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LOTR: The 2 Towers

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>it is likely that we go to our doom..THE LAST MARCH OF THE ENTS
>not even one ent dies

uhm..drama queen much?
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>>85243947
>not even one ent dies

Source?
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>>85244014
if it's not shown then it didn't happen
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Have you read the books? The Ents are the most melodramatic fuckers ever. They spend pages and pages rambling about whether or not they're going to do shit.
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>>85244014
only one ent gets slightly injured by fire but he puts the fire out in water and is fine again.
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The ents were old and few. They legitimately believed they were weak before they got woke to Saruman.
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>>85243947
>>85244048
>>85244119
Don't several get swept away by the water?
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Isn't that the point of the Ents? They make a mountain out of a molehill, so to speak.
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Probably assumed that Saruman wouldn't have left his entire fortress only defended by like 100 orcs
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>>85245435
im sure some will also die of old age later on, but thats not what i meant.
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>>85243947
he says that because he didn't know Saruman would be completely weakened by spending all his magic on raising Uruk armies. It's explained in the movie if you paid attention. Had Saruman been at full strength, he could have just come out of the tower and solo'd the ents.
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>>85245540
I can't even disagree with the dude, really, he's not doing anything wong, you should care about your ethnic interests.
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>>85245643
Right, but white people aren't allowed to care about their ethnic interests

Despite us being an actual minority in the world because we don't breed like the savages do
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>>85245844
I know, I know. Honestly, I'd still punch him in the face. Still, not wrong, I just wish we did the same.
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>>85245867
That's the only reason I'm pissed off really, it is perfectly natural to improve conditions for your tribe and therefore your race as they share your blood

But in these unequal times we just lose all our rights and get told we are privileged. I've lost lots of friends to arguments about what exactly we are privileged about. I personally have been dirt poor my entire life

In short, fuck that uppity nigger
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>>85245643
>>85245844
>>85245867
>>85245968

Based pedes, don't lose hope.

We must keep redpilling the normies and fighting the SJWs.

We will win the culture war.

Trump will save our people.
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>>85243947

to be fair it still made for a fucking sweet ass scene, mostly thanks to the absolutely glorious music.
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>>85245609
Fucking Ents jumping my boy Saruman when he is out of mana.
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>>85246030
yeah, goose bump inducing, still kinda funny when you notice it.
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>>85245609
>>85245499
this, Saruman was way more powerful back in Ent's day.
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>>85246004
What does pedes mean? I see you keep saying it.
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>>85246075
it means please be patient, he has autism
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>>85245609
>Saruman
>some Maia that had barely been on Middle Earth since the 3rd Age
>being stronger than the Treebeard the Eldest, over 15,000 years older and the oldest living creature in Middle Earth
>let alone stronger than Treebeard and an entire army of Ents and Huorns

Treebeard would've jobbed his bitch ass.
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>>85246075
means he's false flagging as a /pol/ack
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>>85243947
Uhhh they literally stumble upon a so-called massacre where a huge chunk of the forest is decimated
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>>85246004
>>85246075
It means homosexuals in French.
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>>85246332
Treebeard was invented by someone like Suraman
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Why didn't the Ents send trees to Minas Tirith?
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>>85245540
but there are black "people" in the show
eyebrow's advisor/translator and her head soldier guy
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>>85243947
Isengard was empty but the ents didn't know this. 10,000 uruks would have made the ents into fire wood
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>>85245540
>there are not a single nigger in lorth of the rings
what are orcs?
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>>85245540
>dwarves
>elves
>hobbits
>orcs
>men
what the fuck is he talking about? there are heaps of different "types of people" in lotr
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>Saruman and Sauron have massive armies while humanity is divided, elves are too few and dwarves are awol so how will our heroes surmount these odds?
>suddenly Merry and Pippin stumble upon ancient tree giants capable of wiping out Saruman on their own
Bravo Tolkein.
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>>85245609
>it's a "wizards are superstrong they just never show their powerlevel" episode
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>>85246978
When they were in their Ainur form, maybe. But Saruman as a Wizard is leagues beneath Treebeard.
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>>85247271
You are forgetting that Saruman expected to completely roll Rohan at the Hornburg and already had his sights set on Gondor before getting completely BTFO by Gandalf
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How could they die when Galadriel was riverdancing around them?
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What exactly was the Ents tax policy?
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>>85245540
>I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on screen
>what the fuck, no way he said that, literally sounds like /pol/ bait
>google it
yep, he a hood nigga
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>>85247561
I don't think the Ents know what tax is
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>>85243947
For all he knew he was wandering into a hornets nest. Luckily all the Uruk-hai had marched off, leaving only workers and a small garrison.
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>>85245609
When is this implied? Saruman was a scientist and a natural orator, he didn't put any of his essence in his soldiers like Morgoth. He might have fed their rage with magic and clever rhetoric but nothing beyond that.
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>>85247561
they gave 20% of accorns to Treebeard
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>>85247306
That's pretty much been a staple in all Wizard stories.

Wizards tend to have a lot of enemies, and a lot of people just tend to hate wizards and magic in general.(in fantasy stories)

Best to keep ones wizardry power level hidden.
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>>85246332
IIRC in the book Saruman does cook an ent to a crisp with his staff, and unleashes some kind of subterannean device that spews out liquid fire. Though that only served to piss the rest of the ents off, and he was almost caught by another ent before making it to Orthanc.
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>>85245609
>Gandalf could've defeated all Orcs by himself, but he didn't wanted to!
>Saruman could've soloed Rohan, Gondor and Ents, but he decided to create Uruks for fun and spent his mana :(
>Tom Bombadil is the most powerfull being alive, but he doesn't give a fuck
>Eagles can eat Nazgul's alive, but they are proud beings that don't meddle with human bussines
maaaan, Tolkien was full of shit
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>>85247936
Tolkien knew how to create an engaging world with characters and forces in it that weren't entirely bent to the will of the single story he wanted to tell.
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>>85246533
this was before he said the line and also no real ents but trees.
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>>85247936
>Gandalf could've defeated all Orcs by himself, but he didn't wanted to!
Nowhere is this implied.
>Saruman could've soloed Rohan, Gondor and Ents, but he decided to create Uruks for fun and spent his mana :(
This is a perfectly acceptable explanation.
Again, never once implied.
>Eagles can eat Nazgul's alive, but they are proud beings that don't meddle with human bussines
It's simpler then that, the eagles simply don't care. Gwaihir only helps as a favor to Gandalf for saving his ass a long time ago. Gwaihir is also an Eagle king, Gandalf can't just tell him to do shit.
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>>85248130
>Again, never once implied
was meant for
>>Tom Bombadil is the most powerfull being alive, but he doesn't give a fuck
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>>85248147
Wasn't Tomb Bombadil extremely powerful but he couldn't leave his place?
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>>85248130
>eagle king
how come I can't take titles like these seriously? Same thing with Treebeard. Tolkien sucked at giving titles to characters. they all sound so adorable when they are supposed to be majestic and ancient.
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>>85245609
>Saruman would be completely weakened by spending all his magic on raising Uruk armies
That is literally not even implied ever in the movies.
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>>85248147
>>85248192
Reminder that Tom Bombadil and the Witch King are the same person.

Get woke: http://flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/bombadil.htm
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>>85243947
He didnt know isengard only had a skeleton crew at the time and thought he was walking into a death trap.
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>>85248130
>hey eagles, if you don't help us, Sauron will conquer Middle Earth, and then he will fuck you too!
>Haha, fuck you whitey with yo whitey problems
so eagles are actually niggers of Middle Earth, gotcha
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Why didn't Frodo just ride the ents to Mordor?
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>>85247825
Saruman uses his magic to create Uruks and actively control them you dingus. It's stated multiple times in the film.
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>>85248192
Tom can do whatever he wants. His only upper limit is what he imposes on himself.
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>>85248434
his magic semen you mean, he personally fucked Orcs to create Uruks, read the books dummy
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>>85248227
Eagle King isn't a name, it's just that he's literally king of the eagles. His name is Gwaihir.
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>>85248542
like a gipsy king, right?
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>>85247271
His army wasn't there. Saruman would have been fine if he wasn't attacking Rohan at the same time.
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>>85248571
No. The gypsies recognise no monarch.
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>>85245540
and that's why GOT and LOTR are successful.
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>>85248487

Uruks were created by Sauron in the books
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Why were there no black trees?
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>>85248763
Exactly. Uruks were always around.
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>>85248434
It never shows him using ANY magic. He just wanders down into his mud-hole and these swole hybrid mud-babies start popping outta the walls.
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>>85248434
The first uruks appeared out of Mordor in attacks on Gondor in T.A. 2475

you stupid fucking idiot.
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>>85243947
Shitpost, but it is meant poetically. This was to be their last major undertaking as a race.
>>85244014
Ent casualties are depicted accurately in the films: Beechbone received serious burns and no one else had much more than a broken limb.
>>85244069
>melodramatic
Verbose. They are very clearly immune to drama; Treebeard needed to be among certain tree remains to be enraged enough to attack Isengard.
>>85245382
Very correct. They hadn't fought since the end of the Second Age.
>>85245609
Nah. He would have easily chanted down most of them, but Treebeard would have then likely revealed some deep magic innate to the timeless things of Middle Earth. Saruman is very explicitly portrayed to be deep in the "magics" of speech and craft, choosing to max charisma rather than wisdom, so to speak.
>>85247561
Acorns for acreage in barter form is likely the only economics that enter into their lives.
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>>85248911
Forgot to namefag
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>>85245540
>Avatar, Titanic, LotR, GoT

Whoa, it's almost like most people don't give a shit about "diversity" or something.
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>>85248911
>Very correct. They hadn't fought since the end of the Second Age
whom did they fight then and how did the fight go
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>>85248887
Yeah you faggot fucking bitch shit cunt retard.
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>>85243947

In the book it is mentioned that just one ent died, burnt by some contraption, which Merry and Pippin described just served to piss off the ents even further, as in "We thought they were mad before but then holy shit!"
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>>85249073
>gets btfo
>has no comeback
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>>85249030
Orcs under the resurgence of Sauron at the time of the Last Alliance were so ubiquitous as to inspire equity with the Turks in the Balkans during the 17th century. Fangorn was much bigger then, and large armies would get too near and learn lessons. This is all taken from just a few sentences in the Unfinished tales and the Silmarillion
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>>85243947

>>it is likely that we go to our doom..THE LAST MARCH OF THE ENTS
>not even one ent dies

This is my main problem with TTT and to a lesser extent ROTK.

Everynody talks doom and gloom but in every major battle the good guys roll the opposition and the bad guys get btfo. Its boring.
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>1280x720
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>>85249095
kek is tht really the same guy
anyone else we know dead in that room?

>>85249125
what are you talking about, the rohanese get absolute shat on at helms deep, literally every single elf is killed, even that kid who aragorn told there was always hope definitely died and the other kid throwing rocks from the walls died too since like only 9 people made it back to the keep once the uruks broke through
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>>85249125
do the good guys lose any battles in the books? besides osgiliath I mean. I can't remember.
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>>85248409
>continent of africa ravaged by civil war
>white people and asian people making bank by profiting of their killing
>but black people are the niggers
rly tickles the old brain cage
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>>85249160
oh wow they suffered casualties in those battles they won. Anon btfo, it's back to the drawing board for him
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>>85249231
yes it is since his point about rolling the opposistion was proved wrong you girl
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>>85249207
why is it ravaged by civil war tho
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>>85249160

Only one that's confirmed by name is Balin, the tomb in the middle of that room was his.
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>>85249266
colonialism caused by white people
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>>85249323
might is right. be glad for that humanitarian dosh you ungrateful little nigger.
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>>85249207
Implying black people haven't been slaughtering and enslaving each other and other peoples since the beginning of time.
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>>85249323
5/10 nice attempt guy. Next time don't mention the Asians. Only a polack would know about the shit they get up to in African
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>>85249356
you mean like the people in middle earth?
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>>85249095
>realise you look like a fucking retard with the bowlcut+braids hairstyle and that's why you're still a virgin
>beard has finally started filling in though, at the ripe age of 100, so decide to shave your head completely and rock a long beard
>get killed by filthy goblins before you ever get to see a lady-dwarf again, dying while writing your diary, like a true virgin

Worst dwarf.
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>>85249356
The people we think of today as "Africans" are in fact all Bantu, who were originally confined to a small part of West Africa but expanded over millenia to the whole continent via genocide of native peoples, such as the Khoisan, whose extermination in South Africa continues to this day.
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>>85249670

Are the Khoi-San civilized and pacific though? All the photos I've seen of them they look barely human, I guess that can be easily explained if they're not very abundant anymore.
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>>85249670
whatta cutie
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>>85249787
>Are the Khoi-San civilized and pacific though?
Are the Bantoids who genocided them in their migrations? I have no idea what pictures you're talking about, my point is that "black Africans" have been exterminating distinct peoples for thousands of years, but act innocent and cry foul when Europeans show up and they're the ones being subjugated.
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saruman was a paper tiger like Iraq

when the US and British tanks made their little blitzkreig through the iraqi desert in 1991 they expected to face a soviet-tier force and possiblely suffer very heavy casualities(like entire battalions destroyed heavy)

but when the actual advance happened the US 1st Cav Division destroyed 396 Iraqi tanks with only 4 tanks lost themselves
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>>85248390
Really activates my almonds
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>>85245540
>the day /tv/ made another enemy.
Just let Poe say Trump is retarded and its going to be 3 out of 3.
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>>85250022

oh, I'm aware of the Africans hipocrisy, I just don't know much of the Khoi-San specifically.
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>>85250113
>but when the actual advance happened the US 1st Cav Division destroyed 396 Iraqi tanks with only 4 tanks lost themselves

how is this possible, are the iraqi tanks that bad?
or were they just horribly trained and organised
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>>85250164
1. he was never /ourguy/
2. black people have somewhat of a right to complain, unlike white cucks
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>>85250227
>dahomey
this gets me every time
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>>85243947
But it really was the last march of the ents. Before that moment most ents had already turned immobile, more tree-like.

This was the last time most of them moved anywhere and after these events, they fell into slumber and forgot about the world, turning into regular trees.
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>>85245609
explains how he was BTFO'd by some hobo
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>>85250246
>black people have somewhat of a right to complain
No, they don't.
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>>85250365
It's natural to feel left out when you're a minority.
For example, I think incels and "real nerds" are misrepresented in the media, and screech every time I see an autistic savant on tv, or a "lonely" chad/girl, or an autistic historical figure like Newton represented as Chad. That doesn't mean I want a dozen token robots in every show it's just a natural reaction.
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>>85247825
He was some sort of treasure hunter. Alot of his magic was used in creating / finding magic items. Another good portion of his magic was used in mind controlling like half of middle earth.
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>>85250553
>It's natural to feel left out when you're a minority.
alright i have a solution for them: go somewhere where they arent a minority.
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>>85247597
Why are black people so racist?
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>>85250243
Read up on tank warfare. Yes, being out-gunned and out-armoured in armoured warfare is a BIG damn problem. This is why WW2 had such a crazy arms race between axis and allies with both sides constantly rolling out new tanks and guns throughout the war. If you can't penetrate the other guy's front armor, you're gonna have a bad time.
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>>85250553
I don't really care about that, what I want is to destroy the Bantu image of victimhood wherever I find it, by showing people that in fact they were bloodthirsty killers who have been practicing genocide since the beginning of time.
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>>85245540
>period piece from 1700's feudal Japan
N-not p-paying for that shit!
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>>85250243
>how is this possible, are the iraqi tanks that bad?

they were modern-ish T-55s and T-62s. not a complete match for an Abrams or Challenger but not helpless in the right hands especially given their numerical advantage in some battles like 73 Easting(which ended in a 160 to 0 US victory)

>or were they just horribly trained and organised

that is the crux of the issue and why the iraqi military looked menacing on paper(due to sheer size) but failed completely on every front almost instantly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBG_G678Trg
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>>85250930
> but not helpless in the right hands especially given their numerical advantage
lel
If shit ever hits the fan in NK you will see the same thing all over again. Not one will make it past the border. Outdated tanks are sitting ducks no matter how organized they are.
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>>85251168
>*tanks without air-superiority are sitting ducks no matter how organized they are.
FTFY
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mightiest servant of Sauron incoming, here to fuck shit u- nvm im dead
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>>85251412
I mean, he was a major terror for three straight movies. He crippled the ringbearer and killed the king of Rohan. What more could you want?
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>>85251168
It's not even really the issue. Older tanks are certainly (mechanically) capable of achieving kills. It's really the nature of doing it in an open landscape, against countries with modern scouting and intel. The tank ambush tactics of yesteryear don't work so good when your enemy has IR, drones, satellite, etc
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>>85251168

training, training, training

that is why Iraq can lose M1A1s to ISIS and why Israel defeated T-62s with a tank designed in 1945(the Centurian)

the same is true in the air. in 1982 the Argentinians only made one attempt to rest control of the air from the Royal Navy and that ended with a Mirage III getting ignominiously shot down by a Sea Harrier despite the Mirage being a better aircraft with better missiles that should have shot down the harrier without contest
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>>85249304
how the fuck did he live 77 more years post-TBotFA?
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>>85251471

I was expecting some more stuff along the lines of LOTR 1 intro, where Sauron swings his mace around like the final boss of middle earth.

He basically had no screentime until that deleted scene where he talks to Gandald and then dies to the woman.
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>>85252013

Dwarves live for literally hundreds of years on Tolkien's stories, humans did too at first, Aragorn is 87 at the time of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but his people had vanished, he was basically the last of the Numenorian.

Other folk like regular humans and hobbits had normal lifespans.
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>>85252055
You realise he's still the Witch King before he wears the helmet, right? He's in all the movies, he's just visually the same as the other wraiths until RotK. He's the one who stabs Frodo on Weathertop, for example.
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>>85252130

Right, so I rewatched that scene and the wraiths all get scared away. Was he simply not of a high enough level of power during earlier stages of the story, seeing how his power grew with Sauron's?
Because for someone considered to be unkillable he seemed to have little influence, hence the shitpost.

I just thought someone like a witch king would cause devastation before his death.
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>>85251883
this reminds me of something I've always wondered. As you said, the mirage is much better on paper than the harrier. In that case, why did bongs even risk their harriers like that? From their perspective wouldn't it have been like condemning those pilots to death?. Sending them against proper fighters like that.
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>>85252452
He was all hype. Lied to Sauron on his cv
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>>85243947
He wasn't saying they would all die. Just that this was the last time they would march to battle.
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>>85252535

exactly. what a swindler
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>>85252452
The wraiths lose power the further they are from Sauron. All the way on the other side of the continent, fighting the rightful king of Gondor, and already having dealt the ringbearer a rightfully fatal wound, they retreat.
So yeah, pretty much - his power level was still too low at that point.
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>>85252472
>why did bongs even risk their harriers like that? From their perspective wouldn't it have been like condemning those pilots to death?. Sending them against proper fighters like that.


risking a few Sea Harriers is better than leaving an entire carrier group undefended plus they spent the whole war defending the taskforce and all the fighting was from argentine aircraft "coming to them" so to speak

they could have been shot down if they got in a full scale carrier vs. carrier action with the ARA 25 De Mayo but british nuclear submarines sank the Belgrano and scared the entire Argentine Navy back into port before that could happen
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>>85253124
We fucked 'em so hard that we can't go there on holiday anymore or we get shanked.
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>>85245609
The wizards arrived in Middle Earth cucked out of their native Maiar powers from the get-go you fucking retard nigger. Their bodies were actual physical bodies they were "trapped" in. They had no ability to shapeshift and do whatever vaugery power magic you're refering to.

Even Sauron in his hayday had no real feats other than singing and shapeshifting. And he got pwned by things much physically weaker than ents. Fuck, even at the height of his power, wielding the ring, he got smoked by a couple of kings.
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>>85245643

Guess he should rent some African movies then
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>>85246004
Kill yourself
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>>85246004
>falseflag redditor shits up the thread again
Why are you so obvious?
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>>85250553
>you're a minority
Asia
4,307,107,875
60.3%
Africa
1,037,524,058
14.5%
Europe
816,426,346
11.4%
North America
544,620,340
7.6%
South America
400,067,694
5.6%
Oceania
35,426,995
0.5%
Antarctica
1,169
0.00002%
Total
7,141,174,477
100.0%
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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