Why don't people understand that this movie is anti-hedonism?

>>85335283
bro drugs bro theyre wicked gnar bro BRO WOULDNT BE AWESOME IF WE GOT SUPER HIGH LIKE THOSE GUYS IN THE MOVIE? BRO YOU GOT THE RIGHT IDEA BRO. AWE HELL YA BRO.

the same reason people don't understand that Fight Club is actually a a scathing take-that to redditors and teenage edgelords. They can't see anything below surface-level

probably because the people that dislike it don't finish it. is it near the end when everything goes to shit?

Because any theme in the movie is drowned out by normie pandering.

what i got from this movie is do the same exact thing he did just without drugs

>>85335283
Because it's a scorsese movie.
If you think there is any kind of "depth" or "hideen message" you are retarded.

>>85335283
Scorsese is really good at making the same movie over and over again.

>>85336588
No, you're a faggot.
But I really want less voice-over in his movies.

>>85336588
he struck the kino formula. Why fix something when it's not broken?

>>85336588
So are Terantino and Scrosayse the same person?

>>85336700
Why continue to work on something if you already fixed it, stop plastering the wall and start fucking painting.

Because people think that showing that something exists means you approve of it. Same reason why movies/games cant have racist bad guys or nazis anymore, even if they are clearly and blatantly evil some people will see that as promoting them.

Case in point: nazis love american history X even though the whole movie is taking the piss out of them.

>>85336779
The only reason its a problem is because movie people give a fuck about who idolises who. Lets the skinheads have their movie, who cares (the jews).

>>85335283
But it's not.
The film has no message. It imparts nothing on its audience. Nada. Zilch. There is no final sequence in which the character has an epiphany, or an "ah-ha!" moment. What it does do is show DiCaprio narrating scenes of wild sex, drug abuse, immoral behavior, lack of respect for the law, and so on, all in a way that doesn't even attempt to demonize these things. No, instead we listen in on how amazing his life is as a degenerate. To top it all off, refer to the scene in which the FBI (CIA?) agent sits on the dirty train realizing that what DiCaprio's character said about him was actually very true. This is the only semblance of a message that Scorsese reveals to us. That people who play by the rules, and who aren't narcissistic hedonists, are miserable and lead pathetic lives of regret.

It's clear that you are a narcissistic hedonist yourself, which is why you are surprised that people don't see this film in your specific twisted view.

>>85335283
Americans are stupid.

how does the mobi convey that it is anti degeneracy? all I saw was 2 hours of sex and drugs and maybe the last 10 minutes the main character was like "i dun a bad guise lol"

>>85336864

This guy gets it.

Even in the end, Dicaprio wins and is implied to have continued leading a life of hedonism and immorality with no repercussions.

If the movie had a deeper meaning, please enlighten me, OP.

>>85335283
Because MC never repent?
There is not painful rehab. He doesn't care about losing wife and kids. He doesn't care about his friends

>>85335283
The antics depicted sure are funny
Kinda destroys your point

>>85336864
>>85336954
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>>85337143
he ends up a washed up economist giving seminars. he lost everything. Scorcese wanted to draw attention to class disparity with the scene of the cop on the train

>>85336864
>the film has no message

No, the truth is
>the film has a message I don't like

This film is about living large and going for the gold. It's about taking initiative and fucking everyone over to win. It's about the cost of victory, both for the winner and the losers. The winner might lose, but the winner will not lose as badly as the losers lose. If the protagonist laid back and took it easy and played it safe, he'd be exactly where that FBI agent was. The man lived a life so great that he profited off of it while he was still alive, and even if he isn't as great as he once was, he WAS great.

Would you live a day as a lion or 100 years as a sheep? I think I know which one you would choose

>>85337343

>class disparity

they would both be on the same train if Dicaprio didn't break they law. That's not class disparity

>>85337500
Or its a dumb movie thats "artistically" styled in order to relieve normies of their money.

>>85337681
it is. The movie was that at the end of the day, the cop may have taken down one wall street fat cat but he's still rides a shitty train and is unrewarded for his good deeds while the corporate elite live lives of luxury by breaking the law.

>>85336954

even when he's supposed to be in trouble it's still played for laughs and comedic effect

>>85337500
>Meaning
>Normie flick
Even if there is some attempt at a theme its retarded and blatantly obvious.

>>85335283
It's best objectivist movie ever.

>>85335283
Because average people is pretty smart?

>>85335283
>he rates Scorsese after Casino