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JUSTICE LEAGUE SYMBOLISM

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>Zack Snyder
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>God reaching out to Adam symbolism
>Horseman kills dragon symbolism
Why is this necessary? It's been established before that the JL as a team aren't gods. BvS was awash with this kind of symbolism as well.
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>>85340697
They're certainly godlike
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I unironically love this.

I don't know why you fools hate it, but I guess Ive always have had a soft spot for religious works of art and allusions to them.
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>>85340739
So the criminals and the JL are similar in a lot of their methods?
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>>85340279
Plebeian
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>>85340279
the more he copies other people's work the more I like him
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>JL trailer is more kino than an entire Marvel film
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>>85340871
>criminals
That's the funeral procession for Superman pleb
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>>85340279
>tfw these 2 parallels were already done in BvS but people were too stupid to see them so now Snyder is making fun of them.
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2deep4me
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wow that's hella f*cking epic
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>>85340279
As someone who doesn't get into this Marvel V DC crap, I find this symbolism interesting and enjoyable.

DC doing this stuff and Marvel doing the family-oriented stuff is great in my opinion. Better than having the same old shit.
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>>85340279
>visionary director Zack Snyder
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Disney's Star Wars™ did it better
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There are grown adults on this forum at this very moment that genuinely believe this sort of thing is somehow deep.
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>>85344137
I choose to believe its very dedicated funposters
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JL has been tainted by hillary supporting SJW redditor hands
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So Flash is God and WW's sword is Adam
And?
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>>85340279
Thank God his chink daughter is dead so he can fuck off.
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>>85343536
btfo
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Allegories that don't make any sense. I love it.
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>>85344257
why do you liberals hate Zack "Kubrick" Snyder so much?
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Symbolism? More like himbolism.
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>>85344257
>calling god gay
It's a shame he didn't take Zack instead
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>find some random ass scene where guy with spear stabs someone
>find some random ass painting where guy with spear stab someone
SNY BOLISM
neck yourself fucktard
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>>85340279
More religious symbolism that literally means nothing while sacrificing the overall cohesiveness of the story. For how long will you fucks keep defending Synder. I think the Warner Bros execs saw him fucking up JUSTice league and they killed his daughter to get him to leave, and brought in fucking Whdeon to do some reshoots and editing to make the movie make sense.
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>>85343536
haha the finn one and the last one are completely different.
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>>85340746

I don't hate it. It's all just shit posting. I don't understand this board mentality. Even if Infinity War does better how does it kill DC? From what I can tell both universe seem popular.
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I just LOVE when people try to find any kind of depth in this piece of shit. For fucks sake, none of it means anything if the plot is nonexistant. And i truly doubt these scenes have anything to do with religious art.
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You can do that shit with any movie. ANY MOVIE. Hell, you can do that with any fucking thing, man.

Come on, name me a movie. Any piece of shit you can think of. I'll pick a shot from it that resembles some religious painting. Or some chinese painting if you fucking want.

You fags only get impressed because these things are pointed to you by faggots with too much time in their hands. Nice, subtle symbolism in movies has existed since the birth of cinema.
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>>85344738

They don't. People are doing it for fun. Fuck this board is easily triggered.
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>>85345064

Kramer vs Kramer
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>>85344326
I'm right wing, I just hate hack directors.
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>>85345064
Okay Mr. Moron.
Find me historical symbolic imagery in UP, Pirates of the Caribbean, or Iron Man 1
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>>85344239
Flash is clearly building up speed force and passing it into the sword so that wondy can use it to kill StephenWolf
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>>85345158
>I'm right wing
Sure Buddy. I'm with her haha
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>>85340279
So I can just buy an art book and get more out of it than this faggot ass pile of shit movie, thanks.
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>>85340697
Why would Flash even point to Wonder Woman's sword? Is he purposefully trying to recreate the painting just for keks, midbattle? Who thinks like that?
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>>85345116
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>>85340739
Pottery
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>>85343536
Kek
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>>85344388
Snyder absolutely did this shit on purpose
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>>85345413
I'm pretty sure that's true of every single movie ever made
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>>85345168
>Iron Man 1
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>>85345944
BTFO
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>>85341671
Thought it was the robbers at the start of the trailer 2bh
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>>85345158
lol. your cunt lost to God Emperor Trump
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>>85345944
SNYDER BTFO!
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>>85341671
Thought it was the robbers at the start of the trailer 2bh
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>>85346746
>You have to pick a political side to like or dislike a director now.
apocalypse now
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>>85345420

he might trying somehow to transfer lighting he creates to WW sword.

or i'm just talking bullshit.
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>>85344388

>random painting
>not a recurring religious motif based on Indo European myth
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>>85346934
you didnt vote for Hillary or Trump? whoa so unique
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>>85347148
I'm not that guy you triggered faggot. I'm just saying you can like or dislike any director regardless of whether their political views match your own. Only a child would think otherwise.
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>>85345944
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>>85347216
t.liberal
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>>85343536
Sorry sweetie
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>>85345944
holy shit he's good
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>>85344326
>comparing Snyder's heightened emotion and fantasy visuals to Kubrick's geometric precision and cool observeration
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>>85345420
>Who thinks like that?
Zack Snyder, obviously.
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>>85345420
>>85347055
OR you know as the trailer suggests, wondy is diving for her sword but can't reach it in time so flash gives it a nudge and in the very next fucking scene she is able to grab it.

It's not that hard you fucking retards. Is cape shit really too much to keep up with?
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>>85340279
Direct symbolism like that pic ironically makes a movie more simpler and finite.
Once you "get" that it is the representation of that religious painting there's nothing else to it, simple and finite. No need for any rewatches or further analysis ever.
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>>85345944
fuckin rekt
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>>85345249
Idiot
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>>85347471
Fucking THIS.
Maybe try watching the shit you fa/tv/irgins bitch about before opening you're bitchy mouths.
fucking bitches
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>>85340279
INFINITY WAR ANON

nobody cares about this dc shit anymore
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>>85347330
>swetting
libcuck detected
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>>85345064
Look, I hate Snyder, but it's obvious this is on purpose. The problem is that it's the only thing Snyder knows how to do, reference previous works of art, but he doesn't know how to organically integrate them into the movie, nor to make all his reference make some sort of sense to add layers to the plot instead of getting in the way of it.
He's pretty much trying to look smart by quoting other people without processing those thoughts to make his own concepts. That's why his symbolism falls flat and has absolutely no effect on the audience, except those who are trying so hard to like the movies that they go out of their way to find every single reference.
That's not how symbolism is supposed to work, it's subconscious and works on you even if you don't notice. When people feel as apathethic towards a movie as they did with BvS and MoS, it's a pretty good sign you absolutely failed at symbolism. When symbolism in a movie works, like in Kubrick, people walk out feeling they got something, even if they don't quite understand it.
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He can't keep getting away with it!
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>>85343536
We all know who REALLY did it the best
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>>85342743
THIS MY GOD THIS I WANT THEM BOTH
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>>85347578
I'm with Her
Hahahahaha
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>>85345944
kek
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>>85348236
truly kino at its finest
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>>85340746
Because this is bastardization of religious allusions. There is no artistic aim behind this other than "look at me aren't I so deep, please see the movie in 3D". If you want serious religious allusions watch Tarkovsky, not a corporate diarrhea moneymakingscheme#965 like capeshit.
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>>85340697
It's because Snyder thinks he's deep and clever, but manages only be trite.
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>>85349280
>le reddit director Tarkovsky
lol
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>>85340279
Did Snyder's step daughter die of embarrassment?
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>>85340697
Someone tell me I wasn't the only one seeing superman throw a literal cross at whoever the monster at the end was.
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I saw an image on here not too long ago of BvS Superman and Jesus piaintings comparisons but I have yet to see them since. Didn't save. Anyone else have them?
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>>85340279
wow Snyder trully is an auteur
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>>85347224
lewl
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>>85345944
Amazing
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Why are plebs so obsessed with symbolism?
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>>85350866
It makes them feel smart
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>>85345944
SNYDER ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>85345944
HOW CAN I EVER RECOVER FROM THIS
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>>85348362
KINO
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>>85350982
>jericho missile
>jericho, where the walls came tumbling down in the bible

SNYDER BTFO
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>>85351070
YOU CAN'T.
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>>85340279
Not even remotely subtle

Like if you are trying to say this is deep, youre pants on your head retarded
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For almost 30 years every character in DC comics have been Gods or better.
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>>85351338
uh gods don't exist sweetie
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>>85340279
bravo sniper
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>>85345064
Show me a Biblical reference in Spider-Man 3, when Brock becomes Venom. Because I feel there's one there somewhere
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>>85348236
>Dude orange and blue lmao
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>>85351400
Doesn't he literally go to church, makes a pact with the devil and gets transformed there?
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>>85351439
I mean, like, a reference to a painting or Biblical imagery.
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>>85351435
>What is contrast
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>>85350866
They think symbolism is merely referencing or imitating previous stories or works of art.
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>>85351518
>Complain about green/blue orange in all movie posters
>Zack Snyder does it in all his films all the fucking time
>Look at this cinegrid! What cinematography! KINO!
Ah, /tv/
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>>85351692
Snyder is not ripping off anyone, unlike those blue-orange movie posters
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>>85351769
>Snyder is not ripping off anyone
Apart from comic book artists
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>>85351813
>Making movies on a license = ripping off

Are you fucking daft?
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>>85351769
Might as well call this movie a Whedon film now. He is getting a director credit and the reshoots are super fucking extensive.

But of course all of it will be ignored.

How does it feel to be cucked out be Whedon Snyderfags?
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>>85347714
Knowledge bomb, dumbass.

The religious and mythological iconography aren't saying that they're gods. It's saying that they're resonating with these mythic, godly beings, becoming modern incarnations of them, echoes if you will, both in the minds of mankind as well as tapping into that same godly magic. The only exception to this is Superman and other Kryptonians, where they're perceived as gods but aren't heirs to that source of power. They're merely the catalysts for awakening magic in the world. It happened with Kara thousands of years ago, and it's happening again with Clark in the modern day.

Literally everything in the movies from the imagery all the way down to the expanding range and vividness of the color palette all ties back into this. Just because you're too dull to pick up on shit like this doesn't mean the rest of us are.
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>>85352195
>vividness of the color palette
This is how I know you're trolling.
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>>85352195
This adds literally nothing to the film.
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BE DINNER
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>>85352013
Nice, I didn't know Snyder got the licenses from Frank Miller and Alex Ross to steal their work.
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>>85352421
What Snyderkino is this?
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>>85352310
It's been expanding ever since Man of Steel.

>>85352347
Yeah, nothing at all, except it's the reawakening of magic that wakes up the Mother Boxes and sets up round 2 of the Earth/Apokolips war. The first time around, it was the Amazons, the Atlanteans, the gods, and an odd Kryptonian/Green Lantern or two.

This time around, it's the League.
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>>85352546
Wow instead of blue and orange now it's just blue!
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>>85352033
How fucking empty is your life, that you have to go onto a fucking anime discussion forum, and type "Snyderfag"?
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>>85352546
Nice to see you had to put a screenshot of a film not by Snyder to show how the color palette has been expanding.
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>>85352195
>they're resonating with these mythic, godly beings, becoming modern incarnations of them, echoes if you will, both in the minds of mankind as well as tapping into that same godly magic.
>except for the character in my pic which shows him resonating with these mythic, godly beings, becoming modern incarnations of them, echoes if you will, both in the minds of mankind as well as tapping into that same godly magic
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>>85352444
How fucking DENSE are you, you baby-dicked low-test nu-male aspie?
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>>85352444
They don't own their own work you fucking retard, DC does. Do you know how capitalism works?
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>>85352628
How fucking empty is your life, that you have to go onto a fucking pedo, and cry about locals not bending over for your tourist ways?
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>>85352707
If you weren't so mean maybe your daughter would still be alive, Zack.
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>>85352721
>They don't own their own work you fucking retard, DC does.
So DC hires literal cucks? Sad!
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>>85352628
How fucking empty is your life that you respond to people so desperate for attention that they go onto anime discussion forums and type "snyderfag"?
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>>85352630
Take your pick. BvS was already more colorful than MoS, and the latest trailer from JL illustrates exactly the same thing.
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>>85352775
Stop it guys, all our lives are horribly empty, and that's why we're posting here. Let's move on.
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>>85352723
>>85352775
Is this your first time on this board? Stop samefagging and reusing my argument like you guys do with BvS quotes.
>>85352758
>>85352735
shit-tier banter
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>>85352788
>That sequence
>Colorful
Are you retarded?
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>>85352879
>shit-tier banter
Shit-tier banter, just like your skin.
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>>85340730
Except they're duplicating the imagery with no deeper meaning. Why the hell is Flash like god imbuing life into Adam? Why is wimpy Aquaman easily beating a parademon from darkside (or some clockwork robot, or something.)
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>>85352903
>i posted the image again ma, maybe they'll believe all DC fans are indians
Leave the poor loo again, I'm sure he doesn't like being used as a cheap reaction image everytime you get BTFO on a Javanese sex-toy manufacturing board.
Must I remind you of who Homecoming pandered to?
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what did this mean?
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>>85352879
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>>85353018
Look at that expanding color palette though
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>>85353018
>still made more money than spider-loo: homoflopping
o i am laffin
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>>85347330
DESU, the guy in the healing machine is supposed to look like it's a halo. That's probably the only image out of all 4 that's likely.
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>>85353074
Spiderman is too white and too male to make more money than Wonder Jew
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>>85353111
>Spiderman is too white and too male
Now this is some top notch bait right here.
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>>85352902
If you can't see how much warmer the palette is in those scenes, in spite of it being thematically and atmospherically the darkest film in the series for several reasons, you should be embarrassed.
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>>85353011
>Leave the poor loo again
>again
Imagine being so mad that in your rage you type a completely different word beginning with the same letter
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>>85353064
>that dark palette
you like everything dark, don't you? like your big black cocks your mom and you takes in
>>85353111
WW should of flopped too because the secondary protag was a blue eyed blonde white male
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>>85352981
Aquaman's never exactly been a weakling, casual.
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>>85353198
If you can't see colors at all, you must be blind.
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>>85343536
3-5 are just retarded. Here's your (you).
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>>85352981
>Why is wimpy Aquaman easily beating a parademon from darkside
That's what he does literally every time he's against a parademon you normie piece of shit.
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>>85353285
But he's always been a BASED HAWAIIAN CHAD YEA-UH
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>>85353235
(you)
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>>85353285
He is gossamer wet tissue paper compared to Superman and WW. He is a weakling. He'd be punked in Marvel.
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>>85353277
>should of
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>>85353277
>you like everything dark, don't you? like your big black cocks your mom and you takes in

A really stellar argument anon
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>>85353198
First off, it being warmer does not mean it's more colorful. Instead of everything being green or blue, he added some orange which is just the most basic complementary color scheme. It's still monotone and not colorful at all.
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>>85340279
Top right looks like a fucking parody. How is the flash in any way comparable to God. He's not. The comparisons to God in BvS made sense, but this is just pretentious
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>>85353507
i fight shitposting with shitposting
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>>85353288
>Mos
Krypton uses a richer palette than Earth, earth is desaturated and Nolan-esque, while still being very bright in terms of light

>BvS
Uses a color palette more similar to Krypton's opening scenes whenever Superman's around, reverts to desaturated Nolan-flavored scenes any time the action's centered around Bruce or Lex. Diana's scenes tend to utilize a warmer palette, too, specifically the museum scene, which, fittingly, centers around a tale regarding a myth. Even though the film is darker with many night scenes, the palette is broader throughout. The largest exception to this is Bruce's first scene, where he's at his most mythic and being perceived as some sort of demon and consequently gets the same broader, warmer palette.

Here endeth the lesson, faggot.
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>>85340279
REEEEEEEEEACHING
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>>85353583
That single shot is more colorful than the whole BvS.
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>>85353646
>That single shot is more colorful than the whole BvS.
>Muted white, muted purple and muted green
>Colorful
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>>85344183
sadly no, some people are just retarded
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>>85353646
Yep. No color in BvS. At all.

https://youtu.be/LzhzNbWOs58
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>>85345420
>All I do is push things and run away
>Flash pushes the sword so wonder woman can catch it
>Runs away
SUCH DEEP ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED. HOW WILL THIS FILM SUCCEED WITH THE GENERAL AUDIENCE?
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>>85350982
He's been on suicide watch ever since his daughter died from auto-erotic asphyxiation.
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>>85354238
Did she really?
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>>85352506
A$AP Rocky.
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>>85354238
You lost anyone close to you yet? You'll regret saying shit like this once you do, even when you're just being a chickenshit, baiting anonymous faggot. No one else will ever know you mocked someone else's loss, but that won't make one fucking bit of difference.

Enjoy your future.
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>>85354270
When ever someone who is a celebrity or is related to them dies from "suicide" it is always because they were into choking and stroking, or drugs.
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Marvelfags are just jealous when they compare their cookie cutter films they get twice a year compared to CapeKino
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>>85354367
Doubt it.
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why are you retards so obsessed with "colourful" things?
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>>85353755
You know what "more than" means, you illiterate retard?
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>>85354470
You ever feel bad about letting someone you love down? When they die, you re-assess everything you've ever said and done, regardless if it affected them directly or not. You measure yourself up against what that person that loved you would have thought if they'd known all the thoughtless horrible shit you've ever done. If you're not a completely soulless psychopath, you torture yourself with it as part of your grieving process, and it forever alters the way you act.

Doubt away, but of the two of us, I'd wager I'm the only one who's already lost most of his older relatives, including my dad. You don't want to stock up on heartless shit like this. Take my advice and beat the rush to becoming a less shit human being.
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If we go by DC standards of imagery, Thor 3 is absolute kino.
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The absolute state of the DCEU
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>>85354270
well she hung herself, nobody knows if she got off before she died but her
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>>85354782
>ripping off the painting in a shitty flick frame
Enjoy your hack sheep fucking director
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>>85354808
That's OK. Intelligence has always been a hard commodity to come by.
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>>85354782
>why's it so colorless?
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>>85354912
I dont think the Marlel will understand your image, considering that his fucking argument is a strawpoll
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>>85343536
>WE WUZ SAINTS AND SHIT
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>>85355021
I was in that thread (the IQ test one). It was 20 questions.
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>>85347471
Holy fucking shit how is that no overtly obvious to people?
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>>85355123
I took a test like that 10 years ago in elementary, for this discovey program. It had to do with identifying shapes and patterns. Glad to say I passed, and went into specialized classes for middle school. I also think BvS is a misunderstood masterpiece
No, it's not classes for retards
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>>85355372
>No, it's not classes for retards
Right.
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>>85355455
>quip reply
shoulda expected it
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>>85355647
And it's just as intelligent as I've come to expect from the House of Mouse,

I watched Valerian today and there's more genuine wit and humor in the first ten minutes than you can find in both GotGs, and all without having to mention one turd!
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>>85354765
No, fag.
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>>85355925
Valerian was fucking bad, the dialogue and acting was awful. Get real
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>>85356337
You're not wrong, but the first ten minutes was still funnier and more deftly executed than anything the MCU's ever pulled out of their ass.
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Snyder is too good for capeshit.
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>>85344560
>I think the Warner Bros execs saw him fucking up JUSTice league and they killed his daughter to get him to leave

>snorts like a walrus at own joke
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>>85355372
>BvS is a misunderstood masterpiece
>No, it's not classes for retards
I'm getting mixed messages here.
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>>85347714
Your explanation proves you wrong, idiot. It does resonate wih many moviegoers, that's why Snyder has such rabid following, and BvS is still discussed to this day by people. Unless you are implying that if you showed 2001 to a movie theater packed with modern audiences expecting to see a summer blockbuster they would actually enjoy it and not tear apart for being boring, empty, etc., in which case you are more of an idiot than I thought.
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>>85358269
But I'm still glad he's in the mix. He's one of the few directors that I think even gives a shit about these characters.
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>>85354782
>it's only ok when Marlel does it
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>>85352758
Marvel is known to be even worse i that regard though.
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>>85360080
>It does resonate wih many moviegoers, that's why Snyder has such rabid following, and BvS is still discussed to this day by people
A few autistic retards here and on reddit do not really count. There's a reason why all of his movies bombed and got mixed to downright negative reviews. They do not resonate with anybody, and what it's worse, he's doing a popular genre and is completely unable to connect with the public.
With this, I'm not implying that all superhero movies should be risk free, comfort movies like Marvel's seem to be (I've only seen Civil War, and it was a cynical piece of garbage). I somewhat appreciate Snyder's attempts but he's just a lackluster director that doesn't know how to build a flowing narrative, nor get engaging performances from his actors and his visual style is monotone, dull and relies too much in references to previous imagery (which he uses in the most blunt, and shallow way and it's not creative at all about it).
I do not think BvS and MoS are shit because they're too serious, I think they're shit because they had shit scripts and a shit director that did nothing but highlight all their faults instead of improve on them, like an actually talented director would.
And having Whedon replace him in the DCEU is nothing but a monkey's paw wish to me, before anybody tries to shove their bullshit company wars on me.
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>>85362581
Dude, I don't give a shit how you try to spin it. No matter what the budget, no movie that rakes in nearly 900 million dollars is a fucking bomb. The fact that it managed that feat uphill against the most relentless smear campaign I've ever seen only makes it that much more impressive.

Transformers and PotC get shit from the critics, too, but there doesn't tend to be a net-wide collection of articles cataloging their shortcomings, whether perceived or otherwise.
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>>85354367
BTFO
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Im impressed. Well done Snyder!
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>>85352788
I honestly hope delusional faggots like you that post apologetics for capeshit are run over and gummed up in the wheel well of a semi.

You are the cancer killing film.
You are the reason hollywood takes no risks
You are the pig licking up the slop supplied at low cast by studio executives that decide things by screen tests.

Please die of AIDs or some other horrible disease.
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>>85353929
>Green
>Grey
>Black
>Orange.

Wow. How excitingly colorful. I'm glad there are still neo-colored movies like John Wick and Enter the Void or most foreign films to make faggots like you seem all the more delusional.
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>>85362939
Dude, his DC movies made about half of his total box office in the opening weekend, which means it was all due to hype and marketing and once the movies came out, they dropped like a fucking rock. They had shit word of mouth, and people weren't going to watch it again. Just look at Wonder Woman: that movie connected with the audience so it didn't just get good reviews, but might end up making 4 times what it did in the opening weekend in the US, and will make about 70 million more despite opening to 60 million less in the domestic box office. And with a much lower budget, much less marketing and a much less bankable name like Wonder Woman compared to two of the three biggest superheroes ever.
If it wasn't for those huge opening weekends, his films would've been massive failures, just see how much they made in the following weeks. If anything, they didn't bomb thanks to WB's marketing team and not Snyder.
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>>85353074
>Actually caring about capeshit box office performance...
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>>85363785
>You are the reason hollywood takes no risks

Snyder and WB took a pretty big fucking risk - they made a megabudget blockbuster comic book movie that is actually targeted at comic book fans instead of bandwagoning fanboys.

Frankly, I'm amazed it got made.
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Just watched the trailer Im fucking hyped

been looking forward to this day forever
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>>85364199
>targeted at comic book fans
It's funny, because most comic book fans I know actually didn't like the movie, and the people I know who did like it, aren't comic book fans.
And I don't really see much love for Snyder over at /co/, except for obvious /tv/ crossposters.
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>>85353074
Irrelevant. Homecoming 2 was already announced.
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>>85364199
Making forced references and making part of your movie a trailer for your upcoming movies isnt cattering to cb fans...
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>>85364199
Your post would be 100% spot-on if you were talking about Watchmen, because that's not a normie-friendly comic. BATMAN and SUPERMAN fighting each other, however, is, and isn't a risk in the slightest.
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>>85364019
And yet actual fans are still finding things in it better than a year after its release. If anything, it was *too* well-made for normies. What pisses me off is faggots endlessly spewing "it's shit" and then proceeding to blame the movie for them being too stupid and formula-indoctrinated to watch and appreciate a film that doesn't assume they're fucking retards.

Want to know a little secret? For all the pissing and moaning the fanboys do about it not being a shot-for-shot live-action DKR, if we'd gotten that, normies would have fucking despised that, too.

>why is Superman killing soldiers?
>why did he rip off Green Arrow's arm!? REEEEE
>Why is it all so dark and grim, I mean, even by Batman standards? Nolan understands the character better
>Why is zombie Superman praying to Mother Earth?
>What the fuck? Batman shot that chick? REEEEE
>Tell that to Joker's snapped neck
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>>85363202
HOWEVER
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>>85364199
I read pretty much every DC comic from the early 90s to the mid 2000s or so, plus a lot from before my time. MoS and BvS were definitely not made for me.
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>>85364508
I'm a comic book fan, and I fucking love it.

>>85364411
I liked the Superman theme playing in a minor key. That told me pretty much all I needed to know. I'm forever hype for this.
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>>85364677
See >>85364698
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>>85364698
Nobody expected it to be a shot for shot live action DKR because only a very small portion of the movie's audience are even familiar with DKR, let alone actually read it.
If people would've liked the movie, the movie wouldn't had dropped the way it did worldwide. With its opening, it was on track to make over a billion and fell way short of that.
The problem isn't that it is or isn't formulaic, the problem is that it's a poorly written and directed movie.
And we still get the ocassional thread saying The Mummy was good, so that's not a good example of anything. We know /tv/ is full of contrarians willing to defend the undefensible in order to show they're not "normies".
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>>85364717
Considering it's pretty much a straight-up role-reversal of DKR, I can't imagine what's there you'd find fault with.
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>>85365083
Not that guy, but what I find fault with is that it's a poorly made movie. I've the comic I can read any time I want to, I don't need a panel by panel movie, I just need a good one.
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>>85365057
>The problem isn't that it is or isn't formulaic, the problem is that it's a poorly written and directed movie.

Yeah? The problem isn't that people are literally too dumb to get things right in front of them? If that's the case, then why do I constantly see retards on here who actually believe that Lex thinks Superman is a god?

That's not the movie's fault, nor the script's. Its the audience's fault for assuming that since it's a comic book movie, it can't possibly be smart and the villain must reveal his dastardly plan to the hero because that's just how these things are done.
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>>85365083
What a great fucking comic. Miller went off the deep end though.
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>>85365853
He went off the deep end because he wrote a graphic novel detailing the perils of normalizing extreme violence and "gritty realism" in comics and maybe one person in a hundred got that. So what did he do? He went into satirical self-parody mode, pushing the envelope ever further in hopes that more people would get the joke. They didn't. They embraced it.

Almost exactly the same thing happened with Lobo.
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>>85347471
we dont deserve you anon
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>>85352444
>what is homage?
Snyder loves these guys so he wants to pay tribute.
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>>85367304
>"loves" Miller
>talks about how Batman kills people in TDKR
Yeah nah.
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>>85367401
>he fell for the "batman never kills meme"
lmao okay
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>>85364550

WW 2 is already coming too, all that much fresher than 2nd movie of a 3rd reboot.
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>>85366166
>this post
go one....
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>>85367544
>posts a picture that isn't from TDKR as proof that something happens in the book
Anon I don't think you're really on the same page as I am.
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>>85345249
>>85345420
Just passing her the damn sword
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>>85366166
>They didn't. They embraced it.
He embraced it himself. Haven't you read Holy Terror, or the latest bunch of Sin City stories? He bought on the character he created himself. Pretty sad.
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>>85367304
We already know Snyder can't create anything interesting on his own, so he relies on reference to attempt to do so, most of the time not realizing that what made the original powerful it's completely missing from his reenactment.
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How do we save this board from third-world mouseshills?
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>>85341212
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>>85362581
>"It doesn't resonate with anybody!"
>someone point out to you the people it resonates with
>they don't count
Great argument you have there, buddy. You don't just dislike the movie, but you actually have hatred for it to the point of lying to yourself. Can't imagine how empty your life must be.
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>MCUck thread
>DChads don't give a fuck and let them talk about their meme movies

>DChad thread
>MCUcks get triggered and invade the thread with their low IQ manchild memery

Really fires dem neurons, why are MCUcks so insecure despite insisting their movies are superior?
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>>85364508
Anecdotal evidence means shit, bucko. I know plenty of comic book fans who liked it or loved it, but it doesn't mean shit does it?
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>>85354782
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Your post does however serve as a window into the mind of a low IQ mousepajeet, really gives a solid idea on their brain and their artistically bankrupt processing of cinema.
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>>85368946
If you're gonna take everything at only a literal level, please point me out to where I said it doesn't resonate with anybody.

At any rate, of course there's gonna be somebody to like the film. Even the shittiest films have their fans. But the fact is that the vast majority of people didn't like Snyder's films, that's why they have such shit performances on the box office, after having such auspicious opening weekends.
Nice projecting on the last part of your post btw.
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>>85369336
What evidence does that guy have that the movie was made for comic book fans, when it actually shits on the characterization Batman, Superman and Luthor have had in the comics for many years?
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>>85345944
>>85350982
KINO
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>>85369509
How can you write a post this long without saying anything at all? This is surely an accomplishment.
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>>85369569
That the people behind it have said so and the fact that there is clearly a subversive intention behind the movie, which would knly work if you already have knowledge of who this characters are and the stories they've been in. The thing is many comic book fans don't like seeing their characters subverted, specially in the movie that is supposed to kick off the cinematic universe.
So that's why you have many comic books fans who hate it while at the same time the movie being made for comic book fans.
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>>85346888
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what does this symbolize, /tv/?
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>>85348236
i have no dog in the capeshit fight but you can not possibly think this looks good
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>>85353018
This looks like a Bollywood movie
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>>85347471
Kek I love how people over analyze anything. There was no fucking religious/God imagery about those scenes
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>>85354907
Taika Waititi is the bomb. You shut your fucking mouth
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>>85369509
Kids seem to love this movies. You know, the people who they are made for? You are a grown ass man, why do you act like you have stakes in this? Why do you hate the movie and the people who like it so much?
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>>85371042
I did say something, namely that most people didn't like his films and it shows by their poor performance after the opening weekend, when the word of mouth goes around and the true popularity of the movie itself shows, and not just how successful the marketing was.

>>85372716
I went to see it because my nephew wanted to. He was fucking hearbroken when we walked out, and most kids were bored as shit with the film and started talking and asking what was going on.
It's too complicated for kids and too dumb for adults. It's just a movie for nobody but a few edgy teenagers or manchildren that fall right in the middle.
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>>85347471
>>85354128
>>85367864
>we've devolved so much that these people are the geniuses now
This is sad. But there's still hope, considering that there were multiple people this smart.
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>>85347471
That's Snyder fans for you.
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>>85373204
Nah, kids actually like the movies because they just want to see Batman and Superman doing their shit. They don't care about the story too much or plot holes or not being faithful to the comic or whatever fat neckbeards care about. My nephew was given some BvS action figures on his birthday, I asked him about the movie he said he loved it.
On the other hand teenagers will love them too because they are edgy and dark. Kids simply are more innocent, they aren't jaded or cynical like you.
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>>85341525
MoS trailer 3 blows every single Marvel flick out of the water. It's crazy how good it is.
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>>85340279
pretentious as fuck. how is this clever it doesnt even mean jack shit when the films never explore philosophical ideas beyond "POWER = RESPONSBILITY"
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>>85345944
>I made this joke a long time ago
>somebody actually made a pic out of it
Well gee if I knew people would enjoy it that much I would have done it too!
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>>85373645
Snyder just wants to recreate his favorite paintings, nothing pretentious about that.
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>>85373549
>they just want to see Batman and Superman doing their shit.
Exactly, and BvS had about 10 minutes of that in a near 3 hour movie. Kids won't hate it, they'll just get bored by it and move onto another movie.
And I'm neither jaded or cynical. Nice projection, again. I went with him again to see Wonder Woman and we both liked it. And our experience seems to reflect pretty much everyone else's, considering how these movies performed everywhere.
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>'Superman was a beacon of hope'
>MoS trailer 3 music remix starts playing

What did they mean by this?
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>>85340279
Honestly. I am DCEU fan, but first two trailers looked better for me. Maybe it's just hype.
Same thing for Thor Ragnarok, first trailer was very good, but second looks like a mess.


>>85373595
>nor very first MoS trailer with LotR music and Malick-esque autistic shots
GetoutscenefromJobs.webm
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>>85373960
Nah, generally kids love it, just like any other superhero flick. it has enough Batman and Superman in it for them to come out satisfied, specially considering the third act is almost entirely one big action set piece, so they come out of the theater with that fresh in their minds.
WW didn't have a whole lot of action either, they don't see the difference between those movies, they are all just the same to them.
>>85369569
That the people behind it have said so and the fact that there is clearly a subversive intention behind the movie, which would knly work if you already have knowledge of who this characters are and the stories they've been in. The thing is many comic book fans don't like seeing their characters
>And I'm neither jaded or cynical. Nice projection, again.
I'm just going by your posts, dude. Also you are an adult, your sense of wonder is not the same as a child, so yes, you are jaded just like most adults, and cyinical because you think no kid can enjoy BvS, when the fact is a lot of them certainly do. You seem to be projecting your own opinions on to them.
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>>85373595

Let's rank the DCEU trailers.

ELDER GOD TIER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cYR5MFb8Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgrvm6OI_9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfUnkBfdZ4

GREAT TIER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVu3gS7iJu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6DJcgm3wNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AO19XY2rqc


GOOD TIER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWzgGyAH6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gglkYMGRYlE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cxixDgHUYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZwsbcW-d-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lGoQhFb4NM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLQK9la6Go

SHIT TIER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fis-9Zqu2Ro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSB4wGIdDwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_6yBZKj-eo
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>>85374512

MEME TIER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHlI3AKWRwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSB4wGIdDwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlqGvf4dYNY
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>>85374452
I'm not, just look at the fucking numbers. If kids would've loved it, they would've gone to watch it again and again, like kids do, and the movies wouldn't had dropped like they did.
On the other hand, look at how Wonder Woman is performing. That is what happened when most people actually do like a film. They recommend it to others and go to watch it again with their kids. None of this happened with BvS, and that is an objective fact, backed up by actual numbers and not personal anecdotes.
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>>85374629

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw__B24L-70
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>>85374635
Are you implying adults don't watch movies more than once? How do you know it didn't make as much as it did because of kids? You don't and you seem to be implying that I'm saying WW is not as good or something, I know WW is making a lot of money, how is that an argument agaisnt kids not liking BvS? Maybe they just didn't like it as much, who cares?
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>>85343536
N-not so fast!
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>>85349280
They've been tired as fuck since cool hand luke. Possibly earlier.
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>>85353011
You're getting blown tf out. I'm crying.
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>>85340279
Cool
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>>85354276
That's Kendrick Lamar
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>>85373549
You want edgy? See the company that treats putting an "instant kill mode" in a suit being worn by a 15 year old kid like it's a joke. So far, the DCEU hasn't treated anyone's death like it's a laughing matter, hero *or* villain.
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>>85353375
no he isnt you casual
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>>85373430
>the idiots saying its stupid and doesnt make sense are the snyder fans


you're retarded
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>>85364666
You're right. Forced references don't make it faithful. Good thing that's not what ihey're doing. They pay homage to iconic CMB imagery while also honoring the spirit of the characters and their central themes, things that are absolutely lost on normies.

Donner gave us some wonderful Superman films back in the 70s that honor everything that was best in Superman's Silver Age. Snyder's given us films that capture the character's modern incarnation while honoring the history and spirit of the entirety of comic book history.
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>>85367640
Look at the pic in >>85365083 and realize that Clark's thoughts are basically what happened in comics between the Golden and Silver ages, where comics characters like the Batman morphed from pulp vigilantes into family-friendly, "wholesome" entertainment in response to parent's groups and "morality police" like the CCA.

Realize that the Mutants represent the resurgence of comic book violence.
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>>85381253
Also, take note that up until the iconic fight, all of Clark's violence is presented in the finest of Silver Age tradition. It's either only alluded to or shown in such a way that any casualties are incidental. He cracks battleships in half, he blows up anti-aircraft guns, but never once do we see him directly inflicting death on another person. That shit is not a coincidence.
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>>85380660
I really miss rebirth costume. Merged is shit.
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>>85340697
Because superheroes are literally Gods and Angels among men. duh
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>>85340279
CAPEKINO
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>>85369144
>DChads
This just makes me wonder what you look like, anon.
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>>85354808
>>85354912

Genius here. Justice League will smash Thor in the box office.
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>>85340279
>It's another everything in a DC movie is symbolism thread
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>>85382421
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>>85353018
somebody post the webm of Hugh Jackman punching into the air with headset on LOL
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>>85353074
>this is what dcucks unironically think
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>>85354912
>dc
>intelligence
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>>85383832
Go ahead and take the test then, chickenshit. DChads honor strength, be it physical. Intellectual, or spiritual, though a mixture of all three is ideal.
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>>85340279
>: DCKINO.jpg

Direct Copy
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>>85352981
You're trying to persuade 15 year old internet autistics that they're not deep. No force in the universe has ever been able to that except time itself. Just roll your eyes and move on while they keep trying to imagine that Zack Snyder of all fucking people, is some genius director because he can reproduce the composition of a comic book or a painting.
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>>85340279
Based Zack
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Marvelets are too brainlet to understand. DChad intellectuals all the way.
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>>85383832
>>85383963

Another MCUck brainlet too scared to even try. Where is their honor?
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>>85348448
that pic gave me a boner anon
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>>85368378
>We already know Snyder can't create anything interesting on his own
>what is Sucker Punch
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>What is Sucker Punch
A terrible movie where nothing has consequences except at the very end
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>>85391578
You're not even smart enough to understand what the title implies.
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>>85354782
>Valkyrie
>black
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https://youtu.be/g_6yBZKj-eo?t=87
>no Kryptonian

The amount of information conveyed by these two words is staggering, and it goes a long way toward confirming what DChads have been saying ever since MoS.
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>>85340697
its called art and culture educate yourself somtime, im sure /r has plenty of usful tools
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>>85344580
shhh, dont tell them, let them think they know what their talking about or they will call us plebs and dcucks and tell us to go back to lay red it >>85343536
nice comparison my dude, they all look completly similiar and arnt grasping at straws at all
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>>85349280
There is no artistic aim behind this other than "look at me aren't I so deep, please see the movie in 3D".
seriously all you religophobes

if you truley dont see the allusions then you need to go back marty
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>>85368378
i know right, how dare he use the comic books based on the characters hes portraying in his film, for refrence to story, and character what a fucking hack,
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>>85393070
its a hint at black adam mate hinting to the shazam film, back in the day darksied and his gang were banged our by atlanteans and themascera and a kyrptonian and a lantern but the kyriptonian was actualy black adam before he went mental darkseid was unaware of what black adam was and coul;d only atribute such power to one of kyptonian origin or such that which live in orbit of a red sun, the person alfred talks to is actualy shazam/ billy and its similar to how ironman meets spiderman
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>>85340279
>Snyder's a christfag
>he believes his daughter is in hell being tortured and raped by demon dick 24/7 for all of eternity
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This thread is great. Don't let it die.
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>>85365436
No. The first 3 DCEU movies are written like dipshit fanfiction, even worse than some of the comics.
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Can he make up his goddamn mind. Earlier DC movies were weak because of a weird gimmicks like that. On one side they try to be superhero movies for general audiences on the other Zack Snyder inserts the out of place symbolism. This things are not going well together either make the serious movie in which you are focused on your philosophical messages. Or make the blockuster movie about heroes for general audiences. You can't have both as presented in a Superman and BvS because this things are not blending well together.

Why try for a third time? I am afraid that this movie will reach the height of bizarre. On one hand normal marvel-like superhero things because studio wants to make money. On the other hand blatant and unclever symbolsim.
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>>85394622
It's either Clark, Hal, or Kara.

Also, just the simple mention of Kryptonians implies they've encountered them before. It's a possible hint that the version of history both Zod and Jor-El reference in speaking with Clark isn't Krypton's true history, and their real reason for abandoning exploration was because of Darkseid.
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>>85396559
No, you're just an idiot that needs spoonfeeding. Sucks to be you.
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>>85374512
Man of Steel trailer was fucking beautiful.

I wish the movie focused more on outcast Clark.
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>>85399818
I would love to one day get an extended cut of Man of Steel.
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>>85400260
I want a director's commentary for MoS and BvS. Why won't Snyder do one? He did it for Watchmen.
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