What is he working on?

An anime film that will BTFO moeshit once and for all.

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>>85424911
god I hope so

>>85424889
something that won't be finished before he dies

Probably not Gedo Senki 2.

how many fucking times has this hack said he's retired?

how many more times is he going to make the same coming of age story with the same 5 archetypal characters?

>>85424911
Only thing he should be working on

>>85424889
Based

>>85424889
Is he literally /ourguy/?

>>85425001
Hope so

It'll just be another samey film.

I love a lot of his work but it's always the same fucking thing.

The best two Ghibli films made aren't even his, they were written by Isao Takahata (Only Yesterday and The Tale of the Princess Kaguya)

>>85425042
T-T

I liked Tales from Earthsea despite it not being really faithful to the source.

>>85424889

This is at least the third time he's come out of retirement.

>>85427527
the guy can't just stay idle, wife probably too old to fuck, can't do jav now like that dude cuz he is too famous. honestly he probably gonna work til the day he die

>>85424889
Bloodborne 2

I thought Wind Rises was supposed to be the end. Is Hayao starting to act a little jewish?

>>85425060
stop trying to be such an edgy contrarian. I know you do this to try to sound smart, but in reality, you just sound like someone who knows literally nothing about writing and story telling.

>>85424889
isnt this the guy who said animu is a mistake

>>85424889
I hope he's working out all that salt from Your Name.

>>85428907
Do you have any idea how many times he's retired? Princess Mononoke was supposed to be it, FFS. Then, the one after that, and so on.

I watched 2 or 3 of his anime movies. Nothing was special except for the art style. One dimensional characters

>>85429086
He's even more pissed at cgi and freakish cg AI shit.

>>85429148
Oh wow. I didn't know that. well, he should feel free to come back whenever then. please. Anything else out of the studio is mediocre at best.

>>85429164
In a filmed discussion between Akira Kurosawa and Miyazaki, Kurosawa said that he cried while watching Kiki's Delivery Service, and he loved Totoro.

I'll take Akira Kurosawa's assessment over yours.

>>85424948
wtf I love greys now

this is a joke, do not come for me

Is he going to save anime?
will it be a 70s/80s mecha that destroys all the naval gazing high school girls moe shit?

It's gonna be a pro-nationalist film about a disgusting NEET gamer transforming himself into the ubermencshiro samurai and fighting for his country against pig like humans.

Whatever it is it will be pretty good, He hasn't ever made a dud

>>85429309
If there's one genre Miyazaki would deem even more pathetic, worthless escapist fantasy than moeshit, it would most likely be mecha.

I hope he will disavow anime for good

>>85429213
and yet he's making boro the caterpillar completely CGI
I just hope it looks better than the CGI tv series they tried, 12 fps is acceptable for "traditional" but CGI has to be 24 and consistent

>>85429448
So you think his next movie is gonna be clay motion or live action or something?

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>>85429355
Piloted mecha can be a bit retarded, but I could easily imagine a squad of these guys laying waste to an evil group of otaku clutching hug pillows along with doe-eyed moe girls being lit up.

>>85429512
Pretty much all of Miyazaki's female main characters are doe eyed moe girls though.

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Hopefully a WW2 film about the Liberation of Singapore to BTFO Nolan

>>85429482
He's bipolar about these things - tasteful low key cgi, like the pioneering 3d mapping of backgrounds drawings for Mononoke and digital ink and paint is cool. Weird, uncanny shit, however triggers the fuck out of his luddite sensibilities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfxlgHBaxEU

>>85429512
Also, what you want would be the exact same type of sad wish-fulfillment story without any purpose and moral backbone that Miyazaki resents so much. Just for a different audience, the self-hating neckbeard who feels superior over one other type of neckbeard.

>>85429485
no just to make a televised statement saying he is sorry to have created such filth which has brought dishonor upon his country and himself. Then he commits seppuku in an effort to redeem himself, anime is officially banned worldwide and all is well in the world

>>85429355
70s/80s anime was the golden age
not this diseased degenerate shit we see now

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0zU5Sgb68A

There's been a trailer out for the new project for quite some time, you drooling troglodytes.

>>85429702
That's Yonebayashi and Ponoc not ghibli (although many ghibli animators made it)
it also released a few weeks ago in japan at least.

>>85429579
You would love what Leiji Matsumoto did with his Cockpit OVA trilogy. Axis soldiers are the good guys just fighting to survive and die with honor. Certain parts will trigger the fuck out of certain Burgers, and interesting alternate history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wsIG7DHPeI

>>85429665
It won't make your life any better anon. Also, why would Miyazaki do that when you just heard he is currently working on a new (anime) movie?

>>85429792
because I don't want to believe it, the man has done enough damage as it is

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>>85429598
Based.

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>>85429665
>>85429858

>>85429965
fuck that, he's too high on his own supply

uppity cunt should go die quietly somewhere and take his pretensions with him

>>85430061
>we want to create a machine that draws like humans do

Nah he's right, what they're doing is an insult to animation as an art form.

>>85430135
Machine learning could figure out this shit too, as it has done with the game of go and Watson winning Jeopardy. Along with transhumanism, that stuff poses a real threat to everything from jobs like those animators to organic life itself in the endgame.

Folks like Ray Kurzweil are the stuff of Miyazaki's nightmares. Leiji Matsumoto was pretty freaked out about "machine men" back in the 70s if you watch Galaxy Express 999, too.

>>85430135
nah, he isn't, and while that logic is heavily flawed, he would be a biased party from the start being involved in the industry, he immediately sees this sort of thing as a threat, there's no way he wouldn't have looked beyond the inherent potential that exists there for his own reflection, and that's touching lightly without mentioning the creators obviously had no intention of "insulting" anything in their pursuit, let alone one of their fellow countrymen and great animators

imagine how far behind we'd be where we currently are if humanity at large held this sort of attitude toward progression in general, nevermind anime, can you fathom? it's like i said before, he can't see the forest for the trees because he's purposely blocking the view with his own, well-earned but mistaken beliefs of grandeur; they will continue to work and he'll pass, having made little to no impact on their progress beyond possibly reinforcing whatever ideals they had to start with, and when they've reached some pinnacle of success, he'll be remembered as the grouchy old director who wanted to block their path because muh fee fees

>>85424911
Based

>>85427010
>it's always the same fucking thing.
literally the only thing they have in common is that the protagonist is a young female. They may also share some common thematic, but Disney has milked love and princesses for half a century and no one complains

>>85429267
You need some anal probing.
aay lmao

>>85427527
He's just like Terry Funk

>>85429267
if i cant make you like voila
i'll make you love voila
make you make love to voila

Anime to end all anime

a new recipe

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>>85430013

Anime biopic of Mishima by Miyazaki when?

>>85424889
>Leave anime to me

spirited away sequel with older chihiro

>>85424889
probably some anti trump shit

>>85429258
>I copy my opinions from an overrated Reddit tier zipperhead director

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Boku no Pico 4. He will create a shota masterpiece.

>>85432746
>overrated Reddit tier zipperhead director
Holy christ I hope you die.

>>85432767
>draw girls
>add dick

An anime to surspass moe shit

>>85431319
I didn't know Lupin the third was a little girl, makes all the creeping he does ok now.

>>85424889
Nice I was just looking up Ghibli to see if they were working on something new the other day.

Reminder that When Marnie Was There is best Ghibli film because that hack Miyazaki didn't work on it.

He is out of retirement because of the clusterfuck his son did with the Ghibli trademark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IuQs_Fl-dE

>>85433202
Of all Ghibli movies not directed by him you had to chose the shittiest.

Something shit. The only good film to come out of that brain is Spirited Away.

>>85424889
A film about how Imperial Japan dindu nuffin wrong.

>>85427010
>Only Yesterday
fucking patrician

>>85429164

He makes movies for children and yes, Its mostly about the art.

>>85429223
You are a fucking moron, he wasn't even the best director.

>>85429577
No they aren't, none of them are.

>>85432546
and Beat Takeshi playing the role of the dude who chops Mishima's head off after another twink tried

>>85424889
his magnum opus hopefully, something that will BTFO princess mononoke/spirited away/my neighbour totoro out of the water

>>85424911
>>85429309
>>85429355
>>85429512
>>85432860
The only reason people aren't trashing his movies as moeshit is because he's Big Man Miyazaki and certified mainstream friendly, and because his movies predate K-On. Not because there's any substantial difference between his movies and many late night anime.

>>85433305
Ghibli's leadership made the call, not Goro. And apparently it was reviewed well.

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>>85424889
Isnt it that caterpillar movie?

>>85425060
People like Miyazaki don't ever retire, even if they mean it at the time when they say they're out.
His brain was probably still ticking over about new ideas every day.

>>85429342
Ponyo's narrative was trying my patience by the end. Beautiful film though.

>>85427010
>Only Yesterday
Boring plotless garbage. Would be the worst Ghibli theatrical release if it wasn't for My Neighbors the Yamadas.

>The Tale of the Princess Kaguya
Actually good.

>>85437249
>muh plot

>>85437297
If there's no plot then there's no reason to even have a movie. By artfag logic, the best movie ever made is visiting the Grand Canyon in real life.

>>85437369
This is a completely braindead way of evaluating movies or any other fiction. It seems to have recently gained a lot of currency, probably because of all the >muh plot shows popular in the US now.

>>85437467
>muh visuals
Nature BTFOs all your "muh visuals" movies. Plot is the most important thing in fiction, and anybody who claims otherwise is simply trying to look sophisticated by pretending to like boring movies.

>>85424889
a final solution to the weebs

>>85437543
It's not just visuals, it's also characters, themes and atmosphere. Nature is not the same thing as filmmaking.

Anyone who elevates plot to this level of importance is a dullard who should stick to American TV dramas.

Ghibli has been dead to me for a long time

>>85436605
>Not because there's any substantial difference between his movies and many late night anime.

I hope your voicebox gets destroyed by a gorilla dick.

>>85437713
The truth hurts, huh?

>>85437643
>characters, themes and atmosphere
But artfag movies fail at all these too.

I watched Wings of Desire once. It has the worst romance of any movie. It's not even slightly believable, so it fails at "characters". The "theme" is basically "live fast, die young" (sacrifice your immortality for some pussy), which isn't deep or interesting. And "atmosphere" doesn't even have a clear definition; it's what you appeal to when you've lost the argument.

>>85437884
I'm not talking about just artfag movies, and arguing that some movie had bad characters and themes doesn't do anything to disprove what I just said. And it can't be disproven anyway, so you may as well not bother trying.

>And "atmosphere" doesn't even have a clear definition; it's what you appeal to when you've lost the argument.
I didn't lost anything because it's not possible for me to lose this argument, and atmosphere is a thing that exists.

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>>85429355
He's best friends with hidekai anno though

>>85437986
This annoys me to no end.

NGE was a heap of trash. Literally only that trailer with all the mechs was decent to watch. The whole thing itself was a piece of shit. Yet it is touted as some sort of anime masterpiece.

>>85438044
It must be fun to denounce everything as a piece of shit when it's even one nanometer short of perfection.

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>>85438044
Care to explain why you hated it?

>>85438090
>>85438097
If this thread is here when I come back from work I will explain.

>>85437986
He did Secret of Blue Water right? Seemed like a Ghibli film done by a pedophile.

Probably another kino, this man is a fucking legend and never fails

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>>85424889
anime was a mistake

>>85424889
He's such a shit human being

>>85438556
What did he mean by this?

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>>85438608
Watch a documentary on him. The guy is a bitter asshole and full of hubris

hopefully its about some otaku neet who gets a real job and learns the value of the real world

>>85429577
When people talk of moe they mean this cutezified little school girl making a piece sign while posing.
Young girls alone aren't moe in todays context

> "Anime appeals to the modern male who is apathetic to a meaningful existence. His only concern is his own shallow dreams and aspirations. He shuns the world because it isnt as real as his fantasies. The world has expectations and you must work to earn what you keep. Anime has an unlimited harem which satisfies his every need and desire. This is the means by which a man increasingly adores himself and creates a prison in his mind. The saddest thing is that he is not happy with his own company and must constantly pursue and hoard his obsession so that his vain desires will be fulfilled. A sad existence only made more pathetic as time marches on." - Hayao Miyazaki

What did he mean by this?

>>85424911
>Ghibli film without moeshit

>>85438896
If an anime has female characters in it, someone will call it it moeshit. Doesn't matter what it's about or what the characters are like. At the same time moeshit is treated as something very clearly defined that everyone understands the precise meaning of.

If Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbor Totoro, Nausicaa and Whisper of the Heart didn't exist already and came out as a late night anime, they would be moeshit. People would shit on them like they were public toilets.

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>>85424889
I wish I was so creative that every time I tried to stop creating, my brain would overflow with new ideas not matter how hard I tried to make it stop, and talented enough to realize those ideas.

>>85424889
something that's not an insult to life itself

>>85438910
/a/ btfo

>>85429213
>cg AI shit.
Wat

>>85430524
>he immediately sees this sort of thing as a threat
Hes gonna die any time soon gtfo

>>85424889
>>85424911
He wants to defeat Your Name but its impossible

>>85427010
The Wind Rises was completely different

>>85424889
Evangelion 4.0

>>85439623
Spirited Away is #1 in Japan, Your Name is #4. And then there's every other movie he's made.

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>>85424889
>implying he doesnt make moe shit

>>85437986
>>85438044
I imagine their friendship dates back to Anno's animation work on Nausicaa, as NGE is definitely not Miyazaki's cup of tea.

>>85439506
Didn't you read the thread? Everyone knows about this incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfxlgHBaxEU [Embed]

>>85424911
He can't be allowed to fail. Weebs must be destroyed once and for all.

>>85441655
You obviously don't know what moe is

>>85443866
Weebs have been gone for many years and never had anything to do with moe. Miyazaki also has no power to affect moe in any way, and some of his own characters have been popular with otaku.

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>>85427010
>Only Yesterday
>watchable
Did you just look up the "least enjoyable Ghibli movies" and pick the top one?

>>85441655
By definition, moe refers to properties that specifically target hug-pillow tier otaku fetishes with vapid characters with traits calculated to push their buttons.

Simply "cute" characters are not moe, even if moe otaku appropriate them as such. For example, innumerable shojo cartoons for little girls like 1970s "Candy Candy" on down are not fucking moe regardless of what they appear like.

>>85443983
pussy libshit about how great everyone is and everything is happy land and no ugly girls just cute shit


this nigger needs to bring back bad ass 80`/90`s anime

>>85444087
Moe is a feeling you have towards a character, it's not a character type, trait, property, fetish or style, or something that can only exist in certain shows. It's not something that exists objectively. It's dependent on the observer.

lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfxlgHBaxEU

>>85428954
very insightful critique of my criticisms. This man, with few exceptions, can only make coming of age stories with one dimensional characters and you know it.

lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMQVYdfqKUU

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>>85444339

holy fuck literally every line and all those awkward moments and pauses are fucking gold.


this is literally the c.i.a/bane scene of documentaries or whatever this is from.

jesus fuck.


>mfw

>>85424889
Good god, why won't he fucking die already
nigger does more against progress than anyone in the industry

>>85444339
god what a fucking old fogie faggot. He's had animations in his own films of people struggling, missling limbs, hurting etc, but when someone shows it too him in a dynamics procedural way he can't comprehend, he starts ranting about his friend with diabilities and how humans are finished. These are the type of old faggots that limit progress.

>>85444652
>progress
What is progress though? His studio is nearly the last high frame count theatrical 2D shop on Earth, and the only thing that keeps it going is the Miyazaki name brand (witness his son's flop, and other non Miyazaki Ghibli performance). That's worth something, just to keep the animators employed if nothing else.

>>85445119
you have to realize that at a certain point in ones career, especially when you're this huge, you do fucking nothing except say "that looks good" or "rework that" and the 300 people under you do all of the work.

>>85445190
Perhaps, but that name brand is what gets the record box office takes in Japan and Ghibli has utterly failed to groom a successor so they will die with him. Ghibli have been close to calling it quits in recent years.

>>85424889
>Anime was a mistake
But god damn do I need money

>>85445119
I don't know why people are still so angry about Earthsea. Poppy Hill is a good movie and Ronja by most accounts is good too. And he has no prior relevant experience.

>>85445190
Miyazaki is a control freak who's always been balls deep in his productions. The only reason he would delegate more work now is because he's old.

Live action film directors are normally deeply involved in their work even if they're really famous, it's no different for anime directors.

>>85445428
One of his movies would have set him up for life, this is about something else. He probably needs shit to do, and would keel over otherwise, what with all the chain smoking.

Mamoru Oshii once compared Ghibli to the Kremlin, and he probably feels the need to remain party boss of his workers paradise.

>>85425060
It's because of Shinkai. Miyazaki gets extremely butthurt every time he[Shinkai] releases a film, and feels the need to make another "Miyazaki" film to assert his ideology regarding anime is most superior.

>>85445897
Your Name is Shinkai's first hit. Mamoru Hosoda has previously been more successful than him.

I don't know where this idea comes from that there's some epic rivalry between the two.

>>85445698
Oshii on Miyazaki:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030214195016/http://www.nausicaa.net:80/miyazaki/interviews/oshii_on_mt.html

Oshii's take on Miyazaki and Ghibli is quite relevant today.

please don't be the caterpillar shit.

>>85444557
Funny old man I like him.

>>85424889


hopefully its ponyo 2

everything else is shit. i never liked memezaki

>>85430135
>>85430061
>>85430524
>Misunderstanding what he said
They showed him a "creepy" monster that was basically a person with a disability. He found that insulting, as well as everything around it. Wow.

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>>85449919


it was a a.i controlling a 3d model walking with its head, chill the fuck out libshit, it wasnt a attack on the disabled. fucking pussy just like that old jap fuck in the video. cry moar faggot.

>>85424911
Please God, let it be true.
Destroy the moeshit cancer that has plagued anime for so long.

>>85430524
Procedural generation is lazy. Walmart scooters for fat fucks isn't progress.

>>85429598
I think I see what Miyazaki's saying here. A machine can make something "creepy" in that it moves in a wrong or strange way, but he's not interested in that because plenty of non-malevolent entities in real life, such as his disabled friend, move in strange ways. If a machine's trying to create something creepy, can it generate the erosion of the human soul? Can it generate the source of evil in all of us?

>>85444236
shut the fuck up

>>85451534
No you

to kill "moe" you just have to accept that fat, ugly, loud, and obnoxious girls are pretty and the pinnacle of femininity

>>85424889
Do the Japanese not have a pension system? Why does he keep working?

Seriously how can he make a better exit than The Wind Rises?

What the fuck I literally thought he was dead. I remember like 10 years ago they showed all of his movies on tv several times for a weekend, I thought it was in honor of his passing away. I mean I'm glad I'm wrong, though.

>>85429267
It's okay. We don't do that anymore now that you guys have internet.

>>85425042
You know his son directed that right? And during the process, Hayao gave him nothing but shit for it. Told him he wasn't ready to be a director, his drawings are not good enough, the story is too weak etc. He told him he wasn't naturally talented enough and still required many years of experience to develop the skill. And then after it bombed he stuck his son in the Ghibli Museum and made him manage that full time.

Okay maybe he was right about all of that but damn, that your son man. Goro eventually got to direct again but this time Hayao wrote the script. Goro has often said he never wanted to do the same things his father did. I wonder why.

>>85452097
Japan is a nation whose bourgeois revolution was impossed from the USA. After their cuckment post-ww2, they changed daimayos and emperors for Kaichos and CEOs. They'll die standing on their jobs, not on the battlefield.

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>>85424911
Anime was moe since day one. You are delusional or a summerfag who tries to fit in.

>>85427929
funny goy

>>85424911
>911
Gosh, that reminds me of that horrible tragedy

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>>85438656
at least he's a bitter asshole with talent and a set of concrete moral standards. you're just a bitter asshole

>>85454887
>horrible

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The biggest joke here is that Miyazaki has been imposing his waifu in different iterations throughout the years. He is a self hating moefag.

>“I first fell in love with animation when I saw Hakujaden [The Tale of the White Serpent], the animated feature produced by Toei Animation in 1958. I can still remember the pangs of emotion I felt at the sight of the incredibly beautiful young, female character, Bai-Niang, and how I went to see the film over and over as a result. It was like being in love, and Bai-Niang became a surrogate girlfriend for me at a time when I had none.”

>>85454887
Which one?

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>>85424889
You really wanna know? Alright, have a few clues.
Protag is a little girl.
Planes and the joy of flying.
Dream-like illogical fairytale fantasy setting.
Anti-war sentiment.
Something majestic but inhuman dies in the climax and everyone is sad until the final couple minutes when they cheer up for the mandatory feel-good ending.

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>>85433202

It wasn't the best but it's definitely underrated. The average anime viewer just doens't have the patience for a slow-paced movie that about something other than magic and aliens.

The best Ghibli movie hands down is Only Yesterday.

>>85456786

>Protag is a little girl.
>Planes and the joy of flying.
>Dream-like illogical fairytale fantasy setting.
I am ok with all of those.

>>85433202
Fucking love this movie. Always have a good cry while watching it.

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I haven't enjoyed a single one of his films. Maybe because I'm not a weeb and I hate coming of age stories but honestly I don't see what other people see in his stuff.

Only animated stuff I like out of Japan is Berserk/Ghost in the Shell

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>>85424889
"I will not stand weebs,
Throw otaku off high roofs,
Let them die slowly"
-Hideo "Gas the weebs until they cannot breathe" Miyazaki

>>85457414
>Liking Ghost but not Patlabor
Get this hothead outta here!

>>85441655
>>85444087

Moe is basically taking a fully grown woman body and slapping a 12y/o face on it, or taking a 12y/o and sexualizing the absolute shit out of her.

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>>85424911
Is Moe shit really what's ruining the genre? For me it seems like the massive appeal to autism with the tropes.

Got sick and binge watched netflix, ended up watching Hunter x Hunter. First two seasons are alright, then right in the third season the entire thing goes full shonen. Introducing way too many fucking characters, introducing a "behind the scenes super power organization", power jumps like crazy, retconning the lore so power isn't based off of training or talent but instead just general willpower, and then the autisic bullshit like the Binkie vacuum and focusing on Kurapika who just completely embraced the "silent revenge protagonist"

I mean watch this fight from season 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrdbZT5luns

and then this fight in season 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHCYeIN_XgQ

It became so bad. I won't even get into the plot holes. So you'd imagine my surprised when I google the fan reactions and find out that anime fans consider the third bullshit seasons, right when it embraced shonen bullshit, to be when the series gets good!

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>>85438681
There already was an anime like that though.

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Was announced a while ago that he's working on a feature length version of Boro The Caterpillar. You can stop with your little girl and plane memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q3nAu7T9l0

It better be a good movie because his producer Suzuki is even getting sick of this retirement shit.
He didn't want to fund The Wind Rises but did so anyway as a retirement gift to Miyazaki for all the years they worked together.
The last I heard though, the movie idea he wanted to make was about a day in the life of a caterpillar.

>>85439108
Well for starters unlike most pedo loli moeshit, there is no sexualization of the girls and the situations they are in to appease pedos.
Literally the only good "more" series is Yotsuba and I actually hesitate to call it that that because lack of the former.

>>85445075
Well
1. In his stories the were supposed to be tragic, not be Scarry monsters that people are supposed to be afraid of.
2. If he views it like that, I can see how using something that mimics the movement of a disabled person as a monster in a horror story can seem offensive to him.

>>85456385
Except, his female characters are actually real people and not just sexy card board cutouts made to satisfy the fetishes of virgins who have actually never spoken to one.

>>85460607
Not just the females. Characters in general in the anime medium are just completely unrealistically weird

also anyone else really fucking hate the new recaptcha bullshit?

Tell me, /tv/, how kino are laser beams that
make shit explode after the hit?

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HE'S WORKING ON PORCO ROSSO II BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PATRICIANS TRULY LIKE FROM THIS DAMN HACK THAT HAS ONLY DONE A TRANSCENDENTAL MOVIE IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER YOU DAMN WEEBS RUIN EVERYTHING WITH YOUR SHITTY FANTASY AND FUCK ALL FOLKLORE SLIPPING GOD DAMNED FAIRIES AND SHIT INSIDE PURE UNADULTERED PEDESTRIAN REPELLANT KINO