STD vs Orville

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>>85326521
>that door gag
Holy kek this is gonna be good.

Discovery looks nothing like star trek. Its gonna be unfiltered shit.

>>85326521
Neither

>>85326691
At least say Orville looks like Trek.

>>85326521
>Near miss with another spacecraft sounds like two cars beeping their horns at each other
As a radio fan I'm a real sucker for audio gags, that made me chuckle

And what's the first song that plays in the trailer when the credits start up around 1:26? It sounds like it might be original and it's awesome. T-Rex was a good choice too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVEhDrJzM8E

Orville is the natural evolution of the liberal fantasyland that Star Trek was. Not that I am implying that is a bad or good thing, in fact it may even be a great thing, but I do wonder how many jabs at Trump will be included per episode.

>>85326760
I agree, but its Seth MacFarlane so he will probably find a way to ruin it.

>>85326812
Family Guy is unabashedly racist (see Injun alternate reality and the way they constantly make fun of asians). Set is /ourguy/.

>>85326820
What was your favorite part of the trailer?

>>85326903
Bashir's father finally achieving something in his life.

>>85327049
kek, that guy is like the Eric Roberts of sci-fi

>>85327049
They probably taught him engineering in prison.

>>85326521
Star Trek Orville looks like it will be great, adventure in space with a tad bit of comedy thrown in
Not sure about that other Discovery show though

>>85327298
>with a tad bit of comedy thrown in
It's meant to be a comedy.

>>85326521
I'll give Orville a shot. I dislike McFarlene's work, but I have to admit Orville feels and looks more like Star Trek than STD does, which is nothing like Star Trek by the look of things.

>>85326521
Why do you compare startrek to star wars? The first one is clearly a starwars show and the second is a star trek one

>>85327915
>everything is either star wars or star trek.

>>85328008
Please don't tell me that the first thing you thought during watching this new std trailer is not "wow this looks like a good star wars show". It does not remind me of Star Trek, not one bit. It's action this, action that, Star Trek was never about action

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>>85328008
Yup, that's definitely the implication that a dim person would take from that.

>>85328102
it's clearly JJ Trek style
Which makes sense since the only reason this show exists is because based JJ took the corpse o Trek and breath new life into it

>>85328102
It's really not like star wars. It looks like a generic sci-fi action series with some pseudo intellectual jaden smith tier shit thrown in.

>>85328243
That sounds like the description of the new Star Warss

>>85328243
It's exactly star wars, the lead negress is Luke/Rei and Sarek is Obi Wan/Luke.

The Orville made me laugh.

The kind of laugh that you make when someone you hate cracks a joke that's actually funny.

That Star Trek trailer, I fail to see how it resembles Star Trek and not a sci-fi movie.

What is even the main focus of this Star Trek compared to others? With Deep Space nine there was a space station and then a war, with Voyager, stranded in the far uknown space, with Enterprise it was the beginning.

If this one is after Enterprise, does it still consider it canon? Shouldn't Archer be there?

>>85328332
It's ten years before TOS, that means Archer is long dead. It will be about, uh action? I don't know the trailer doesn't say much except boom boom boom

>>85328332
Apart from the fact that this is nearly a century after enterprise (so no archer), the rest of your post is what everyone is wondering about.

>>85328326
>laughing at unfunny things

>cringey hapa who hates God
>making anything of value

Discovery looks kino, I just wish they'd have gone a different route with one of the actors.

>>85328411
>every line of a comedy should be funny
>>cringey hapa who hates God
It's not like Gene was a monk

>>85328385

Isnt it set in JJ verse trek though? Archer was still alive during Star Trek 09, so will be alive during Discovery.

>>85328550
According to rumors, it's a new timeline entirely, made to look like JJtrek to appeal to normies, and the words prime timeline being thrown in to appeal to trekkies.

>>85328550
Jesus Christ, that completely slipped by me. Archer was what? 200 years old, and Portos was 100?
I am glad JJ is off to ruin SW,

>>85328550
>Isnt it set in JJ verse trek though?
No, it just looks like it. It starts in the main timeline, which they're going to somehow reboot during the first episode

>The new TV series will be set in the "prime" universe -- meaning not in the J.J. Abrams movie universe -- and takes place ten years before the start of Captain Kirk's five-year mission.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/10/entertainment/cbs-star-trek-discovery/

>Burnham [has] spent a lot of time on Vulcan, but she’s human,” Harberts says. “Sarek [Spock’s father, played by James Frain] plays an important role in her life, which has been completely planned until she makes a very difficult choice that sends her life on a very different path. When we meet her, she’s the First Officer on the Starship Shenzhou [captained by Philippa Georgiou, played by Michelle Yeoh]. And Burnham’s choice that we’re alluding to is most difficult choice you can make — it affects her, affects Starfleet, affects the Federation, it affects the entire universe. That choice leads her to a different ship, the Discovery [helmed by Captain Lorca, played by Jason Isaacs] and there we begin what Gretchen and I call our ‘second pilot.'
http://ew.com/tv/2017/06/26/star-trek-discovery-storyline/

The timing is also stupid, because 11 years before Kirk's mission, The Cage takes place, so The Enterprise may be out there somewhere.

>>85328613
The timeline splits at the begin of Kirk. By setting the show before Kirk it's in standard timeline.

>>85328753
I don't get it.
the JJ reboot was a great occasion, you could have TNG 2.0 except completely different because..new timeline and whatever tech you wanted.

A prequel and well all know how it's going to end

>tech better than what comes after
>fucking with the canon

Sometimes when you're hot you're cold.

Sometimes when you're dead you're alive.

Sometimes when you're left you're right.

Sometimes when you're deep you're shallow.

Star Trek Discovery actually does look Prime timeline in my opinion. The problem is it doesn't look TOS. Looks more like DS9 era mashed up with ENT era mashed with Mass Effect.

The Shenzhou looks like an Akira class starship had a baby with the Mass Effect universe.

Interiors, Uniforms etc are pretty much all ENT though.

That being said, there is one quick shot in the new STD trailer of what looks to be a Cage era uniform.

>>85328845
>the JJ reboot was a great occasion
No it wasn't. It was a disrespectful cunt trying to turn Star Trek into Star Wars because he always loved Star Wars and thought he'd never get to make a Star Wars movie. He single-handedly ensured we'd never get a decent Star Trek show ever again, because they'll just keep trying to ape him to make as much money as he did, but it won't work, because the normies won't stick with it (as we can see from the 3rd films box office).

Don't even bother responding, I have no interest in what anyone who likes JJ Trek thinks about anything.

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I honestly don't know why people are pissed about the updated Klingons.

Klingons were always fucking shit and looked like shit. They at least now look sort of alien and the redesign of their shit is fucking cool. The new Bat'leth is fucking dope.

I honestly hope we get redesigns of all the Trek aliens. Honestly, TNG/DS9 era redesigns looked like ass 99% of the time. (God the TNG era Romulans and Andorians)

>>85328957
>Don't even bother responding, I have no interest in what anyone who likes JJ Trek thinks about anything.
How can debate exists if you make a point and don't allow any sort of answer?

>>85329065
>I honestly don't know why people are pissed about the updated Klingons.
Because we're being honest and (You)'re not.

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Klingon space helmet is some fucking Enclave shit right there.

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>>85329133
Communists

>>85329136
New Klingons look legit better than shitty TNG/DS9 Klingons.

Hell even the JJ klingons were better than the 90s Klingons. At least the Klingons in Into Darkness actually fit the lore better (Klingons being bigger than humans, several times more strong etc).

Ffs in DS9 Ezri Dax kicks Klingon ass in hand to hand combat.

>>85326521
>Space Truckin'
pure coincidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs-j6qBJ1ns

>>85329065
When it aint broke, don't fix it.

Ds9 klingons looked great. ENT andorians looked great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtHM77IRkus

>>85326521
Why is the deflector dish pink?

>>85326521
>macfarlane
i'd rather masturbate with barbed wire for the rest of my life than watch anything involving him

>>85326521
>STD
was it intentional?

According to the panel there is TOS era Klingons and normal looking Klingons as well.

They talked about how different Klingon houses have different looks and different cultures.

Was it FASA or STB Klingons where the Klingon empire was actually made up of multiple races all serving under the main Klingon race?

>>85326521
>0:37
alien reference?

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>>85329102
A reminder that we have seen the sword of Kahles, the first Bat'leth so this ancient Klingon excuse doesn't justify this existing.

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>Casting Star Trek actors
>Hiring Star Trek directors
>Primarily inspired by TNG, objectively the best series
I think Seth is a smug douche with a punchable face, but this is the kind of shit people in /trek/ threads would love.

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>>85326521
>Discovery looks like an absolute mess of dumbed-down hollow action
>Orville is full of unfunny humour

I JUST WANT SOME GOOD TREK

>>85329633
>being a slave to visual continuity
I bet you think the mirror universe episodes of ENT are good.

>>85329065
They are ancient Klingons.

>>85329827
>Not caring about canon
I bet you think Enterprise ever did anything good

>>85329136
Were you angry when TNG added head ridges to Romulans?

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>>85329981
>thinking visual continuity and canon are the same thing

>>85329065
I should hate shit like pic related but the comfortable ambient sound of the Enterprise always keeps me immersed

>>85326521
STD looks like your average action show. thats not what star trek is about

>>85329999
No, and here's why: TOS designs were limited by their budget, e.g. Klingons, when Gene finally got the money in TMP to do it how he always intended, he did, that design was stuck to. If the Romulans were in the TOS movies he would have fixed them too. These redesigns are not about making them look realistic, they're just changing them because they don't like Star Trek and want to make their own thing, but the brand will bring in too much money to ignore completely.

>>85330042
It's not an issue of visual continuity, that's just how you're framing it, they are ignoring the canonical reason that type of sword is called a Bat'leth and just completely redesigning it because they want to and don't give a shit about canon, if they're even aware of that fact at all, which I sincerely doubt.

>>85330077
t. never watched DS9

>>85330143
So why didn't they update Vulcans to have head ridges too, since they're essentially the same species?

>>85330198
They aren't supposed to be the same, evolution exists. Look how different their cultures are, they wanted them to be visually different too instead of just different uniforms.

>>85329485
you'd think so, and yet here we are
worst timeline

>>85330198
Vulcans appeared in the TOS movies, it wasn't a change that Gene intended like when he fixed Klingons and Romulans personally, as was previously mentioned.

>>85326521
Just make Star Trek: Aventine
Would be hundred times better than what we are about to get.

>>85330314
How different are you compared to humans from 2000 years ago?

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>*eerie piano*
>I'd looove to change the worrrrld

DROPPED

Shit looks awful. But the "le deep monologue" from the main character at the beginning of the trailer sounds like something a 13 year old hip hop fan would write. I kept waiting for Jay Z to show up and go "Uh... Uh.... Uh...Yeah.. Uh..." in between the sentences.

Keep in mind Braga is an EP on Orville

>>85330441
We're taller, we live longer, we have higher rates of autism. No doubt there's a lot more non-obvious differences too, and countless advances in our immune systems. But then we didn't move planets and experience completely different selection pressures than their ancestors like they did.

>>85330314
*cough* white and black people *cough*
both still recognisable as being human even though they are differences due to evolution and culture. also when did the vulcan romulus split occur? surely not million of years ago

also there's an OST episode where Spock is assumed to be a romulan spy by a crew member because vulcans and romulans are identical physically, because at that time no humans had actually seen a romulan

>>85330077
That's exactly what Trek is about.

>>85330538
Aand dropped

>Orville has Cassidy Yates and I think bashir's dad

clearly the real trek here

>>85326521

Both look like absolute shit.

Orville could have been great, a Galaxy Quest style series would work, sadly the shit sad jokes we've seen in the trailers and how MacFarlane can't even deliver a single one-liner with any kind of timing means it's just going to be painful to watch.

>>85330564
This proves my point. You're willing to engage in mental gymnastics for the things you watched as a child, but not as an adult.

>>85330564
>we have higher rates of autism.
thats an assumption, today we're better at recognising it, you maybe as well same we have less demo possession than 2k years ago.

>But then we didn't move planets and experience completely different selection pressures than their ancestors like they did.
over 2000 years even if there is a huge section pressure in one group over another we still won't see much change, evolution takes millions of years not a few thousands

>>85330575
>because vulcans and romulans are identical physically
How do they know that if...
>because at that time no humans had actually seen a romulan
?

>>85330648
>mental gymnastics
You're just embarrassing yourself, I answered your question and you have no response.

>>85330671
Google "Darwin's finches"

>>85330598
yep got both, I mean wtf that dipshit is genuinely making a better trek then w/e std has going on, its not right it not fair, Fuuuucccck I need The Sisko to explain this shit

Waited so long for a new trek and it's fucking flare wars. Why couldn't they have made a post tng/ds9/voy show instead. Fucking retards.

Orville because Seth is an actual Star Trek Fan and it's clearly his atempt to make something similar

>>85330699
dude that faggot may be meming but he's right, a major plot point in balance of terror is that spock looks exactly like a romulan

>>85329234
>contrarianposting

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>>85330809
That and every Romulan shown in the TOS films looked just like Vulcans. Then Enterprise, a show that spent a multi-episode arc on why Klingons have head ridges showed their era Romulans have them too.

>>85326521
The Orville looks like trash but depressingly McFarlane seems to understand Trek better than the people behind STD

>>85330699
>>because vulcans and romulans are identical physically
>How do they know that if...
>>because at that time no humans had actually seen a romulan
>?
i'm talking about the OST episode where Romulans are first shown... obviously after we see tham no screen and they are indistinguishable from spock... hence the whole point of the episode......

>>85330699
how long does it take for a finch to mature? a year? thats 2000 generations. it takes ~20 years for a human probably even longer for a Vulcan. secondly when did the finch populations become segregated from each other? darwin didn't land on a island and then over the course of a few months see one species specialise into several

>>85330809
*similar
they always had differences, watch the episode where they steal the cloaking device for more obvious differences

>>85330869
no really? of course their the same, this is a dumb argument we are all agreeing

Stop with this lens flare crap!

Smearing light all over the screen doesn't make your visuals look modern.

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>>85326521
One has a Studio model, The other doesn't

>>85330935
you mean watch the enterprise incident yea? one of the most popular of all trek, come on, the ent romulan stuff was one of the only things they did that was ok, of course their the same speices this is a stupid argument

>>85330584
Braga wrote some pretty good TNG eps. If he can reign himself in a bit, he might actually be a positive for that show.

>>85330930
Did you look it up or did you make an assumption based on their name? Peter and Rosemary Grant spent 30 years studying them and tracked the changes in the size of their beaks due to changes in the availability of sources of foods over time. I was proving you wrong that physical changes take millions of years. Even though you're also ignoring that we're taller than our ancestors, another physical change that didn't take millions of years.

>>85331013
case closed, I am so fucking angry

>>85330929
I liked the aesthetics of the Orville trailer. It looks way more Star Trek than Discovery does.

It's a shame it's being marketed as a comedy, because I actually think McFarlane could do a pretty good straight sci-fi series.

>>85330940
Are you currently having a stroke?

neither

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>>85328478
>every line of a comedy should be funny
No, but try putting some comedy in the trailer if you're telling people it's supposed to be funny.

>new sci-fi comedy
>not funny

>>85331148
possibly

>>85329977
Bullshit, They are just ripping off Stargate with the aliens pretending to be gods, They are the gods that created the Klingons

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>>85329065
They look like ghoblins from those 80s B-movie horror films, dressed like court jesters.

>>85331183
well your image showed us what kind of "humor" you consider funny

>>85331123
>It's a shame it's being marketed as a comedy, because I actually think McFarlane could do a pretty good straight sci-fi series.
Honestly, if you don't think it's (or Seth is) funny, you can always treat it as a proper Star Trek, which was full of dry wit (dad humor groaners). It's not like there's a laugh track to prove you wrong

>>85331199
>They are the gods that created the Klingons
Klingons warriors killed them millenia ago, they were more trouble than they were worth.

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>>85331250
*puts marble in mouth thinking it's candy*
*spits it out while pretending it doesn't look retarded*
HAHAHAH pff---ahahaahhahahahAHAHAHA! man this new show looks sick dude lmao

>>85329102
>Not one of those blades faces your opponent.
How do you even use this thing? You probably stab yourself with it before you hit your enemy.

>>85331199
klingons killed their gods, those are suppose to be the followers of Molor, its still really dumb

>>85331077
and as i originally said
>*cough* white and black people *cough*
>both still recognisable as being human even though they are differences due to evolution and culture.

vulcans and romulans are still (in spite of small difference) recognisable as being closely related so much so that it was the major plot point in one of the episodes

and going all the way back to the start changing the design for one but not the other is dumb and goes against the internal history of the shows universe

>Even though you're also ignoring that we're taller than our ancestors
that's mostly nutrition, for a real world example patrick stewart is much shorter than his son partially because we grew up during rationing which stunted his growth

>>85331273
>Forced Organian Treaty somehow nullified by TOS era
>Never bothered by Q
>Disruptors kill "God" in one shot in Final Frontier
>Said to have killed their gods
Do Klingons have a yet unrevealed power over the mystical/metaphysical?

>>85331308
It clips onto your belt and you swing your hips while advancing on the enemy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzMlhfxubBA

>>85331351
your completely forgetting about or choosing to ignore the Hur'q, their is a reason klingons got warp travel so early

>>85331443
I'm forgetting about them, is there anything to suggest they're anything more than regular aliens?

>>85326643
I hate you.

>>85329578
So they are some kind of klingon neanderthals? The real klingons would probably just kick their asses and enslave them.

>>85327811
It's terrible. Hopefully they just couldn't put any actually humor in the trailer because it's for a "mature" audience.

>>85331476
nope not at all just an early warp capable species that invaded kronos and completely unintentionally gave klingons warp drive cause the klingons fucked their shit up

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taH pagh taHbe

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>>85331553
*smacks lips*

ayooo shakespear was a klingon, cracka

*smacks lips*

das rite

>>85329289
>A black silver manikin looks like a better alien then the new Klingons

>>85326521
Discovery looks downright garbage with all those female leads, even as a comedy Orville seems like a better star trek then discovery will ever be.

>>85329289
>>85331606
I honestly thought that was some sort of android for the new show

I watched the star trek discovery trailer. Whoever edited it needs to be fucking fired, I had no idea what was going on, like who is on what ship, which ships are fighting, crashing, etc. None of it made any sense.

>>85331661
This. Women (especially minority women) only exist to suck white men's cocks. If this series had any integrity, those whores would be sucking on a white captain's cock for the entire series whenever he's in the captain's chair.

>>85326521
Orville looks like light, fun entertainment. That's all I really expect of it, if it can achieve that, I'd consider it a success.

Sexually Treksmitted: Disease actually looks better than I thought. I agree with people it looks nothing like Star Trek, but it's visually distinctive and really, the writing is far, far more important to me than the visuals in Star Trek.

The high production value both reassures me and worries me, it suggests they've dedicated a lot of resources to producing the show, but at the same time, means if their stupid decision to limit it's domestic release to their own Literally Who online service causes it to falter, it'll increase pressure to cancel or make serious cuts.

Very excited to see Isaac's captain and the series seems to be leaning more towards a DS9 type footing than the Next Generation type exploration type, which I guess will work better with modern audiences.

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the federation needs men like me, to protect men like you

>>85331756
sometimes when you're confused, you're wise

>>85331756
but at least you learned that sometimes, when you're lost, you get found.

>>85330077
It looks to me like this trailer is mostly footage from the first episode, so they're kinda selling it as something other than it actually is, like if trailers for Deep Space Nine showed only the battle at Wolf 359 from the first few minutes of the first episode. This show starts with her on Michelle Yeoh's ship, something goes wrong and she gets the ship destroyed or something, which sets the ball rolling, and then she moves on to the Discovery.

>>85331840
Confusion isn't the opposite of wisdom you dildo.

>>85331828
>sonequa martin green stars as Michael Burnham
>michael
>raised by spocks dad
>first human to attend vulcan academy

holy shit could she be any more mary sue?

she is attractive at least, but jesus

>>85331848
Could this be the return of Vince posting?

>>85331756
That's why you don't redesign everything but assume everyone can still recognise them. Nobody would have been confused if it was Birds of Prey vs pretty much any silver starship with a saucer on it.

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>>85331848
>Sometimes down... is up.
*piano*

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just play star trek online, it's free, it has hundreds of ships and uniforms

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Why did they put holes in their ship?

>>85331948
no vince only posts when he can't, when a meme is dead thats when it lives, casper knew this

>>85331929
Literally every major character of Star Trek was a mary sue except Picard, Kirk, Janeway and Bones

>>85331948
sometimes dead memes come back to life.

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>>85331981
the u.s.s. vengeance has a giant V hole in the saucer too

>>85331975
oh fuck you, none of the good uniforms are free and you have to pay if you really want to compete

>>85326521
I just showed my wife this picture, keep in mind she's never watched a Star Trek movie ever or Orville, and she said she preferred the movies style to Orville's because, in her words the color tone is "depressing and melancholy, but distinct and unique" whereas Orville's changes make the movie look "bland and boring, like a tv commercial."

Kinda worried guys

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>>85331981
Hole technology anon, that way you can add tacticool Claymores to your ship.

>>85331553
Why didn't the Klingons use guns? They use swords and knives so it can't be about better weapons existing, and we know they have them from Shakespeare

>And is it I that drive thee from the sportive court, where thou wast shot at with fair eyes, to be the mark of smoky muskets?

>>85331981
>core breach imminent
>Captain what should we do?
>Seperate command module
>So long suckers

>>85332035
Imagine you want to visit ten forward after a hard day on the bridge.

>>85331954
good point, but even with the iconic designs, its still not clear who commands what ship, or what certain characters are doing, etc

>>85332106
site to site transport?

>>85332093
>why don't klingons use guns?
you answer your own question just by asking, their klingons

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>>85332041
no you don't, a bit of grind, casual play, claim the free items and seasonal events.

you can buy uniform packs and weapons on the exchange. im wearing the JJ-trek klingon uniform and facial piercings.

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>>85326521
>Ejected from the space ship during a battle and forced to watch helplessly
Where have I seen this before?

>>85332059
She's right though.

>>85332093
they did, they have disruptor pistols

>>85332106
the uss vengeance was made as a skeleton crew ship, it's a destroyer made for battle not recreation

>>85332099
But the Prometheus can separate into three different parts, she has no holes.

>>85332010
thats the difference tho, they were the main characters of their shows and they WEREN'T mary sues

but really? michael was raised by a vulcan that also just happened to be spocks father? come on

>>85332164
get fucked faggot, I have all my girls in tos casual uniforms, and all my guys in classic ds9 outfits, doesn't change that you need cash if your going to enter the big leagues stop bullshiting, unless your just very new, you'll learn, ground combat is one thing, true space combat is a whole different level

>>85332215
Disruptors aren't really guns though, they're energy weapons. Pistols would go much better as an aesthetic than them.

>>85332192
Basestars were built like wet paper. I guess if there were a lot of them AND they were more advanced and heavily armed than Battlestars then there'd just be no story.

>>85332238
Sarek is the only one that wasted time with humans , he was probably grooming her to be her next wife

>>85326521

Orville will probably be decent enough.

I'm sure it'll be no Galaxy Quest the series, though.

>>85332215
Then why it is so big and not tiny like the Defiant? They could made her a little more compact without this giant hole in the middle.

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>>85332010
>Janeway
>not a Sue
Physics itself bent over backwards for her antics.

>>85332265
no idea what you're talking about. i got the tos enterprise uniform for free around the anniversary time, the ds9 uniform is free, they give away free bridge officers, free ships, you can buy lockbox keys to get lobi, buy all the lobi uniforms on the exchange.

the only expensive items on the exchange are the rarest ships and rarest weapons, and they are not necessarily better. crtd4 agony phaser 300mil, normal phaser 80mil? learn to play dude tbqh

>>85332328
Wait, do you think Icheb is sexy?

>>85332322
size is more intimidating, more hull to take impact damage, more room to re-route systems, more backup systems, more room to carry torpedos, more phaser banks.

>>85332284
>Basestars were built like wet paper
The Galactica survived 2 wars (50+ years of service) before it was fubar though. And The Pegasus was commanded by idiots.

>>85331929
Unless her special power was being stronger than all her classmates at the Vulcan fighting academy, I don't think that's neccesarily Mary Sue. We'll see, Star Trek has always focused on exceptional individuals, if you want the Joe Pleb crew, watch the Orville. Which is one of the reasons I'm interested in it, it's a cool idea to see how a crew that isn't #1 in the Fleet, crewing the flagship, would deal with shit.

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>it's called std

>>85332192

Moore based that on Midway, where a downed pilot got to watch some of the battle in the water, which was a nice touch.

>>85332328
she was still just a normal woman doing her job who got to that position by hard work and personal achievements and not for plot reasons

>>85326521
I just showed this picture to my priest, keep in mind he's never been convicted of molestation or even been charged, and he said he prefers Disovery's style to Orville's because, in his words the color tone "is tight yet soft and supple like a small boys buttocks" whehreas Orville's changes make the movie look "rough and wrinkled, like an elderly 13 year old man's buttocks".

Kinda worried guys

>>85332405
The acronym is officially Star Trek DSC

>>85332328
How is she a Mary Sue? Sure the galaxy feared her, I doubt someone could stand between her and a cup of coffee, but she wasn't a Mary Sue

>>85332265
>you need cash if your going to enter the big leagues

I stay away from pvp, no sense in participating in the pay2win system

I just do the story and event missions with my dad and some friends

>>85332284
They're supercarriers to the Battlestar's battleships. If supercarriers were crewed by idiots who always sailed straight into brawling range of battleships.

>>85332332
yes you can get classic for free, which is why all my girls are outfitteed like that, you can't get say mirror for instance, also you must be new ot you joined a fleet way to early, believe me go up against a cube solo, you'll understand what I mean, when your btfo of every vaadwar in sight and dominate the dyson shpere without blinking get back to me, noob

>>85332445
>How is she a Mary Sue?
>blew up a borg unimatrix and transwarp network
>beat the undine / 8472 back in to fluidic space
>broke transwarp
>beat every hostile species in the delta quadrant
>rehabilitated a borg drone
>broke the prime directive and got away with it

>>85332438
They can try that all they like, it'll be remembered as STD. Producers dun fucked up.

I can only imagine they missed that because they old and call shit like genital warts 'Venerial Disease' or 'VD' rather than the 'STD' that millennials use.

>it's a battlecuck fan posts the same webm in every star trek thread because no one other than him gives a fuck about his mormon meme show

>>85332445
She was the definition of a Sue. She was always right even when she was wrong, there was even an episode where a condition prevents her and Coochy Moya from leaving a planet and the whole crew shits a brick and almost mutinies against Tuvok trying to get her back. So many Voyager episodes were written by Jeri Taylor, basically one of the trashiest, Mary Sue-iest romance novella screenwriters in the history of television.

>>85332448
>I just do the story and event missions
yea and then their done, what do you do next? I suggest fighting the borg, its a hard fucking slog tho

>>85332487
soloing cubes is easy, nooblet

>>85332497
>broke the prime directive and got away with it

Literally every captain from Kirk onwards.

>>85332510
Actually STD is outdated, it's STI now. Get with the times, gramps.

>>85332383
Basestars are the Cylon ships you dumb dumb.

>>85332557
I thought it's called SJW now?

>>85326521
I just showed my butler this picture, keep in mind he's never watched a Star Trek movie ever or Orville, and he said he preferred Orville's style to Disocoveries because, in his words the color tone is "darker than a London immigrant" whereas Orvilles changes make the movie look "bland and boring, like a Welsh castle".

>>85332497
>>blew up a borg unimatrix and transwarp network
With help from the future
>>beat the undine / 8472 back in to fluidic space
It was the doctor
>>broke transwarp
??
>>beat every hostile species in the delta quadrant
Year of Hell
>>rehabilitated a borg drone
She wasn't the first, Picard was a drone too
>>broke the prime directive and got away with it
When?

>>85332497
>>85332519
>basically shit that happened to every captain
>omg she is a mary sue because I hate women!

>>85332527
and how much did you pay for all those sweet anti-proton guns, and more importantly anti-energy draining shields? faggot

>>85332525
>what do you do next?
We start over as a Klingon or Romulan, or make some weird ass looking Aliens

>>85332593
Are you sure you thought that? The question mark makes you look uncertain.

>>85332595
Tell him he's fired.

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>>85331975
>Acknowledges JJ Trek
I'm sorry, but you do understand we have a strict taste code?

>>85332661
JJ Trek is best Trek.

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>>85332610
lmao are you trolling or what?

antiprotons huh? my kdf uses mkXII white phasers, my rom uses disruptors, and my fed uses retro phasers from the mission in drozana station.

>>85326521
Urgh, this is too much about violence and physical conflict.

>>85332709
"Prelude to Axanar" that everyone raves about was exactly about violence and conflict but everyone keeps losing their shit over how great it is and how it's in keeping with the spirit of Trek.

>>85332703
>mxii
lol. yea you joined a shitty fleet and really have no idea what the fuck is going to happen, be prepared to have your shit pushed in hard lil stobro, I'd suggest a concerted effort on the borg action list, your going to need it

>>85332703
oh and get some more unique items stat, it looks like you haven't even finished the campaign yet

>>85332617
that actually is a decent suggestion and way more reasonable then this wanker >>85332703 good idea, really you kids have no idea what happens on the higher levels

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>>85332804
stop talking.

>>85332872
now i know you're trolling. gj

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They fucked up. With this style they can't show the original Enterprise or any other Constitution class ship for nostalgia purpose. It would look so out of place.

>>85332973
Why the hell would they want to show ugly ass ships lie that, and why would they want an audience who is nostalgic over the original series?

This is the new, edgy, queer-positive and diverse Star Trek. Get comfy, or else you fucking bigot

>>85332973
I mean what is season 5 of ST:D going to look like?

would the get a Constitution class ship and wear the TOS uniforms

>>85332973
They probably only set it 10 years before Kirk because they didn't know that The Enterprise was around at that time too and assumed they could do what they want.

>>85333017
>This is the new, edgy, queer-positive and diverse Star Trek.
So DS9

>>85332963
dude really, your fucked, I would personally fuck you up but A: my sto comp is out right now B: you'd never agree to a duel, i'm not trolling I could honestly let one of my ships lose and let the computer handle it, that um 'build' is pathetic

>>85333058
DS9 was extraordinarily racist and sexist and transphobic (inb4 Dax, they treated her gender like a point of comedy)

>>85333047
There won't even be a season 2, Netflix paid for the entire production of the show with their multinational deal, neither they nor CBS are going to make enough back from it to justify shelling out the same amount of money again.

>>85333058
>7 years

>>85333068
u troling

>>85333035
post stats, its far from impossible its even easy, your action bar doesn't give me confidence tho

>>85333075
Nice try, those Sisko episodes where they keep bringing up his race and even dedicate an episode where he's a struggling black writer is more SJW than anything Discovery or any other Trek series could ever be.

>>85333075
how was it racist?

>>85333017
TOS featured a black girl in the main crew like it was no thing, Checkov was russian, you know the fellas that threatened the world with nukes up until 1989 or so?

>>85333148
fine, i'll find you somewhere, unless your fed in which case I guess not but your a coward just know that

>>85333202
vulcan #9 sol

>>85333180
>those Sisko episodes where they keep bringing up his race and even dedicate an episode where he's a struggling black writer
I can tell you haven't actually seen the show because you're referencing a single episode here.

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>AN DE LORD, OYE MEAN, DE PROPHETS SAID: DESE CARDIES HAD 'GENTLE' BRED OUTTA DEM A LONG TOIME AGO: KILL DEM ALL

>>85333242
it'll be about a month until I get my Pc running again, macs42 i'll find you

>>85326521
Seth's ex-wife is hot

I also like that they have non-humanoid ayy lmaos, even if they are played for jokes

>>85333246
>WAAAAAH DS9 WAS ACTUALLY REDPILLED AND ANTI NIGGERS!! AND MADE FUN OF FAGGOTS QUEER AND KEK MEME REDDIT!!
this is what retards like you believe

>>85326521
Discovery looks like a shitty action show with an ugly negress as main character and too much forced diversity in its cast.

The other one is made by Seth McFarlane.

I'll not be watching either of them.

It's almost like they made DSC shit on purpose to make people watch Orville

>>85333314
>ywn watch a show about an alternate ds9 universe where obrien runs the galactic version of the IRA

lame

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>>85333427
like it or not but seth is the average white male

>complain about forced diversity
>show that will focus on science and jokes
>MUH FAMILY GUY


you guys know that macfarlane is a master mind right?

he litterally hired black science man and made cosmos as a beta test for his passion project

the guy was ON star trek

family guy is just stupid fart jokes anyone who seriously hates it with passion is a loser redditor

it's not even something to get mad about

>>85331911
sometimes when you're literate, you're illiterate.

>>85333321
>suddenly doesn't feel like challenging me
dont worry, my vendor trash weapons are intimidating, i understand

>you're mad
>I'm Mudd

Wait, THAT Mudd?

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>>85328385
>It's ten years before TOS, that means Archer is long dead.

Not really. In Trek technology has extended human lifespan, 170 years isn't unheard of. One of quips to Enterprise in Jar Jar treks is the fact Scotty got his shit burning detail on that ice planet because he killed admiral Archers beagle in some transporter experiment. Probably not same beagle, but archer would be in his 140's during STD.

>>85333623
yes

>>85333720
the fuck

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when your ship is twice as long as someone elses

>>85333354
Wow, what an absurd overreaction to being proven wrong. Not unexpected though.

>>85333781
Size isn't everything, the Romulans learned that the hard way

>>85333781
that long ship has a nice, thick head

>>85333798
You didn't prove anyone wrong, you just accused people of being wrong. Now kill yourself and don't waste my time anymore. The only wrong person is the one saying that DS9 was racist, homophobic etc. because they are embarrassed of watching Trek

>>85333690
could it have been a different Archer?

was it confirmed Archer died single?

>>85333855
>All Anonymous posters are the same
All I've done in this chain is prove you haven't seen the show >>85333246 (You), I'm not the person you were originally responding to, though he's right too.

a lot of people give JJtrek a hard time, but its pretty kino. this d4x bird of prey is awesome, and these klingons are the best design yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0cFLb-JmaQ

>>85333937
>i-it wasn't me!
>really DS9 was redpilled and hated niggers, faggots etc.! that's why trektards hate it!

>>85333939
No.

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>>85333939
>these klingons are the best design yet

posting lies on the internet

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Thoughts?

>>85333576
cool. i already said, but give it a month literally don't have the pc, when im back, your fucked

>>85334094
>this is Chief Costume Designer Gowron
>someone opposed my new Klingon headpieces on the internet so I killed them all in battle and dishonored their descendants for seven generations
>CRISIS AVERTED!

>>85334195
Tell us something you enjoy and I'll show you what the youtube comments on videos of that are like.

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>>85334195
>Gianluca

>>85334241
Apocalypse Now

>>85326521
Literally both of those trailers are explosions and stupid one liners, only difference bring that the Orville one has a lower budget so it can't help but physically look like star trek (a budget limited show from decades ago that actually used tool boxes you buy at home Depot as "weapons lockers" because they didn't think anyone would notice) and its one liners are quips instead of dramatic. Why is everybody excited for one and not the other again?

>>85326809
>audio gags

actually there's a helluva lot more audio gags in that trailer. For example the banana-ray thingie actually appears to use the same sound effect as as a Star Trek TNG food replicator. And a couple of seconds into that sequence you can also hear the chirp of a TOS communicator.

>>85333540
Wisdom isn't the opposite of confusion no matter how hard you try to misdirect.

which one of you is shatner

>>85334867
might be me

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>>85333890
>could it have been a different Archer?

Nope. That has been confirmed by Jar Jar and writers that it was Jonathan Archer. Funny thing here is the fact that he became the president of the Federation after serving as ambassador to Andoria after the events of the show. Basically they should have probably referred to him as the president as that job is bit above flag officers like admirals and generals in chain of command. Generally former generals, admirals and field marshals who become presidents, prime ministers or something similar are usually referred with tittle of their higher political office. Ones that aren't are exceptions.

>was it confirmed Archer died single?

Only >implied.

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>>85326521
What's wrong this Shenzhou design again? Looks like a continuation of the NX class.

>>85329065
I agree with the klingons. Everyone that thinks every alien should continue looking like a human with paint and rubber hastily applied to their face is a stupid Luddite who just wants what they had when they were younger. I actually appreciate aliens I'm my Star trek show actually looking alien for once. That ba'atleth redesign is fucking horrible however, they better have a good explanation for why it looks so stupid>>85329065

>>85326521

Will watch both without paying for any

>>85333939
i didn't even realize they were klingons when watching the movie

>>85335048
The nacelles are under the saucer

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>>85335048
>What's wrong this Shenzhou design again? Looks like a continuation of the NX class.

It is Xbox huge. Way bigger than Constitution-class, it is closer to fucking Sovereign-class in size than the supposed federation flagship of its own time.

>>85328332
>>85328385
>>85328399

Archer became president of the Federation, why would he be an admiral at age 140?

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>>85336752
In case you honestly haven't figured it out yet: nobody involved with JJTrek knew or gave a shit about canon, they just heard 'Captain Archer' who was around before Kirk so he got a promotion and BOOM, instant nerd cred, hey, check me out, I know about Star Trek

>>85336752
>Archer became president of the Federation

bwuh?

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>>85337083

In second part of ENT episode "In a Mirror, Darkly" goatee universe Terran Empire gets its hands on prime-universe USS Defiant, that ship has personnel file about Archer.

>>85337816
huh

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>>85338064

How stupid are you? That is the canonical aftermath of ENT.

>>85338220
That was a huh of mild surprise, not a question or disagreement

I didn't know it and now I do, it's mildly interesting

>Nu-trek: The Show

What a fucking travesty

>using JJ trek space fights
>no point-to-point phasers

INTO LE FUCKING TRASH

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>>85338220
and this is the result of TOS

>>85338444
Oh my, Jean-Luc

You're looking....remarkably hench

>tfw space opera is dead
What happened? The late 90s early-mid 2000s had plenty of space opera shows.

>>85338740
Nu-"nerds" happened

In Discovery's time, Kirk is a Lieutenant serving with Gary Mitchell right?

Cameo maybe?

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I don't know why I even come here anymore - you guys are human trash.

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>>85332035
Yes but the Vengeance is supposed to be a perversion of Starfleet designs.

mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UMxWrwPeto


ST:D brings back the Temporal war as a major story arc

>>85338444
It looks like Data enhanced himself with Borg technology, I wonder If he can make nanoprobes and make a small collective using himself as a "queen"?

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>>85336338
This can't be right. Just compare the escape pods between it and the Enterprise-E. The Shenzhou looks pretty small in comparison.

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>bryan fuller
oh boy I can't wait for pic related

>>85326521
>implying i won't watch both

>>85331013
That's pretty awesome.
Looks like one of these shows was made by a Star Trek fan for Star Trek fans, and the other one is generic modern sci-fi with the name Star Trek slapped on.

>>85333170

The borg fire shield draining weapons that are also invisible inside of a certain range. If you're using a ship with fighters, you can kill borg cubes easily by kiting from a distance.

>>85326521
As far STD's go, I'd prefer not to have one.

>>85337816

>He made it to the very top of starfleet
>created the federation
>won a quadrant wide war
>Became president of said federation

That is an impressive resume.

>>85340916
>this is a mary sue resume

>>85341063

Archer has some of the worst failures in Trek history as well.

The origin of the Kobayashi Maru scenario was revealed in Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels' Star Trek: Enterprise novel Kobayashi Maru set in 2155. In it, the Kobayashi Maru – here a freighter carrying secret Starfleet equipment to set up a listening post near the soon-to-be-established Neutral Zone – was hit by a gravitic mine in the Gamma Hydra Sector. When Enterprise came to save the Kobayashi Maru, the Romulans attempted to use a telecapture device on Enterprise – thus allowing them to take control of the ship by remote – and bring in three D-5 class Klingon battle cruisers to ensure the elimination or capture of Enterprise. Jonathan Archer was faced with the decision of losing his ship and the survivors or sacrificing the survivors and ensuring the survival of Enterprise, thus the no-win scenario, as Archer had been told to protect the freighter at all costs. Systems begin to fail on Enterprise indicating the ship was about to be taken over and Archer reluctantly chose to retreat.**

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru_scenario

>>85326521

Out of those two choices? Honestly, Orville.

It at least looks like it has heart.

>>85341659
It's a well-funded self insert fan fiction

It has the benefit of having affection behind it, rather than pure greed

>>85338433
Why do they hate phaser beams in modern Trek?
Everything shoots little pew pews, even hand phasers

You could make the best looking show ever, but if your shit isn't called warp drive, tricorder, and subspace I ain't interested.

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>>85328753
>and takes place ten years before the start of Captain Kirk's five-year mission.

The fuck so i looked it up since this seems like total horseshit in the timeline. It just happens to take place at the same year Archer enterprise had it's last season.

>2154–2155 Enterprise season 4 (2004–2005)
>2265 "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (1965)

According to the nerds that assembled the wiki on startrek timeline It is just before the start of the Earth-Romulan War.

Give archer all the shit you want, but it felt more like the original series in tone to me. The TNG series and everything else after it followed their tone more or less.

>syfi + fantasy + stories about morality = original star trek.

>syfi + lazer guns + (((diversity))) + running scenes = star trek wars

>>85343769
What if Porthos was actually Q, guiding humanity on their first steps into the galactic community?

>>85343769
>It just happens to take place at the same year Archer enterprise had it's last season.
Anon...

>2155
>21
>2265
>22

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>>85343769
>>85344057
sorry anon but this is funny as fuck

>>85344057
ha I totally missed that. I now feel exceptionally retarded. I guess I fit in with you assholes.

>>85326521
People pretending Orville will be good just to say STD is bad is really quite sad. Why don't we all simply say they will both be shit.

>>85344453
Orville is Family Guy in space, what's not to like?

>>85327049
The knock-off Belanna Torrest looking hardly different at all, or the Krill looking like the Dominion footsoldiers almost exactly.

>>85330537
Goddamnit when will the slow singing female cover of an old song meme end?!

>>85346118
I bring it up with literally every trailer with my friends and no one seems to notice, I think normies actually like it and think it's original, or at least it doesn't bug them while it bugs me a lot. I'm so fucking sick of modern trailers constantly needing to be edited to some shitty cover or just an overplayed song.

>>85326521
I've ignored everything about discovery up until now but from the looks of it, my Chinese milfu gets a face full of explosion early on and the black girl becomes captain, maybe?


whatever the case i don't care, I was only mildly interested in this garbage because Yeoh, but if they kill her off early on I might as well skip it.

You just know Seth is going to fucking sing and dance

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>>85338246

In a Mirror, Darkly is one of the best episodes of all Trek shows. Fourth season of ENT is in my opinion the best season of Star Trek, format with two or three part episodes is good compromise between episodic show and continuing story show.

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>>85347682
They planned a two-parter with the cloud city from TOS and an episode with the evil cat aliens from the animated series for the fifth season. Enterprise would have been a lot of fun if they gadn't cancel it.