Is This The Greatest War Film of Our Generation?

Its a reddit film and the entire internet, /tv/ imdb and letterboxd is reddit. Fuck off you tom hardy loving faggot.

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>>85263197

>Shows the horrors of war as realistically as possible
>pg 13

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>>85263247
Please explain how it's a reddit film if there was no libshit propaganda pushed at all in it? You're probably only saying that because it made a fuckton of money on it's opening you disgusting hipster.

>>85263197
>ebul Germans

Yeah buddy they were being shot down by god or something

>>85263384
It just showed them as enemy combatants doing their job.
Instead of the usual hollywood depiction having a Blonde Hair Blue Eyed Hans personally gassing 10 million jews himself whilst curb stomping a black man & raping the corpses

>>85263460
Yep

The british did there job
The german did their job
the french where shown doing their job.

I still shocked on how good it was.

it'll be the goto substitute history teacher movie for a while

>>85263249
It was more terrifying then Saving private Ryan. you can drown people and burn them alive with PG-13

Just got back from seeing it, yes it was far better than saving private ryan.

No agendas, no overexaggerated special effects (the pacific, saving private ryan) just lads on boats praying they don't get dive bombed, or drown under a boat, or burn to death in the sea by oil.

>>85263197
10/10 topkino

To be honest, I was semi-worried about it being only PG-13, but since the majority of deaths were drownings, and bombings at sea, it was definitely acceptable. Easily the most dread I've felt in the cinema in at least 5 years.

>>85263739
Provate Ryan was a shlocky gorefest for the sake of being acshlocky gorefest
>(((spielberg)))
Big surprise

Surprised no-one has really mentioned the outstanding zimmer score, cinematography (well worth seeing on 70mm), or the sound design.

>>85264192
Skund design really hooked me
The gunfire & the ominous ticking prevented me from taking a piss for 145 mins
Just added to the tension desu

>>85264058
>>85264086
Those Stukas Jericho trumpets seriously were terrifying in this movie.

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>Winston Churchill’s 1940 “We Shall Fight on the Beaches” speech is paraphrased in Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk, but after watching nearly two hours of uninspiring mayhem, it rings hollow. Although this is only Nolan’s third movie that is set, at least partly, in his homeland England — it depicts the evacuation of more than 300,000 British Expeditionary troops trapped in Dunkirk, France, at the start of World War II — he seems incapable of conveying a sense of cultural authenticity or patriotic feeling. (For that, see John Boorman’s WWII memoirs Hope & Glory and Queen & Country.) Preening for fanboys in 70mm, Nolan’s vast, clear views of dull-to-horrific killings, plus amped-up artillery sound effects, are no different from what he did in his Dark Knight trilogy. Like Michael Bay’s fantasy Pearl Harbor (1999), Dunkirk uses history as a pretext to show off the director’s fascination for calamity.

>Nolan divides his story into three anachronistic yet interlocking sections: British commander Kenneth Branagh oversees the massive boat lift; pilot Tom Hardy does aerial combat to keep German planes from strafing the beached armed forces; civilian Mark Rylance joins a flotilla of private boats and picks up downed pilot Cillian Murphy. Given such narrative chaos, the only certainty is that the West is under attack. This makes Dunkirk a freakily contemporary allegory for the ongoing global war no one wants to name. (The film’s opening epigraph refers to “The Enemy” instead of citing a nation, philosophy, or religion.)

>>85264192
Yep. The sound design was amazing. As it will be used for years as best examples of sound design and sound editing.

My only minor complaint was the three troopers looked a lot alike, so I wasn't sure for a bit which one of them died by inhaling fire

Then again, that might be by design.

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>It’s routine to describe battle films as “anti-war,” still, that misnomer doesn’t describe Dunkirk — the apolitical Nolan transforms the “anti-war” genre into his patented “life is cheap” genre. Each sequence that details the brutal tragedy of warfare is punishing yet remote. Men caught in numerous doom-laden catastrophes are presented IMAX-size for no other reason than shock, discomfort, and the awe of action-addicted filmgoers — adolescents who are temperamentally distanced from how those experiences shaped modern Western culture.

>Nolan exploits technology for effect, not to enrich history. Unlike Ang Lee’s very fine Iraq War drama, Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk, which used 3-D to explore the depths of brotherhood and the war’s emotional complexities, Nolan’s movie flaunts empty violence. Duty is depicted as futile, and despite parroting Churchill’s spiritual motivation against darkness, Nolan typically evokes nihilism without any follow-through. Dunkirk feels dispassionate; it caters to pampered Boomers who never fought for or believed in a war or military service. Note the civilian armada approaching their countrymen: Each face is expressionless. Is this because Nolan rejects emotion, or does patriotic fervor embarrass him?

>>85263197
Was somewhat boring, didn't really get interested in the characters or plot.
3/5.
Nolan should leave writing to someone else

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>It’s possible that Nolan, having created an audience of Millennial pessimists, is uninterested in the fellow feeling that Ang Lee made so intimate and that Clint Eastwood’s Sully and Mel Gibson’s Hacksaw Ridge made affecting as well as spectacular. Nolan misuses the big screen the same way Paul Thomas Anderson did in The Master — as a fanboy selling tool but not for aesthetic exploration. Nolan emphasizes large-scale violence then looks past its effect as he always does — as in that inept football-stadium bombing in The Dark Knight Rises. Dunkirk is equally repellent when Nolan toys with anonymous men trapped in the hull of a ship, helplessly watching bullet holes pierce their safety, or when a pilot nearly drowns as his plane sinks into rising waters. These sitting-duck moments are not suspenseful but torturous, whereas the great action directors — Eisenstein, Peckinpah, Lean, De Palma, Spielberg, Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Abel Gance, Walter Hill, Bay at his best — could all depict action to get at a viewer’s understanding of fate. They mastered narrative and existential coherence. Nolan’s visual language is full of gaps; its pretense at Alain Resnais–style time-shifting seems some kind of joke when a director can’t accomplish straightforward storytelling.

>Dunkirk has been made without wartime sympathy. That’s why the Churchill speech comes off as unconvincing and sappy. Nolan’s detached style mocks the populism that relates to average-grunt, working-joe service; it continues the attitude of Nineties indie filmmakers who chose cynicism over sentiment, anti-Western subversion over jingoism.

>>85264429
I can see that. I think after a bit it was easy to tell the difference, though. Or it could have been by design since the film contained basically zero exposition, which made it feel even more real IMO. I.e. soldiers in a shit situation like that wouldn't sit around talking about Jane back home, etc, when the feeling of the next impending attack is just around the bend. Really happy with Nolan's decisions across the board.

>>For those with movie memories, hearing the Churchill speech brings back how William Wyler uncannily paraphrased it in his Mrs. Miniver (1942), spoken as part of a sermon in an English church whose ceiling had been blasted open during the Blitz. Wyler visualized hope — contrasting an image of disaster — while the church congregation sang “Onward, Christian Soldiers.” Dunkirk might have matched Wyler’s nobility, but Nolan won’t risk offending our godless film industry.

>>85263739
No it wasn't. In the first scene when the entire group gets shot down running to the beach the whole theatre was laughing because it was so lame, guys get shot, no blood no nothing. It was so goddamn tame that it ruined it. The only time you see blood in the movie is when the kid on the boat is pushed down. Fucking kek.

War movie and not a single drop of blood, I felt like I was watching a kid's movie.

Wasted/10

>>85264462
coming out of Dunkirk thinking it is anti-war or "life is cheap"

Jesus, did this asshole even watch the same movie?

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>>85263197
>Is the boy alright
>yeah

>>85264548
I think also part of it was that the survivors where covered in oil so you couldn't tell the fine facial stuff.

But I agree, it worked brilliantly. Didn't matter why they wanted to go home, just that they needed to get home.

>>85264582
were you in the plex with a bunch of 12 year olds?

saying its so great about white power when
they were fighting and had a hand in defeating fag nazis

>>85263197
can't wait for the yify rip to drop

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>>85264635
>That nod by the dad after

I cried at the end

it's a fucking masterpiece

>>85264665
No, but even the Dark Knight trilogy handled death far better than Dunkirk. Completely emotionless and without impact here because it was so tame.

>>85263197
Is Nolan the GOAT director of our time?

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Leave the French to me

>>85264798
no, but he's very very good. a lot better than /tv/ contrarians give him credit for. if he continued to make films on the level of dunkirk, he could be in the running for greatest modern director.

>>85264798
No he's a watered-down talentless Kubrick, but even more autistic and inhuman

>>85264844
nolan's not kubrick, he's spielberg. he's a very talented pop director, but he doesn't approach the depth of somebody like kubrick.

Just back from it, amazing film. Great experience. Glad I didn't wait another second to see it.

>>85264842
I was going to say this. I really like Nolan's vision and taste, but even for how great and original a film like inception is (9/10 imo), there are always silly, glaring plot holes, or egregious amounts of exposition. That being said, Dunkirk had none of those things.

>>85264895
> depth
> film

You're just as pathetic as the man-children reading comic books. There's nothing deep about your autistic little indie directors. Film is a lower tier art form for good reason.

>Those hints of Nimrod in the soundtrack to the closing sequence

Pure fucking Kino

>>85264775
Kek, you know, sarcasm doesn't do well online as no one can tell if you are being sarcastic or just retarded.

>>85264798
No, he's pseudo intellectual hack with no depth, vision or understanding of his content or work. He exists to enforce spectacle and peddle popcorn to the unwashed masses who lap up calamity and human carnage but his films have no moral message or deep philosophical insight.

Nolan is the epitome of reddit. He is memes.
He does not in anyway stand up to the likes of Bresson, Godard, Snyder or Malick

A pointless brothers war, all this effort just to destroy their civilization

And know that their grand children will be raped by muslims

If you didn't experience a major adrenaline rush during the final action sequence when all timelines merged together you're a literal cuck.

>>85264895
He's worse than Spielberg, though
And much, much less emotion-driven in his movies

>>85264895
>comparing Nolan to based Spielberg

>>85264985
>but his films have no moral message or deep philosophical insight

If you're looking for deep philosophical insight you should be reading a book you fucking pseud.

>>85265033
i think he's more consistent than spielberg. but my point is that people who think he's the modern day kubrick or hitchcock are off base.

>>85265077
I don't think he a kubrick or Hitchcock.

but now he has 3 great films (Memento, Prestige, Dunkirk) and not many directors have three great films.

>>85265193
Hitchcock is overrated garbage though

>>85264717
The guy probably had survivor guilt as it was, better just leave him be.

>>85265077
Stylistically he's a lot more comparable to Kubrick than Spielberg, but I agree that saying he's close to either is really wrong. He's his own dude, but a very sterile, stageplay sort of filmmaker with a complete ineptitude on writing, editing and action.

And a complete lack of actual emotion in his movies.

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>The ticking clock throughout

>>85263249

Nothing like being packed to over capacity below deck and going down in an iron tomb with 200 other men.

>>85265255
>And a complete lack of actual emotion in his movies.
If you didn't tear up during Dunkirk you're probably a subhuman 3rd worlder

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>>85265338
>gives kids school photo to the local newspaper

>>85265255
>a complete ineptitude on writing, editing and action.
Wrong, the editing and action in Dunkirk is flawless. Nolan isn't good at hand to hand action but he's fucking great at large scale action.

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>>85265270
>all the sound effects every time the dogfights came on

>>85265252
Yep

>>85265338
This, I got a little watery when all the little boats came over the horizon. And my wife almost pulled my hand off since she thought they where going to pull a "Das boot" ending where you think they make it but then they died.

>>85265390
Yep, Nolan has two weaknesses

Hand to hand action
talking

The movie had no hand to hand action and very little talking. everything else he does is great, and the movie is brilliant.

>>85265338
I'm judging him by his entire filmography.
If Dunkirk breaks the mold, sure that's great.

But so far I've thought he's been very emotionless, and aesthetically uninteresting.

>When all the timelines begin to click together in your head

Bravo Nolan

>>85265483
what
I didn't get it when they showed the old man boat in the day time and then cut to night time in dunkirk and then back to day time in the sea with the man wtff I thought it was happening at the same time

>>85263197
Redditkirk: The film

It is shit, and all you plebs need to FUCK OFF

>>85265483
So anons

which of the ship sinking got to you the most?

>>85265270
>The ticking stops

>>85265255
>He's his own dude, but a very sterile, stageplay sort of filmmaker with a complete ineptitude on writing, editing and action.

Generally agree, except The Dark Knight is basically a perfectly edited film

>>85265537
The first one where everyone is happily eating bread and jam and drinking tea thinking their ordeal was over.

>>85265536
What's it like being 15?

>>85264582
So you watched it with a bunch of middle schoolers

>>85264582
its almost as if when people are shot they dont explode like a balloon full of red paint

>>85265561
>The Dark Knight is basically a perfectly edited film
I think it a bit long. But I am in the minority in that view.

>>85265005
This

out of interest how many of are British and do you think that improved your opinion of the film?

>>85264582
>everyone laughed
why would someone do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies

stream when?

>>85264582
(you)

>>85265626
Yep. The reality is that when you are shot and you are wearing a coat like the troopers wear it takes a few minutes for it to show. For example, when Reagan was shot they where blocks away before they realized he was shot and they diverted to the hospital.

>>85265708
American here, but watched it with my wife who effectively a brit. (White African of British extraction)

>>85263197
I just came back from the theater and No. God no.
It was the same shit throughout the entire film. Shoot plane, white smoke puffs out. Sinking ships, picking sailors out of the water.

It was extremely boring, and the score felt extremely misplaced for a WWII film compared to Nolan's other films.

I love WWII films, but this was very dry.
After you see the first dogfight, you pretty much have seen ALL them for the rest of the movie; truly boring. Same with the ships being blown up.

Also the soldier on the beach that had a bomb dropped on him would have been blown to pieces, instead he just flies up with some sand.

I wanted to like this film, truly. I love WWII and WWI movies, but this was just felt lackluster.

>>85263197
>Completely dedicated to a Male Audience
but you just said it was accurate and realistic. why would that mean its dedicated to a male audience?

>>85265270
Literally turned my head around because I thought someone was fighting with something

>>85265846
It's not. Some of my male friends are plebs and thought it was meh, but my girlfriend loved it. Idk what kind of women you faggots hang around with, or maybe you're all just teenagers, but it's hardly catered to only males

>>85265941
I think its more that i's just aimed at a non-plebby audience. If you go in thinking it's going to be some blood and guts action movie like some people in this thread did you're going to be disappointed. It's a film about dread.

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>>85265270

>The blasts of static

>>85263197
>Warner Brothers Pictures
>kike free

It was just another movie stylizing the horrors of war for profit.

>>85265813
> lackluster
> re

You're American. You wouldn't understand the target audience.

Does the pop singer die? Seems out of place casting someone like him and I don't believe for one moment Nolan casted him without knowing he was in some faggy boyband beforehand.

>>85266441
Actually turned in a pretty solid performance desu

>>85266226
Oh fuck off

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>found out he actually doesn't die when you take the mask off

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>The Stukas

>>85266552
wtf i thought this was 70mm this looks like my phone?!

>>85263197
>accurate with vehicles
>Buchon in place for Emil 109
dropped
I get it that Nolan aims for realism with his practical effects and IMAX 70mm blah blah blah but it seems counter to his aims to not even use a proper aircraft. I'd rather see a CGI Emil 109 if they couldn't get an airworthy one than some bastardized stand in.

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>>85266571
The sound effects for all the WWII planes

So good

>>85263197
Can we not have first week be 4chan week and then when Reddit attaches its slime to it then it can be Reddit? Fuck me we could at least discuss this like adults for ONE week then devolve to mindless hate because Reddit happens to like the objectively greatest director of our generation.

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>wings juddering when spitfire takes a tight turn

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T O R P E DO

>>85266552
Was getting caught part of his plan?

>>85266755
of course

>last scene
>the fire rises
NOLAN KNEW!

EEES A GERMAN SPOY!!!

AW WAIT HES A BLOODY FROG!!

>take genre faggots have a hard-on for (action/sci-fi/crime/war)
>apply gimmick
>?????????????
>OMG NOLAN DA BEZT DIRECTUR ALL TIEM

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THE PLAN I JUST FILED WITH THE ADMIRALTY LISTS ME, THE BEF AND NO FRENCH

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Singapore sequel when?

burning this plane, with no survivors

>>85263380
Social conservatives and religious people have lower IQs than liberals and atheists. Look it up. Why do you think it is that stupid people adopt anti-science views and believe in magic and sandnigger fables?

>>85263247
>reddit
>reddit
>reddit
>reddit
>reddit
>lots of people like something because it's good so
>reddit
>reddit
>reddit

>>85266815
>be from reddit
>see objectively good movie that people like
>feel the need to fit in to /tv/
>??????????
>WE R LEGION LELELEL

>>85263197
But the Germans were evil, they elected a dictator who wants to murder innocent people, not just jews, and then invaded sovereign nations. What's your definition of evil? Not fucking your sister?

just got back from the cinema lads
wtf i hate germans now

>>85263707
>The german did their job
They were trying to destroy England, the English were trying to save their country. Why are there so many cucked nazi apologists on this website? Do your parents know you're becoming radicalized on the internet?

The main dude tried to do a poo twice at the start but we never see him finish his poo.

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>>85266708
>Spitfire goes into negative G dive
>Engine cuts out as carburetor is deprived of fuel

Nolan did his homework

>First part of the movie titled The Mole
>Refers not just to the Mole itself but also the French "mole" attempting to blend into the BEF on the beach

BRAVO NOLAN

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>>85266925
hola redito

>>85266962
Why? They were barely even portrayed as bad. Are you implying a WW2 movie should change history and have us fight the Jews?

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>>85266962
better late than never

>>85266620
>>85266708
>>85267015
Spitfire and BF109 were the actual planes brought out of the museums to be flown for the movie.

>>85266962
>not hating the germans

they're trying to take over Europe again with the EU

>>85267032
No, I think he's implying DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

>>85267041
>Bf 109
nigga that was a Buchon

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>>85267032
>the germans were good boys they dindu nuffin

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>>85267069
REAP
THE
WHIRLWIND

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>>85266843
I can't wait for his inevitable Bomber Harris biography

>>85265813
Same here, just got back. Completely agree with you. Lots of scared faces, no levity in the face of dire consequences. No names or likeable characters. We got it Nolan (atmosphere) WE GOT IT! Move on. Zimmer music was annoying.

>>85265067
agreed. dunkirk was great but let's not get carried away.

>>85267090
How did you get that from my post?

>>85267041
Unfortunately the 109 was the Spanish model and not the original German one because none of them are in any condition to fly.

>129 posts
>ctrl-f "Hoyte van Hoytema"
>no hits

Yeah, because Nolan made the film singlehandedly.

>>85267123
Given the current time, you must be American.

> levity in the face of dire consequences
Only Americans in movies turn to soliloquise about Mary-Jane back home when mid-battle. This shit never actually happens.

when the fuck do we get a film about operation chariot?

>>85264411
>Given such narrative chaos, the only certainty is that the West is under attack. This makes Dunkirk a freakily contemporary allegory for the ongoing global war no one wants to name.
The fuck? If you need to say something, fucking say it. Don't pretend to be professional then misconstrue a movie's abstraction of an enemy for any random shit you can pick that's bugging you right now.

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>I'm staying...for the french

wtf the french generals got the first boat out of there though

>>85264312

What a time to be alive

I thought it was excellent but did anyone else feel they dropped the ball on the colour correction? Even taking the switching narratives into account, within each scene it seemed like the weather and time of day changed drastically from shot to shot even when the movie was running more or less in real-time.

>>85267185
Castle Itter movie WHEN

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Castle_Itter

>>85267183
Oh enough!
You don't have to do my girlfriend back home shit or man to see the sox at Fenway again. Some kind of back and forth would of been nice. ARE YOU KRAUT! WHY DONT YOU TALK! ......whatever.

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>>85265005
>Hardy shooting down the german plane while gliding his own plane like a boss

>>85264994
only one side sympathized with the muslems

>>85265472
how contrarian can you be, we're reaching opposite day tier opinions

>>85264490
Armond White clearly spent the entire movie thinking about Christopher Nolan and how stupid he thought Batman was, instead of feeling anything or participating in the film. This movie didn't tell you what to think, so of course when Armond watches in bad faith he thinks it meant nothing.

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>mfw this entire film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caP7VY5trw8

>>85263197
The best thing about this movie is you can enjoy half of Harry Styles' fangirls leaving the theater because there is no hamfisted romance story with Harry Styles

Would the movie have been better with gore?

>>85264985
That's incredibly small minded of you. Nolan's talent is in the creation and execution of massive destructive scenes, and he chose to channel that talent into a respectable film about a really terrifying part of a real war. The idea that Nolan is 'responding' to reddit in any way is kind of self-centered of you.

>>85267548
a trio of teenage girls trooped into my screening just before it started. It didn't occur to me that they may have been there just for Styles until I read your post.

I wonder what they thought of the film...

>>85267553
Not really, all deaths in the film were by drowning, set on fire. One character got shot by rifle and it was off screen.

>>85267123
>Zimmer music was annoying.
Also Harry Styles singing it ain't me over the credits was a tad much Nolan

>>85267553
the gore would have only been a superficial improvement, the movie can stand on it's own quite well without it.

The bright side to this, is that High schools will probably show it to kids in History classes now, due to it's attention to detail.

>>85267553
Gore would have been overkill. I think the building tension over the course of the movie would have been broken by graphic decapitation

>the sound of that guy screaming as he's crushed between the boat and the pier though

>>85267563
And he's a total fag too

>The woman did not come back. But she left me a few issues of Life, one of which contained a long extract from Winston Churchill’s War Memoirs. In it, the British ex-Premier tried his best to explain that the Führer’s orders to stop the rush of the German armoured divisions to Dunkirk — the orders that resulted in “clearing the way for the British Army,” — were taken on the initiative of General Runstedt, and inspired by anything but the desire to show generosity to England as I had somewhere stated in the third chapter of my Gold in the Furnace. He buttressed his deductions, — he said — upon the “actual diary of General Runstedt’s Headquarters, written at the time.” But as I read that, I suddenly recalled what Miss Taylor had told me of the privileges granted by the British authorities to the so- called “war criminal” General Runstedt, in particular, his leave from prison on parole. And I also recalled Colonel Vickers’ statement to me, on Wednesday morning, the 6th of April, 1949: “Political prisoners are the last people to whom we grant special privileges . . . save in the case they write for us or do some secret work for us, in one way or another” (sic). I could not help . . . “putting two and two together”

>>85267822
Sure.

>>85263197
>evil Germans
The nazis killed millions of people and commited genocide

Did any of you guys get a piece of film reel as a gift from the theater for watching the 70mm version?

Will Dunkirk become one of those "films women will never understand" like Master and Commander?

>>85267853

Not all Germans were Nazis, desu.

Were there ANY non-whites in this movie? Some dumbass complained there wasn't any "POC" in the main cast.

>>85267874
Nah women would like to since it's essentially a thriller.

>>85267927
one of the frog soldiers on the mole trying to get on the medical ship was black

Was anyone else reminded of The Red and The White while watching Dunkirk?
I think Dunkirk perfected the chaotic and unflinching portrayal of a chaotic "battle" that Red and White used way back in 1958.
That film, Thin Red Line, and now Dunkirk stand out as the only true war films that brought significant innovation and artistry to the genre

>>85267927
black french guy wanted to get on the boat but brits said no

>no agendas
>movie has nazis dropping leaflets and shit telling the english how fucked they are
And i dont remember it mentioning how germans withheld attack for 3 days to let the brits run

>>85267927
Only non white was the blackest french soldier in the world.

>>85266441
He was more then fine.

I thought for a second he was oil burn guy, but that was the other guy.

>>85267927
Kanté was trying to get on the boat at one point

>>85263197
>Shows the horrors of war as realistically as possible
No. It was all about
>Accurate with Vehicles
>Accurate with Weaponary
Also great sound design. Although my experience was ruined by fucking one direction fan-cunts, i had to fucking beat the shit out of them, but the movie was decent. But it's not a masterpiece. The best story-line was about Cillian Murphy's character. Wish we had more about him.
The true horrors of war and value of human life is greatly explored in Kubricks "Paths of Glory".

>>85266909
This is bait

>>85267640
I guess you were just closing your eyes when 4 people got shot in the first fucking scene and that guy who literally had a bomb dropped on him the first time dive bombers showed up.

>those night shots with only fire illuminating the scene
pure kino

>>85263197
I agree, but the /tv/ hipsters are going to be bashing this film for years.

>>85267078
And a Buchon is just a fancy way of saying a spanish built Bf 109, since there is no german made Bf 109s that fly.

Were there black french at Dunkirk or was that just a token thrown in?

>>85265270
That shit made the film for me
>whilst holding in piss for over an hour and a half
Christ, I've never experienced stress like that in a Cinema

>>85265813
>I love WWII films
i've found the problem, this was a grounded portrayal with some fill in the gaps, its like a fantastic fan fiction, one that makes you so angry wishing it happened the way it did on film.

it was a documentary style drama, with technical minute details and not soap eyed frames

>>85264582
How can anybody take what you just typed seriously?

>>85268110
ya i was there.

>>85268110
French Army was full of africans.

>>85268120
you did it for the troops

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>screaming stukas
>germans would actually put sirens on their dive bombers for psychological effect

Well it sure work krautbros

>>85268110
Possibly since france used its colonies men as cannon fodder. No way of really knowing unless you dig up millitary records of every french soldier involved
>inb4 the anon with a touch of tism does this

>>85268110
given france's colonies i'm sure there would have been at least one token black man on that beach desu

>>85268110
There was 5 french colonial divisions in the pocket, two of which were mostly evacuated, 3 of which where captured/killed defending the pocket.

The Colonial units where mostly algerians and black Africans, and some french asians as well.

>>85268217
yeah, that was me yesterday.

I found 5 divisions that where in the pocket, and another 3 divisions at least that where mostly pressed south to northern france.

If people really want to know I can give you the unit names.

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>>85266988

People defending the pg13 bullshit. The only way lack of blood and actual war horrors is acceptable is if
>shit low budget b movie
>shitty war movie that is more of a comedy
Take your pick

>>85268209
big guy's pilot watch was pretty nice

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>>85268209
the Stuka bombing scenes instilled more fear in me than any horror film has.

Just imagine being on that beach, hearing the siren getting louder and louder. Hitting the deck and praying you don't get hit by a bombing run

It got really corny by the end.
>Hardy's 15 minutes flight after the engine stopped
>Newspaper column "Local Boy died like a Hero": literally fell down on a boat and didn't save anyone
>"I'm staying here for the French"
>blind old man with the blankets
>Brits welcoming those loser with the beer

>>85268333
>the only way you can show the horror and tension of war is by tons of gore and blood.

Fuck off with your cheap bait. The Stuka attacks were more horrifying then anything in Saving Private Ryan.

>>85268389
It's not corny, Brits just like treating their soldiers with respect.

>>85266615
Buchon and Bf 109 are identical you faggot, Buchon is just a revised version made for spain

>>85268110
France had a number of colonial divisions there so it wasn't just tossed in for no reason.

>>85263197
>durr hurr sit in boats: the movie
i don't get it?

>>85266909
You didn't answer his question, shitbrains

>>85266997
There had to be a scene to attract the Indian audience for maximum profits.

>>85268525
>treating cowards with respect

>>85266988
That was France anon, not Britain

>>85266909
you prove your own statement wrong

>>85268665
D U N K I R K

>>85263249
Saving Private Ryan is already the Kino of goresploitation, the horror of Dunkirk comes from the situations and death traps that the soldiers fell into

>>85267612
Same here, had two teenage girls behind me gossiping already before the movie starts.

>>85264429
Which one died though? Tommy and the asshole got on the boat and Gibson drowned in the trawler

>>85263197

How gory is it, like saving private ryan levels or the patriot levels?

>>85268694
I mean they didn't have to run away and just let Hitler win the war lol. Them running was the literal turning point of the war in their favour

>>85264462
>which used 3-D to explore the depths of brotherhood

Are you fucking kidding me?

>>85268808
you are right.

Then who died when he surfaced into the oil fire? Harry Richardson character?

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>Saw Dunkirk with my coworkers as a team outing (we all work in media in LA)
>Had the Kino experience one always hopes for when going to see Nolan (I liked Interstellar but it was far from what I was hoping it would be)
>After the film I rejoined my coworkers to see what they thought
>"Where was the story? There was no character development?"
>"It was so confusing, I didn't know what was going on!"
>"I can't believe they didn't refer to the Nazis as Nazis, they should have done more to vilify them"

I fucking hate California so much

>>85268837
It is not gory

just people downing, getting crushed,
and so on

>>85268998
>"Where was the story? There was no character development?"

well? it says you went to see a film but sounds more like a documenatry to me

>>85268994
I think it was just some random private

>>85263197
you know a movie is good when /tv/ calls it reddit

>>85268837
Realistic levels

>>85269066
The film isn't really about any one individual character but rather what they make up as a whole: the soldiers trying their hardest to escape France and the brave men (and Bane) that helped them.

>>85268333
i mean from the business perspective, which is the only real perspective, what does the movie benefit in audience appeal with adding a bunch of body parts everywhere? why not just emphasize the danger in a positional context, and make this more of a patriotic event of a movie anyone could go to, even one direction fans?

Should I see this in 70mm or on the ECKS DEE screen?

>>85268998
Except there was character development... the characters do go through visible changes in a realistic manner. And there was definitely a storyline, three as a matter of fact.

You should have told your coworkers to go watch Spiderman:Homecoming if they want some painfully contrived "muh character devlopemunt" and "muh story." They would probably get many laughs out of hearing MJ declaim slavery and characters talking about protesting being patriotic.

>"I can't believe they didn't refer to the Nazis as Nazis..."
I would literally rather kill myself than watch a film with a person who genuinely thinks like that.

>>85268694
>hurr durr lets all stay behind and get captured, then lose our entire country and army instead of falling back to fight another day

>>85269201
When you realize

bane was a pilot in WW2
he was captured at dunkirk after taking off the mask
They experimented on him and then dumped him in a hole
he became bane since he never wanted to take the mask off again.

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>>85269312
>I would literally rather kill myself than watch a film with a person who genuinely thinks like that.

I know this sounds crazy, but the person who said that was Jewish.

>>85269333
I still can't believe he crashed the plane with one survivor: himself[/spooiler].

>>85263197
Letters from Iwo Jima was better

>>85269445
He then used his flare gun to start the fire

They found one of them in the wreckage-brother

>>85264703
this

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>>85265225
finally someone fucking said it

>>85264702
No ones saying it's 'white power' you stupid nigger.
People are just happy to have a great film in 2017 that isn't politically loaded with anti-white propaganda and doesn't try to re-write history for the sake of some cultural marxist agenda.
It's refreshing.

I walked out of the theater wondering if Harry Styles finally managed to take that shit he was trying to take at the beginning.

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>>85267102
>gets pulled over for speeding
>officer says "good god man, you could kill someone"
>harris says "my dear fellow, i kill thousands every night"

B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>>85269664
That wasn't styles. Styles was the guy who got off the hospital ship

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>>85269201
why didn't Bane turn the plane around and land on the beach with all the British soldiers? he had enough altitude and airspeed to do it

>>85267123
The music fits in a lot of Nolan films, it surely did not work in this one; it took away more than it gave.

>>85269806
Probably cause the only English controlled area was full of soldiers and not fit for landing. The ship near the shore that the germans used for target practice was in german area.

>>85269798
Oh. He was fine I guess.

>>85269806
Probably lack of room on the beach for a safe landing + he would be cutting it close

>>85269806
He didn't want to risk botching the landing and getting random Brits killed, especially given his heroic sacrifice for them. If you remember the engine had run out of fuel, the plane was only running on its own momentum.

The other pilot (not Bane) was distractingly handsome.

>>85269948
Yep, he also needed time to lower the gear.

>>85267111
Do it again Bomber Harris.

>>85267111
a tale of a man who just wanted to be a farmer in southern Rhodesia but then it turned out he was really really good at bombing people

>>85269970
very nice eyes desu

>the characters weren't deep enough, I wanted backstory

the ultimate pleb filter

I actually welled up like a little bitch when Farrier shoots the final plane without any fuel left

http://www.strawpoll.me/13501029
strong kino/10

>>85265536
Do you suck your dad's dick on a daily basis?

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>>85263197
>#2 is hurrr durrr white males!
>muh j00z
>nazis dindunuffin

Why are /pol/beards so sensitive?

>>85263197
>"kike free"

Nolan has Jewish ancestry
Hans Zimmer has Jewish ancestry
Actor Aneurin Barnard is Jewish
Chief Graphic Artist James Thomaston (used for nearly all of Nolan's movies) is Jewish
Chief Cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema is Jewish
Produced by Warner Brothers which is owned by Jews

Anything that requires mental fortitude will often involve Jews, because they have the highest IQ's in the world.

>4chan thinks this is some redpilled masterpiece
>Mainstream "(((critics)))" meanwhile are hailing it as one of the greatest war films ever made, has a 95% rating on RT

rly makes me think about the /tv/ narrative

>>85268333
You probably think game of thrones is kino. Fuck off.

>Nimrod theme starts at end

;_;

>>85270588
This is one of those movies you can't bash, because it barely has any flaw, the critics who tried smashing it failed, and nearly all of them included "diversity" which doesn't work anymore.

>>85267111
>Just wanted to be a farmer in Rhodesia
>they said no
>So I killed Dresden

Still not as badass as green leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p1NRLFso6Q

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>>85264582
I'm going to assume you've never actually seen somebody get shot. Generally speaking, they don't immediately explode into a cloud of blood.

>>85270676
even the critics who talk about the lack of diversity still gave it praise. The famous "too many white men" review gave it 4.5/5 stars

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Biopic when? We need a Bomber Harris cinematic universe where he does it multiple times across multiple films

>>85270798
Bringing up "diversity" in a WW2 battle involving historically 99% white men is retarded, if they would give the rotten status due to this the blacklash they'd receive would be far worse, especially considering people are getting tired of SJWs.

>>85270790
They would if they were hit by airplane cannons, these aren't puny 9mm rounds

>>85270588
You say that like putting parentheses around "critics" is an argument, or evidence of anything other than the fact that you're a brainwashed moron from /pol/

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>"out of my way dresden fucking shits"

Has /pol/ infested that much of this site that any black person in a movie is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race? Get real, you paranoid fuck.

>>85263197
You know a lot of soldiers were drafted and had girlfriends/wives at home, right? And a lot of them were religious, meaning if those angles were portrayed for accuracy it would be bad and agenda pushing???

>>85268389
>Newspaper column "Local Boy died like a Hero": literally fell down on a boat and didn't save anyone

unironically kys

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>That 10 second shot of the hospital ship drifting towards the pier
>The screaming of the guy trapped
>Screaming becomes unbearable as the sound of bones crunching and a human body bursting can be heard

Anyone else surprised at how fucking short it was? I thought it was great, the pacing and the tone of the film perfectly fit the story, but I wanted at least another half hour

also were those the only three RAF pilots in the air at Dunkirk? I'm fairly certain it was a larger air conflict in real life

>>85270562
Nolan does not have jewish ancestry, and asians have higher iqs

>>85271093
2 hours and 20 mins

for modern standards it's on the long side. Modern audiences have very short attention spans and movies over 2 hours are thought to be on the longer side

>>85271093
The entire battle did not take part in shore, UK had about 100 aircrafts in this battle but most of them were out on the sea.

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>>85271115
No, look at Ashkenazi here

it's good you admit that whites are only a mid-tier race though

>>85271136
It was 2 hours flat though

>>85271093
RAF had like 400-500 fighters and over 100 bombers operating in Dunkirk, but giant air battles were a rarity in the early days of WW2.

>>85271093
yes, fighter command lost about half its total strength in france

Can't wait to see it.the seats are so comfy now I'll probably fall asleep.


fug

>>85271233
Luftwaffe lost 25% of its strength invading Poland

Just thought I'd throw that in.

>>85271180
It's a obvious known fact that being Jewish only means positives in almost everything. If you then can't get 4 extra IQ over whites you're truly a failure of a race, just look at the amount of jews in prestige schools, it doesn't add up by their IQ now does it?

>>85267064
And no one even realizes it.

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>>85271270
Enjoy it anon, especially if you're watching the 70mm version. You're in for a wild ride.

>>85271180
I dont think even white nationalists would deny east asian intelligence is higher than white

>>85271301
t. mental gymnastics

weird how you clutch at those IQ states so vigorously when it comes to blacks, but point out that Jews are higher and you sperg out and start making excuses

>>85271339
Cept that Asians don't have higher IQ, you might wanna do your research about IQ in asia before you start talking about it. IQ is overvalued in Asia and chinks tend to cheat in everything to get ahead.

>>85271376
I'm stating that for Jews having just +4 IQ points compared to Whites and also factoring in the population, it doesn't add up how much space they take at prestige Unis, it should be more like 90% white, which it isn't.

>>85263197
so, let me get this right, your pros are...
>it has a white male cast, no jews, no women, no romance, accurate depiction of weapons and vehicles, and it stars tom hardy
???

That's what it takes for you to call it "greatest war film"? you didn't even barely mention the plot, it's theme, whatever it tries to convey (is it about freedom? friendship? loyalty? patriotism?)
You're the worst film critic ever. Go finish high school nigga

>>85271068
What? Are you trying to imply that the boy did something else but taking a nap and wasting a space on a boat?

>>85271090
>muffled underwater screams in the mess hall after the torpedo
>the IMAX 70mm closeup on a 4 story tall screen of the soldier surfacing into the fire burning alive

>>85264411
> (The film’s opening epigraph refers to “The Enemy” instead of citing a nation, philosophy, or religion.)
so what the fuck, Germany is now literally Sauron?

Question for those who saw it

Was it hard to hear dialogue? Did it seem drowned out by all of the constant noise going on?
Did it seem a little too unnecessaryily bass heavy during times it was not needed?
The sound design was great, but im wondering if the mix was bad, or if it was just my theater that decided it would be cool to dial up the subs to 11.

Saw it in a fake IMAX screening by the way, which leads me to believe they turned the subs up loud just so we could feel the "superior IMAX speakers" but really it just drowned everything else out.

>>85267233
If you look up the real guy Kenneth Branagh's character was based on, he actually died during the evacuation from hypothermia after his ship sank and he told other ships to go pick up soldiers instead of him. Would have been much more interesting

>>85272574
The mix was good. I saw it in a fucking museum for IMAX 70mm.

>>85264582
>Whole theater was laughing.
Sure it was. Mine didn't. Neither did that of anyone else I know. But yours did. Here's your (you).

>>85272574
>Was it hard to hear dialogue? Did it seem drowned out by all of the constant noise going on?

I thought this too. I'm an American but I can and do watch many British shows without subtitles without problem so the accent wasn't the issue. The constant background score sometimes flooded out the voices. One of the few flaws I found in an otherwise superbly-made film

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>>85265572
>mfw I started to imagine all the dead bodies floating in the belly of the ship with ripped open abdomens leaking tea and chewed up toast.

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My mom wanted to stay after the ending in case there was an after credits scene.

>>85272634
So maybe it wasnt just my theater. I thought it was kind of odd. I understand if noise is supposed to drown out voices if its for a diagetic purpose, but almost throughout the whole movie, even scenes where there was no diagetic noise, it was sometimes hard to hear with constant low frequency rumbles and hits, and mid frequency instruments. As someone who works doing post audio they always say dialogue is king, and unless theres a reason for dialogue to be drowned out, it needs to be audible and easily distinguished. Makes me wonder how such a high budget film could have overlooked this. Then again, audio is usually the first thing overlooked from production, and then hastily attempted to be fixed in post. Still you'd figure the mix would feature the dialogue a little better, especially since there is so little of it.

>>85272574
I'm wondering the same. I saw it in an imax in Tempe. Was definitely hard to hear the dialogue many times.

>>85271629
Maybe it's more like the best war film in 2017

>>85265813
"reeee why werent there any planes doing loops and barrel rolls and firing non stop for minutes at a time?! Where was the hero main character sniping pilots from the side of the sinking ship!!?!?!"

Thought it was great but I somehow don't see it standing up well after it's left theaters. To me it felt more like an experience.

>>85264462
"Each face is expressionless."
No shit, they're british

>>85263732
Underrated

>>85265813

That's how I felt. The first half of the movie was pretty boring and depressing.

>>85273037

Yeah I don't think I'll watch it more than once

>>85270895
What plane shot them? Early Stukas use rifle caliber. A bf109 might get some 20mm cannon on then though.

Wish I walked out of Dunkirk liking it more than I did but in the end I thought it was alright. The editing didn't do it many favours at times and for some strange reason I ended up feeling rather empty once it was all said and done. Hans Zimmer is the film composer of modern minimalist electro pop.

>>85273706
shoulda got Reznor

>>85263247
Can someone please create a version of the "everyone I don't like is a Nazi" image, with a "everything I don't like is pandering to Reddit" logo? I feel like we are in a seryously need of one of these.

10/10

This is what a great war movie looks like when you cut all the excess fat. A real man's war movie.

>>85273706
yeah me too. Really well-made, superbly-produced and acted film, but I didn't leave thinking it lived up to the unnecessary amount of hype I gave it personally. But that's my own fault

>>85274084
>superbly acted
I mean, not really

>>85264411
>>85264462
>>85264490

What a tremendous faggot. The National Review was a mistake.

>>85265394

I have a pain in my neck now from how tense I was watching that shit. I think my back touched the seat twice during the entire movie.

>>85274157

The performances were perfectly serviceable for sure but it's the film's own fault at the end of the day, the characters are more based around their actions rather than personalities, so you never really get to give the actors the room to show more than a few traits. Its great for the narrative, but the idea that there is masterful acting in Dunkirk doesn't hold water.

>>85270195

For me it was when the boats all showed up and the music started playing.

I lost concentration when the ship they were waiting on for the tide to come in, did that frog end up drowning trying to get off?

>>85264942
>kubrick
>""indie""

>>85266953
>elected

Nice reading you did there

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Two of my great grandfathers were at Dunkirk, one on the beach and the other flying top cover in a Spitfire, so I probably have a biased opinion of the movie. The Merlin engines tho, hearing those gives me a fuzzy.

Mfw I'll never die gloriously behind the stick of a burning Spitfire, diving on a HE-111.

>>85271284
Yeah. I imagine most of the Luftwaffe was still very green. They sure as shit stepped up in France though.

>>85265394
>Those ear splitting dive bombing sequences
>The sound of the wood on the pier and on the ships cracking as torpedoes and bombs make a direct impact
>The spitfires machine guns

Pure kino in the sound department