Star Trek: Discovery New Trailer

looks #litty

Looks great actually sci-fi. But they are playing it straight humor is gone
https://youtu.be/oWnYtyNKPsA
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>>85305198
>all that empty action

Doesn't look like Trek. Where's the technobabble, moral dilemmas, sensor anomalies?

>>85305198
Not very Trek like, but it actually looks like it has good production values so I'm actually looking forward to this
>those Klingons though

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>>85305198
>you're mad
>I'm Mudd

>>85305198
Star Trek: The Force Awakens

>>85306939
It's a trailer. Did you ever see the 90s Star Trek trailers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7preE2hojM

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faggotry confirmed

>>85307764
have fans ever had a good first reaction to new trek?
ds9
>there isnt even a ship!
voyager
>it's a fucking spoon!

>Jason Isaacs

Both he and Jack Davenport deserved to have a much better career out of their respective movie franchises than what they have nowadays.

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This one looks slightly better. I'm still not a fan of the aesthetic changes (the klingons look like pic related), but it looks like it has more political intrigue than it did before.

I hate the overly detailed Klingon armor

I hate the generic sci fi designs

I hate how the tech on the ship looks more modern than the tech on Voyager

I hate the uniforms

I hate that they have the Enterprise badge designs in a time where every post had a different badge

>>85305198
I'm so numb to big 'splosions but that didn't look too bad. I'll definitely try it. I've never seen a previous Star Trek show so I won't have a great frame of reference.

>>85307874
I was pretty hyped for Voyager

I don't think I even watched the entire first season. the Delta Quadran Klingons, I mean Kazon, might be the laziest enemies in Star Trek ever. ToS Romulans don't have shit on the Kazon.

>>85307874
They've complained since TNG, they've always found something to nitpick. In hindsight it sounds stupid because we know the shows are good, but now we're starting the hype cycle again so we get caught up in it.

>>85307930
He is even making his Zhao voice for the character if we go by the footage shown on the trailer. But yeah, I agree that they were both robbed from having a decent career on the big screen.

>>85306416
>This video is not available in your country
What did Netflix mean by this?

>>85305198
It's gonna really really suck. Buckle up because the threads will be epic.

>>85308159
It's CBS-exclusive in both Canada and US while being distributed by Netflix on the rest of the world. It means that they can afford a bigger budget by having Netflix co-producing than average network shit like Agents of SHIELD.

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so much for the cheesy light-hearted feel of the older series, we mass effect now this may turn out to be good science-fiction, but for me it will never be a star trek serie

>>85308386
Star Trek has moved past that point. If you want good ol' classic cheesy sci-fi with a shoestring budget then go for any SyFy channel originals or Doctor Who.

>>85308355
Established networks have to stop making their own shitty streaming platforms happen. Nobody cares about them and nobody ever will.

Honestly doesn't look too bad. I'm willing to reserve my judgment until the series comes out

it's just for lootcrate buyin' redditors now, it's got the trappings of star trek but no soul.

Does the Asian lady Captain have nice feet?

>>85308656
go home and confess your love for Miles Dr Bashir

Just the shitty pop music in the trailer makes it clear they've got the tone all wrong for Star Trek. This might be good sci-fi, but it's not good Star Trek.

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>>85308656

>>85308778
No one is going to make campy scify to appeal to the autists m8.

>>85306416
>I'd Love to Change the World starts playing


hahahaha

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She won't earn my respect until she murders a crewmember or orders a genocide.

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>>85308882

>>85308823
I agree, but then how can you justify making a new Star Trek series without making it obvious you're cynically interested in nothing more than making money off a great franchise's name, and one that should frankly be left alone.

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>>85308815

>>85308922
>when you try to click the discovery video and realize everyone is in the third world.

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How would an SJW Captain handle this situation?

>>85308914
Why do you think the Star Trek movies did so great in the box office while having subpar scriptwriting and directing? Because it wasn't too far up its ass and unwatchable for the normal movie goer who probably doesn't give a fuck about the show's 50 year-old lore. It is the same thing that happens to shows like Doctor Who. You either renew yourself and cater to what the audiences are demanding at the moment or you are cancelled.

>>85309009
They'd keep Tuvix alive because SJWs value the collective over the individual.

>>85309025
Yes, I clearly understand the business behind this new series, but that's just the problem. I'm not interested in seeing another Star Trek series if it doesn't look anything like Star Trek, and in fact I would rather they not try to resurrect the series. I may be wrong, but I doubt people who aren't already into Star Trek will be interested in following this series, while people who do like Star Trek may not be so keen on a series that looks more like Mass Effect than anything else. By trying to appeal to everyone, they may be appealing to no one.

>>85307874
>have fans ever had a good first reaction to new trek?

No. No one loves to hate what they love like Trek fans. Except maybe Star Wars fans.

>>85309243
Both franchises need to be left to die with dignity instead of being raped by greedy Hollywood executives.

>>85309243
Star Wars fanboys are more on the love side because they treat it like a religion and can barely think for themselves. Star Trek fans are devout but have more perspective and realizes that its just a show that can be as flawed as any other show. Star Wars fans have pretty much taken over the fat annoying nerd stereotype from trekkies.

>>85305198
So it's this or the tripfag thread? What happened to /trek/?

I don't like anything about this

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The problem is, as with all Star Trek series, Season 1 will be borderline unwatchable, someone will grow a beard and then the quality will start to get better.
By season 3 it will be good. Season 4 will be great.
This one won't make it that long.

I'm predicting a holodeck episode by episode 3. Because it's on that checklist of 'things people know about Star Trek'

>>85308815
What in the ever loving fuck?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but does this take place before the USS Kelvin encountered the Narada?

>>85309951
>I'm predicting a holodeck episode by episode 3

if that happens, we riot.

this is a prequel to ToS, remember.

>>85310007
so wait, is this the Abramsverse or is it real Star Trek?

>>85310036
ENT had two holodeck episodes and a borg ep and a ferengi ep

>>85310036
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexpected_(Star_Trek:_Enterprise)

>>85310076
It's Abramsverse.

>>85310076
we don't know yet for sure. Early on, they said it was in the prime timeline

but from the recent trailers, it blatantly looks like it's in the Kelvin timeline.

>>85305198
Looks like a bunch of grimdark garbage. I'm gonna go watch Ménage à Troi to cleanse my brain.

>>85310076

figure it out yourself, the guys making this don't know

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>>85309025
>Why do you think the Star Trek movies did so great in the box office
The most recent installment killed the franchise all over again

>>85310131
It actually can't be. Paramount and Viacom split and Paramount gets the movie franchise (Abramsverse) while Viacom gets the TV franchise (Roddenberry's if they want it). What Discovery CAN'T do is tap the rebootiverse.

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>>85305198
>It' gonna suck, isn't?

Probably. I'm positively surprised by Harry Mudd... everything else is disappointing.

>>85305198

>tons of fx and action
>20th-21st century meme soundtrack

looks like more fucking jj trek...

>>85310300
>What Discovery CAN'T do is tap the rebootiverse.
Judging by the space combat scenes, it looks to me like they are using the Abramsverse.

>>85310300
They can do their own reboot though. Make a new rebootiverse. Shit but they will

>>85310343

He was a Q, right?

>>85307540
>it ain't me starts playing

>>85310343
Do trek fans actually like Mudd? Are people glad to see him back?

>>85310249

wow Undiscovered Country got shafted..

>>85305198
looks orange and blue.

>>85310400
The Klingons are the proof of this. Prime continuity's take is that the shoepolish Greeks we saw in TOS were genetically engineered to fool us and TNG's horseshoe crab foreheads were the real deal.

> what about TMP
We don't talk about that.

>>85310300

I'm not sure if that's still entirely the case

for the longest time STO couldn't use JJverse but now they can and do..

>>85310403
No you arse, if he were a god he wouldn't get hoist on his own petard so often.
>>85310409
>Do trek fans actually like Mudd? Are people glad to see him back?
You have the crew of the Federation's flagship repeatedly being owned by a con artist. Hell yes.

>>85305198
>https://streamable.com/drqpi
>>85306416

Here is the trailer for US residents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7IMj7WFyE

>>85310300
I just realized something, it doesn't really matter which timeline this takes place in, if it's set before the TOS, since that time period is the same in both timelines. The timelines themselves were only fractured during and after Kelvin was attacked by the Narada.

Remember on DS:9 when black captain raped alternate universe Dax.

>>85305198
I just can't bear more of that shitty trailer music.
It's like an entire genre of pop music has evolved around the question "Can I slap it onto any trailer, no matter the movie's/shows's genre?" by now.

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nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope

>>85310403
>He was a Q, right?

Just another con-artist... pretty good at that.

>>85310409
>Do trek fans actually like Mudd?

Yes.

>Are people glad to see him bac

It is 50/50 situation he can be good or bad, if it goes bad it will be horribly bad.

Honestly as someone who got into trek in '86 with TOS reruns... this is probably the day trek dies.

The post-DS9/VOY prime universe is officially dead isn't it?

FUCK I miss the 90s.

>>85310758

>michael

??

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How the fuck do I get into DS9, please help! I watched like the first couple episodes and it just doesn't feel good like the original series and tng felt

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Michelle Yeoh

>>85310869
>tfw no post VOY Trek dealing with the galactic upheaval caused by the destruction of Romulus.

>>85310922
it's not as good. it's only good for the Dominion War pew pew space battles and starship destruction porn

>>85310409
Mudd was a fun character in that he was funny but not a mere comic relief. He was believable as a shady guy but not unlikeable.

>>85310758
> number one

isn't that what Picard called his first officer? Why are they pretending like thats some kind of deep cut back to TOS? I fucking hate holywood kikes

>>85310922
Watch the Season 3 finale and Season 4 premiere. That's when things heat up.

>>85310950
nigger, ds9 has amazing character arcs.

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>>85310869

>action, lense flares, and more action
>ywn have another Quark's bar tier comfy dialoge scene

>>85310758
They're trying so fucking hard and it's cringeworthy.

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>>85310758
>referred to as "number one"

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>>85310604
this is such a better trailer than the abortion they first released. effects look fucking great too


F

>>85310957

they never canonically confirmed Picard invented the concept

but it still feels like they're shitting all over my childhood

>>85310647
Also, ignore everything I said earlier because last year Viacom bought out Paramount.
http://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2016/09/29/cbs-viacom-merger-mean-star-trek

The dope who wrote this made an interesting point: Pine and Quinto only have one more movie in their contract and given how shit Beyond was, 4's storyline could easily end with unbooting the Kelvin timeline altogether. The Abrams tards get a sendoff and the rest of us get to pretend it never happened.

>>85310346
It's just stock music. Haven't you noticed that ALL trailers employ this sort of soundtrack these days. It's mainly because the score for any movie or TV show is usually completed very late into the production run.

It still sucks that they can't just stick with instrumentals these days.

>>85310997
>literal nigger captain
>they even acknowledge this in universe, "as far as they're concerned, we'll always be niggers."
>oh wait he's not even a captain
>executive officers at other space stations are admirals
>also he's space Jesus to the Bajorans

>>85311097

If you say so.. I'm almost expecting them to play sabotage AGAIN right in the show..

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>>85311066
You absolute casual.

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>There will never be a post-DS9/Voyager series
>We will never see fucking Rom running the Ferengi Alliance
>We will never see Captain Nog
>We will never see anything else
>All we will ever see is prequels

Why live

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>>85310922

DS9 is the breaking point of Trek. It abandons the ideals Trek had and replaces those with somewhat more realistic ones. In the end DS9 is B5 set in Star Trek universe with mostly more bland characters. It is the worst Trek and the best Trek at same time. Supporting characters are better than main characters in DS9, they are ones that carry the show.

>>85311139
>>executive officers at other space stations are admirals

the admirals based at starbases commanded a sector of ships, not the station..

>>85311078
Yeah, these days, they they like to pretend TNG (and everything post-TNG) never happened or "wasn't a big thing"...

>>85310647
>timelines themselves were only fractured during and after Kelvin was attacked by the Narada.

that was when Kirk was born.

Discovery is set only a decade before the original series. Kirk is presumably already in Starfleet.

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>>85311139
>executive officers at other space stations are admirals

No. Say hello to Commander Quinteros of Starbase 74.

If anything I would rather they don't try and adhere to the original timeline and start their own shit otherwise this series is going to be very limited as to what they can do.

While a lot of you babies seem to shit your pants, I'm willing to give this a shot, the promo material seems a lot like those laughable "previously on Star Trek: The Next Generation" edits from the show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwDAiAKhsCs

>>85311174
It just feels so bad to me and doesn't feel like star trek at all. I know people shit on voyager, but is it at least more like star trek?

>>85311139
>>85311174
>It abandons the ideals Trek had and replaces those with somewhat more realistic ones.
Even TNG tweaked that somewhat.

> B5 set in Star Trek universe
You know how I know you never saw "Casablanca"?

Also damn son, the character actors carry EVERY genre show, are you ten or something?

>>85311147
As a matter of fact it was only just announced who would be responsible for the show's soundtrack (Jeff Russo) and that they've only just begun to put together the show's title sequence.

Song confirmed:

IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD

>>85311320
Why were they watching Short Circuit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCdtRnu9ggc

>>85311284
it would help if they didn't involve SPOCK'S FUCKING FATHER ACTING AS A FOSTER PARENT TO A HUMAN IN THE SHOW WHAT THE FUCK

>>85311363
> IT'S BEEN A LONNNG ROAD
I no longer fear hell
bring it on

DS9posters are like a fucking virus. Seriously, why are they in this thread? Makes zero fucking sense but they're here promoting DS9 values anyway. It's fucking annoying.

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>>85311396
Yeah, we need to keep the Spock family canon intact

>>85311449
I asked about DS9, so that was my fault

>>85311388
It was movie night for the officers

>>85311396
> hurrr durr they ruined muh canon

lmao you little faggot twinks need to get a life

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>>85308815

>>85311326
Janeway is by far the shittiest captain.

Voyager abuses the reset button the worst of any series, and destroys suspension of disbelief.

Neelix is basically Jar Jar Binx on a Federation starship.

even with all those faults, the stories are still more like TNG than DS9 ever was.

>>85311387

see:
>>85311097
>>85310717

>>85311396
Hey remember when we first met Worf and thought he was a badass who managed to aspire to join the Federation, and not the child of some Earth Jews who had to be raised sort of Klingon?
Remember when you thought Dr. Bashir was a natural born genius and not a genetically tampered with actual retard?

>>85311329
TNG upheld the Starfleet ideals better than the Original Series imo.

Kirk shits all over the Prime Directive with reckless abandon.

>>85310950
DS9 had better characters.

>>85311546
>Janeway is by far the shittiest captain.
"You're going to be ST's first female captain. Give her the gravitas and gra–"
"FUCK THAT I'LL PLAY HILLARY IN FULL MENOPAUSE"
how can you not love Kate Mulgrew

Future asian female captain, speaks engrish.

Picard was worst captain

>>85311474
>the objectively worst Star Trek movie did this
>that makes it okay

ur a faget

also, sorry Bill, but it's true. Final Frontier is a stinker.

>>85311643
>"FUCK THAT I'LL PLAY HILLARY IN FULL MENOPAUSE"

it's not her fault as much as the writing.

>muh coffee nebula

>>85310949
I would rather watch 7 seasons of political negotiations on reunification then this shit.

>>85311154
>Homage of an homage or multiple homages

>>85311620
Roddenberry knew that in 1963 no one would tolerate a show where the captain behaved like Picard. So yes, Kirk's a maverick whenever it suits him and he can get away with it.

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>>85306416
based Jason Isaacs. Shame he won't be the main focus.

>>85311546
>Janeway is by far the shittiest captain.

>brings back weapons and info to fight the borg
>brings back quantum slip drive
>brings back untold info on the delta quadrant
>meets hundreds of friendly species and others that aren't
>prevents a Q civil war, that is destroying stars

>>85311174
DS9 is a deconstruction of Trek ideals. It's a perfect contrast to the shiny optimism of TNG. It strived to show how comfy utopian federation principles would hold together when pushed to the edge. There's a great scene in Past Tense where Sisko and Bashir talk about this in the context of the episode plot but almost as almost analogous to the whole series.

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Nah, this isn't my Trek. It's for JatJay audience.

>>85311657
>speaks engrish

yeah that's pretty bad.

you'd figure the Universal Translator would be able to clean that up for her.

>>85305198
>It' gonna suck, isn't?

Oh most definitely.

>>85309960
>What in the ever loving fuck?
Remember to wear proper foot wear and good shoes
Once you fuck up your feet there is no way to fix it

This show will be good if /tv/ dislikes it

>>85311756
hi Mr. Shatner, how's the family?

>>85311806
/tv/ Trek threads are now only ever just dumb DS9 promotion/apologism. I refuse to participate in them.

>>85311728
>it's not her fault as much as the writing.
it was never her fault, she took the scripts she was given and interpreted Janeway's incredibly shitty decision making as a lunatic. I think the writers were hoping to channel Kirk's recklessness and went overboard, so she rolled with it.

>>85311818
Remember this motherfucker actively shitposts on /tv/ like a native. I wouldn't put it past him but no, I'm not Bill.

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>>85311806
Yeah, it's gonna be so good that it will probably be the last Trek tv show ever created.

>>85311863
pls no smuggy

>>85311863

i've predicted this too many times before desu, starting with VOY

>>85311906
"Oh man, this attempt to cash in on a popular show. I give it 2 seasons."
--me discussing something called "Frasier"

Not watching any new trek until they get out of the ToS era and do some new shit.

anyone notice how bad the writing has gotten on these type of shows. it's all like james cameron epic dialogue; and not even good cameron, avatar level cameron.

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I wonder how would Star Wars fanbase react if they rebooted the franchise, shat on canon and changed how the ships, races, jedi and lightsabers look in the new installment.

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>>85312129
>Franchises based on movies

>>85312129

Isn't that what TFA was?

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>>85305198
consider yourself lucky, at least effort and money is being put into it. Look what Stargate fans have to look forward too in their new "series"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaEUhfMUKQ

>>85312129
That was TFA

>>85305198
Why do they keep jerking off the TOS era now?

>>85312040
>tfw hoped they would adapt the Destiny books into a new series with Riker as captain

>>85312304
Same reason they're jerking off the Star Wars OT now, they can make money off of people's nostalgia.

>>85312304
Because it's the safest approach of course.

>>85312216
As a proud member of /leftypol/ I am looking forward to this.

>>85312308
I don't think Frakes would commit to acting in a series, much less being the lead. he seems happy directing.

Are there any Star Trek oldfags on this board?
Tell me what it was like before canon existed.

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>>85312362
>two writers who have 1 imdb writing credit between them
>a director whose experience is a couple of substandard webshorts
>about a character so irrelevant she died offscreen in SG1
>set in a time before we opened the Stargate
>using a video release format that no one uses anymore
>on a streaming platform that no one will pay for
>already announced for this yes without any cast yet
Yeah it's going to suck,
Why can't we have Carter flying around in her ship seeing what's on planets that are in the ancient database that they can't connect too? God knows it would make a better show and even a better Star Trek than this?

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>>85312544
Read this if you're really interested. Just started reading and it's pretty fascinating.

>>85312304
>We want the nutrek fans that don't even know enterprise train wreck already happened.

>>85311838
exactly. the entire premise of DS9 is to promote judaism via the ferengi. I will NOT let fellow white men fall for this.

>>85312362
looks like she was still in the SC film school as late as 2015 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5521959/

>>85312579
>Why can't we have Carter flying around in her ship
> wait, what if we made a stargate series without the actual stargate and people had to go back to using spacecraft

>>85312355

This, hollywood really isn't all that smart or creative

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>>85310604
Why's her hair all nasty now?

>>85308882

Sisko did nothing wrong.

>>85312798
exploring planets outside the gate network is still a better idea than what they are doing, besides Carter is a bad-ass without being a try hard, she could be the main character of whatever show they want,
https://youtu.be/n9pgAs__yvo?t=136

>>85312894
>Uh, Sonequa, we just got the focus group results back and they want more natural hair. You see any other hairstyle on a Strong Black Woman™ is a form of cultural oppression and the surveys suggest that the 18-24 demographic won't respond well to that. We don't want any bad write-ups on the blogosphere, after all. We're going to have to reshoot all your scenes.

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>>85313065
>mfw all of this is probably true

>>85311930
I get where you're coming from but surely you can see the difference.

>>85312129
Was this sarcasm?

>>85312648
>$30 for two kindle books
>$33 for two hardcover books
I wonder who is behind this.

>>85312894
That's natural nigger hair anon

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>>85313470

>>85311326
If you haven't realized yet it's that no one cares about voyager. Enterprise has more cred to trek fans and it has a fuckin bon jovi intro. The only ones that matter are TOS TNG and DS9. This will never change. There's no way to produce a decent series now since Obama was elected. We would have to wait for the writers and their cabal to die off so at least a generation or two to be sure.

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So, this is Tuvok's wife. Why exactly they needed her to be black as well? Black male vulcans are attracted to black female vulcans? What was the message here?

>>85312894
>>85313065
>>85313209
In the scenes with her hair like this she's also wearing a science uniform instead of the command one she wears elsewhere in the trailer, she's also on a different ship. There's probably a year or two time jump in her story after the first few episodes.

>>85313549
It's not pure nigger hair as she's a mix blood or half breed or mulatto or quadroon. Many of the coons are these days.

>>85312118
most of the time, they're felt like catchy one liners instead of a proper dialogue
Probably the reason why I couldn't get into many of recent series

>tfw no more comfy Trek
I think this one guy put it pretty well:
>Discovery's production design, however, is overall a chaotic blend of styles that don't fit together. Communicator, tricorder, phasers: TOS retro style. Starfleet bridges: Abramsverse. Discovery exterior: based on a sketch discarded for good reasons 40 years ago. Shenzhou exterior: 24th century. Shenzhou transporter: steampunk. Klingon ship: Gothic cathedral. Klingon costumes and props: ridiculously overdesigned. Klingon species: anything but Klingon.
>The production design is good in the details (even the Klingon design has its merits although I hate it) but overall arbitrary. It is like many people with different agendas are working on the show, and just don't talk to each other. Or like people who boldly try to defy the principle that you can't have everything at once. I miss the old days when Matt Jefferies or Herman Zimmerman were in charge of the Art Department, who gave their shows a signature look, a feeling that it all belongs together.

>>85313719
90s audiences could handle interspecies fucking but not interracial fucking.

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Miss me yet?

>>85314222
If we were making an alignment chart of Trek creatives, where would he be?

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>>85314150
1-800-come-on-now

>>85308882
This is why DS9 is the best.

>>85314294
Lawful Evil == Rick Berman
Neutral Evil == Maurice Hurley
Chaotic Evil == Leonard Maizlish

>>85311416
I cant tell if you love or hate ENTs opening theme.

I'm glad the Dark Eldar finally got on TV. Shame that it's on Star Trek.

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FUCK THE PROPHETS, FUCK BAJORANS AND FUCK YOU

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IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII CAN'T STAND IT, I KNOW YOU PLANNED IT, I'MMA SET IT STRAIGHT THIS WATERGATE

>>85309951

TOS season 1 was good, ENT got worse than season 1 before it became watchable, Andromeda's first season is the only good one.

>>85310007

After, but they keep saying that this is the prime timeline where that doesn't happen at all.

>>85310957

It was also what the first officer was called in the original pilot.

>>85315214

that's only semi cannon tho since it was scrapped and retooled

>>85311784
It's a shit deconstruction with huge plot holes and a dumb-as-shit messiah plot.

HEY

I'M SORRY IT'S JUST

JEN?

YES?

JENNIFER?

I'M SORRY DID WE MEET LAST NIGHT AT GEORGE'S PARTY

>>85315409
>huge plot holes
Such as?

>>85314096
>Discovery exterior: based on a sketch discarded for good reasons 40 years ago

Star Trek just wants to prove to Star Wars that they're not the only ones who resort to mining discarded Ralph McQuarrie concept art for ideas

>>85315578

Everything to do with the prophets

Forgetting about cloaking because the Dominion found the Defiant

Sisko being given any sort of command in his state

That stupid teleporting rifle

Sisko and his shitty crew being allowed to stay in control of DS9 when it suddenly becomes important

Federation just completely bending over for the Bajorans

DS9, the shitty mining station that has various traps left behind by the Cardassians, not getting replaced with something better

Defiant greatly varying in power all the fucking time

>>85315950
Can you explain how these are plot holes?

Like, I can tell you right now why Sisko stays in command of DS9: The Bajorans demand it.

>>85307540
I'm glad to see Harry Mudd desu. If that was the only callback I would've been happy.

>>85308386
>You will never be a dorky extra for a day on the Star Trek TNG set getting to dress up as a borg and have your picture taken with Picard

I bet that was rad as fuck.

>>85308448
>Star Trek has moved past that point.

Star Trek moved past that point with the movies but then for TNG is came back.

In conclusion: Go fuck yourself.

>>85314562
hate

>>85314096
what I hate most about the discovery design is that it's almost indistinguishable from the NX Enterprise, which was based on the Akira class from the First Contact era

>>85316151
That's actually the USS Shenzhou which looks like an Akira/NX.

The USS Discovery is a circle and triangle.

>>85314518
Lawful good = Ronald Moore
Neutral good = Michael Piller
Chaotic good = Ira Steven Behr

>>85316198
Switch Piller and Moore. BSG showed me that he is not a man who is bound by laws.

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>>85305198

>only available on Netflix through Europe
>have to literally pay on top of what I already pay to watch it here in 'murrica

Oh, that's cute CBS. You wanted it to fail. Thanks for telling me ahead of time.

>>85316296
>only available on Netflix through Europe
And Latin America, cabron.

>>85316198
>Lawful good
>not Gene

NINETY SEVEN PERCENT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM ARE NOT BLACK

Literally THREE PERCENT of the British population is black

THREE PERCENT


SO WHY IS THERE A SMUG APE WITH AN ENGLISH ACCENT IN EVERY HOLLYWOOD FILM?!?!?!?!?

>>85316332

I'd think the domestic audience of Star Trek is going to matter a lot more in the US than Europe and especially Latin America. I hate to talk shit but I highly doubt a lot of people actually pay for Netflix down there and don't straight pirate that shit.

My point is that they are making a HUGE mistake with this decision when they could have just aired it on CBS here in the US. You know. That network that's a fucking national network.

>>85316413
no one cares about your island chauncey
is this set in brongolia? no?
ninety percent of the world doesn't fucking say "let me bin that on the way to the chemist before I knock you up" either

>>85316377
Gene is True Neutral.

For all the good you think he's done, don't forget
>rewriting scripts without permission or notification
>screwing over Alexander Courage
>cheating on his first wife
>cheating on his second wife
>vetoing every interesting idea in early TNG
>leaking Spock's death to the media
>leaking the Enterprise's destruction to the media
>casting couching every actress
And more I'm forgetting.

>>85308134
>He is even making his Zhao voice for the character
MY PENIS CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT, ANONYMOUSE

>>85316536
>>casting couching every actress
I thought this was supposed to be a list of his sins, not an inventory of his alpha male achievements

>>85316536
>>casting couching every actress
Literally nothing wrong

>>85316413
because at least the accent makes them sound smarter

>>85316659
It's true, England has at least another 3 years left before its accents are no longer associated with class or intellect, milk it "whilst" you can

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>>85311001
>might I trouble you for a glass of kanar
>here, help yourself, it's on the house
>well how uncharacteristically generous of you
>I'm in an uncharacteristic mood…

I enjoyed that scene so much, when it was over I had a fleeting thought whether that was the pinnacle of Trek. It was.

>Action Trek
>Good

Jesus Christ /tv/, have some fucking dignity. This looks just as bad as the 3 JJ Trek movies.

>>85316707
It's true, you saw enough to adequately gauge the entire first season

>>85316536
>Roddenberry insisted on a utopian world, which hamstrung the show's writers, who struggled to create drama in a 23rd century without greed, jealousy, violence, or any other hook that breeds story arcs.

and look what happened when you drift away from that vision. you get grimdark shit like DS9.

>>85316756
who are you quoting you strawmanning retard

>>85316707

I'm not even going to bother either way. I live in the US. I pay for cable. I'm not paying on top of that for something that should be airing on CBS. Period. Anyone who pays extra for this when anyone outside the US who already pays for Netflix is a moron. Quality of content be damned.

>>85316749
>It's true, you saw enough to adequately gauge the entire first season
Did you watch the fucking trailer? It's practically the exact same style as JJ Trek
>shaky cam
>lens flare
>muh action
>pop music
>le evil villain
>starship hallways with smoke blowing all over the place

Stop being a fucking tard.

>>85316778
>for something that should be airing on CBS. Period.
Well no because then everyone would have to be 60 years old at least

>>85316756
>In the future, humanity has evolved beyond the concept of mourning. If the mother of a 12-year-old child dies, that child will not be sad, because even children do not mourn their dead moms.
Shut up, Gene.

>>85316802
>le
go back to your subreddit

>>85316756
>you get grimdark shit like DS9.
You think DS9 was grimdark? All it was was typical Trek in a time of desperate war.

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>>85316819

Is there a point you're trying to make because you didn't make it. It seems your point was that only old people watch CBS.

Well, I'm not paying money on top of money on top of money to be another age group you fucking moron. Air it on the shit I pay for or fuck off.

>>85316842
>I'm making up sources here, lookit me go!

>>85316846
>le "i said 'reddit', so i win"

>>85316869
relax chum I'm agreeing with you

>>85316881
Read the behind-the-scenes stories for the episode "The Bonding".

Gene believed that a 12-year-old boy should not be sad after his mom died.

>>85305198
Abrams is a hack, and I don't know how many franchises he has to destroy before people realize that. I know he technically doesn't have anything to do with this series, but it's clear they're taking major influence from his ST movies.

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>>85316947

Sorry then. I just didn't get what you were going for there. It's just infuriating. One of the few shows I'd probably watch and these fucks want me to pay on top for it.

But no, we need more of "The Good Wife" and "Big Bang Theory" and our soon to be new hit "Young Sheldon."

>>85305198
So is the captain not the main character?

>>85317069
Yes. Just like early TNG, where Riker was supposed to be the main character, and Picard was supposed to be the doddering old fool who always surrenders.

>>85316064

They should not have been allowed to make such demands, especially not in season 1.

But seriously, everything in DS9 comes down to the damn Prophets. Sisko being born? Prophets mind controlled his mother. Sisko is literally a rape baby. Wormhole being discovered? Prophets showing themselves. Dukat turning from interesting villain to shit? EVIL Prophets. Federation not getting stomped all over by the Dominion? Prophets. Sisko being in command of DS9 after being shown to be unstable right in the first episode? Prophets (through their followers). And why? I don't fucking know, they can't even claim boredom because they don't understand linear time. They are a lamer, more intrusive version of the Q, who only got punched by cmdr Aggro because he wasn't being mysterious enough.

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>"Let me tell you a story to clear the air in this holodeck: My great Uncle Rammstein Von Brautwurst was in the 82nd Waffen-SS division, he being the brother to his sister Frauline Frau-Frau who eventually immigrated here to Canada to raise my eventual family of ancestors. Anyways, Uncle Rammstein one day while sipping his favorite Wine from Normandy noticed one of the Jews was of a darker persuasion than usual. As he looked up close, he saw that he was indeed the bastard child of a negro and a Jewish woman. Long story short, seeing how as the designs of all the tech and uniforms and so forth do not match the previous films or TV shows, I will tell this new Star Trek show, just as my great uncle said to the black jew 'Go sit in the back of the oven!' and for that reason I'm out"

>>85306416
>your mad
>i'm mudd
get fucked you FAGGOTS

>>85317177
they are of bajor, whateva that meant

>>85317177
>They should not have been allowed to make such demands, especially not in season 1.
Their system holds the wormhole, one of the most important locations in the entire galaxy.

Of course Starfleet and the Federation are going to respect the Bajoran demands. What do you want them to do, conquer Bajor?

You can say "yes" as a joke, but putting aside the jokes and looking at this rationally, I hope you can realize that you've been approaching this situation completely irrationally and looking for problems where none exist.

Sisko is in command for a good reason.

Anyone hear anything about ABC's counter space opera shit based in the Citadel and Anderson, before Shepherd?

>>85316953
Gene believed Majel and Nichelle owed him a polyamorous relationship.

>>85317464
well I mean he's not wrong

>>85317464
He was still married to Eileen when TOS aired. All the sex he had with Majel and Nichelle was cheating behind his wife's back.

>>85308882
>le miserable
So is that really reddit or what

Its true title is Star Trek: Diversity. Let's get real here. It will choke on its own bullshit.

>>85305198
one tiny thing I kinda liked, that vulcan, good casting choice, that dude makes a great vulcan

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>>85310568
>TOS Enterprise
>Flagship
no. it was just one of 12 constitution class starships sent out on a five year mission of exploration, it was only notable for being the one of those 12 that actually completed its full 5 years.

>>85317515
>behind his wifes back
lol, no anon she knew and likely got involved

>>85305198
>>85305198
>>85305198

Oh my god, they used the same trailer track as the Seagal v Wilson trailer. Top kek, CBS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ_iMJdDSzY

>>85317631
At first I thought this was porn, but then I saw the asian guy.

>>85317350

Bajoran independence is secured solely by the Federation and they know it. They could have told them that they can keep DS9 and Sisko around but will also construct a massive station that would make Earth Space Dock blush. The Bajorans would, of course, have a say in the operations of said station because it is in their space. Heck, why not put some fuckhuge warp drive on the thing just so it can piss off if the Bajorans decide to go solo? And yes, they obviously worry about another occupation, but the Federation has a long track record of not doing that shit and could just take the system if they wanted to.

inb4 "but muh values" when DS9 is all about doing much worse things.

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>>85317645
She didn't know.

Herb Solow and Rob Justman had to distract her whenever she visited the set while Gene was busy cheating on her.

Source: Herb Solow and Rob Justman

>>85317733
oh come on, she knew about majel, everyone knew about majel

>>85317718
>inb4 "but muh values"
You're saying that DS9 doesn't respect Star Trek's values, but then you're criticizing DS9 when it completely respects Star Trek's values (by having the Federation completely respect the Bajoran government's wishes).

Pick one.

>>85317760
It's possible to live in denial, like Majel did after she married Gene and he continued to cheat on her. She just pretended to not notice and didn't talk to their son about it until decades later.

>>85317799
>trying to have a logical argument with 7yrs
wew lad

>>85317846
thats kinda what I meant, i'm sure when it really comes down to it she knew and was merely pretending, it was the 60s

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>>85317733
I can't wait to read the articles that when mentioning the Number One reference repeat the claim that Gene was prevented from having a female first officer for the series by sexist executives rather than the real reason that they balked at him literally casting his mistress (which he did anyway as a reoccurring).

>>85317969
Why are Lurch and Barbarella playing with a telephone switchboard?

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>>85316842
>>85316881
>>85316953
"In the twenty-fourth century, no one grieves. Death is accepted as part of life." - Gene Roddenberry

>>85317799

Except when doing things like building warships and blowing up foreign officials, of course. That's fine. Using a bit of political leverage? Heresy!

>>85318022
That's Vampirella and the Bond villain Jaws, pleb.

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Daily reminder that you can never please "those" people

>>85318093
>one single heart
Wow, Anon, the Twittersphere is reeeaaaaallllllly burning up with this sentiment.

>>85316693
the pinnacle is garak and quark talking about the federation, and it almost got cut

>>85318142

Where did I say it was, anon?

>>85318164
I dunno, Anon, but it looks to me like, overall, "those" people were pleased.

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>>85318046
But in Encounter at Farpoint, an episode literally co-written by Gene, Picard talks about how he thinks Crusher being around him will cause her grief by reminding her of her dead husband. Hardly indicative of a future without grief. More indicative that no one could follow Gene's stupid fucking ideas about the future, even Gene himself

>>85318206

Literally half of their 40 minute panel was reaffirming diversity shit.

>>85318206

I think you just overestimate how many of "those" people are interested in Star Trek

>>85318245
How is that relevant to this discussion?

>>85318248
I think you just overestimate how many of "those" people can never be pleased.

>>85318293

It happens every time someone tries to pander to them, so I don't think so.

>>85317631
lol shit, is that Grant from Mythbusters playing Sulu?

>>85317692
Kirk is Vic Mangina, Scotty is Jimmy Doohan's son, Chapel was written out for that redhead, and the guy playing Spock channels Nimoy better than Quinto.

Also their Uhura is hot and does her own singing like Nichols did.

>>85318385
It absolutely is.

>>85318293
>How is that relevant to this discussion?

They ARE these people.

>>85318309
And yet this time, based on your screencap, it looks like the vast majority of them were pleased.

You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Don't you have anything better to do with your time than manufacture outrage over a tweet that isn't even popular?

>>85318411
But we're only talking about whether or not they can ever be pleased. >>85318093 says that they can never be pleased, but their own screenshot indicates otherwise curly_colly is a lone contrarian.

>>85318093
>1000 years
what a fuckwit, still this is exactly what they should have done, a late 24th or early 25th century ship gets hurled a 1000 years in the future and finds the federation no longer exists and the galaxy is chaos, yes they should have just remade andromeda, really

>>85318480
>name is Andromeda
>isn't about the Andromeda galaxy
I'm triggered.

>>85318468

All it indicates is that curly_colly has no followers.

>>85318480
>gets hurled a 1000 years in the future and finds the federation no longer exists and everyone's gay trans muslims with vitiligo

>>85318524
the ships name is andromeda anon, but then you knew that

>>85318607
have you seen the show? thats kinda what happens, and space hercules sets out to fix the galaxy, good shit

>>85311856
I actually liked it, you never knew when she was going to do something horrible just to shave a few years off the trip, I wish they did more with that concept rather then hitting the reset button so much.

Didn't know star trek had so many fans that were black females

>>85318412

You're making a lot of bad assumptions here. If you don't think this same tweet could get 10k likes on the right twitter profile, you haven't spent much time on twitter.

>>85318604
After a quick check, I can tell you that curly_colly has 32 followers. The number of followers isn't important though, what's important is that I haven't seen real evidence that those people can never be pleased. The simple truth is that the narrative is more important than the facts to posters like >>85318093. They WANT this narrative of never-pleased people to be true, so they will stoop to using 1-heart tweets as justification for pushing that narrative. How shameful.

>>85318743
>You're making a lot of bad assumptions here.
You're using one single unpopular tweet to pass judgment on the entirety of "those" people. You don't think that this is a bad assumption?

>>85318743
>>85318799
would you faggots stop talking about twitter, normie fucks why are either of you ever their?

>>85318799
>You're using one single unpopular tweet to pass judgment on the entirety of "those" people. You don't think that this is a bad assumption?

It would be if I was basing it on one tweet, yeah.

>>85318877
What's the point of living if you can't go to Twitter, take a screencap of something stupid, and then post it on 4chan to manufacture outrage?

>>85318920
just as long as you never lose sight of the fact that your cancer and I hate you, you've even got a twitter and fb account don't you?

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>>85318799
>>85318920

>>85319114
you first /pol/yp

>>85308882
The Maquis were the dumbest fucking concept in the entire franchise.
>Live in Utopian society
>Decide that isn't good enough for you, leave to become a space colonist
>Of all the places you could pick, settle in an unstable border region
>War eventually breaks out there, big surprise
>In the peace agreement that ends the war some of your colonies end up changing hands, as do some of theirs
>Instead of just packing up and leaving to settle somewhere else, throw a bitch fit
>Start waging a guerrilla war against the new rightful owners of the territory
>Try dragging the Federation back into a fight, even though it would result in millions of people dying on both sides
>Somehow think you are in the right even remotely

>>85319114
>it's a good thing when people go to Twitter, take a screencap of something stupid, and then post it on 4chan to manufacture outrage
The absolute state of /tv/ right now.

>>85319443
b-but muh fresh tomatos

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>>85319443
Sisko made the right choice.

>>85319506
nah, he should've done a sick barrel roll

>>85319506
No, he took too long to put an end to their stupidity.

>>85305198

Looks fine.

My racist side dislikes the sheboon, but that's pure aesthetics.

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>During the panel, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that her character, First Officer Michael Burnham, is actually the adoptive daughter of Sarek and Amanda—that’s right, Spock’s parents. According to Martin-Green, Sarek and Amanda took Burnham in after her parents were killed and she was raised on Vulcan. Sarek is also the one who committed her to Captain Philippa Georgiou, which explains their connection and relationship.

>This essentially means that Michael Burnham is Spock’s adoptive sister, which raises a lot of questions: The main one is how we went an entire series, several movies, and two universes without Spock ever mentioning he had a sister. It seems unlike Spock to completely ignore someone who seemed to be a major part of his life—especially one who came into his life after such tragedy.

>At the Star Trek: Discovery panel, producer Alex Kurtzman promised there actually is a really good explanation for how Michael disappeared out of Spock’s life so completely, which will keep Trek’s canon in tact. Unfortunately, they’re keeping that explanation to themselves.

>“We’re aware [of the situation],” Kurtzman said during the panel. “You’ll see where it’s going, but we are staying consistent with canon.”

Spock never mentioned his sister. his STEP sister.

I'm pretty sure I see where this is going.

>>85319595
>looks fine
>no i'm mudd
sure thing shill

>>85319655
yea and sarek never thought that was relevant, fucking hell this pisses me of more and more everyday

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>"You rock!"
>"No, I'm Ruk."

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>"You're hardcore!"
>"No, I'm just Kor."

HOW IS HER NAME MICHAEL THATS A GUYS NAME

>>85319766
It's a Bryan Fuller thing.

Like Chuck in Pushing Daisies.
Like George in Dead Like Me.
Like Freddie in Hannibal.

>>85319658

Eh, I don't care about le references.

Star Trek is one big reference series after TOS.

Aside, what happened to the ugly triangle ship?

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>>85319728
>>85319759
>you king?
>no Kang

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>"You must be drinkin'."
>"No, I'm just Lincoln."

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>>85319443
>>Try dragging the Federation back into a fight, even though it would result in millions of people dying

Wrong. Starfleet would have curb stomped the cardies. They couldn't even defend their own territory against one ship. One ship. They had to beg Picard for help. Imagine if Picard sided with Maxwell. Two ships could have smashed their way to Cardassia Prime. Maxwell was right about absolutely everything.

"You're a fool, Picard. History will look at you and say, 'This man is a fool'."

>>85319818
its just really fucking ugly, and its not about references that guy is suppose to be Mudd, and he looks about 20yrs older then Kirks Mudd, these people know nothing about star trek and don't care

>>85319838
You are forgetting that the Federation is incompetent at fighting wars. The Federation and Cardassians already fought not long prior, and casualties were heavy on both sides.

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>>85319818

it's in there. obviously the Akira-looking one with the Chinese captain gets fucked up by the Klingons in the pilot and the main character gets transferred over to the Discovery because reasons. (stepdad's pulling strings?)

>>85319827
WE

>>85319798
george is the only one out of those that works

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>>85319714

>and she was a good friend.

>>85319766

probably a tranny. it's (CURRENT STARDATE), you know.

>>85319928
Regardless of whether or not it "works", it's still a thing that he does and not worth typing in ALL CAPS.

>>85319919
(((WUZ)))

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>>85319969
KANG

>>85319962
that wasn't me and I know, really i've seen all of those and George is the only one that seemed to fit the character

threadly reminder on Mudd, third reich mike predicted all of this

>>85305198
looks pretty good to me, shitty music aside

>>85320211
It looks like a lot budget Battlestar Galactica that is surrounding itself with as many forced elements to tie it to Star Trek as possible.
>Our main character is the secret adopted sister of Spock!
>We brought Mudd back!

>>85309951
>andromeda

I wonder how that holds up today.
I could go for a little space hercules right now.

>>85320325
>how that holds up today
JESUS CURE MY BACK PAIN

>>85320325
its good, if you don't mind shitty cgi and 4:3 ratio its pretty great actually, just remember
NEVER EVER WATCH s5

>>85320430
seasons 1-4 it seemed like it was cured, returned with a vengeance s5 though

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>All the shitty reboots and rehashes of everything these days driving up the price of the original property's merchandise because everyone wants the old shit bad now that the new shit has reminded them how good the old shit is

>>85320469
>its good, if you don't mind shitty cgi and 4:3 ratio
I'm currently watching S5 of Voy. I can handle anything.

>>85320559
>ds9 bluray remaster confirmed
5d chess desu

>>85320630
stop now watch andromeda instead, unless you like seeing borg spheres being btfo by a shitty lobster commanded by a menopausal psychopath instead

>>85320630
Andromeda was Voyager, except good until they went Farscape wannabes