Kino

The most brilliantly technical movie ever made. You'll never see scenes like that with an airtight script.

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>Nolan and Zimmer discussing Dunkirk soundtrack

Nolan: Hans, hows the music coming along?
Zimmer: I am not sure what direction to take. Any recommendations, Chris?
Nolan: Remember how you made use of the ticking clock in Interstellar?
Zimmer: Yea?
Nolan: I loved that.
Zimmer: Say no more.

>proceeds with 120 minutes of clock ticking

I liked it, but something that always annoys me about Nolan films is the sound mixing for dialogue is shit. It's hard to make out what people are saying sometimes, and the same thing happened in TDKR and Interstellar

>>85277090
tell me about it. the accents combined with the music made some scenes impossible to understand.

lucky for us, the dialogue wasn't really important whatsoever.

>>85276796
Any scene with Tom Hardy was pure kino

>>85277083

Haha. Though I really liked the literal ticking clock being in the background of almost every scene. Added to the intensity and feeling of hopelessness the film was supposed to convey.

I didn't like it very much. Great cinematography and production value but honestly I was pretty bored throughout. Probably my least favorite Nolan movie out of the ones I've seen. And it was stupid that the only death that they made a big deal about was some kid being pushed down some stairs. LOL.

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>>85277083
Does it really have that in the background the whole time? No memeing here...that shit would probably ruin it for me. Hopefully they have a no clock edition special DVD

>>85277399
Yeah its there about 90% of the time. The more intense shit gets the louder the clock ticking. The most intense moments all you can hear is the clock and sound effects. Times ticking we gotta get our boys out of here!

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Only good scenes: the first of running through the streets, the first beach scene with the bomber coming, the fist air force scene, and the first ship drowning scene. Everything else was repetitive and boring.

>ywn risk your own bodyweight versus a rickety ass plank while carrying your bro on a stretcher
When all the men were cheering after they made it across it felt so good and I knew at that moment the rest of the movie was going to be great

>>85277090
I think he's doing it on purpose too. he loves silent films, so he's trying to devalue dialogue in his own films and make the viewer focus on the visuals instead. which is funny for a guy who likes to shove unnecessary exposition in a lot of his other films.

is it just me or did this film have almost no theme. it seems to subsist on cinematic visuals and clever plotting. but it felt more like a theme park ride (where the goal is thrill) than a film.

>>85277731
It was the retelling of an historical event. Doesn't really need a theme

>>85277731
the film doesn't need a theme as it is based on literal events. it is a fictitious depiction of brohood or broing out.

the main theme is the white man's burden. women and non-whites will never fully appreciate this movie.

>>85277836
>>85277884
dramatized true events still need a theme. it's the job of the filmmaker to find the emotional meaning in the story. dunkirk had almost no emotional underpinning.

As an aviation autist, I appreciated the level of realism showed in the dogfighting scenes.
[spoilers]Never thought I'd ever say that a Nolan plane scene was unironically good[/spoiler]

>>85277968
not to be mean but are you non-white or have a vagina? because the movie was pretty emotional throughout

>>85277489

They grabbed some dying bloke because it would get them on the evacuation ships. Not because they were bros.

>>85277999
>the movie was pretty emotional throughout
only if people cheering while manipulative music plays in the background counts as emotional

>>85278004
nah it was because they were bros. everyone was bros, except for the hull scene where they discovered the guy was french (obviously)

>>85278051
also i don't consider tension an emotion. the movie had tension. but it didn't have a point of view.

>>85277731
survival(stranded soldiers), patriotism(civillian ships). sacrifice(Tom Hardy), redemption(Murphy), protecting a broken man from a truth(Peter).

>>85278051
>manipulative music
what does this even mean lol? music was amazing m8 much better than interstellar or inception

>>85277999
the most emotional scene was some kid who wasn't even in the fucking war getting pushed down some stairs lmfao

>>85277334
This. The kid's death didn't feel like it had any weight to it either since it just happened so nonchalantly. It was beautiful, but yeah, pretty boring. Also no story = no themes so that was a huge disappointment. It's just watching a well filmed war, not like a movie. And while that is cool, it's not super ibteresting after an hour.

>>85278081
>but it didn't have a point of view.
you don't understand the white man's burden. thankfully Nolan does

>>85276796
>tfw you realize the old man at the end who says "surviving is enough" was a WWI vet blinded by mustard gas

>>85277968
Don't bother. This is the movie everyone who makes those "this historical event NEEDS a movie" thread have wanted for years, just high budget recreations of war scenes with nothing more to them.

Nolan can gargle my balls, but the theater near me is playing it in 70mm, should i go?

That was worth it for the Spitfire porn alone.

>>85278081
It had three points of view, did you even watch it?

>>85277477
You forgot every scene in the planes and any scene on the civilian boat. Other than that and the opening scene and some of the bombing runs, the movie was boring as hell.

>>85278117
>he's dead mate
>well, be careful with him
honestly made me kek. was waiting for the laugh track... but it never came.

>>85277731
I felt the same way. It's a pretty film but you walk away with nothing to chew on other than the pretty pictures.

>>85278072
Those 2 guys were cowards trying anything they could to get out faster than everyone else. You were meant to dislike them.

Im not sure how this movie got made. Theres no plot but worse theres no characters.

Its like a reenactment from american tv shows like john walsh or w/e.

Its got emotion but its not a story its an event. Even blade runner had an arc and character development. Maybe its too subtle for americans.

Maybe its like tea with no milk or sugar.

I still liked it, but its at the bottom of Nolan's list.

>>85278106
that wasn't the most emotional scene. the most emotional scene was
1) carrying bro on stretcher
2) sinking hull and bro releasing the hatch door at last moment
3) boats showing up at the end
4) Captain staying behind to help french bros
5) tom hardy being captured
I don't care for the kid that much, he knew the risks

>>85278206
they were german spies trying to get into britain.

>>85278169
Are you American? That line was pure British stiff upper lip.

>>85278100
What redemption did Murphy have? I wanted them to throw that faggot overboard.

>>85278206
nah bro you totally misunderstood that bit

>>85278155
Fuck yeah man

The gunshots and planes feel real nigga

>>85278137
I didn't understand that part. The soldier said "That man couldn't even look at us." Were they worried they would return home disgraced by defeat? Was that why the newspaper at the end felt significant?

This movie is sound porn. Calling it now for winning the sound editing oscar

>>85278272

Yes.

>>85278155
Absolutely. I would buy tickets to see just the plane scenes in 70mm.

>>85278243
The tail gunner fire from the He-111 was so fucking visceral. Honestly made me flinch when the rounds were contacting.

>>85278275

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>>85278272
yes though there was almost no setup for them feeling that way.

>>85278230
he wanted them to turn back to leave the soldiers to their fate, but sucked it up when it came time to help the men and was remorseful about what he did to George by asking Peter how he's doing, indicating he is concerned about the boy's well-being.

>>85278214
Your last 3 bullets were the only emotional scenes. Emotional is even a strong word.

>>85278325
O MY RUBBER TICK

>>85278342
When he asked Peter if he was okay I wanted Peter to attack him or something. He totally sacrificed his honor by killing that boy. He was not a hero, he was a coward. And, to me, he came nowhere close to redemption.

>>85278344
shut up man emotions are subjective anyways
I am beginning to think you are a non-white.. maybe a woman or even a mooslim.

>>85278325
*muffled stuka horn in the distance*

>>85278160
The plane scenes were all good, but repetitive. Civilian boat scenes were ok, but not really interesting.

>>85278325
Worst part of the movie. I noticed it about 3/4ths of the way through and it bothered me so much. Terrible soundtrack. Honestly just not a very good movie. It's good for dogfight porn, that's really it.

>>85278329
not looking gloomy and morose the entire time wasn't a setup? they look absolutely devastated that they're running away like cowards.

the newspaper wasn't necessary though, yeah.

>>85278275
I remember during that one intense bombing run, it got so intense people were covering their ears. I did feel like that was pretty awesome. The planes sounded scary as fuck from the ground. And the gunshots sounded so good.

>>85278344

I don't know why all the 4chan autists think that "they were carrying their bro on a stretcher". The wounded were being evacuated first, and the only way to get on a boat was to have a wounded person. They were trying to jump the queue.

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This movie was Terrible, the sound of the stukas was brilliant, but every other aspect of this movie was done terribly. Very repetitive and unnecessary, god awful dog fights, and a lack of investment in anything that was going on. People praise this for its realism. but it was one of the most unrealistic war movies from a technical standpoint i have ever seen.

>>85278375
Peter understood that the truth would've driven Murphy's character deeper into the darkness. and he didn't intend to kill George anyway. George asked Dawson if he was a coward, and Dawson told him that Murphy was just a very broken man. his redemption came when he put his own issues aside to help the people get on the boat. it's not a big redemption, but he fixed himself a little bit.

>>85278403
for me, the heart of the movie was all on the civilian boat. That captain was such a manly man. Reminded me of my Grandpa. Wise, noble, courageous. He was easily the best character. Even if he was one of the only characters.

>>85278420
they looked like they all desperately wanted to leave the beach and survive. none of them displayed any desire to take back their position or stay and fight, for example. indeed, earlier in the film the officers established that not getting enough of the army off the beach was the undesirable ending. having the film end with the soldiers suddenly acting like leaving was the "negative" outcome came out of nowhere. i guess they were trying to shoe-horn in "le realism" or something.

>>85277477
>Everything else was repetitive and boring.
God damn, thank you. Glad to see there is still some sanity in this world.

People keep saying they liked it, but left the theater feeling like I just wasted my time.

Why are there so many people that are easily entertained? Makes me wonder.

>>85278460
after we got out of this movie my dad suggested that I watch Das Boot, the German version. you are wrong about Dunkirk though

>>85278445
>The planes sounded scary as fuck from the ground
yeah, especially when you hear the growl getting louder and louder as it approaches.

>>85278305
You mean the same fucking repetitive plane scenes over and over again through out the entire movie?

Fuck you are pretty easily entertained aren't you? Thanks for setting that bar low for everyone.

Saw it in 70mm yesterday and thought it was great. Ive only clapped at the end of two movies, this and TDKR. Going to see it again in XD next Wednesday

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>>85277334
I agree it was boring. There was no story and no character development.

It was just a bunch of beady eyed anglos running away from Hitler who willing allowed them to retreat.

Also why did Cillian Murphy play two roles? one as the shell shocked goofball and the row boat captain?

>>85278456
This. They were cowards. This is shown many many times throughout the movie.

>>85278523
No he isn not wrong at all. But your Dad has is sounds cool, he probably needed to watch a real war movie to get that sour taste of Duncuck out of his mouth.

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>>85276796
>all straight white males
>no niggers
>no STRONK females
>germans weren't portrayed as psychopathic big bad evil villain racists
>no over the top unrealistic fight scenes
>great cinematography and soundtrack

It was a great movie in the age of garbage in Hollywood. Nolan is forever /myguy/.

Gibson, that murdering french faggot, definitely wanted to get on the boat.

>drowns
>completely covered in shadow as he struggles in the water during his final moments

he probably choked the Brit soldier he looted his uniform off with a chain.

>>85277518
>devalue dialogue
>Big Guy 4u
>I'm See Eye Eh
He doesn't need to do silent films to do that.

It’s routine to describe battle films as “anti-war,” still, that misnomer doesn’t describe Dunkirk — the apolitical Nolan transforms the “anti-war” genre into his patented “life is cheap” genre. Each sequence that details the brutal tragedy of warfare is punishing yet remote. Men caught in numerous doom-laden catastrophes are presented IMAX-size for no other reason than shock, discomfort, and the awe of action-addicted filmgoers — adolescents who are temperamentally distanced from how those experiences shaped modern Western culture.

Nolan exploits technology for effect, not to enrich history. Unlike Ang Lee’s very fine Iraq War drama, Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk, which used 3-D to explore the depths of brotherhood and the war’s emotional complexities, Nolan’s movie flaunts empty violence. Duty is depicted as futile, and despite parroting Churchill’s spiritual motivation against darkness, Nolan typically evokes nihilism without any follow-through. Dunkirk feels dispassionate; it caters to pampered Boomers who never fought for or believed in a war or military service. Note the civilian armada approaching their countrymen: Each face is expressionless. Is this because Nolan rejects emotion, or does patriotic fervor embarrass him?

tl;dr: if you think this is good then you're a tasteless /r/movies drone that needs to go home or back to /v/eddit

>>85278460
> god awful dog fights

wot

The only thing that bugged me was that Tom Hardy with a dead engine flying on the deck somehow retains enough speed to climb up and knock out the stuka and spend the next hour gliding. They spent a lot of time on the deck

>>85278582
There was one nigger French soldier early on shown as part of the group trying to get on the first ship.

>>85278595
to be fair, I think Nolan stopped giving a fuck at that point and was burned out from Batman. that movie was pretty low effort like Talia's embarrassing death acting.

>>85278547
Were those not the best parts? It's not like there were characters to care about, so becoming a wwii fighter pilot was my favorite part, yeah.

>>85278581
my dad is a good man and is secretly redpilled as all holy hell but couldn't drop them all over because he works in internal auditing of the kikes, catching them at their own game.

>>85278638
no wonder the frenchies weren't allowed on kek.

KEK!

>>85278607
Well since armond said so...

>>85278638
I know nogs fought in Europe during WW2 but he had literally 10 seconds of screentime and none were ever seen again.

>>85278638
For a split second

>>85278582
preach sempai

>>85278673
Nolan is a pseudo intellectual hack with no depth, vision or understanding of his content or work. He exists to enforce spectacle and peddle popcorn to the unwashed masses who lap up calamity and human carnage but his films have no moral message or deep philosophical insight.

Nolan is the epitome of reddit. He is memes.
He does not in anyway stand up to the likes of Bresson, Godard, Noe or Malick

>>85278648
best part?
wtf anon, how easily entertained are you?
Could you not see it was that every dogfight was filmed the same way every time?

>Plane zips by
>camera shows pilot face
>behind shot of plane getting behind other plane read to attack
>show pilot face again
>show plane in sights
>show pilot face
>Machine guns
>Plane hit by bullets
>SAME FUCKING WHITE PUFF OF SMOKE TRAIL EVERY TIME
>Rinse and repeat for every plane fight

Fuck anon, do you even notice these things?
You need to start thinking about what you are seeing on the screen instead of just blindly sitting there like a lowbrow knuckle dragger.

>>85277477

Yeah agree. Only good scenes were the first scene and every scene after that.

Best Nolan film ever. The historical accuracy forced him to finally play to his strengths rather than writing some sophomoric muh philosophy bullshit.

Could have lived with less of the score, but all in all great. The first Nolan kino.

>>85278582
Speak for yourself faggot
>white people will like anything as long as there's only """"white people""""" even if it's shit
Good goy

>>85277303
>>85277399
I don't know how anyone could like something so obvious and annoying. Like, "It's a clock, get it? You will." Fuck you, Nolan, I understand time and the need for urgency, that sound does not add to the film. What a bad decision.

>>85278160
george ruined every boat scene

>>85278230

None at all. He was shell shocked. Bravo for not making everyone out to have an amazing redemption arc or any of that nonsense.

>>85278734
Yeah, it got a little old by the end, but it was still the best part of the movie. Along with the scenes on the civilian ship. Why are you so mad?

>>85278272

Dweebs. The man was blind. Presumably from the first world war. They thought they had let everyone down, but didn't realize the magnificence of the British character as magnified by Churchill's statesmanship, because they were young men with more balls than sense.

None of the pilots new how to lead their shots properly, or take them when necessary. Any scene with the German bomber was Awful because it took place like 100 ft off the ground. none of the flak gunners fired a single shot. And the end scene when the spitfire ran out of gas and some how span around to take out a vertical diving stuka and then landed, Almost made me stand up and leave.

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>>85278566

that was during a different time;

u not notice it jumps from night, day?

i cant remeber but i figured people wud be talking about that more, howd it go again it was

the mole : 1 week
the sea : 1 day
the air: 1 hour or sum shit unno

that ment how long those parts of the battle were going on for the timeline of the movie, they start to intertwine hence in hardys scene you can see the cuckd ship that harry and the hurr durr GERMAN SPY statement was made on before you actually see them get cuckd

>>85278792
Yeah, I agree. I was glad I could hate him until the end. Fuck that PTSD excuse, he was directly responsible for the death of a child due to extreme negligence. That is manslaughter. He killed an innocent boy. All his heroics in the war are instantly nullified. I actually liked that. I liked he didn't get redeemed. He's just going home broken as fuck.

>>85278777
Lel. This is why symbolism is ghey. It's elementary. 2deep4u but not actually deep.

>>85278809
Paid money to see this in theaters. I don't like wasting my time and money on crap films. I fucking hate to say this, but Pearl Harbor had better Plane scenes.

>>85278841
In defence of the German bomber scenes, im guessing you arent talking about the divebombers, the He-111 was a mid level bomber and would have had to fly low near dunkirk to be able to see the ships due to fog and cloud cover. But yeah the vertical climb with a dead engine was retarded

>>85278841
I was a little confused when the german plane drifted through his crosshairs multiple times and then he took his shots when the plane was directly in his sights so he missed. I was like "I could shoot this thing fucking better." Of course, I couldn't, but you know.

Well thanks guys, I'm watching the movie tomorrow with low standards now after reading these posts hehe

I'm guessing it's a David lynch meets WWII bs right?

>>85278927
David Lynch is a fucking hack who could never hope to make a movie as good as Dunkirk

>>85278868
A ticking clock is hardly even symbolism, or deep. That's why the soundtrack is so bad. It would be just as bad if they had people whispering under their breath "hurry" over and over for the whole movie.

>>85278841
>none of the flak gunners fired a single shot.
>None of the pilots new how to lead their shots properly

I'm glad someone else noticed how lackluster this was. I think one time I whispered to myself, "What the fuck are they doing?"

Fucking TORA TORA TORA had better plane scenes, and that movie is almost 50 years old.

>>85278927
Going in with low expectations and being pleasantly surprised is way better than going in expacting kino and being let down. You should be thanking us.

>>85278927
Honestly anon, if you have any taste in movies, you are immediately going to notice the repetitiveness and misplaced direction the film takes. You geniuenly won't feel ANYTHING for anyone. There is hardly any character development.

>>85278994
Thank you, Some one has some sense. Lots of small details were missed in this movie. I wanted to like it but i just couldn't.

>>85278994
>Ww2 pilots in their first air combat dont know how to dogfight
Weird

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>The sounds of a man slowly being crushed to death against the pier by the giant sinking ship

Like goddamn Nolan

>>85278854
Yeah, but how those timelines matched up was really confusing. It seemed like the whole movie took place during the plane run, so what part of the movie took place during the other 13 days and 23 hours?

>>85279089
Whats weird, the moment you climb into a plan you know everything didn't you know this

So did that dude ever get to shit. He tried twice. Are you telling me he held it in the whole time. This movie is unwatchable.

>>85279063
You're not alone, I wanted to like it as well, but couldn't for all the reasons listed in above posts.

>>85279125
His story takes place over a week, I'm sure he got a chance somewhere.

Did that frog end up drowning. I sort of lost concentration temporarily

>>85279125
I like to think that the second time he just went on with it with the guy watching him. Didn't wipe or anything.

>>85279149
Yes.

anyone else notice the SICK sounds of the waves hitting the mole when they were trying to get on the ship at the start? sounded so intense like a bomb going off each time.

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War for the Planet of the Apes was better. I liked this cutie a lot. Not in a fucking creepy way.

>>85279214
Sound design was 10/10.

lol the second i stepped out of the theater i knew everyone would hate this movie and be confused as fuck.

it was kino of the highest order. nolan's movies suck usually but this was brilliant. i actually thought there was too MUCH dialogue. the fact the studio greenlit this kind of movie with a big budget is fucking incredible but i guess that's all the leeway nolan gets

You literally have to be an autistic contrarian faggot pathetically looking for 4chan good boy points to not like this film.

>late to see dunkirk in IMAX
>come in to the theater during the first scene where theyre being shot at
>literally can't think this is fucking loud
>constant sound of loud bullets
>wheres the fucking row its dark can't see the letters that indicate each row
>they're on the floor
>seat is in the middle of the crowded theater
>rush to it stepping on peoples toes AHH THE BULLETS

thanks for the ptsd Nolan

My local theater was full and half applauded after the ending. Lots and lots of families with 8-12 year olds too. Honestly baffled.

>>85279297
I think you have a high opinion of yourself, like you are some kind of highbrow critic, but in reality, you are easily entertained. You would snack on a turd and call it a salad.

This movie wasn't bad, but for you to call it:
>kino of the highest order
Just shows how irredeemable your tastes/understandings are. You think you are watching something "deep" but you are really just getting strung along like a cuck.

But hey, you know what is brilliant, clearly you've got it all figured out.

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>>85278325
2deep4u faggots

>>85279397
Jesus Christ, my theater was quite,everyone was ashamed of the time they had just wasted.

Too much dialogue

Nolan's dialogue is always so hamfisted and unrealistic like everything is always calm and collected. The scene with the Dutchman inside the small boat was intense because you could tell the actors were tapping into their instinct of survival to carry a strong performance.

>>85279229
I don't know how Dunkirk is but Ape Escape 3 was not a good movie by any means, how it's being praised I'll never know. The first two were great but this one is a literal pile of thrown gorilla shit.

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"He's dead, mate"

>>85279541
And not a single fuck was given because character development was almost nonexistent.

A literal masterpiece. Almost half the theater clapped when the credits started rolling

>Tom Hardy's engine stops completely
>is still able to stay in the air for 15 minutes and even come back to shoot down a stuka going for the men on the beach

>>85279512
It wasn't as good as the first two, but it was a good ending to the trilogy. I liked it better than Dunkirk, that was my only point.

>>85279541
"b-b-be careful with him then!"

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>mfw hearing the Jericho Trumpets from the Stukas

Shit gave me goosebumps senpai

>>85279579
I think if you are agreeing with the masses (who are easily entertained knuckle draggers), you might be one of them.

>half the theater were groups of girls only

Is this the power of Harry Styles?

>>85279541
What a strange moment. So fucking anticlimactic. It was like the film itself was just like "There's the sad stuff - aaaaand, let's move on."

>>85279638
That's how it is in real life, Nolan is an autist, he wanted to capture that.

>>85279575
by character development you the mean those scenes at the start of movies which show how perfect their lives were and how they were madly in love with their really hot wives which make you question why they would ever think of leaving them
no thanks lad

>>85279579
I like how you call it a masterpiece and then continue to reinforce your position by saying how many people clapped. Just brilliant, mate.

>>85279637
Yes. Nolan casted Harry Styles so the millenials of today can reconnect with their ancestors who fought in WW2

>>85279373
>begins TDKR with loud gun shots and bullets
>begins Dunkirk the same way
Pottery. BRAVO NOLAN BRAVO

>>85279637
really? at my showing almost the entire theatre was old people

Filed under: kinos Americans will never understand

>>85277083
>proceeds with 120 minutes of clock ticking
>film is only 107 minutes long

What did he mean by this?

>>85279680
good, because people are forgetting the war

>>85279594
i think the idea was that because the stuka was dive bombing it got low enough that he was able to shoot it down without needing to maneuver his plane much.

complete sell out in the cinema i went to last night and yes alot of the audience did clap at the end

>>85279703
It's probably more likely that the ones praising this crap are Americans, because more than half of us are easily entertained zombies. So congrats, you fit right in with most of us Americans.

Ok I'll address the elephant in the room. Is Nolan racist?

anyone know why tom hardy didn't parachute out of the plane and land on the beach

>>85279575
fuck off with your "muh character development." it's a war movie not a drama, queer.

>>85279637
Holy shit, that was half of my theater too. The rest were old or the classic "I like ww2" dads.

>>85279637
>>85279680
My sister's only question after I told her I saw it - "Oh, how was the guy from One Direction?" I didn't even know he was in the movie. I was like, "I think so? No one really talked so there wasn't much acting."

>>85279724
All the wars get forgotten eventually as more time goes on. Nobody today gives a fuck about the battle of Carthage do they? Many years from now, nobody will give a shit about the World Wars except historians and history buffs.

It's just the way it is.

The dogfights were so lame, where were the loops and barrel rollls and shit?

>>85277981
Totally agree. I also thought the portrayal of war at sea was good. You don't see either of those done well in movies or miniseries'.

>>85279759
You didn't notice token Black French Solider Man?

>>85279791
Jesus Christ anon, how many war movies have you actually watched? Nearly All of them have character development, some of the BEST character development. You seriously have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

Goes to show.

there were a few goosebump moment in it

>>85279780
he didn't have the altitude to deploy his parachute. same reason why his buddy also went down with the plane in the riskier water landing than parachute out.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VJ39nVIBk

>>85278445
Definitely and the BANG of the shells and torpedo hitting the boats sounded great. Not just generic controlled explosive sound.

>>85279759
Thought never crossed my mind, why do you ask?

>>85279832
>mfw the guard would've let those guys on if they kicked out the nigger

>>85279849
"war movies" like what, the thin red line? fuck off with your "war movies."

>>85279817
They weren't aces and they were flying on the deck. Both of those maneovers performed wrong could lead to a stall which at that altitude would put you straight into the drink.

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>>85279812
As soon as we forget history we are doomed to repeat it.

>>85279579
No clapping, but I really liked it. It exceeded my expectations actually. Fuck all these fags here - the only WWII movie they'd like is one where Hitler wins.

>>85279918
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." -Mark Twain

im glad they dont dramatize the deaths. everyone just sort of dies and you move on. that's how it should be in war. no crying and sobbing for a minute,

>A Mark I Spitfire would not specifically have a reserve tank; it would have three tanks with different amounts of fuel
>Dunkirk's “Messerschmitt” has a slightly anachronistic yellow-nosed paint job so that it could be more easily discerned from the Spitfires.
>Dunkirk (2017) Timeline Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUwRuUWHMFc

Dunkirk is the worst movie ever made.

>>85279894
>Full Metal Jacket
>SPR
>Das Boot
>Apocalypse Now
>Letters from Iwo Jima
>Paths of Glory
>All Quiet on the Western Front
>Flags of Our Fathers

Seriously anon, it's time you go fuck off. You know shit about films.

>>85280000
>know your place West Brit

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Is Christopher "If I see a nigger, I'll pull the trigger" Nolan officially /ourguy/?

Nolan is a con artist. People will rave about this movie for a couple weeks and it will be forgotten in a year.

>>85276796
Can someone please tell me how Hardy was able to set his ENTIRE plane on fire, when it was out of fuel and all he had was a flare gun?

It was seriously a wtf moment for me.

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So there was literally no dialogue in the movie between the major characters or something?

I thought it was great. My heart rate was elevated the whole time. You would have to be a major contrarian to have a completely negative opinion of Dunkirk.
Also I certainly know more about film than you guys, so you trust my opinion. ;)

>>85280063
Getting caught was part of his plan.

I went for this movie with my 9 years old nephew. Movie was just OK for me, but he was terrified in many scenes and he want to leave. I said to him that this soldiers also wanted to leave and we stayed to the end. I think it was important lesson.

>>85280089
I get that, but how did he set his plane of fire with nothing but a flare gun, when his plane was bone dry of fuel?

I mean, the entire plane was on fire... how?

>>85280073
The admiral chats to the army officers about Churchill's plan to get 30,000 men back alive and there's an argument between soldiers while a boat being shot at.

>>85280126
The fire rises

>>85280073
The fighter pilots discuss their targets, the British officers discuss the plans being handed down to them, the family on the small boat argue with each other and with a rescued officer about the responsibility of going to war, and the lead young soldiers barely talk at all because one is practically mute and one is a French mole who doesn't understand English. They communicate mostly by looking at each other like "wanna go that way?" "Sure"

>>85280141
Strong silent types, men like that are hard to come by these days.

I don't remember the second time he went to shit. I saw it like 24 hours ago what the fuck is wrong with my memory? Someone fill me in

>>85280093
Yeah good lesson.

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did like this bit

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>>85280093

Are you Jordan Peterson?

>>85278775
faggot

>>85280205
How did he do that with just a flare gun? I still want to know. His plane was completely out of fuel.

>>85280205
GUTEN-TAG HANS, I'M RAF

>>85280093
Gotta prep em' young for those Stuka attacks during trips to the beach.

>>85280029
I give him props by not jewing up a Hollywood blockbuster with nigs and females in places they don't belong.

i liked that sand bank wall bit at the start aswell

>>85280126
It was probably a kit plane, made of wood.

I mean, I'm an air mechanic and when I saw the prop wasn't connected to anything, I cringed.
But I still had a great time watching this. Some of the air shots were incredible.

>>85276796
come back when the camrip is out pleb

best film of the year
so far

>>85280073
there is dialogue, it's just sparse. Some parts have a lot.

>>85280178
The first bit he gets shot at. Second tine is right after he reaches the beach but some dude is staring at him. The French guy.

>>85280205
fuck that scene was good.

>>85280012
>Letters from Iwo Jima
>Paths of Glory
>Flags of Our Fathers
>war movies
lmao

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have i missed anything anons?

>>85280253
Spitfires are made of wood with a vinyl or metal wrap. Ammo and oil are flammable too

>>85280573
for moty? That's pretty much it so far.

>>85280522
Oh right. I somehow missed the first time

I saw it in IMAX and I'm deaf now AMA


but really Oscar for sound when?

>>85280063
>>85280253
Maybe he had some other shit in his pack, who knows.

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>Hardy gets captured by the Germans in the end
Can we have a sequel where he escapes and becomes a secret agent and then the movie ends with him saying that his real name is "James Bond">

And then we have a rebooted Bond franchise based on the books beginning with Bond exiting the war

>>85280646
This. Nolan always delivers on loud sound.

Even tho I was getting a bit bored during the movie, the loud noises were great

>>85280063
>>85280665
There's still stuff such as hydraulic fluid, oil, the actual compartment, the skin, there's a lot more that can catch on fire on a plane than just the fuel.

>>85280772
IM SORRY YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP
I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

He's one of the few directors that actually takes advantage of IMAX's massive sound capabilities. The theater literally shook with each bomb I loved it

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Why the hell was so attracted to him?

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>>85280825
The whole time I was struggling for a plausible reason to think why Christopher Nolan would cast Christian Bale's son and give him a pseudonym on the cast bill.

>>85278866
He definitely didn't purposefully kill the kid- plus he was locked in a room, and told he was going back to the place he had been trying to get out of. Of course he would argue with the lad who he believed was sending him into a death sentence, and a kid died in a fluke accident. I don't think he deserved to be hated, or that his previous accomplishments were nullified, considering he was hardly himself after being torpedoed and in shock.

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I am surprised Nolan cut out this guy. I thought he liked having memes in his movies?

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>>85278325

>>85280894

This extra's reaction is not even inappropriate. This is a forced meme.

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>Harry Styles delivered a brilliant acting performance
How did this happen? When he was acting he wasn't like some random guy but actually got really well into the role

>>85280894
I saw him just fine, just ignored him.

>>85280894
He didn't cut him out, I remember seeing his face because /tv/ memes made me look for him.

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>>85280936
Is he /our guy/?

I thought it'd be shit from the trailers and came with the lowest expectations possible and I was STILL disappointed. Worst movie I've seen in years, though that's partly because I don't watch many movies these days. Glad I didn't pay to see this shit.

i liked the bit at the end when fin was reading the churchill speech on the train
https://youtu.be/5IHadByMvXk

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Someone else put it perfect few days ago: It's the Nolan version of Elephant.

Although personally I prefer Elephant over this mainly due to the brilliance of every scene being 1 take.

How long were they actually on the train for?

Why was a German soldier never shown until the end and even then out of focus? I thought it was odd

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>British have almost nothing noteworthy in WWII that they have to make a movie about an evacuation instead
I guess I just didn't get it because its not my country, did britbongs actually feel a sense of pride while watching this? Didn't they do anything else noteworthy in this war that they could've made a movie about instead?

The first scene through the town was the best part and then it turned into a completely different type of movie. I'm not saying I expected Saving Private Ryan going into this, but I definitely didnt expect what it turned out to be either.

>>85281024
Do English people who saw this actually feel happy at that scene?

This movie doesn't work well for non English or for a younger generation. Only those familiar with the war and what happened at Dunkirk would have actually felt emotion

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>40,000 French hold off the Germans during the evacuation to be killed and captured
>film's only French characters are all assholes

>>85281097
At least a full day.

>>85280976
Nolan is not impressed with the power stance

>Miracle of Dunkirk
>German generals and Hitler make a stupid halt order.
>FUCK YEAH BRITAIN

?

>>85280936
He's was great but I wouldn't expect him to be carrying movies anytime soon. He had a lot to work with here, from the minimal dialogue to the emphasis on physical acting. His one acting bit when he was accusing the french dude of being german was brilliant though.

>>85281148
Yes because it's about the British spirit; being in a completely hopeless situation and not letting it caue a breakdown in order. There's a reason why everyone on the Beaches are silent, it's because the British know how to "keep calm and carry on"

>>85281111
It's suppose to add tension. Something about how not knowing your enemy's face adds the fear of the pilots/enemy.

This movie makes me wish Britain was a super power.

Why can't we colonise africa again?

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>>85281216
>He's was great but I wouldn't expect him to be carrying movies anytime soon.
Wrong. I trust him to be a lead in a movie and hope someone picks him up.

>His one acting bit when he was accusing the french dude of being german was brilliant though.
This. He looks to be an actor who carries a lot of inner dark emotions and thus he is perfect for cinema

>>85281275
>Why can't we colonise africa again?
Because whenever white people try to help out Africans, Africans tell us to fuck off and say they can live themselves.

>Despite Whites being responsible for helping poor African children get good food and clean water
Not to mention Africans kill each other and there are terrorist groups all over the continent.

The game Far Cry 2 is literally how Africa is.

Nolan is amazing at building up tension, like when they are carrying the stretcher, or when you don't know if Murphy's character will turn the boat around, or what happens to him when he's in the room. Also the part where the bomber is almost gonna take them all out at the end or the part in the middle-ish when the bullets are shot in the ship.

It doesn't need any standout characters or phony storylines or zippy dialogue. It's about Dunkirk and whether these boys will make it out alive or not.

>>85281175
>film's only French characters are all assholes
So, 100% accurate then.

Never heard a movie this loud before, I just want to go again because the sound was the shit

>>85281569
I take it you old or lucky enough to see Heist in theaters. I pity you anon.

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>>85280745
I would rather see a sequel where he is put into a underground prison, gets deformed trying to protect a child and ends with him crashing a plane with no survivors

>>85281569
interstellar was pretty loud

>>85277456
Wow that sounds fucking stupid. This movie is probably ass huh.

>>85281604
so was your mom

>>85281635
Nah it was pretty fucking good, see it in IMAX though for the full experience.

>>85281678
I probably won't. I've watched WWII docs and read a fair bit about the war. Modern war movies always present some pussy-assed Hollywoodized version of war that I'm not interested in.

>>85281749
No seriously this one is actually good, some of the main characters die, one of the main characters gets caught, and one of them doesn't get redeemed.

>>85281802
iI's actually not fucking good anon. It's mediocre at best. Your bar is set way too low.

>>85281206
It's about the British spirit, carrying on in the face of a 'colossal military disaster' and vowing to fight another day

It's about old men and young lads sailing their own little ships into the mouth of hell to help because there's a job that needs doing

It's about the old man at the end, a blind veteran, telling them that them surviving is enough

It's about the pilot using his last drops of fuel to stop the enemy bombing the boys on the ground despite knowing he'll face years of ignominious captivity

ITT: Films Americans will never understand

>>85281678
did you see it in real imax or liemax?

not many people have imax where they live... they probably have theaters that advertise an "imax experience", but they aren't seeing a real imax movie.

Munitions sounds and costume fabrics were my favorite parts

>>85280029
>>85279759
There weren't any black people at Dunkirk

Just the truth Stop making gay memes about

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>>85281855
The theater I went to is certified IMAX

>>85281844
>ITT: Films Americans will never understand
So, you're welcome then? Because last time I checked Warner Bros. is American.

>>85281893
forgot link: https://www.imax.com/theatres/edwards-valencia-stadium-12-imax

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Since we're on a WW kick anyone have a torrent for the OAR bluray release of The World At War? It came out last October, the blurays and are only available in the UK. I'm guessing someone has had to ripped and uploaded them by now.

>>85281164
>This movie doesn't work well for non English or for a younger generation.
Fuck those """people""".

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>>85281893
hmm, im not sure but i would assume thats one of those weak "imax experience" theaters.

you would know for sure. the true imax screens are absolutely massive compared to a normal theaters screen.

>>85279297
>i actually thought there was too MUCH dialogue

I just wish he didnt feel the need to give exposition through the old man so badly.

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>>85281893
nah nigga, if its not a floor to ceiling screen than its not IMax. Plenty of theatres call it Imax but its not the real thing. They do it for the shekels.

https://johncanfield.me/blog/brand-confused-world-imax-liemax/

>>85282182
It's literally listed on the IMAX website
and it's floor to ceiling
https://www.imax.com/theatres/edwards-valencia-stadium-12-imax

>>85282239
sorry bud, but you are one of the many people who fall victim to this scam. you think they are seeing imax and are paying a premium price for the tickets, but aren't getting real imax.

if you look at the showtimes for that theater
https://www.fandango.com/edwardsvalenciastadium1226imax_aabix/theaterpage?date=7/22/2017
you see it is "THE IMAX EXPERIENCE". they purposefully make it confusing just to jew people out of their money. the "imax experience™" is not the real imax.

the good news is you do have real imax theaters in Los Angeles, but the one you went to is not one of them. this map here will help you out.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1kFpygofjM9yQ0beWTjcrl6Lc8IU&hl=en_US&ll=33.98919396938158%2C-118.26616365234372&z=10

Friendly reminder that Nazis are all super evil murderers that stab babies with bayonets and roast them over burning jew fires to eat and the only reason the Allied forces escaped Dunkirk was because they are incompetent and not at all because they aren't totally evil and didn't slaughters tens of thousands of vulnerable enemy soldiers.

>>85282387
Eh, I used tickets I got for free, so not a total loss

anyways, killing myself because I'm an idiot, thanks anaon

>>85280225
he's right though, you guys just have a different role in the jewish subversion of gentiles.

>>85280205
CRASHING THIS PLANE, WITH NO SURVIVORS; THE FIRE RISES!

>>85277083
>Hans did you get that music done for me?
>oh fu- errr yeah I'll send it over now
>Brilliant, look forward to hearing it!
*click*
>shit shit oh fuck oh shit I haven't even started
*looks around room*
*sees grandfather clock and salt shaker*
>ah ha!

Powerful movie, definitely should be seen in theaters if only to hear how terrifying the Stukka's overhead are.

anyone else think that this film would have been improved with a higher age rating and better effects on the downed planes? every plane that got shot had that white smoke trail behind it

>>85282620

That's how most planes went down.

Japanese Zeros are the ones that burst into flames when shot

>>85281175
>film's only French characters are all assholes
no they weren't?
there were 3 french character, the one who says 'bon voyage' the ones trying to get on the leaving british ship and the one pretending to be british

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I get the whole non linear shtick, but something doesn't add up with this timeline. The civilian boat picked him up after his plane crashed, and picked up the Harry Styles group afterward. Yet in the torpedo scene, (which occured before the civilian pick up) after Styles group got off the sinking ship, he was also there on the life boats. Has Nolan went full retard with his editing?

>>85282620
yes
>>85282639
and no. Lot of them went down because their tail rudders were torn up causing them to nose dive, or the pilot himself was shot to shit causing the plan to again nose dive.

The lackluster repetitive white smoke trail was terrible. Justify it all you want, but most went down in various ways, not the same god damn way Nolan showed every time. It was simply bad.

>>85280894
The scene was shown it was just cut before the meme smile appeared.

>>85277300
t: same guy who says "any movie by Tarantino is kino"

>>85282620
even for the entire movie, i don't think their would have been anything to gain from an R rating. i think that the movie benefited by not focusing on unnecessary shots of gory violence

>>85282695
>The civilian boat picked him up after his plane crashed
Murphy was never on a plane, he was on a topedo'd boat

>>85282695
>Has Nolan went full retard with his editing?

Have you seen that dark knight movie?

>>85282765
I guess, but in the first scenes where the beach gets bombed and the explosions get closer there's just scattered bodies rather than exploded people

>>85277303
and the ticking stops right when all the troops are finally safe

>>85282814
>guy gets bomb dropped on him and he just flies strait up. Not blown to bits.

That scene looked terrible. Looked like something you'd see in a low budget tv series.

>>85282783
He was alone on a floating plane wreckage when the civilians found him. Have you seen the film?

>>85282886
he was on a fucking boat wreckage you spastic where do you think he'd get on a plane from Dunkirk? there was a rudder exposed out the water

stupid cunt

Shit was pretty grim for a pg13. Just give the fucking thing R rating. Why latch on to pg13? Makes no sense

>>85277083
Legend has it that the ticking sound was a pure accident. Zimmer had headphones on and couldn't hear his new watch that he bought until after the recording he had a listen back and couldn't be stuffed doing the entire recording again.

>>85282940
>Why latch on to pg13?
Because it had no blood you fucking idiot. It wasn't even that graphic at all. Titanic had more gruesome scenes

>>85282940
It's a family film, with explosions.

>>85282940
Shit was very mild, are you some kind of pussy?

>>85276796
>Can we discuss Dunkirk?
KINO KINO KINO XD

>>85283086
drowning's pretty gruesome, so's being lit on fire

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>>85283183
You are a sensitive one if you find that gruesome.
Again that shit is mild

>>85283249
it's not bloody but it's gruesome mate

>>85283183
>drowning's pretty gruesome, so's being lit on fire
They never showed someone drowning to death. It was implied a lot didn't make it out of the Boat while it sank but again, Nolan never focused on one person dying and let the audience which him slowly die.

As for the person on fire, that only happened once and we never saw his face burnt just him scream as fire touched him and then it cut to another scene.

Not that violent at all for a pg 13 flick.

Spiderman 2 has way more gruesome scenes

>>85283249
you're fucked up dude. drowning and burning is gruesome, and so is being squished by a boat

Does anyone have the 5 minute opening screen test? It was posted here months ago where Nolan showed the first 5 minutes to a small audience and some anon recorded it.

>>85283337
>They never showed someone drowning to death.

are you the same poster as >>85282886? I'm convinced you haven't watched the film

the boat that goes down where they get covered in oil, the french lad tries to make it to the ladder but can't and you see him struggle then stop moving and float away

>>85283342
>drowning and burning is gruesome, and so is being squished by a boat
Again, Nolan never showed this. Just some quick flashes of someone standing in the middle of flames. No one was squished by a Boat and if they were, it was a very wide camera angle that didn't make you even see it.

>>85283377
>the french lad tries to make it to the ladder but can't and you see him struggle then stop moving and float away
ah yes I forgot about that part. No I am not the same poster.

So wait hold on a second let's talk about Murphy again... I saw him escape in a small boat so why was he sitting on a wreckage of a big boat then?

The captain English guy who always wore the hat (forgot his name but it's that famous English actor) looked the same as he did in first and second half so got me confused if second half was showing the beginning of the movie again from a different angle but then he mentioned in the end about Churchhill getting his men so that confused me.

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What the hell was this guy doing with the British?

>>85283433
>I saw him escape in a small boat so why was he sitting on a wreckage of a big boat then?

no you saw him in a life raft going back to Dunkirk where him and his men pull harry styles and the other lad back to shore

I can only assume he was on a larger vessel that was torpedoed off screen

>>85283458
>the mole

deepest lore

>>85283395
>doesnt understand imagination > sight

>>85283546
Yeah that's not how the fuckin' rating system works buddy.

>>85281090
>Elephant
Great film

>>85279780

Brinlet detected.

>>85278051
I hate it when I go and see an orchestra perform and realise they're just manipulating my emotions effectively. It's enough to make me walk out each time it happens.

the germans were so fucking intimidating and spooky, like fucking ghosts almost that are killing everyone, the decision to never show a german face gave them such an aura of death whenever you saw a german plane or heard their bullets landing, really good shit

>>85279744
I will never get over the fact Americans clap in the cinema. Thought it was a meme for the longest time