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'Justice League' spending $25 million on reshoots

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http://variety.com/2017/film/news/justice-league-reshoots-1202502433/

I don't even have to say it.
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>>85398727
ALL TOGETHER
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>>85398727
Baykino when???
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Did they not learn??
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>>85398727
Mmm boys!!!
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>>85398727
*breaths in*
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>>85398827
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/baykino/
Who's this fucking chink spamming Baykino.
The Last Knight got anally devastated by DC's B-List Hero.
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>>85398727
>>85398822
>>85398827
>>85398858
>>85398894
>>85398918

>insiders

not THIS bullshit again?

Ray Fisher, an actual actor on the movie said himself:

During the Q&A session at the end of today’s Justice League panel in Hall H at San Diego Comic Con, Ray Fisher responded to a fan’s question about the reshoots the DC team-up flick had recently undergone.

“They’re brief if anything,” Fisher explained.

“Joss is a great guy and Zack picked a great guy to finish up for him,” said Fisher.
http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/07/22/justice-leagues-cyborg-praises-joss-whedon/


They keyword here is BRIEF
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>>85398822
CUM NOW
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>>85398727
I hope Whedon fucked it up so bad, that his retarded ass will be kicked out of industry for good.
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>>85398957
Yeah because someone with a vested interest surely wouldn't downplay the issue of reshoots at all.

fuck off.
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>>85398727
>spending
>despite reshoots already having happened
>believing this shit
>despite us KNOWING they didn't take as long as the article claims


AHAHAHAHAH you guys are fucking idiots.
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>Ezra Miller jumping between this and fantastic beasts, but it's OK since both are WB properties
>cavill's mustache will be removed in post for MI:6
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>>85398957
So it's bullshit again. Like when they got caught saying Affleck wanted out and he confirmed he was going to stay for as long as they allowed him to a few hours later
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>>85398727
Marvel is spending ONE BILLION in two movies
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>>85398858
>>85398918
>>85398957
>Warner Bros. and DC are spending big money to ensure that “Justice League” builds on the creative success of “Wonder Woman” instead of serving up a “Suicide Squad”-style disappointment.
They're trying to prevent it from being a SS 2.0. What's with the smear campaign
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>>85398727
>"source"
>after SDCC
Campea working overtime.
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>>85399015
>my 100% anonymous sources which were wrong about WW and Affleck wanting out are totally right guys!!!!!
>no way the actor is telling the truth!!!!
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>>85399039
No they arent, they didn't spend that much on reshoots, its a flat out lie.
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>Marvel does reshoots
Fuck off all movies do reshoots.

>DC does reshoots
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ITS OVER DC IS FINISHED
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But we know for a fact that the reshoots are already finished and Cyborg confirmed they were brief, what the fuck Disney?
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>>85398727
Gal!

GAL!

EY GAL LEMME SPIT IN O AZZHOL!!
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>>85399106
Baykino confirmed. Praise Michael Bay!
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>>85398727
I think you mean 25 BILLION
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>>85398727
Batman/Wonder Woman sex scene. You heard it here first.
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If only you were all this emotionally invested in finding jobs instead of superhero movies.

That way you wouldn't have to inevitably torrent this movie when it comes out.
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>>85399141
uber retarded
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>>85399003
It's already looking like a hot mess just from the trailers, which as should be obvious are meant to be made from the best-looking bits of the film they have finished or near-finished. For whatever fault you could find with Man of Steel or Batman Vs Superman, they certainly LOOKED great, like actual films as opposed to the bizarre almost TV-like look the Marvel movies have. The same can't be said for Justice League, which seems to be veering all over the place in its trailers from "decent" to "later-season episode of Smallville".

I have no doubt Joss will be the final nail in the coffin of this thing. He already jettisoned Junkie XL, who made several of the best blockbuster film scores in recent memory, for Danny Elfmeme. If his Twitter is anything to go by I'm sure he's going to have some kind of meltdown at some point over politics and try and insert that into the film, the guy really seems to be losing his mind lately. To say nothing of how at-odds his sensibilities are from Snyder's visually and tonally. Someone here on /tv/ predicted a 14% RT score for JL, and I'm inclined to agree.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ben-afflecks-batman-future-doubt-as-warner-bros-plots-franchise-future-1023296

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ben-affleck-denies-hes-exiting-as-batman-at-comic-con-1023603

Let's try again with these fake news, shall we marvelbros?
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>>85399147
Shadibay!
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>>85399239
Yeah, you were right about Wond- Oh right
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>>85399262
You think he'd say it outright in a room at sdcc? Fuck you.
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>>85399326
I never said anything bad about Wonder Woman. It looked cheap in the trailers, it looked cheap in the cinema, but for whatever reason it ended up being a crowd-pleaser. Not entirely surprising given it didn't get fucked around with as much as BvS, which was delayed for a full year so WB could insert Wonder Woman, more Justice League bullshit, Doomsday and the death of Superman.
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>>85398727

>half the trailer looks like scenes from a bad videogame
>half the lineup is woefully misscast
>director left half way through
>now reshoots

Not only is it going to get beat by the new avengers, its going to get beat just by the third Thor. Their premier flagship is going to get beat by a 2nd tier MCU property.
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>>85399411
>gets BTFO
>f-fuck you
kek
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>Wonder Woman outgross Iron Man, Spider-Man and Guardians
>WELL OUR INSIDER SOURCES SAY T-THIS IS A MESS PLEASE DON'T REMIND US THE OTHER TIMES WE GOT CAUGHT SPREADING FAKE NEWS
Purest coincidence, I'm sure
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>>85399492
>/tv/ literally thinks that Thor (THOR) is going to make billions
Alright.
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>>85399438
>I never said anything bad about Wonder Woman
Sure you didn't. Sure the rest of your post was as believable as this
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I just don't understand why people like comic book movies so much

The last one I saw was the first Guardians of the Galaxy, and before that, Hellboy...like a fucking decade prior.

I'm good for another decade.
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>>85399106
>literally changing directors in said reshoots
>we already know this is extensive
>pretending variety of all things is fake news
lol
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>>85399641
Thats amazing, snowflake. Please tell us how much you hate capeshit while in a capeshit thread with this original /tv/ mentality.
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>>85399586

Dude, GotG2 is at 860 million worldwide and still in theaters. If you don't think a Thor with incredible marketing and Hulk + Loki + Dr Strange is going to make insane money I don't know what to tell you.
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>>85399492
No way Thor 3 makes more. It would have to be guardians 1 good and jl bvs tier for that to happen
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>>85399677
You said the same about Hollywood Reporter and then this happened>>85399262
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>>85399721
>actually knows how to employ "snowflake"
I like this anon.
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>>85399677
Just like Wonder Woman, right?
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>>85399756
> It would have to be guardians 1 good and jl bvs tier for that to happen

The funny thing is, I actually think that's about how things will play out.
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A FUCKING MUSTACHE
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>>85399641
>I just don't understand why people like comic book movies so much
They're adult children
>"Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control."
- Simon Pegg
>"A sweet-faced boy of twelve told me proudly that he had seen Star Wars over a hundred times? I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities"
- Alec Guinness
>"I don't think they are making [comic book movies] an elevated art form, I think it's still just Batman running around in a stupid cape.. It's for kids, it's adolescent in its core. "
- David Cronenberg
>"I don't want to see or make films about super heroes that fly around in spandex and a cape solving the problems of the world. I think it's fine for children, children of all ages by the way, but it's not for me."
- William Friedkin
>“They have been poison, this cultural genocide, Because the audience is so overexposed to plot and explosions and shit that doesn’t mean nothing about the experience of being human.”
- Alejandro Iñárritu
>"Superman makes me vomit, Batman and all of that. That whole empire... this religion... It is so important that superheroes suffer... I don't give a damn, I shit on the United States."
- Alejandro Jodorowsky
>"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence"
- Alan Moore
>"The movies are for children but they don't want to admit that... There is a small group of fans that do not like comic sidekicks. They want the films to be tough like The Terminator, and they get very upset and opinionated about anything that has anything to do with being childlike."
- George Lucas
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>>85399677
>extensive

see
>>85398957
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>>85399106
>extensive reshoots with four months until release

No really, stop defending this.
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>>85399785
>an open letter from an anonymous person is the same thing as fucking variety
>pretending the third act wasn't a mess anyway
Snyderfags, not even once.
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>>85399866
>No Michael Bay
You will never feel the pure Baykino anon. No Bayhem for you.
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>wonder woman fake news get BTFO
>james wan leaving fake news get BTFO
>ben affleck leaving fake news get BTFO
>"this anonymous source have a lot to say about reshoots hehe"
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>>85398727
looks like they need the suicide squadron
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>>85399866
>>85399919
Is it true that Zack Snyder and Michael Bay are good friends?
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>>85399756

I didn't like Thor 1 and 2, I thought they were both bad.
Both trailers for Thor 3 have been so good I'm going to go see it in theaters, and I never see films in theaters anymore I pirate fucking everything.
So I can't tell you how well their marketing is working on the average person, but it sure as hell worked on me. I think Thor 3 is going to make stupid money.
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>>85399949
>the suicide squad extensive reshoots were true
>the creative shuffling over the DCEU rumors was true
>the flash director drop outs were true
>the affleck not directing rumors were true
>the reeves throwing out the current Batman script rumors were true
Yeah, this is totally fake news.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnREl3UKG0Y

Damn Wonder Woman really did put the fear in disney shills
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>>85399628
>>85399785
Wonder Woman was actually trash, though.
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>>85399888

Almost as bad as firing the directors a month before shooting wraps.
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>>85400052
They are though >>85400056
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>>85399912
>92% on Rotten Tomatoes
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>>85400102
Why would they ever publicly admit the issues we literally know about?

Are you retarded?
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>>85400058
Still better than GotG2 and Homeflopping
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>>85399912
>anonymous sources aren't anonymous when Variety uses them.

I had an industry insider tell me that your mom puts on one hell of a Tijuana donkey show, so does she?
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>>85400056
>joss is a good guy
>zack picked a good guy
>implying WB didn't force snyder out and bring joss in
>"clean up for us"
this thing is going to be a trainwreck, can't wait to see it
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>>85400144
>trust our insider sources that have been proven fake literally yesterday instead of the actual actors guise
Disney shills are really desperate these days, between Spider-Man "underperforming" and Han Solo about to crash and burn they really need the MCU to do well
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>>85400056
So it was fake news after all. Also didn't Doctor Strange had massive reshoots made by Dan Harmon instead of the director?
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>Marvel is spending, hear this, 500 million dollars

>on each movie
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>>85399729
>Hulk
Bombed
>Thor 1 and 2
Underperformed
I'm not going to get cocky though
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>>85400248
>Han Solo about to crash and burn
What the hell are you talking about?
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BRAVO JOSS
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>>85400162
It really wasn't
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>>85398727
But do they have enough pop songs? Only thing that matters really.
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>>85399866
Oh look anon watched the Moebius documentary or is copy pasta-ing someone who did
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H-HE WILL DO IT BATMAN IN 2020 I PROMISE GUYS HE IS F-F-FINE

>>85400305
>>85400301
>>85400056
>>85399106
>>85399036
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>>85400327
Han Solo prequel directed by Michael Bay
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>>85400301
> Also didn't Doctor Strange had massive reshoots made by Dan Harmon instead of the director?
Yes. Also Feige literally admitted they always do it, yet no one makes a peep about it.
>The term 'reshoot' used to be looked at with much derision by people outside the filmmaking community, but many now realize that it is actually a rather standard part of the process. Director Joss Whedon has recently announced that principal photography on Avengers: Age of Ultron has culminated, and now, producer Kevin Feige has suggests that the cast could end up reassembling for two weeks of reshoots, or additional photography, for the film.
>Feige also confirmed that it has become standard practice for Marvel Studios productions to schedule two weeks of reshoots so that there are no issues with scheduling. This practice helps make post-production more manageable in case of potential issues, and has been used to great effect in the studio's previous efforts.

And Ragnarok went under reshoots, too.
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/07/05/thor-ragnarok-reshoots-atlanta/
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>>85398727
This trash looks like TV budget shit.
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>>85398727
>mfw /tv/ has gone from ironically defending the DCEU to legitimately SEETHING about how much of an embarrassment it is
capeshit was a mistake, /film/ when
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>>85400593
Embarrassment?
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>>85399106
>marvel reshoots
a week maybe two

>DC reshoots
4 months and a brand new director

DC is fucking dead get over it
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>>85400358
Oh ok anon, sorry
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>>85400593
>/film/ when
Never
the /v/ drones that spam capeshit threads don't want it and they outnumber actual /tv/ posters
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>>85400678
They haven't been shooting for 4 consecutive months, are you retarded?
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>>85400691
YASS QUEEN SLAY
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>>85400678
Ray Fisher just confirmed that they were brief reshoots though
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>>85400301
Yup.

http://collider.com/doctor-strange-reshoots-dan-harmon/

>DC does it: DISASTER!
>Disney does it: meh, nbd.

Read that shit. The tone's completely different. These fuckers and their well-poisoning are transparent, emphasis on the "trans."
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Based Josh Sweden will save the DCEU

COME TOGETHER
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>>85399036
But they're making one billion each.
Last time i checked, 2 billion - 1 billion in cost = 1 billion in profit

>b-but theyre spending ONE TRILLION IN MARKETING AND COMMERCIALS

sure bud
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Are they reshooting to hide Al-flecki's tits?
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>JL trailer gets overwhelmingly positive reactions
>Wonder Woman outgrossed GotG2 in the US and like 10 MCU movies with higher budgets worldwide
>"Ben Affleck is leavin guise"
>"reshoots costing gorillions!"
>both already confirmed fake by the actors
Donald Trump of movies up to the CTR shills on 4chan
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>>85400767
>Usually, reshoots aren’t a signifier of trouble. Especially with major blockbusters, it’s common for studios to schedule additional shooting days beyond principal photography, and Marvel has made this standard practice for all of their films—Captain America: Civil War had reshoots, as did Guardians of the Galaxy. It’s interesting, though, that Marvel chose Harmon. Might he be lending some more comedic breath to the story of Stephen Strange?
But when a DCEU movie does it, it's the end.
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>>85399499
The only one btfo is you, DC shill.
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>It's the daily fake news thread

Mouse shills are getting desperate because even the normies are starting to see through the blatant bias in the media. Sad!
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>>85400953
Post more Aquabro to trigger these mousecucks
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Why do dc pajeets and numales get so upset so quickly?

Is it because most of them are nonwhites and raised by single mothers?
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>>85400948
>>both already confirmed fake by the actors
Remember when one of those actors said they were going to direct the Batman film?
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>>85401096
They came from /pol/
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>>85401096
>>85401102
>Usually, reshoots aren’t a signifier of trouble. Especially with major blockbusters, it’s common for studios to schedule additional shooting days beyond principal photography, and Marvel has made this standard practice for all of their films—Captain America: Civil War had reshoots, as did Guardians of the Galaxy. It’s interesting, though, that Marvel chose Harmon. Might he be lending some more comedic breath to the story of Stephen Strange?
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>>85399262
That's like believing in CNN after they said the Election can't be hacked.
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>>85400953
There's a difference between reshoots and "extensive" reshoots.

BATMAN V SUPERMAN and WONDER WOMAN had regular lreshoots and nobody said anything. SUICIDE SQUAD had extensive reshoots and look how that turned out.

I'd say it's undeniable that whatever overhaul JUSTICE LEAGUE is going through is outside of normality.
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>>85401152
/pol/ /pol/ or neo/pol/ (aka /v/)?
Because their style of posting is essentially the latter. You would see the same type of babby tier posting back when everyone here was calling gotg reddit when it came out
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>>85400767
>>85400953
There's a huge difference between two months of reshoots and a week or so of pick ups, but okay.

I'm sure you're getting some kino.
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>>85400903
Just like Spider-Flop: The Pandering, right?
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Finally the shills are back! Good, I made this just for (you)

Gather round, kids, for I'm going to show you the deepest ends of the BTFO side of the tracks

Now where does it all begin? The origin of this BTFO that is going to echo in the walls of eternity can be found in 2012, way before the DCEU was even a thing

Now what happened in 2012? Well, in october, the biggest entertainment conglomerate in the world, Disney Entertainment, bought Lucasfilm Limited
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>>85401289
>two months of reshoots
They didn't shoot for two consecutive months, it's literally impossible. Momoa was on another location filming Aquaman, Gal wasn't even in the US, Ben wasn't working, Henry is busy with MI6.
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>>85399411
Yeah. Most people don't care if a movie was putting in More shit.
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>>85401303
>What does that have to do with /tv/ being obliterated to end of their rope, to the point of becoming the laughingstock of all 4chan, a website with boards dedicated to My Little Pony?

Well well, good question. Disney made a massive investment in that studio, which by that time was little more than a bunch of rights for old franchises and a merchandising money ATM. Those franchises were mainly Indiana Jones and especially Star Wars.

When Disney bought Lucasfilm, they intended to make Star Wars a MASSIVE cashcow and for that to happen, they needed SW to be in the center of the industry entertainment

Disney learnt their lesson with Marvel. Obviously MCU movies are successful but even successful movies aren't that profitable. To this day they haven't made the 4 billions they paid for Marvel back, and nothing they have produced has flopped. The thing is Marvel does just ok merchandising wise, the videogames sell like shit and /tv/ licensing, besides some Netflix deals, is dead in the water.
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>>85401096
See >>85401292, fuckstick.

There's your paneer audience.
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>>85401292
I did say that it reminded me of Indian imagery. I wasn't the only one, apparently.
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>>85399912
What the fuck. That shit looks b grade hilarious.
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>>85399729
People liked GotG1
And the sequel underperformed . It was suppose to make a billion not 860 milliom
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>>85401354
They couldn't make the same mistake with Star Wars because the source material is not as extense and rich, and people were going to get tired of it if they started shitting out 3 movies a year, just like they do with Marvel.

>why are you talking about Star Wars when it's the MCUcks the ones who made an absolute ass of themselves?

Getting there, getting there. With Star Wars they couldn't take any risk. There is no such thing as a Doctor Strange in the Star Wars franchise, every movie needed to be a massive tentpole making over a billion and the Star Wars name needed to be nothing less than cultural leviathan. They needed to sell not only the movies but the theme parks, the toys, the t-shirts and all that garbage and not only old stuff but new one too. They needed Rey to be a brand on itself, a brand worth a billion at least.

And for that to happen, they needed a STRONG CONTROL of the narratives formed in the internet. They casted a nigger to appease the SJWs, a gurl to appease the feminists, they bought all the reviews they needed to buy and, here is where the fun begins, they hired viral marketers or shills
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>>85401196
Based! Keep posting Aquabro! The numales are trembling from chadkino.
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>dcpajeet having another hindu autist attack
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>>85401393
As we all know now, Force Awakens was a nonsensical piece of shit ridden with nostalgia pandering, uninteresting characters, absolute inconsistency with the OT, bad action, bad visuals, forced emotional and qt d'awww shit, womyn pandering and abhorrent plot. They made their 2 billions* but every new IP they shoved there sells like shit and the next Star Wars movie, with similar budget, promotion and release date, made almost HALF of the TFA's gross.

But the shills were hired. Disney had a huge network of viral marketers pushing positive "user reviews", generating positive buzz in comment sections of all kinds of clickbait websites AND shilling Disney products on public forums all over the world wide web

*They made those billions with abusive practices like coercing the distributors and shit like that
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/02/26/quentin-tarantino-vows-to-never-work-with-disney-again-after-star-wars-hateful-eight-theater-dispute
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>>85401441
>hindu
>DC
Anon, I... >>85401292
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>>85401035
Game journalists are not the only ones who collude to promote or bomb a movie based on their social agendas.

Movie critics have been doing it for a whole hell of a lot longer, and don't even hide it.
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>>85401354
> To this day they haven't made the 4 billions they paid for Marvel back
both avenger movies made a billion, gotg made 700 million

you companywar faggots are the worst

> The thing is Marvel does just ok merchandising wise, the videogames sell like shit and /tv/ licensing, besides some Netflix deals, is dead in the water.
> "just ok"
they just renewed the netflix deal a year or so ago

you're a shill. there are dc shills, and marvel shills, you're acting like a bunch of 10 year olds rooting for coke or pepsi
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>>85401458
Now Warner Bros, a much smaller studio with a looong tradition of both prestige, oscar winning movies and relatively successful franchises (nothing in the ballpark of Disney except maybe LotR) saw money in that cinematic universe shit, and decided to try their luck with their own IPs. It wasn't easy though. DC has two kinds of characters, the A-listers and the Omega-listers, nothing in between. The A-listers were a well's run dry situation because they all had ultra iconic, genre, even era defining movies before and rebooting them would be extremely tricky, because the comparisons would be inevitable. The omega listers had no market value, as we all learnt with that Green Lantern movie. They still tried and then Man of Steel came out

Now I said before that Disney hasn't recouped the MCU investment yet. Even extremely successful movies make about $300M in net profit. They paid 4 billions, and some of the biggest merch hitters weren't even in the pack, like Spidey and the X-Men. The superhero fatigue coming in today would mean a NET LOSS for Disney even after making 10 billions in the box office

A saturated market means trouble for Disney, already floundering in their massive Star Wars investment and scared for the MCU one too. The DCEU needed to GO, but how to do that? MoS was divisive but commercially successful, had a bit of a cult status and sold blurays and merchandising like crazy. What to do? They couldn't fuck with Fox or Sony because they want all those properties back someday, but they needed the DCEU to go away
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>>85399912
Holy shit, this is awful.
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>>85401493
>mobile hindu who has confirmed hes anti-trump, anti-/pol/ and anti-old/tv/
>not a hindu like most of the DC fanbase on /tv/
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>>85401518
Man of Steel made less money than Thor 2.

Let that sink in for a moment.
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Outta my way marvlel fucking shits
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>>85401332
Exactly. Basically, the article's misrepresenting its own source, regardless of their veracity. There's a world of difference between reshoots taking two months to accomplish and shooting for two consecutive months. These people have scheduling conflicts, prior commitments and such to work out. Baisically it's shoddy reporting if not outright intentionally misleading.
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>>85401516
*Marvel just got the Spider-Man licensing rights back, before that they didn't get shit from that

Anyway:
>>85401518
Well, they already had all those viral marketers. Just like they can promote a piece of shit like Homecoming, they can smear the competition right? And this is how the biggest smear campaign and commercial cold war between studios in recent times began and Batman v Superman was the Cuban Missile Crisis

Not only MoS and BvS but all Snyder movies dropped a couple of points in all public audience scores since this shit began. Some guy found twitter bots smearing BvS even months after it was out of theaters and, of course, public boards like /tv/ or IMDb suddenly got infested with a lot of people who HATED BvS and MoS so much they couldn't stop talking about it.

Dozens if not hundreds of anti DC threads for months on end. Dozens of articles talking about the usual preproduction drama involving the search for talent in Hollywood, nothing as concerning as what they were going through with Star Wars as we are all aware now. Reviews calling BvS a fascist movie. Anonymous, unsourced letters of imaginary WB ex-employees saying that the movies were messes, even before all the post-production, that is before anyone could even know how much of a mess the movie is.
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>>85401618
Shit I forgot the MCUck pic, sorry lads. I know you hold us DChads to a high standard. But moving on

But BvS didn't flop and even the objectively bad Suicide Squad was one of the biggest hits of 2016. Alas for our dear Mouse, the MCU and the DCEU made the same combined domestic gross in 2016. Absolute home video sales and merchandising hits, videogames and tv shows doing better than ever and even in comics they find themselves on top. What did the shills have left? Well they had to create the narrative of NOBODY liking the DCEU and the objective success gained so far being a) not impressive and b) consequence of weird coincidences and situations outside the DCEU itself. Like making $900M with a 27% RT score is actually bad, a sign of no one liking the movie, even if it would be the fifth top grossing movie in the MCU, only behind Iron Man 3 and the 3 Avengers flicks. Like any other movie would have succeeded if it was released when Suicide Squad was, for some reason. But the next one wasn't going to have that luck, oh no. The next one, oh boy, that one was going to outright BOMB
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>>85401604
JOE SWEDEN EVERYBODY
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>>85401565
Deflect more, faggot. You're the one watching glorified Bollywood now.
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>>85401693
The next one was Wonder Woman of course. An easy prey. The director was relatively unknown, although anyone knowing a little about movies could have told them that Monster is a very competently made movie to say the least and the pilot of The Killing is kino. Gal Gadot is a starlet with a floundering career, some questionable acting in the past and some really bad movies under her belt, nevermind the fact that she was widely considered the best part of BvS even by people who didn't like the movie because, remember the narrative, no one liked anything about BvS. Shit is shit is shit. Snyder had his hands all over the movie, from visuals, story and probably script to directly producing it with his wife. Now this part has changed though, now it's clear that Snyder had nothing to do with the movie. Weird. But the worst of it all, the release date was suicidal! It had to compete with Pirates of the Caribbean, The Mummy, Captain Underpants lol, Transformers, Cars, Despicable Me and finally Spider-Man, and none of those movies came from a franchise as reviled by the audiences, although flopless, reviled by the critics, although oscar winning, hated by everyone as the DCEU! All those movies were going to crush WW to a pulp and the DCEU would be over by the end of the summer.

Wonder Woman was going to bomb for all these reason anyone with a minimal knowledge of movies could see right through, but sadly, it didn't. Now all those movies have underperformed or flopped, yes, even Spider-Man, under the severe, falsely warm, semitic eyes of Gal Gadot, just like all those Palestinians inhaling the white phosphorus on fire a few years back.

And this, my friends, is the story of the BTFO of the ages. How it came to be, from that day in 2012 when George Lucas sold his soul to this sunny, hot day of summer in which a lot of Indian shills see their jobs on the line. Hope you enjoyed it! Thanks for reading /tv/, always a pleasure!
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Anybody who doubts shills and zombie profiles really needs to look for the Full Measure segment about it.

you know what I will:
http://fullmeasure.news/news/cover-story/sum-of-all-knowledge-part-1

it's not some myth. the shit happens very regularly. about 3 minutes in, 3:20 latest it really touches on it.
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>>85401332
>literally everyone has to be there at the same time to do reshoots
>standins for CGI doesn't exist
>filming the same scene via greenscreen and composites haven't been a staple of blockbusters for decades now
Is this a serious post?
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>>85401618
> *Marvel just got the Spider-Man licensing rights back, before that they didn't get shit from that
that's a fucking lie, they've had merch rights to spidey since 2009. that's insane profits every year since 2009, just off fucking merch

you're a pseudo-pretender who thinks he knows what he's talking about and would fail a business class

disney buying marvel isn't just about budget vs box office. it's about total assets

disney's stock since buying marvel has gone up roughly 400% since it bought marvel. it doubled before it bought lucasfilm.

that is insane growth.

if you are building a portfolio, disney is one of the safest stocks to buy because of how well they are run, marvel studios is profitable, no matter what your shitty head canon thinks, they've already made the 4 billion back
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WB co-credited whedon and snyder before the internet noticed, and they took it down

whedon has been working on the film since MARCH.

director's guild might step in depending what the final cut will be. it'll most likely be snyder's film, but it'll be obvious as fuck what parts of the film are whedon's since they're styles are so different. it'll be like tarantino's part in sin city, it'll stick out that much
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>>85399912
Tell me its some pre-production leak please.
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>>85401968
>providing proof of a shill diverting the point so he can nitpick a piece without any proof of his own

I mean, make it a bit harder to spot you. anon was right on much of everything he said. The best was around april last year when people attempted to call DC fans crazy for the "conspiracies" before realizing it would take a 3rd of their ad budget to make a dent online. They spend more than political campaigns. Which absolutely employ shills and bots.
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Now insider sources know how much reshoots cost too!! That's a good one too, goes on to prove how much disney shills know a lot about movie making. Not just that Cavill is shooting a Mission Impossible movie and Momoa was shooting Aquaman already so it's impossible for it to be more than a few weeks. Literally only the producers and the director know how much is spent in each scene.
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>>85402085
Nope. This is what the majority of /tv/ wastes time defending.
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>>85399912
That wasn't real right...please tell me that's not an actual scene in this critically acclaimed worldwide box office hit movie..
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>>85401968
I just checked, it was in 2011

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/02/02/sony-admits-selling-spider-man-merchandising-rights-were-short-s/

But that's worse because Disney bought those rights, so that's more investment to recoup. We don't have the actual number but I wouldn't be surprised if the Mouse dumped another 4 billions into MCU
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>>85399912
*inhales*

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
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>>85402207
It's real but don't worry, the movie costed 40% less than this piece of shit and looked much better
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>>85402090
all companies shill, i never said they don't

but "rooting" for a side on here is the cancer killing this board. the snyderfags are mostly contrarians. he's made 2 bad DC films. SS was an abortion, and WW was a nice surprise, it is def the film that saved the DCEU for now

JL looks like a retread, but maybe he did learn his lesson after BvS or maybe WB got it right by bringing in Whedon, we'll see in november

either way, this idea that disney hasn't turned a profit on the marvel purchase is stupid. they spent less than 6% of their worth on marvel in 2009, and now they are worth 150 billion, they absolutely are turning profits, it's ludicrous to think otherwise. DC made money of BvS too despite it under-performing, but company war faggtory is awful
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>>85402355
>the snyderfags are mostly contrarians
>providing more proof

I mean just the very fact that you think this proves you really are a shill, yourself, or you're so blinded you might as well be. How anyone can actually believe that is absurd.
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>>85401303
You are a god among men.
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>>85402262
source i saw said

> In 2009, Disney purchased Marvel and acquired the rights to Spider-Man; however, all previous movie related deals remained intact.
maybe the deal didn't kick in until 2011, either way, they made the money back, especially since sony is already regretting it, seeing how much they could've made

we don't know what the merch rights cost. it's not worse, because even if the growth is slow (which we know it isn't since it's 1B+ a year on revenue making toys and clothes in fucking china), they'll have that every year. the recoup is most likely done as it's been 6 years

the mouse doesn't need to "dump another 4 billion into the MCU" they own it outright and it's self-sustaining at this point, just like when they dumped 9 billion into pixar and 4 billion into lucasfilms

disney's biggest problem right now is ESPN which is bleeding subscribers, their movies are fine
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>>85402355
You shills are really new. This board was the most anti DC board in the whole internet. It was you shills spamming how good Avengers and Guardians of Reddit was and this board reacted just like /pol/ did with the CTR invasion. They memed Trump into the White House and we memed the DCEU into being one billion ahead of the MCU by the fourth movie and one oscar.

It's been said that /pol/ and /tv/ are sister boards, we shall use our meme powers wisely
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This is so embarrassing for them that I have to keep reminding myself it's actually real

How do you fuck up this bad?
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>>85402636
Don't worry lad, it's not >>85400056
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>actually giving a fuck about capeshit


MANCHILDREN LEAVE
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>>85402606
What year did you start posting on /tv/, /v/?
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>>85401580
it grossed more you fucking idiot, and made more profit than IM 1. Let that sink in for a moment.
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>>85402406
they are, it's just memeing. this board worships armond for god's sake

a month ago people were shilling for edgar fucking wright, the biggest meme director, simply because they wanted to anti-cape post. a year ago they were hating on wright for being a meme director

just because i'm arguing against that anon doesn't mean i'm a shill. i wish disney would take more fucking risks, but they won't. JJ ruined star wars, kathleen kennedy needs to step down, and iger needs to slap ike and intergrate the film/netflix marvel stuff more. but he never intervenes unless it threatens the bottom line

it works from a business standpoint but not from a creative

it's funny this company war faggotry is killing this board, like it's some yankees/red sox rivalry, when the players don't care about it either. it's all fan faggotry

both feige and geoff johns worked together as interns under richard donner and are great friends in real life

https://twitter.com/theacademy/status/888862538292539392
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>>85398727
>mfw reshoots are done by joss whedon
>mfw anti trump stuff thrown in
>mfw sad liberal sjw makes justice league le marvel
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>>85400121
>>85401374
>>85401525
>>85402207
>>85402267
Nice samefag again
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>>85402600
They bought MCU characters and the merch rights of Spider-Man in separate deals. The MCU costed 4 billions, I can't really imagine paying less for the merch rights. However you're right that this changes the revenue analysis, but there is a reason Disney don't buy more franchises. No one give these cashcows for a dollar less than what they're worth
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>>85401768
great posts anon
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>>85401303
Based goldmine poster. The revisionism here is astounding.
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>>85402606
> It's been said that /pol/ and /tv/ are sister boards, we shall use our meme powers wisely
this is some reverse false-flagging. nobody talks like that any more

this board was anti-DC not because they hated DC, but because WB kept making bad movies, WW saved it. i love DC comics, but their first 3 movies have been very poor, that is objective fact

it's great that WW was successful because it caused a schism between the DC shills who have now broken into 2 camps: sill saying that Snyder films > WW and the others who are more true DC fans and want the films to model themselves after WW's success

now it seems like WB might be fucking shit up with flashpoint as their starting flash movie
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I'm confused. Is there gonna be a Green Lantern in it or not?
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>>85402778
armond white might have some shit taste, and half the time says insane ramblings, but the other half of the time he writes actual, real reviews. Like reviews from pre-2000s that looked at movies in a larger context and what they were about. Not just whether or not they were "fun"
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>>85402925
>but their first 3 movies have been very poor, that is objective fact

nah, as someone who has been reading comics (especially DC) all my life, and who was raised by a big DC fan, MoS and BvS were great.


Sorry you got shit taste.
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>>85402925
>>85403009
btw I like WW too, nice strawman you got there you chucklefuck.
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>>85402925
>le no true scotsman


kek, okay bud. I own original prestige issues of The Dark Knight Returns, floppies of O'Neils entire GA run, original issues of Sandman, DC's Solo collection, original issues of Miracle Man--fuck the list just goes on and on and on. but the point is, im the biggest DC fan I know and I think MoS, BvS, and WW were great.


Hell, skwad even had some good moments in it.
Get over yourself kid, this board is for 18+
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>>85402939
he can write, but his taste is just contrarian and stupid which /tv/ loves to eat up

which is my point. /tv/ at this point is just who can have the biggest contrarian take on ANYTHING

westworld threads filled with shrinkrayfags
got threads filled with tv show is better fags
company war cape shit

mark my words there will be anti-avatar fags when the sequels hit despite /tv/ slurrping cameron's balls when it first came out
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>>85399912
That is laughable.
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>>85398727

based Joss "The Boss" Whedon is going to work his magic and save the DECU like how he made the MCU so great, no need to thank him
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>>85402925
I enjoyed MoS and BvS and I thought them to be better than WW, but I wouldn't mind if they keep doing movies like that from now on. I enjoyed WW for what it was and it had some interesting themes I don't see in MCU movies, like the existence of gods (Steve thought war was caused by men, Diana didn't), the influence of Ares, the WW1 setting.

As long as they don't do more Suicide Squads, there is no schism.
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>>85403009
MoS was mediocre at best
BvS was bad
SS was awful

>>85403118
> skwad had some good moments in it
no it didn't. it was a bad movie. anybody who has been watching movies for a week in their life could tell it was edited by committee

i've been reading comics for almost 20 years, i have no dog in the marvel/dc fight, i want them both to succeed so they can make better stuff, but their first 3 movies were not good
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>>85403118
>original issues of Miracle Man
Snyder will never make a HBO series about Miracleman
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>>85403126
Most of his reviews are performance pieces. He chooses to "like" a movie based off whether he considers its overall message to be in-line with his politics. It's not contrarian. It's basically him mocking what the vast majority of left-leaning critics do when *they* like a film for similar reasons. He's calling them out for their hypocrisy.
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>DC is for Chads they said
>it's Marvel who are the SJWs they said
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>Because of this, a mustache he grew for his character in the “Mission: Impossible” sequel will have to be digitally removed in post-production.
I'm rooting for JL, but this shit's priceless.
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>>85403412

He's doing a pretty shit job of it then since his politics are so contrarian too it's not like he's a regular right winger who likes right wing movies.
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>>85403467
based cruise flexing his producer dick to make sure contracts are honored
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>>85398727
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH A BREAK BROS?
FUCK THIS WORLD
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>>85403033
>ok
I won't make histrionic statements like the legit shills, the likes of which you're assuredly speaking to, but I feel the same as you towards MOS, BvS and Wondy. As do the few of my friends who read comics. And yeah, the read DC predominantly but we each enjoy some Marvel characters and movies too.

One likes Suicide Squad but he's weirdly in love with both harley and margot robbie so it was pretty much a lock for him.

But I suspect many of us who just happen to like DC comic have a pretty good view of the trinity flicks. Again, I wont sit here like a shill saying COMIX READERZ LOVEZ DA DCEU but as far as I've encountered it many DC fans that aren't always online kinda look at the hate waves with some level of perplexion.
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>>85403482
Describe to me what, to your mind, constitutes normal right-wing politics.
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Cyborg looks like ass.
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>>85403420
>>DC is for Chads they said
of the swoleleft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-SiZSlmhI
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>>85403420
Gays can be Chads, bro
Gay does not mean SJW, a lot of them hate trans people actually.
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>>85399912
>these evil MEN cant stop waging war, they need the compassion of a WOMAN to save the world :^)
>*massacres conscripted teenagers she could take out non-lethally throughout the movie*

good stuff
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>>85403537
I'm with you. I've read titles from both companies for a long-ass time. The vast majority of the histrionics come from bandwagoners, in my opinion, who don't understand that to long-time fans, there's only one thing that ultimately matters - a good story.
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>>85399034
Defend that damage control, boi.
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>>85403541

in the american context: being pro-gun/anti-abortion/pro-family values/pro-law and order/aggressive foreign policy/having lower taxes/lower social programs/pro-capitilism, which you could read a lot of into modern movies very easily if you wanted to be le bias on le purpose for le statement against le liberals

meanwhile he is more like how 4chan is "right wing", just disagreeing with whatever he thinks is mainstream at the moment, I've seen him defending gay culture if he thinks he can say something edgy about hollywood using "queer face"
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>>85401096
because we got balls you fucking faget, plus its not just indians who like DC you fucking racist every black guy i know likes them and every chick, so go watch your marvel kiddy films you fucking pedofile
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>>85403750
ok >>85400056
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>>85401768
could you put that in a actual article somewhere that i could link people to. it's interesting.
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>>85403988
The text without the pics of MCUcks embarrassing themselves is not as fun
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>>85400953
A lot of directors schedule reshoots from the start. Once they're part way through editing, they know what they'd like to cut and what info they need to cram into different scenes.
But big reshoots are almost always a sign of a trash movie.
If these really are big reshoots then it doesn't look good.
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>>85404139
just use archive pics of old tweets and bloggers making asses of themselves so normies understand. still holds similar weight even if most social media is bots.
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>>85404139
there's gotta be somewhere to put them in. i do think it's actually interesting and i know people who would want to read what you wrote
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>>85403909
Ah, so you're "le oversimplifying idiot." Got it. Right, left, conservative, liberal, they're all gradations and while they're interrelated, they're not interdependent. White is conservative, but that doesn't make him far right, which is what you're describing in your polarized simplification.

Take me, for example. I'm for gun control, but only where it pertains to handguns and automatic weapons. I'm for gay rights, but think all this gender-fluidity horseshit needs to shut the fuck up until it provides hard science to back up its claims. I'm pro-choice, but think it shouldn't be government-subsidized. I'm against big government, but think we need to redefine what we consider to *be* governance. I'm for socialized medicine, but think we should run what government we *do* have more like a business. So depending what topic you choose to discuss, I look either left or right. Armond's no different.
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>>85398727

What's happening: >Re-shoots dragged on for roughly two months

Why: Ensemble nature of the comic book movie, and the fact that its cast includes several of the most in-demand actors working in Hollywood today, is creating scheduling headaches that have prolonged the shooting.


More Specifically, Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot aren’t working on any other projects at the moment, enabling them to be on call for the filming, other cast members such as Ezra Miller and Henry Cavill have been scrambling to accommodate the additional photography.

What's the purpose: Reshoots have been used to punch up the dialogue

Future: Going forward, Warner Bros. has changed its greenlighting process. It will now factor weeks and millions of dollars of additional photography into the production budgets of its major comic book films, according to insiders. Other studios have made similar accommodations on their big-budget films.

kek get ur shit together wb
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Now let's hope you're not too late.
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>>85398727
Ben Affleck looks like shit at the moment so its going to be immersion breaking when he suddenly switches to SlobMan halfway through.

you can also tell the newest scenes they've filmed in the recent trailer. He looked great when he speaks to Arthur Curry in the first trailer. Now he looks like shit and will look even shitter.
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>>85398727
>I don't even have to say it.
JUST tell us what you were going to say.
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>>85399106
Its not that its like 'DC IS DEAD' its that we are defensive of Snyder and feel like Whedon is going to overstep his bounds which it looks like is happening.

Since this is America I fully expect the Whedonplebantikino to gross 1.5B. FML
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