>In one of the most widely debated decisions of the war, the

>>85347070
if the Germans didn't halt their advance at dunkirk WW2 would've gone alot different, crushing the brits at Dunkirk would've eroded the morale to unprecedented levels

>>85347070
Typical American response.

>>85347070
he's right you know

>>85347070
>so it was bad decision making by the germans and not civilian boats which saved the day?

Both, really. The Germans inexplicably halting bought time, but without every fisherman, ferryman, and pleasure boater along the coast coming to the rescue the army still would have been lost. For all of Britain's famed naval power, it had never envisioned a situation where it would have to pick up a whole army off a beach.

ginger pilot and the old guy steering the boat were interesting, prove me wrong

>>85347070
>bad decision making by the germans
Hitler considered Britain to be a Nordic sister-nation and offered to make peace one month after cancelling the wholesale slaughter and imprisonment of the 400 thousand allied troops. It was his naivety that cost him the war and his belief that the English could be allies.

Churchill repaid the favour by firebombing thousands of German civilians in Dresden and elsewhere. But never forget that the nazis were ebil and we're teh gud guys :-DDDD

>>85351424
Never forget the pure evil of the Anglo

>>85347070
sup /his/

You're half right. A lot of the major defeats from Germany could have been prevented with better planning, but hindsight is 20/20
They would have had a fuck-all time invading england though. And a conditional surrender would have likely just been england conceding europe.

>>85347070
American and/or female detected.

>didn't see it 70
>rates it 6/10

this board is George Carlin-tier comedy

>>85352465
>>didn't see it 70
huh, OP here, I saw it in the 70mm format

>>85352698
Name the theater

This isn't your fucking blog

Hitler naively thought sparing English troops would enable a peace treaty
Of course Britain was so committed to the war it was considering that they were willing to combine with France into one country to keep the war going

just drove fucking 7 hours round trip to see this movie in imax 70mm and good god am i disappointed
the first 15 minutes were good but then nothing else happened the entire movie
>oh wow we're getting bombed again oh no
just non stop action it was so fucking boring i didnt care about any of the characters of storylines and i have no clue why i bothered seeing this in imax 70 its not visually impressive at all

>>85352889
why? are you autistic?

it was a theatre in Canada

>>85348114
I'm American and I loved it. Almost cried at the end.

>>85353587
there was nothing moving in this movie
just trying too hard to sound epic

>>85353347
Sounds like you saw it in Lie-max. Kys

>>85347070
your honest opinion just sucks bro

>>85354184
are you mad because i didn't like the movie?

according to this site, I did see it in real 70mm and not liemax, the theatre i went to had format code 1570
http://www.lfexaminer.com/theaIntl.htm#CANADA

>>85352465
I saw it in 70 today. Is it really better?

Im watching hacksaw ridge for the first time on hbo and after seeing dunkirk, this shit is like watching a cartoon. The level of gore makes the violence unbelievable compared to dunkirk even though that had no blood.

The character building complaint about dunkirk is stupid, hacksaw has the characters converse about ma n pa back home after watching their entire regiment wiped out and it seems unfitting.

>>85348114
Butt hurt frenchie

>>85351424
>make peace with the nation which would literally invade every neighbouring country over the course of WW2
>the same country who's government has reneged on every international treaty it was signing


Yeah, totally reasonable. But it's okay guys they don't want to genocide us, we might as well trust them!

Fucking wheraboos

>>85347070
>nameless characters, sometimes literally
>no really, who are these people
>tell me anyone's name in this movie
>15 lines of dialogue in entire movie
>non-linear storyline
>lets queue up for the bombers
>lets have tea and toast
>muh sacrifices

tell me how this is so highly rated

>>85355211
tits or gtfo

>nu/tv/ unironically enjoyed this movie
It's fucking garbage and you know it. Nolan hasn't had a clue since The Dark Knight Rises, and this was the climax of it.

Typical americlap bait ebin action scenes of faceless cgi soldiers getting blown up 100 ways from sunday. Once the shock factor of the action scenes wears off the movie becomes a grind, because the writers have made no effort to create empathy for the main characters, with probably less than two dozen lines of dialogue, and absolutely no information on who they are or why we care about them any more than muh soldiers. They're just as irelevant as the faceless cgi blobs and extras placed throughout the film.

Also the entire premise of the movie is bullshit. The evacuation was relatively peaceful considering that only about 3500 british soldiers actually died in Dunkirk. The real casualties were the French on the front lines who we didnt even see, because that might have made for a remotely interesting movie.

The only so called emotional part is when they get back, and its supposed to be all uplifting and shit, but again, the movie basically made no effort here. They basically showed what happened in real life and called it a day, the emotional ending basically being that people were dying and now they arent so horray for us. It's a cheap exploitation of a historical event for box office $$ and this type of movie has sadly become commonplace thanks to retards who will gladly eat it up because muh dead soldiers.

>>85355498
>only men will appreciate this movie
can you actually provide reasons why the movie is good? or are you a meme-spouting idiot that blindly follows whatever /tv/ says

>>85355505
>>85355634
circumciseés detected

plane pleb here

can someone tell me why hardy's character didnt just jump out with a parachute above the ally occupied beach instead of flying into enemy territory?

tia

>>85355498
>newfag misusing memes
imagine my shock
>>85355211
this, the only named character is that George kid who smashed his head open
>>85355505
Oh yeah and btw the people who made this have no clue what happened at dunkirk. There are blatant historical inaccuracies that anyone who knew fucking anything about world war 2 would know.
Example:
>Britain never even came close to abandoning them like the movie said. The whole 1 ship a day thing was a straight up lie.
>>85355722
What the fuck is that supposed to mean
>>85355899
plane would crash into troops being evacuated. Also he was too low and spitfires had no ejector seats

>>85355938
you are american, aka circumcised

>>85356029
I'm a Brit you faggot. It's American retards who are fawning over this movie

>>85356091
lol im italian

>>85355938
oh ok

why didnt he land in the water then, like the other guy?

>>85356239
>t. salty mussolinifag
doesn't change the fact that dunkirk is a bad movie

>>85356359
water was full of boats

>>85347070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbKYbLUkIpk&feature=youtu.be&t=1h32m6s

> About being in the moment than characters stories
> Didn't care that characters were flat; see above
> Not heavily reliant on action but suspense and terror
> Looked very good on 70mm
> About the visuals than dialogue expositions Nolan is known for (in a bad way)

Cons:

> hokey ending with reading of Churchill speech in newspaper
> the timeline of events was very off and did not match up
> too much of the music score

7/10

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>>85351424
>Germans started bombing the RAF's supporting structures near the coast
>Changes strategy to start bombing London where civilians are.
>Uk does the same in Dresden
OMG DA EVIL ANGLOS >;D

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>>85351424

> forgetting that the Nazi's started the war

>>85351424
To be fair Stalin also naively ignored the German army massing on his borders and his inaction cost the Soviets millions of lives as well as losing basically all of their industrial centres in the west, so it's not like it was just one side being total idiots.

>>85354677
Dunkirk could have used a little more. The amount of violence in Saving Private Ryan was good because the movie was good, and Dunkirk would have been the same.

The best part of the movie was following Tommy trying to escape Dunkirk from start to finish and finally getting out. He tried multiple ways to get off and each time failed, and it just showed you how futile escape was for those men.

hitler would never win the war. the best he would get is forcing an armistice after winning in france. after that peace an insurrection from his occupied territories would grow into a mass revolution in a decade and collapse his shitty empire.

most forms of governments do not last a long time but fascism is dependent on war economies to survive. peacetime doesn't suit a command economy.

I don't understand. Why didn't the germans just fucking slaughter them when they had the chance? Why? I mean they couldn't possibly have gotten a better chance in the future so why didn't they do it? It's fucking retarded

>>85358561
>armor and artillery overextended and in poor repair
>troops exhausted
>french putting up a surprisingly strong resistance
>british forces trapped with nowhere to go, sitting ducks on the beach
>u-boats maintaining good coverage of the channel, no helpful amount of rescue is coming
>huge overestimation of capabilities of Lufwaffe
They halted to give their army a breather, re-restablish supply lines, and gather intel on the details of the french defense around Dunkirk. In the meantime they had full confidence that the Luftwaffe would be able to slaughter the trapped British from the air, since their submarines were preventing any real help from coming. What they didn't account for was:
>RAF being gud
>civilian boats being utilized to reach the trapped soldiers

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>shills get btfo
>they abandon thread

rly makes you think

Leaf here, 6/10 at best and yes I saw it in IMAX. The only person I gave even half a fuck about the entire time was Tom Hardy. The rest of it was like a documentary except without any semblance of realism and no accounts from anyone who was there. The action was mostly so muted it failed to capture interest, and the entire film felt about 45 minutes longer than it was. The entire plot with the guys on the boat went pretty much exactly fucking nowhere and if they'd replaced it with some cuts to the Frenchmen struggling to hold the line it might have been better. God forbid we have anyone speak french and need subtitles though, murrican audiences might lose their shit.

I'd unironically go see Valerian again before seeing this again because at least that was an entertaining trainwreck of a movie, whereas this was just dull.

>>85358561
There was still a massive army to the south you knuckle dragger

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>>85359420
I swear I thought this was some anonymous blogger talking about what it's like on 4chan before I realized what it was an excerpt from. I was like "damn this guy's on point".

this is the only thread about this movie? did it suck or something?

>>85361619
It was a technical success but honestly pretty boring and historically inaccurate.

>>85347070
>so it was bad decision making by the germans
>bad decision making

Don't you mean good? Advancing at Dunkirk would mean leaving their flanks exposed to the french who were still fighting, the generals decided to wait for the supplies to catch up and advance to Paris, the only bad decision making here was Goring who thought wasting a gorillion planes on this operation fighting the RAF near their home turf was a fantastic idea

>>85351424
Hitler had jack shit to do with the halt order, it came from his two generals, not the austrian autist, he just said "ok".

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>>85361619
Yes my child. The only things worthwhile in life are discussed here on an anonymous weaboo imageboard. If it isn't discussed here, it might as well not exist.
Suck down that ambrosia, being blissfully content in your cocoon of ignorance, knowing you'll be happy as long as you don't step foot out your own door if someone on the internet doesn't tell you it's a fun idea. Take solace knowing you'll always be right as long as you agree with strangers about things you never wanted to try yourself.

You little cocksucker I can't wait for school to start back up again.

>>85361619
Learn to use the catalog, newcunt.

>>85361841
i voted for trump and hate sjw's and reddit because 4chan says so haha!

>>85361619

No you see it's the polar opposite on /tv/ we only talk about how much we hate bad movies and this thread is the best OP could come up with to be contrarian.

>>85361982
This is what made you lose an election to a fucking meme.

>>85354503
lol damage control

>>85351125
they were likable, which many characters failed to be in the movie. I saw some speculation that the lack of development was supposed to show how expendable soldiers were or something like that. I thought Nolan almost pulled off the balance of development but failed to really give anyone a satisfying story beginning and end, except the pilots

>>85362145
how is my post damage control? I watched it in 70mm, are you stupid or just pretending to be?

>>85362467
I think he's actually both.

>>85356682
>the timeline of events was very off and did not match up
What do you mean by this?

The music score also blended in quite well with the effects I thought.

>>85361619
yeah but the box office money is paying for shills to spam threads about how bad it was with >t. butthurt amerilard/frenchie/another strawman

>I'm done, Kirk
What did he mean by this?

Ha so what was the point of the convoluted narratives? Why does Nolan have to do some weird time shit with his movie? Literally added nothing to this film. Myabe it helped the pacing, but it made it unnecessarily convoluted and almost asking for some sort of twist/climax where it all comes together, but it makes nothing of it.

Germans never wanted to eradicate the English. They didn't want to kill them at all, because they fit in their plan. That's why they showed mercy and Dunkirk. That's why they only did bombing runs on them and didn't do a full on invasion.

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>>85351424
bad /pol/ revisionism

The halt at Dunkirk was mostly Goring convincing Hitler that the luftwaffe could subdue the pocket (if Hitler wanted to let them go as a peaceful gesture, why attack them by air so much?), confusing strategic objectives, bad command & control, and overextended supply lines.

Also Germany deserved Dresden. Do it again Harris.

>>85353334
Where did you drive to senpai-a-lam?

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>>85351424
t. mad kraut surrender cuck

>>85351424
>Start war
>WAAA WHY WILL PEOPLE NOT SURRENDER AND LIVE UNDER MY RULEEEEE WAAA

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>>85351424
DO

IT

AGAIN

BOMBER

HARRIS

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>>85351424

From The Art Of War
>"To a surrounded enemy, you must leave a way of escape"
>"Show him there is a road to safety, and so create in his mind the idea that there is an alternative to death. Then strike."

>>85363680
Your such an effete girly bitch who pits the same pic on the same thread every time. Are you the Basterd grand-child of a German soldier and a French slut and hold a grudge?

>>85351125
The old guy was the biggest non-character in the entire movie.
'No, we must be stronk 4 Britain'
'That guy might be alive, we must risk our lives because muh son died in army!!'
'I represent the entire British pplz so I am VARY honorable'

>>85351424
redpill

also must watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gPFy89q_Do

>>85354677
Hacksaw Ridge was so much better than Dunkirk it's not even funny. It has actual characters who, even though they appear like shitty caricatures at the beginning actually evolve and change, decent action and actual suspense, as well as a clear beginning and end. Dunkirk had some better cinematography though, but that's about it.

>>85364823
They're COMPLETELY different movies, you may as well start telling me that The Lion King is better than Black Swan.

>>85364565
You're not very good at reading people. Try view it again and see how he reacts to situations.

>>85351424
where do your kind come from? are you even white?

>>85364921
They are both war movies.
The Lion King is a cartoon and Black Swan is about ballet.
What did you mean by this?

>>85347070
Dunkirk is about an event not a person desu. This isn't Pearl Harbor

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>after ALL that shit, Tom Hardy's pilot character just gets captured by the Nazis and probably killed by firing squad or something

Its not fair

>>85365412
Nazis were subscribers of the Geneva Convention, surrendered prisoners of wars were treated pretty well.

Japs weren't on the other hand and prisoners didnt enjoy it so well

>>85365412
western front famalam, luftwaffe dudes were especially nice to their opponents bc some bs about we wuz knights of the sky n chivalry n shiet

>>85365595
Japanese people were insane back then, go figure

>>85351424
are you that guy who went to the alt-right rally to show off you epic memes and got shoved around by actually nazis who recognized what a gigantic pussy you are?

>>85365595
germans killed 3 million Soviet POW's

>>85367081
because the russians killed the germans too.

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>>85367164
Far less despite taking more POW's than the Germans did

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>>85365412
Not at the start of the war to an RAF pilot they wouldn't have. He would have been treated pretty well all things considered.

>>85365412
>implying getting caught wasn't part of his plan

>>85369354
Baneposting really is the eternal meme isn't it?

>>85369354
>German soldiers round Farrier while his spitfire is burning.
>One of them looks at him and says "you're a big guy"
>Farrier says "For you.", as he is hurriedly moved away off the beach.
>screen goes to black.

was it pottery?

>>85367081
Most died after supply lines to the camps were bombed by the allies, hence the emaciated, typhus ridden corpses. In some cases the camps themselves were bombed by the allies, unwittingly.
As the noose was tightening on Germany, the POW's were the first to suffer

>>85371649
awful damage control. They deliberately starved the Soviet POW's then cried when the Soviets did the same to them. Western POW's weren't starved or massacred (as often anyway)

All these fucking threads are just shitted up by people discussing politics FUCK OFF

>>85355211
>tell me anyone's name in this movie

George. He hit his head. It's real bad

>>85371722
It's not damage control, it's what happened.
Not saying people weren't treated horrendously, just that when the supply routes were blown to shit and times were tough for the Germans, the POW's died en mass.

>>85371882
It's a WW2 themed movie, you fuck off if you don't like it

>>85365412
Did the nazis kill ttheir POW?

>>85372172
ITT, kids who don't know what Hogans Heroes is

>>85353623
that scene when the little ships show up and the men cry out with unrestrained joy had me feeling some serious feels. also bane removing his mask, burning his plane and being captured was kino

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>>85351424

>>85372225
You think Hogans Heroes is historically accurate?

>>85372078
if there was no deliberate killing of Soviet POW's, then they all would have died at the same rate as the other nationalities POW's.

Yet this isn't the case

>>85351424
>Hitler was a trust worthy ally.

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>>85367081
Soviet Russia never signed the geneva convention :3

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Dunkirk was inconsequential.

The second Germany invaded the USSR, it lost the war. The objectives of Barbarossa and Hitler were unwinnable. They could have won a limited war to take Brest-Litovsk territories had they not genocided all the locals, but the whole "war of annihilation" and taking the whole of eurasian Russia was untenable and guaranteed destruction.

Of course nazi's were retards and as their troops were fleeing from the gates of Moscow in freezing panic, Hitler declared war on the US to cheering masses. Gee, what could possibly go wrong!

>>85372578
USSR did sign the geneva convention, though they didn't ratify it

geneva convention specifically says that the signatories will respect its protocols even from states who are not signatories.

>>85351088

There were next to no civilians involved in the Dunkirk evacuation. I hope the movie doesn't perpetuate this garbage.

>>85372443
Of course not.
People asking if the Germans killed POW's on sight are fucking retarded. The Nazis obeyed the Geneva Convention as much as any side did.

>>85372172

Rarely (for Westerners).

Shit out of luck on the Eastern front tho.

>>85372680
This, but Hitler's regime had no choice but to invade. It was powered on aggression to fuel the economy and keep morale high and resistance low at home.

>>85372680
But spergy neckbeard san, this thread is about a movie about the very thing you say is inconsequential. if you just need someone to talk to try the suicide hotline

>>85372786
You see the boats being requisitioned by the Navy while the main protagonist and his sons are preparing to set off over the channel.
They leave port while the Naval guys watch

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>>85372172
only Canadians

>>85372963
wtf is this image?

>>85372907

Oh. Good.

Was worried we'd see thousands of chavs coming over the horizon in row boats screaming "You mess wiv one of us, you mess wiv all of us!"

>>85373015
Welcome to 4chan, be sure to tell all your friends at school about us ^-^

>>85373031
The film tries to be accurate but there is an implication of 'Brits coming to rescue their guys' when you see the coast dotted with boats.
It's part of what makes the movie so great, it make you feel proud to be British or (like me) just have the union jack on your flag

>>85348070
ITT: pseudo intellectual anti logic

Man I would've loved to see a Stalingrad movie by Nolan

>>85372963
she looks so happy :3

>>85365595
dude they were bombing the "mole" and actually hitting red cross vessles are you fucking high

the amount of wehrbooing in this thread is blinding

>>85373759
In the movie, yeah

>>85364239
yeah the art of war definately was super relevant in hitlers after more than a thousand years where every fucking weapon is the fireworks you heard about in the ancient china x 120000

seriously just because hitler named the jew doesnt make him some sort of super human. the only source for this hitler """"let"""" everything happen is his own bloody reflections in 1945

>>85373898
i wil guess the google that that is an accurate part in the movie

>>85373417
a historically accurate stalingrad movie would be fun. In Enemy at the Gates you'd never know that the Soviets had far more tanks & aircraft there, human wave attacks never really happened there, or that nearly as many Axis and Soviet soldiers died

nevermind that much of the battle was fought on wide open plains far from the city.

>>85373759
they had not surrendered. big difference.
tom hardy, on the other hand, had.

Damn, a lot of women on /tv/ suddenly.

L O N D O N

>>85357244
naively... he was only fighting japan on the opposite side of the world

>>85351424
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion

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>>85373908
Yup, He wasn't some 'great military strategist' like some think, he was just an apprentice painter who performed well in WW1 and got mustard gassed.
Removing Jewish control of Germany's ravaged, post WW1 economy was the best thing he ever did for his countrymen. Sending them to war, not so much but he really didn't have a choice.

>>85347070
Honestly OP people rage at haters of Dunkirk but my family had some serious doubters so I think its not impossible to hate this movie.

I'd say my brother and mother had the same reaction roughly.

>>85355505
They should have replaced the Mole storyline with a French only warfighting storyline that shows how they held off the British might have added 10 minutes but it'd be nice. The French kid who was on that minesweeper or whatever could have been the son of the commander and have been a coward who wanted to go to UK for a new life.

>>85356682
Where the music score went too far was the ending credits which were way too intense and didn't give the audience any chance to breathe. It should have had a hopeful song not a Zimmershit song.

>things you don't see on British TV
Hitler's Appeal for Peace and Call to Reason to Prevent WWII in 1939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAV1_bol2BM&t=227s

>>85374083
have you read the geneva convention you muppet?

>>85372786
Civilian boats, though.

>>85352465
What's so special about 70? I live in bumfuck nowhere, so I doubt any theaters here use that.

>>85356687
>hehe im a non-white look at me

I dont understand why he didnt land the plane in the safety zone? Why glide all the way out to the german's to land?

>>85377292
There were too many men all along the beaches for him to land safely

He barely avoided crashing as it was

>>85377292
He already turned around once while gliding. Turning 180 degrees without power kills a huge amount of speed. Turning around once was already pushing it, and only because it was a Spitfire, which turned beautifully, did it avoid being cringy.

>>85372172
Mass planned murder of eastern prisoners.

Some mass murder of western prisoners.

>>85377292
>>85377393
>>85377514
Because like Rylance said when someone asked him where'd Hardy fly away to, he was still able to destroy more nazi planes while he was in the air
Between landing in the safe territory and risking going further but destroying some planes to make the evacuation safer, he chose the latter

>>85347070
I'm thinking of seeing this film, but know next to nothing about it, other than the actual historical event. How historically accurate or centered is the film? Like does it use a Tora! Tora! Tora! approach to depicting both sides of the conflict, or is it just a simplistic view of the event from the perspective of a few British soldiers?

I wish the soundtrack just straight up played Nimrod at the end instead of blueballing for the whole thing.

>>85364565
The old guy was ex navy.

>>85374083
Those evil unarmed red cross boats not surrendering

Bomb the fuck out of them

>>85374284
what is some far-right newspaper headline supposed to prove exactly?

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You all clearly don't know shit about how PoWs worked

It was all about whether you were commissioned or not. If you were a commissioned officer (which pilots were) you'd go to an officers PoW camp, which weren't too bad.

Also you should watch Colditz (the 70s series) if you want some PoWkino.

>>85374751
>"We don't want a war guys!"
>Starts a war

It amazes me that nazi revisionists genuinely exist.

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Obligatory

>>85378769
What's funny about this?
Why are normalfag memes so shit?

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Aerobane

>>85378594
France and Britain didn't have to declare war.

>>85378805
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>>85378834
VICTORY HAS DEFEATED YOU

>>85378839
Hitlers revanchism meant he was going to come after Alsace-Lorraine inevitably, obviously the Allies were justified in taking a stand before. Their only fault is not doing so in Munich.

>>85378839
>France and Britain didn't have to declare war.
So we should have broken our promise to Poland (that we would enter the war against Germany if Germany invades them) to not hurt Hitler's feelings?

>>85378839
>DUDE WHO CARES ABOUT TREATIES LMAO

Germans did it in WW1 and then again in WW2, they assumed that other countries actually honour the promises made.

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>it's an "ameritard can't fathom the idea that a ww2 film doesn't have to always be the usual WE THE BEST LET'S KILL ALL THE EBIL NAZIS SO HEROIC SO PATRIOTIC SO VICTORIOUS shootout propaganda flick" episode

Now see how the /tv/ opinion will change with other Dunkirk threads while the ameriturds are asleep

>>85379191
>Germans did it in WW1
How so? Do you even know how WW1 started?
>and then again in WW2
The treaty of Versailles was grossly unfair to Germany and completely crippled the country placing it's citizens under undue hardship. Of course the 'international Hyenas' as Hitler called them, were there to pick the bones like vultures.

Serious answer to OP, god help me

The fact that "The Story of Dunkirk" is a bittersweet victory/loss with a fear that it was only possible because of German errors merely adds to the story if you're British.

We typically don't like outright American styles Big Fuckin' Heroes. Same goes for the Battle of Britain. The story mixes with discussions about radar, forward air controllers, bad German strategy, superior incendiary ammo. Rarely will you see a version of British made wwii drama that says "MAH SUPERIOR ENGLISH VALUES

An example; Sink the Bismarck. A procedural drama where a crappy wwi Biplane cripples the biggest warship EVER because the German designers forgot to make it so their guns could point down

Aside: A lot of the "Little Ships" were actually forcibly requisitioned by the Navy, their crews elsewhere in the country. Just adds to the mix

>>85379873
Not who you're replying to, but the German invasion of Belgium was a violation of all major European powers promise to respect it's neutrality and defend it in case of invasion.

I won't dispute the ToV was harsh, but there were no 'international Hyenas' - it wasn't for American loans Germany would never have recovered from WWI anyways.

Tom Hardy's plane and the boy who hits his head were both symbolic of Britain. It was a sad story of the death of a country. Wonderful movie, really visually spectacular, shots gave the impression of men trapped between the sky and sea. The film was more like poetry than prose.

>>85379873
>Germany invade Belgium, who were neutral, using an irrelevant event in Austro-Hungary as an excuse

>>85380221
>It was a sad story of the death of a country.

>Drinking the /pol/ kool aid

>>85373015

white """""""people""""""

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>>85381094
Black '''''''''people''''''''

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>>85355498
>>85355634
>end up sitting next to some Stacy in the theater
>on her phone half the movie
>gets surprised by and literally jumps out of her seat from torpedo hitting the destroyer even after they yell "Torpedo!" (at least I remember them yelling it)
Honestly don't know why a Stacy would even go see a war movie.

>>85381405
The scene where they're hiding in the ship and it's getting shot admittedly made me jump like a little bitch

>>85381507
The sound on that part is amazing

>>85381405
It's definitely a movie to take your dad and leave the girl at home.
Most girls playing on their phones half the time and taking soc med pictures when Harry Styles come on

>>85353587

this

one of the only films were shedding a tear is acceptable.

I wanted to salute a ww2 veteran or something

only men will EVER understand

>>85361619

I thought it was 10/10 and the best film Ive seen in 2 years at least.

I think /tv/ is just biased against Nolan as they are afraid of being labelled as redditors if they like his stuff

It had more tension than ANY film in the last decade
it was all white males and a lot of ppl here cant handle that too

>>85373908
>art of war is outdated

wew lad good luck in the business world kek

>>85382059
I think this movie wont fair very well at all off the big screen without the big sound. It's a powerful cinematic experience.
I think most haters dl'd a shitty cam torrent or are German or French.
Any Brit or anyone with the union jack ensign will well up watching this movie

>>85356805
Germany and the Soviet Union both invaded Poland but Britain and France only declared war on Germany. Really makes me think... International Jewry was never going to let a country like Germany exist if they could help it and it just so happens the Allies all had ZOGs. We beat the Nazis for the jews so they could control our financial systems, our media, and our governments calling us racists while they systematically replace the native populations with Mestizos in america and Arabs and africans in Europe.

The movie plays out like multiple sequences always building up the tension to a crescendo. It's structured like a Vivaldi concerto with all the characters being an instrument of the symphony and Nolan being the conductor. The ending, where the pilot's wheels are struggling to align properly with the rapidly approaching ground, was like a metaphor for the entire movie and encapsulates the uncertain mind state of all the soldiers involved.

"Will I make it?"

>>85347070
>muh plot
>muh characters/acting

how's middle school going kiddo?

>>85372076
the only reason I remembered his name was because it was in the newspaper at the very end of the movie

A single war forever tarnished France's reputation as surrender monkeys, and for good reason too. Fuck them.

Will Nolan ever make another film where Tom Hardy doesn't crash a plane?

>>85347070
6 = fine