What's your favorite Saw trap?

The one where it traps you in 4chan for the rest of you life and even though you desperately want to get out and do something with your life every single day finds you coming back here to shitpost about nothing with a bunch of other dead souls.

>>85336688
the sound spikes was spooky af

fags need to learn to spot marketing

>>85337075
You can think of it as a reverse bear trap

>>85337040
HOL UP JEFF

>>85336716
delet

Well I don't know about you guys but I think the new Saw movie, titled Jigsaw looks phenomenal. It seems as if the geniuses at Lionsgate are really evaluating what went wrong with the admittedly, poor sequels and are making appropriate changes to the series. This is Saw for 2017! I have no doubt this new film will be able to provide us with the spills, chills and kills we all want to see! With over forty million trailer views across all platforms, I have no doubt Jigsaw will be a bloody success for Lionsgate and a scream for audiences. This October, our favorite puppet is coming to take back Halloween. Rated R.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPP6aIw1vgY

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>>85336716

>>85337075
>WAAAAAAAAAAH PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT MOVIES
Plenty of OT threads for you to bitch about

>>85336688
I can't think of a favorite one. But from memory I think the one I thought was the most brutal and unfair was the room in the first saw movie.

>naked
>covered in flammable goop
>entire floor covered in broken glass
>code to lock on wall somewhere
>room too dark to see
>have to use matches while covered in the goop
>limited matches means only so many tries
>also I think he was poison?

It was just too much.

>>85336688
The one wear that singer from Linkin Park went through life suffering everyday from depression. Shit was long-term.

the one where they saw a roastie in half in front of a huge audience and no one even attempts to stop it

The Drashig pit

I like the good old bathroom from the first movie. That place is a hellhole that makes people crazy

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>>85336716
dude

>>85338083

What was his crime? Changing lanes without signaling?

>>85338138

The singer from Linkin Park actually was in a Saw trap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcVJ84Hrsl8

>>85336688
My favorite saw trap was the first one. They trapped me in a movie theater and I had to watch the whole thing.

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>>85336716

>>85336688
The Coffin Trap

Having an entire wall crush you is fucking nightmare inducing and it was pretty clever too with the bait and switch with the coffin

>>85338195
Faking illness so he could get NEETbux.

>>85336688

the carousal from VI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DeKEtx7jyk

This is pure terror. One of the sacriest things to me is how people act when they are very close to death

I think my favorite SAW was the one where it was revealed that no one had to die or suffer any serious injury if only they had worked together and not had been a bunch of greedy fucks

>>85338306
This. I wish all traps were clever like that.

I still like the water cube because it's so simple, yet so terrifying
https://youtu.be/2weFqCRsxFY

>>85336688

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g-an5p0Qjg

This is the most brutal

>>85338305
Sweater vest dude should've lived

>>85337040

Wouldn't you pass out pretty early on, though? As soon as the first arm was twisted you would probably pass out

>>85338202
Holy shit, really?

How did the casting for this film even go down?

"We could get an actual actor, but you know what, let's get the guy from Linkin Park."

>>85339053
Chester was a fan of the series and knew one of the producers.

>>85336716
based purgatory poster

>>85337973
How much were you paid to post that?

>>85338305
>Jigsaw is all about giving everyone a chance to escape
>4 people were helpless and had to die here
*logic*

>>85339176
It abides by Jigsaw's logic, not your low IQ perception of what you think his logic is.

>>85339176
Everyone did have a chance to escape. Their chances were 1/3

>>85339411
Actually their chances were 50%. They would either escape or they wouldn't.

>>85339709
No you switch every time and it increases the odds that the shotgun isn't behind the door

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>>85336688
I actually like that one where you put a ring on this dishwasher but instead of doing what it is supposed to, it drains your money and talks behind your back. It's psychologically traumatizing.

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Any trap where someone escapes even when they aren't supposed to

>>85339950
What would you call Amanda and Strahm's inescapable traps? They're not in the same spirit as John's.

>hook through mandible

>>85339107
None but he did manage to bait at least one autist, can you guess who that was?

>>85340043
Which traps?

>>85339875
You mean the one where you spend your life putting up emotional barriers only to let that special someone finally tear them down and completely destroy your soul making you believe that it's your fault you're going to end up alone again even though they were the one that betrayed you?

Y-yeah.. that's a good one.. ;_;

Are any of these traps gay?

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What went wrong?

>>85339251
But what that anon said is correct and they literally discuss it during the film

>>85340195
Define gay

>>85340202
"killed off" his partner so he had to talk to himself
I enjoyed the movie otherwise.

>>85340043
>>85340132

I think he means this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0AFqLjAYK3g

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Rank detectives from best-worst

>>85339875
I enjoyed this

>>85340311
fair play he put up a good fight

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>>85340374
This is the absolute worst one. This guy can't act.

>>85340202
The writers deciding to kill him off.

>>85340374
GOAT Tier
Strahm aka Pancake Man, Donnie Wahlberg

Great Tier
Danny Glover, old dude from 5 who got his throat slit in 6, Dina Meyer's character

Bretty Good Tier
Pancake Man's partner, Nigger in 2

Forgettable Tier
Chink who got shotgunned in 1, Nigger who was in 2 but suddenly becomes forgettable in 4

So shit he's amazing
The internal affairs guy in 7

>>85340311
How the fuck was he supposed to get the mouth one out without ripping his face off?

>>85336688
The one where you have to cum in 3 minutes while watching your waifu getting blacked

The ones that would cause major issues for you whether you got out or not. I believe the "angel trap" specifically points this out, but when I was watching all I could wonder is "how is unlocking a padlock going to help you when you have several metal hooks literally wrapped around your actual ribs" and the answer is, well, it isn't.

I know some were designed to be unfair and that was the point, but some kind of took me out of the moment because it's just ...from the moment they explain the trap it's like "okay well even if they got out of this they'd surely die anyway?"

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>>85340614
forgot pic

>>85339107
The joke is that it's so blatantly written like a direct advertisement, you fucking literal retard.

>>85340556
Reminder that Danny Glover's character lived and became an hero in the video game

>>85340614
Do I have to hold out for all 3 minutes?

>>85340556
Pisses me off that Matthews went through all that fucking shit only for Riggs to get him killed in 4

Did they ever explain why jigsaw killed the dude's wife at the end of the last one? It always seemed to me like he killed an innocent there for no reason other than sticking it to the fake survivor guy.

>>85340786
blame Donnie Wahlberg, he didn't want to come back unless his character died

>>85340572
That's it. He couldn't do it and the door was locked anyway. If I remember correct it was a copy cat jigsaw killer

>>85340817
Jigsaw was infact a very petty and spiteful man who wanted to punish all everyone who he felt wronged him in his life (his doctor, insurance guy, the police, guy who killed his babby)

His traps were only slightly more survivable than the Amanda and Hoffman traps and if they did survive it was only so they could suffer trauma for the rest of their life. He didn't care about rehabilitation.

>>85340572
It was hooked through his jaw, which is solid bone, it would be impossible to do unless he tore off his entire lower jaw, which would surely kill him via blood loss from not just that but the accumulation of all the hook wounds. He was never intended to live.

Not to mention the two in his feet severed his Achilles' tendon when he ripped them out (making it impossible to stand) and Amanda had welded the door shut.

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>>85340572
He wasn't supposed to. iirc this was the one where you see multiple traps that are clearly unfair and it's because one of jigsaws apprentices is working out of anger/revenge instead of actually testing people.

They get more dumb the more thought you put into it. The tape this guy gets gives absolutely no indication of how the one in his mouth is going to be removed, so instantly you should realise he doesn't stand a chance, kind of ruining any drama there is. And that's not including the fact that he'd probably bleed to death/be in an absolutely abysmal state after ripping the others out.

>>85340817
Jigsaw always used innocents in his games, ever since the first movie. He had Cary Elwes's wife and daughter to be murdered if Cary Elwes failed. Jigsaw is a deluded old man, he is not sane, why would you ask such a question?

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Did he really do anything wrong?
Yeah he faked being a survivor to get rich but he still tried to help real survivors cope with the trauma

>>85341007
>ind of ruining any drama there is
Except for the fact the trap is shown in past tense after we've already seen the victim's corpse, so there wasn't any drama to begin with.

>>85340651
There are some seriously beautiful women in porn these days. I don't understand.

>>85341142
and they aidsed

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>It's a characters realize that they're assholes and work together to escape episode

>>85341096
well shit. been a while since i've seen them, although i'm shocked I forgot something so obvious. either way though, that one had my favourite overarcing story but the actual traps just did nothing for me

>>85338536
FUCK.
Yea, ZE > all Saw movies

Why did they pretend they only killed people for doing something wrong but then killed people who investigated them and got too close to catching them? Just seems like they're butthurt about a detective being too smart and not anything about justice.

>>85336688
Never watched these. Are they worth watching?

>>85341271
VLR reminds me of Saw V in that everyone has the possibility to live if they just work together

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How was this any fair, Jigsaw?

The needle pit from Saw 2 is crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CAQ0iZKP08

>>85341374
Isnt there a sign that says not to open the door or something?

>>85341309
just 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OlVXL1zhcc

The Chinese did it better

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LOCAL MAN RUINS EVERYTHING

The one where you have to watch the plane scene without saying anything.
Impossible

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>>85336716

>>85341374
>be american
>get shot in a saw trap

>>85341490
>traps

Wait, I thought it was called this because of how they all dressed like women LOL

>>85341496
For yoz

>>85341309
Depends if you're a pretentious 13 year old armchair critic. It's fun.
>it's dedication to continuity is literally unmatched by any other movie series in the history of cinema
>tightly woven story spanning across seven films which becomes very convoluted, but is a big part of it's charm / appeal
>fun traps
>lovable heroes / villains
>lost-styled mysteries spread across the series, mysteries in saw 1 dont get paid off until the final movie
They vary in quality, but all of them have a degree of entertainment value. The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. It's cool to see a story like this so tightly tied across seven films. They were made for money, like any sequel is, but you gotta give them credit for actually caring about entertaining you. They genuinely tried.

The entire Saw series is kino. You have to be a patrician to see the brilliance and ambition.

are there even any saw traps in these movies? or is it just broken glass and boxes?

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>>85341496
You mean this one?

>>85341309
Up till like saw 4 yeah, even that's debatable.

>>85341623
will I still be entertained if I don't like seeing people killed by a sadist

>>85341639
The fir- aaarrrfg

>>85338625
didn't know christopher wanted lorelai that badly

>>85341685
1 2 3 and 6 are good. 4 is ok. 5 and 7 are shit

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>>85341626
Here's one

>>85341639
is that the one where the bitch has a fishhook showed down the throat?
i think i was the only saw trap that made me feel sick

>>85341689
Depends if you care or are interested in the character of Jigsaw and his accomplices. The labyrinth twisting storyline revolves around Jigsaw + friends, the detectives investigating and the traps. Would say each of these elements take 1 / 3 of screentime of the series.

>>85341739
5 is pleb filter noir kino. Kill yourself.

>>85341759
I loved that one. Fuck that bitch.

Remember the trap where the guy gets buried in pig guts. Is this the outlier of the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNNVsbH8vi4

>It's a Dylan and Eric get taken episode
https://youtu.be/I4tn23O-Bm0

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>>85336688
>the one where the main character and a 50 year old smoker have to compete to see who can hold their breath longer

I want to download these but how am I gonna know the order to watch? I thing I, II, III equal 1, 2 and 3. But there after that there are letters and stuff. Is it in alphabetical order? We don't use this order system in the USA.

>>85342038
>it's not my game...

>>85342038
wasn't that dude just a random janitor who basically didn't do anything, aside from smoking?

I was surprised that Saw 3D got such a terrible reception. I think it had the most gruesome traps of the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_PWQMQclk

>>85342102
You're going to have to get better at speaking English if you want to convincingly false flag as an American.

>>85342137
anyone who gives people second hand smoke deserves to be killed in the most brutal way possible

>>85341623
We almost got through a whole post without using the word kino

What's Tobin Bell up to these days, anyway?

>>85339176

To be fair, Saw 6/the carousal trap was a special case in that the people on the carousal were some of the most unspeakably evil people in the series.

Basically, they were the sorts of soulless preppy shits who work for medical insurance companies, who's ONLY JOB was to find ANY loophole for said insurance company, to void peoples member's insurance the moment the company had to pay out ANY money for someone's medical treatment.

Hell, their introduction had them being introduced as a unit, who's sole job was to find ways to fuck people over who spent years paying for health insurance once a person put in a claim needing said company to fulfill their end of the arrangement.

Which in turn is based off of real life death panels: insurance companies, before Obamacare stopped it, could VOID your insurance via any and all loophole they could find no matter how small and innocuous, if they wanted to avoid paying for your treatment. And actually employed entire divisions, who were paid for one task only: finding a way to void a person's insurance the moment they needed it.

>>85341923
Roasties btfo

>>85342166
Doing Saw 8.

>>85342201
He's been dead for like five movies though.
Some flashbacks, alright, but besides that? He's not the main guy anymore.

>>85342102
This >>85342153
Even in the U.S. we know how roman numerals work.

>>85340639
To be fair, the traps that have no escape is a major plot point for the later seasons: IE with the exception of the doctor from the first film, all of Jigsaw's acolytes were generic serial killers who rigged their traps to kill without any chance of escape, because none of them believed Jigsaw's mantra that sadism/near death experience builds character and makes you appreciate life

Is Leigh Whannell coming back for the new Saw? Ever since he left the thriller/mystery part of the story became shit.

Jeff is best character.

>>85342172
And these two who did LITERALLY nothing wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcxZqI8IYw&autoplay=1

>>85342258
Jeff died in Saw 4

>>85342225
They're being really secretive about his presence in 8. I've seen some theories saying we will see the new villain as Tobin Bell. They obviously regret killing off Bell so early so it would be great to see him brought back Fight Club style if the new villain sees himself as Jigsaw.

>>85342307
Yeah in the lamest possible way of all time thanks to the new shitty lol gore writers.

>>85342326
That would be absolutely retarded.

>>85342397
In their original draft of Saw IV Jeff played the second game the Saw III ending alluded to but ended up getting killed by a giant blender.

>>85342445
Thank god you will never be involved with the production of a film.

>>85342460
>dude fight club lmao
And neither will you, pleb.

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It's not really the trap itself, although it's pretty creative, but rather how the participants responded to it. Plus the roastie gets btfo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxMzgewYMRY

>>85342497
So you saw the words Fight Club and your brain had an autistic spaz attack over Reddit-core movies?

>>85342143
>stand out of the way of the spiky things
>just overhead press the weight

starting strength wins again

>>85342662
No, I saw that you wanted to do some retarded bring-him-back-but-its-not-actually-him plot line. So I called you a retard, my dude.

The one where the guy had to crawl through a furnace to get some antidotes in saw 2, he could have lived if he was willing to crawl over the fire to turn it off.

"Once you are in hell, only the devil can help you out." The valve inside had 666 written under it so unless it was a bluff he could have lived. Small things like that are pretty cool to me, it doesn't have to be a gore fest.

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>>85336716
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>85341493
Pretty much the same character as that asshole in Cube.

>>85342727
This way they could show us the new villain getting up to whatever whacky antics he's carrying out without ruining the whodunnit aspect which they're desperately trying to market in the trailer. Autist.

>>85336716
Delete this please

>>85336716
Oh yeah that one was vicious

>>85341085
This guy deserved to live and be happy, dude worked through the traps so well

Why were the critics always so salty about Saw

Sure it wasn't kino but it was something special

>>85342874
Well he lived but his wife and friends are all dead

>>85342249
I know, i'm trying to make a point but i'm struggling to remember the movies well enough to do it because i'm a retard. I think some of the FAIR traps are unfair is the gist I guess, the pound of flesh trap was a fair one with a winner who gets to leave, but I mean you're asking people to cut off their body parts, and the cutting isn't clean its violently hacking away at your own flesh. By the time they got proper medical attention they'd probably be dead to blood loss or have a bad infection.

Those ones bug me because john was involved so it's meant to be reasonable, but has a very high chance of killing both participants and all they did was loan people money it's not like they're horribly evil.

>>85337947
>>85338045
>>85338193
>>85338226
>>85339073
>>85340978
>>85341524

>it's an anon thinks he's depressed episode

>>85342900
Most critics are pretentious faggots. Saw is kino. See >>85341623

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYo6dKubr-Q
Why isn't killing child rapists/molesters like this socially acceptable?

None of them because I'm not 14 years old anymore.

>>85336688
That one trap where it was in broad daylight with hundreds of people watching.

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>>85342952
>all they did was loan people money

>>85343044
As a child you love the Saw movies because they're fun and ambitious.

As a teenager you hate them because you're pretentious and "way too mature" for them.

As an adult you love the Saw movies because they're fun and ambitious.

By Saw 7, it was pretty clear that they had run out of interesting ways to kill people and so the traps kept getting more elaborate rather than interesting. i.e. Someone gets burned to death again but this time it's in a giant pig furnace.

I really do wonder about the new movie and how they'll keep it interesting.

>>85341919
Definitely weirder than most of them.

>>85343006
Everyone deserves their day in court

The one where Amanda has to murder a guy for no reason to get the key for the bear trap

>>85338985
only knee and hip dislocation cause insta blackout

with shoulder dislocation you can still remain conscious if you are in a life or death situation

>>85343199
justice is such a bullshit concept. that is why the saw movies are so shit.

>>85342952
Did you pay attention to the "pound of flesh" trap scene?

Both people in that trap were not "simple money lenders"; they were cold blooded predatory loan sharks who desperate people money then terrorized and brutalized them when they couldn't pay the money back as quickly as they demanded it.

>>85343199
I should have specified after conviction.

>>85343460
shouldn't have borrowed money from loan sharks in the first place

>>85342900

Because they are secretly disturbed by the movies but dont want to admit it

>>85338202
Was this the most redpilled trap?

>>85336688
The one where the guy is shown naked pictures of Hilary Duff and if he gets the slightest boner his dick is chewed off by a hungry racoon before lemon juice is poured on the remainder of his shredded ballsack.

>>85339053
He lived next door to Mark Burg. A lot of the actors have connections to Burg actually.

>>85340374
he's getting too old for this shit

>>85336688
I hate that the series turned from "you have a chance to escape but at a cost" to "you ain't going nowhere mate"

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Did this movie do it better?

>>85343771
B-but audiences don't want to see people overcome their sins and redeem themselves, they wanna see them die in over the top ways!

Why did Jigsaw straight up murder every cop who came after him? Does he not realize that he's a serial killer and that they're just doing their jobs?

>>85343979
Jeffrey Combs was great in this.

>>85338202
IT STARTS WITH

>>85343979
I only remember Sasha Grey being very mean to everyone without repercussions and then at the end getting her head put in the water barrel the exact same moment she is trying to take a last deep breath

6/10

>tfw the new Jigsaw is going to be "campy" and "funny"

Pisses me off. The saw movies are best when it seems like they're in hell or in some horribly depressing situation, where they have to make an impossible choice of death versus excruciating pain and injury

>>85344466
They're simply embracing the memes

>>85342102
Good fucking lord
Saw 1
Saw 2
Saw 3
Saw IV
Saw V
Saw VI
Saw 3D/7/VII whatever

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>>85340556
>No Hoffman let alone putting him in GOAT-tier

What exactly makes a Saw trap scary? Serious question. Some of them I find very disturbing, others are just cheesy. What's the element that makes one horrifying?

>>85338241
>when his fucking arm implodes

>>85345554
Every trap is tailor made to fit with the victim's obsession

>>85345418
But Hoffman was one of the killers so he doesn't count

>>85338625

Somebody needs to edit this with No Surprises by Radiohead playing

>>85341739
>5
>Not the best sequel

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>>85336716

>>85344530
>Saw 3D/7/VII whatever
*Ahem* I think you mean "Saw: The Final Chapter".

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>>85338625
>SAW editing

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>>85346136
How about the scene transitions?

>>85346180
oh my god the scene transitions

>>85338202
why didnt he just use the lever to move his seat forward?

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>>85346233

>>85346241
ITS DA RULEZ

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>>85336716

>>85345620
One of the major reasons it's so memorable. Burned into my mind.

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>>85338625
Why didn't he just drink the fucking water?

Is he retarded?

I mean it is a lot of water and you might piss yourselves from drinking that amount and your liver would probably not enjoy it but come the fuck on just do your best and drink it

>>85346315
jigsaw should have put piss in the tanks

or strong alcohol

that way there is a trade off if you drink all the stuff and save yourself

>>85342225
Chances are he'll just appear in newly discovered tapes for trap intros etc

the syringe pit
2 was the best

>>85346315
He did what he did and he survived

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>>85346422

>>85338625
Why didn't he break the glass?

>>85342261
I want someone more knowlageable on the series to explain it

Come on guys, just admit it, that one makes no sense.

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Saw 1 - 4 unironically have the greatest commentary tracks in cinematic history and I'm the only person who even knows this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpRk1aBA8Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luq6l6fCoG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwgly9vP8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUNub9OXByk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvfSmSoMszk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSZPYExDbEQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9fjiB5T6I

>>85346528
Jigsaw isn't gonna put in some weak glass that he could break with his bare hands

>>85346571
Please upload them

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The social alienation caused by capitalism trap

>>85346571
lmao Leigh Whannell having manlet problems

>"Live or die, make your choice"
>Majority of the time, the choice isn't even theirs
Was jigsaw retarded?

>>85346648
Do you know of any venues for me to upload the files?

>>85347305
volafile.io works

>>85346571
fucking kek

>>85340572
you're supposed to throw shit at the jar with shrapnel. Think the teddy bear is there so the impact doesn't make the battery acid crystals explode.

>>85336716
>I want to play a game.....actually no I don't because my crippling anhedonia makes it so I don't enjoy playing games anymore

>>85336716
fuck man...

Did Hoffman do anything wrong?

>>85345554
it depends on how much you see yourself in the trap. Basically the only one I find scary is the carousel because it relies on your ability to persuade a stranger.

though I think that one depends on the people in the trap working together to foil the gun. Why else would the pedals be left on and the gears be exposed unless the trapper wanted them to be impinged?

>>85340660
Cool

>>85347536
>it relies on your ability to persuade a stranger.
wasn't he their boss

>>85347315
Anyone who wants the commentaries, I'm uploading the best ones here.
volafile

DOT

org/r/czyrpj64

>>85336716
Lmao secretive hive mind club everyone on 4chan is depressed just like me because we're all special here omg the feels dude we are all so depressed and sad the feels bro omg my soul is dead bro its not because my life sucks because I have no ambition it's because the world sucks and we're all based here at 4chan and we're also depressed have I mentioned that we're depressed yet omg life is so gray I am just not like normal people I am special because I browse 4chan a site exclusively for depressed people omg normies will just never understand

>>85348256
wow amazing post my man!

keep it up

Who was in the wrong here?
https://youtu.be/PkaWceoYYDw

>>85338305
Why aren't there ever any suicidal people in this movie?
If I was in the carousel I'd probably just be like "yeah whatever, go ahead. The other people in here are probably worth more than me"

>>85348424
Because everyone is playing to live?

>>85347875
Much appreciated friendo. Shame they disappear in two days, I can't download them now.

>>85348334
Lmao u just get it we kids at 4chan are acshuallyyyy depressed bro so I'm going to reply to your post saying ur post is shot because we are indeed actually depressed bro

Kill yourself you miserable faggot

>>85348256
hehe got em!!
Get dabbed on 4chan losers xD
Haha epic!!!!

>>85348840
Wasn't making fun of 4chan, I was making fun of the person I was replying to

I legit can't remember OPs trap. What was it?

>>85349369
See this
>>85338625

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>>85336716
Is there a way to leave?

Cube is superior trapkino

>>85349919
No, Rose is trapkino

>>85349446
The only way to leave is to become a normie

>>85346241

To be fair, there have been a couple of traps throughout the franchise that have been made it easy to make it out with minimal damage but you're pretty much trying to think about your life and if you can escape such a fate.

The greatest example is in Saw V where the huge reveal is how everyone could have survived with some damage and blood loss if they had just worked together.

>>85346571
these are amazing

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>>85336716

>>85338306
>>85338497

Oh. I see someone already beat me to it. That's what I get for not reading the thread.

>>85350794

I like these movies, I get tingles of inspiration when people try to avoid dying, wouldn't want to be a saw victim though.

>>85350794
The Saw V gag was too fucking stupid though. The first room, why didn't the first one who escaped just smash the other 4 boxes and get everyone's keys? The second room it was blatantly obvious to anyone but a 2 year old that you can fit more than one person in each tube, they're fucking huge. 3rd room, just soak your clothes in water and tie it to the electrodes or, presuming they're not idiots and made it to that point with all 5 people, do as was intended and each grabs one. Final room, just piss in the measuring cup, or spit/puke in it, or throw your clothes in it etc.

>>85348256
aloha reddit

>>85351220
That was the entire point, that he picked 5 people who were so ridiculously selfish that the idea of working together would never even cross their minds. That they were only capable of thinking about themselves.

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>>85336716

>>85351220
>guy kidnaps you and puts you in ridiculous death trap
>There's no way there'll be punishments for trying to cheat!
It's literally not their fault, for all they know the instant they did something 'clever' they could have got their head blown off.

>Interesting torture porn concept
>eventually turns into bland liberal diatribe about how the healthcare industry is evil and how socialized medicine is the way

Wow

>>85341722
kek
I'm pregnant

>>85341689
For 1 and 2, yes. 2 is a bit more gorey but 1 is almost suspense based. They have flashbacks to his earlier victims as they explain who he is and there's a sequence involving the one person to ever escape one of his traps (she becomes a very important character in the later movies) but for the most part 1 is about the two guys chained in the bathroom. Apparently Jigsaw got impatient later on because those guys get hours.

3 is where things get a lot more gruesome, ie the wrack.

>>85351220

That's pretty much the point I was just trying to make as these guys have already pointed out

>>85351273
>>85351331

all that working together shit isn't something you usually think about in a life or death situation. Even when people were being more calm about shit in like Saw...what. II? III?

You still had that one odd or unreasonable motherfucker making it hard for everyone else.

>>85351838
2 didn't really have any more gore but added in a lot more really uncomfortable shit. Getting thrown into a pit of used needles isn't gory at all but is still easily one of the most horrifying prospects to me.

>>85351668
that's in there to further establish jigsaws motivation and backstory, not to convert you. Don't be so paranoid

>>85336716
...

Reminder that Jigsaw only started the games not to get Justice, but for revenge

>>85343673
Diabolical

>>85351910
The needle pit was only fucked up if they are all used and disease ridden. Also because the girl gets tossed in by the other guy instead of having a chance to slowly navigate it.

Maybe I'm just biased because I've been getting shots 3 times a week my whole life.

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>>85338625

>somehow doesn't pass out from lack of oxygen as water fills the air tight chamber

>>85341626
Literally the first movie. The guy can escape if he saws through his ankle. That's the whole fucking plot of the movie!

>>85352795
what

>>85352795
what part of H2O don't you understand?

>>85352795
That's what the pen in the throat is for

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>>85341923

kek

>>85341923
Fuck I see it now. Too bad the other guy doesn't wear a black shirt.

>>85352849

Water can't escape the chamber so obviously air can't come in as the chamber is filling because the only inlet is where the water is coming from. He would pass out as he converted O2 to CO2 by breathing

>>85352868
H20 does not equal O2 moron

>>85353280
how quickly do you think people "pass out"

have you ever tried holding your breath my man

>>85340043

Amanda was different. She just stopped giving a fuck to the point of Jigsaw's traps and her mind broke so she started to outright create traps that would kill people just for the sake of killing.

Strahm was just getting too close to the truth. He wasn't supposed to get out of that cube in the first place.

>>85340556

>I.A. Guy

>So shit he's amazing

I'm fucking laughing.

The question mark guy had no chance.

>>85341923
Really all three of them could've lived if they had just aimed the saw a little to the left or right

>>85343006
>Why isn't killing child rapists/molesters like this socially acceptable?
I'm sure it has something to do with that pesky "Cruel and unusual punishment" stipulation.

>>85352119
And it just so happens to mesh with a particular narrative.

>>85340639

Agent Kerry wasn't supposed to make it out of that. If you noticed she gave up near the end because she realized that the key was literally dissolved because she figured that out too.

Moment Amanda got her hands on her she was already fucked.

>>85339176
>>85342172
>>85346529
Pretty sure the reasoning was that the traps were no longer made by Jigsaw but by Hoffman. We had already seen this with Amanda making unwinnable traps like the guy with the hooks in his body in III. Hoffman made traps based off his sense of justice and righteousness.

>>85353742
What about the first movie where Amanda could only escape if she killed a guy and picked through his guts?

>>85353805
I assumed his chance at survival was based off of Amanda being unable or unwilling to kill him and get the key
Granted he was in an unfair advantage and I'm really grasping at straws with that explanation but this is SAW, the greatest narrative told in the medium.

Jigsaw is all about punishing those who have done wrong, right?
So explain all of the innocent people that have died or could've died because of his games

>>85353413
Not him but there is a difference between holding your breath and actively aspirating CO2.

>>85354095
At the end of the day John was nothing but another serial killer

>>85354106
Such as?

>>85354205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDzHV0_8UI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKJviTdrqzk&autoplay=1

>>85354341
They are people who worked for him, they share a least part of his blame.

>>85354431
A secretary, a paper pusher, and a janitor.
Explain how they should be blamed for anything

>>85354491
They worked for his evil company. "Just following orders" is not a valid defense.

>>85346180
cant stop laughing

>>85354520
>Janitor
>Following orders
Yeah what a nazi.

>>85346180
That's actually really fucking cool.

Wait, is Luke from Gilmore Girls a character in these movies?
What the fuck

>>85336688
The one where I paid money to see more than one of these movies.

>>85342172
>before Obamacare stopped it
Holy fuck you're an idiot

>>85354968
That isn't an argument, right winger. In honest political discussions it takes a logical argument with convincing evidence to change the minds of other people. However, you opted to forgo any of that in place of an ad hominid. The claim made was that Obamacare closed a loophole in the healthcare industry. This kind of legislation is usually viewed by Republicans as "blocking freedom" because it places restrictions on business. However, rational people can see how this sort of legislation is needed to help the consumers. So, claim it never happened all you want. We have freedom of speech after all, so say whatever other nonsensical things you want. I won't stop you.

>>85355286
cringe

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>>85336716

>>85355286
Health insurance companies not covering pre existing conditions wasn't because they're all diabolical Nazis, you stupid ignorant fuck, but because they're a business.
Did you think insurance premiums more than tripled under Obamacare by magic?
Fuck you and fuck obamacare. That bullshit has seriously screwed me and my family and most of my friends.

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>>85341721
I can't even make it past the powerstance without giggling.

>>85355362
>>85355539
Look, I know that you Republicans aren't informed about what Obamacare did exactly but you should have the humility to keep quiet when you are out of your depth on a topic.

>>85346315
Have fun drinking all that water before your head is completely submerged in it

>>85355772
Look, I know you dirty, poor, jobless fucks don't know what obamacare did exactly, but people who actually work got their coverage severely down graded while prices went up. Maybe don't try to defend shit that you don't even know about

>>85356097
Hilarious, you call me poor yet you struggled with moderate price increases!

>>85356203
Did he say he struggled? Why should I be content with paying more for worse service?

>>85356203
Over 300% price increase for worse coverage because I have to subsidize a bunch of dumb niggers isn't "moderate" you disgusting commi

>>85356253
Because its meant to benefit the poor at the expense of the middle class. That is entirely justified to any rational person with a little empathy.

>>85356301
Ah, so you only object to Obamacare on the grounds of your racism.

>>85356401
It depends. My taxes already do a lot to support them, there has to be a line where I am no longer obligated to sacrifice for others.

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>>85336716
t-t-thhats not me tho

>>85356519
Tax rates for all income levels are much lower than they've been historically.

>>85356401
>>85356519
>>85356301
>>85356203
>>85356253
STOP DERAILING THE THREAD YOU SHITSTAINS THIS IS /TV/ NOT /POL/ MAKE A NEW THREAD AT /POL/ AND LEAVE MY SAW THREAD ALONE RREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>85356712
The motives of Jigsaw are literally his complaints against the American healthcare system. This discussion is entirely on topic.

>>85356401
Any person who needs their lives subsidized is a nigger regardless of race.
>making the working class poor is totally fine, they deserve it for having jobs
I genuinely wish for you to just fucking kill yourself

>>85356840
The middle class handles taxes just fine. In fact, as I said above, their tax rates are much lower than they've been in the past. They don't become poor because of their taxes, and it is intellectually dishonest of you to claim otherwise.

>>85356955
Conveniently, the tripled cost of health care isn't included in taxes.
And that's tripled per person, completely fucking larger families.
You're being intellectually dishonest, or more likely just fucking retarded, if you think 500 a month in premiums becoming 1800 a month is fine.
Have a final fuck you, you stupid commi fuck

Was a nice thread till the political spergs arrived.
Stay on the political boards please
Abandon thread now.

>>85357186
>the tripled cost of health care
this isn't the care anywhere. you are just making up inflated numbers. premiums =! all health care cost. Also, some states experienced lower premium increases than others. It wasn't all one massive increase. Most weren't that much.

>>85357388
>nuh huh you're lying your premiums didn't triple, plus some people's only doubled
Oh shit I guess we're cool then, I'm now totally fine with subsidising health insurance for people who didn't care about getting any in the first place

>>85357546
You have bad reading comprehension. I didn't say that premiums didn't triple or say that some only doubled. I said that health care cost overall didn't triple anywhere. You are as dishonest as they come.

>>85338202

>hey lol humans are all the same now die racists lol

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>>85336716
Why did you do this?

>>85342961
"Thinks"

>>85357662
>I said that health care cost overall didn't triple

>nuh huh you're lying your premiums didn't triple, plus some people's only doubled
Oh shit I guess we're cool then, I'm now totally fine with subsidising health insurance for people who didn't care about getting any in the first place

>>85357981
You are a child.

>>85358065
Yet I'm the one paying for other people's insurance

>>85358140
Non sequitur. Your inability to engage in honest political discussion (what I deemed childish) has no bearing on what you pay for with your taxes.

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taxes are theft

>>85358420
There is nothing inherently wrong with theft.

>>85358522
The rain it falls upon the just
And also on the unjust fella
The only difference between them is
The unjust has the just's umbrella

Your English degree isn't paying off is it? Now say thank you to the adult subsidizing your health insurance (me) and go be pretentious fuck somewhere else

>>85338305

What a fucking disgusting cuck, saving the women

>>85358267
>>85358727

>>85358715
Wow #deep quote, I hope you get many upvotes xD

>>85358727
You aren't adding anything new to the conversation with this post. All you are doing is saying another insult and saying that you pay taxes. Those two things have noting to do with the validity of my argument.

>>85359005
Only taxpayers are allowed to have arguments.

>>85359005
So you choose to ignore all my arguments and only address me assessing your intelligence. You must work for the DNC

>>85359106
This guy gets it

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>>85336716
BRING ME TO LIFE

>>85359106
This is about as dumb as saying "only women are allowed to have an opinion on abortion". And the only reason you think I don't pay taxes is because... well there is no reason. I am a taxpayer whether you like it or not.

>>85343556

Bailey Jay

>>85359340
More like saying only women have a say in labiaplasty

>>85359969
Which is still dumb thing to say.