, and I'm certain any decent history teacher would've known about them and would've be happy to ramble for a good, from 1 to 50 minutes, about it.

They probably just don't bring it up since it would bore the students, and the French government and ~l'éducation nationale~probably doesn't care for the chilluns knowing French had some retards that betrayed the country.

It's the same with how we're taught about Stalingrad, but never Moscow, Kursk, Bagration, battle of the atlantic, etc... in that much depth.

>>85442337
> Hitler is a weeaboo

Figures.

>>85444171
Because Hitler didn't want that shit in his front yard. He knew the Final Solution wouldn't fly with the general public so he put them in backwater towns outside of Germany. He used Polish labor to build the physical structures but that's the extent of their involvement.

>>85446117
I am. The problem is that you get the very short version fairly early on, so when you get to high school your brain is already full of "muh resistance good, collaborators bad" and you don't even imagine that thousands could have joined the Waffen SS voluntarily, let alone ask about it. As for "betraying the country", the political situation back then wasn't so clear cut, if the Germans had won all the French people who crossed to Britain to continue fighting would have been the "traitors". I think it's still a pretty important thing to know in any case, and it's better to teach it in school than to let young people find out about it on their own and develop sympathy for this "hidden history". Shit I bet a lot of high school history teachers don't even know about it themselves.

/pol/ thread on /tv/ with 125 replies
what the fuck are the mods doing? we should spam with porn till they come back

>>85446588
>Shit I bet a lot of high school history teachers don't even know about it themselves.
Would really be tied to how involved with his craft your teacher was, so all in all, where you'd lived as a child and where it was a ZEP or a bourgeois little neighborhood.
>his teacher wasn't a Normalien-graduate who'd had his thesis about France in WWII be published and be awarded with many prizes

>>85446867
It's not just the involvement, but also what their favorite subject is. If I had no particular interest in WWII I probably still wouldn't know that there was an entire division of French SS soldiers.
The only "not-from-the-book" knowledge our history teacher shared about WW2 was that German companies like BASF made money producing Zyklon B, and he was legit upset about it.

>>85442946
Most of them were recruited when germans were losing badly and were in dire need of manpower.
Vast majority of SS were germans.

>>85442237
The problem isn't showing americans killing POW. The problem is that Spielberg's movie makes it totally acceptable. Spielberg is a piece of shit Hollywood propaganda agent. He was never like George Lucas who always despised Hollywood scum. he wanted to make movies with heroes that have high moral standards, not heroes that are cynical murderers.