What the fuck was his fucking problem?

>>85271099
watch the language and ill tell you

not my tempo

>>85271099
looking like a walking ballsack

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>having high standards

yeah i can see why you'd think that's a problem

>>85271099
He was bald thats why he was jealous of the kids who have long hair

The troll tactic works on some students but not on others. That's why his former student killed himself but fan4stic became great.

>>85271248
yeah, Drill Sargeant Hartman had one of those.

>>85271099
He took out his anger at failing to become a bigname jazz artist on his students.

Jazz music is awful.

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>>85271099
wasnt his tempo

>>85271134
LMFAO

>>85271099
The kids couldn't play his FUCKING tempo

>>85271248

I don't think that was ever a huge problem for him. In the end, he just wanted one (1) jazz master under his wing and by the end of the movie he's done that.

>>85271099
He did nothing wrong.

>>85271275
This.

He was a failed musician stuck teaching kids. Some of which were more talented than he was.

It's a common trait among the "those who can't make a living off their craft, teach how to do it to others" brigade. Use your position of authority and power, to crush the talent and dreams of in your charge, who have the ability and talent to reach the next level you yourself could never reach. All out of petty jealous and spite.

>>85271099
he had a fucking problem eh?
should have just tried viagra.

>>85271819
>He was a failed musician

Pretty much. It's obvious when Whiplash goes to the jazz club and finally sees him playing piano, and he's playing like, cliched garbage. I thought that was the point of the scene to show that he sucked as a musician, but no one ever seems to mention it.

too much time in solitary for going after beecher

came out ripped doh

>>85271099
he expected perfection - no less.

>>85271275
>>85271819
>>85271885

He can still be disappointed in himself and then decide to dedicate his life to mentoring someone truly great. In fact there's no real suggestion in the entire film implying in the slightest that he's only doing it because he couldn't.

>It's obvious when Whiplash goes to the jazz club and finally sees him playing piano, and he's playing like, cliched garbage. I thought that was the point of the scene to show that he sucked as a musician, but no one ever seems to mention it.

Yeah he sure sucks as a musician, being entrusted as the instructor of a national renowned music program and then falling back by playing and orchestrating professionally pretty much immediately. That "cliche garbage" could just be easily recognizable jazz to casual club goers much how a Journey or Queen cover band might be typical for a local high end dive bar.

If I'm wrong and you want to point to a specific example feel free to tell me but otherwise I think what's happened here is you anons have declared Fletcher the antagonist by purely speculative reasons.

shillingger did nothing wrong

no one could play his tempo. how is this so hard to understand?

>>85271275
Very few people make it big in Jazz anymore. There's no more Dizzy Gillespies or Miles Davis's, jazz is pretty niche nowadays. My mom's boyfriend trumpet player and is a go-to guy, top name for jazz bands playing in the state and clubs in the Denver area. He knows all the big time players around the country. Despite this, he taught middle school band and sold life insurance most of his life, as he couldn't feed his family playing jazz full-time. Basically all of the big name guys teach at a music college or some shit, only a very select few are popular enough to make decent money from jazz.

The guy in whiplash was probably one of the best players in his state, but enjoyed composing, orchestrating and teaching more than making shit bux on the road. In the end, he's just an asshole,

>>85271138
>>85271354
>>85271446
>>85272196

WERE YOU RUSHING OR WERE YOU DRAGGING

>>85272149
>you anons have declared Fletcher the antagonist by purely speculative reasons.

He is literally the antagonist of the film though. Look up the definition of the word.

>yells at everyone
>slaps people
>throw chairs at students
>everyone just accept that, nobody argues back, fights back etc
I may sound like an edgy fedora wearing autist or some shit but I don't think someone could pull this off in real life, or all his students are literal cucks or some shit, if he slapped me I would punch him in the face. That's why movie really didn't connect with me on emotional level, students don't do shit about that faggot, teachers get fired for all sorts of stuff these days. If you accept being yelled at every day you're a fucking cuck

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>>85272652

>I drum.

What did he mean by this?

>>85272789
They want to make it. They're not gonna fuck up their chances. We saw what happened when someone finally stood up to him. He lost it all. Their future is in his hands so they let him. He likely has tenure in the school so they don't look into his shit either.

>>85272789
>throw chairs at students
>teachers get fired for all sorts of stuff these days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jc2ESr43PY

>are you Russian or are you Dragon?

What did he mean by this?

>>85272889
But it happened 31 years ago

>>85272789
It's a prestigious school, they just give a shit about passing. Any of them could leave at any time and I'm sure a lot of them did, but most of them would rather tough it out and pursue the education. Sure someone could have reported him earlier, but he's clearly a good teacher and a lot of them care more about that than his personality.

>>85272945
and?

>>85273003
I said these days

>>85272931
He's making a subtle comment to the juxtaposition of East-Asian and Russian culture. In this case he's trying to ask which culture he identifies more with, but he uses "Dragon" in a poetic way to refer to the general ethos of East-Asian culture as a whole without specifying countries. It also makes it clear that he's talking more about their traditional culture than about the current culture, by using a term that is fantastical and is commonly used in iconography of Daoist and folk-religion beliefs throughout the region.

>>85272789

You're not meant to take it seriously. The film is an allegory and discipline and art.

>>85271099
What was his fucking tempo?

>>85272789

thats why gay faggots like you dont have discipline and why you're on fucking 4chan alone on a friday night.

>u the typa autistic nigga that tried to power up in middle school when someone picked on you

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>>85272612
>My mom's boyfriend trumpet
>tfw this guy's mom is a coal burner

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>>85273142
If you have to ask, you're never gonna make it.

>>85273142
something you're not getting

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>>85271099
Who would win in an argument; him or pic related?

>>85272789
This was basically the Navy for me, except nobody ever slapped me. All that other shit happened though.

>>85273181
He is short, pasty white and bald. Dude is a shit eating liberal though. I went to visit them with my wife and son before the election and he got wasted and went on this rant about how it's her time, women have been held down for too long and Donald Blumpf is a buffoon that will never win in nu-America.

I saw him again on January 25th and he just watched the news and pouted about anything Trump related.

>>85273155
>u the typa autistic nigga that tried to power up in middle school when someone picked on you
so did you just accept the bullying and never fought back or did anything to change the situation you got into? damn, looks like I'm a faggot with no discipline, huh...
>why you're on fucking 4chan alone on a friday night.
it's 9 am here in my third world hellhole retard

N O T

Q U I T E

M Y

T E M P O

>>85273496

Most artists are mentally ill. It's not surprising

>>85271099
I love JK Simmons

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>>85273142

>>85273551

fuk ur retarded

>cant even get dubs babby loser.

>>85273687
you sound very disciplined anon

>>85271349

Problem is that it's difficult to distinguish good jazz from bad jazz.

Free jazz is awful, objectively

>>85273630

I love him in Oz. Goddamn he makes a good nazi

>>85273829
I loved him in burned after reading... he makes such a good higher-upper

It was Spiderman. He's a goddamned menace
That, or it was his IBS acting up again and Mountain Girl wasn't around to help

Flick was good until you find out he was a bitter dweeb with zero abillity to self reflect.

>>85271099
The only person that ever showed promise sued him for trying to fuck him.