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why doesn't Sauron try harder to get the ring from Frodo? 2017-07-20 06:56:04 Post No. 85219062
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why doesn't Sauron try harder to get the ring from Frodo?
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The Black Riders start off looking for "Baggins" in the "Shire," but do they know that this Baggins has the One Ring? By the time of the attack at Weathertop, surely they understand that, right? So then Arwen saves Frodo, and the Riders are washed down the river. Okay, fine, but at this point why doesn't Sauron put all his energy into finding and taking the Ring? He knows where it is, and surely his military forces can defeat the relatively smaller forces at Rivendell. Yes, I know that at Rivendell at this time are three of the most powerful "good" characters (Elrond, Gandalf, and Aragorn), and I understand that the logistics of moving a large army on short notice are problematic, but I can't imagine that Sauron really would just sit by, if he knew where the Ring was.
Then, as the Fellowship is traveling south, they are spied on (by birds), attacked (by orcs and wargs), turned back by a snowstorm on Caradhras, and finally attacked by orcs and the Balrog in Moria. But all these seem like half-measures. Were the orcs (in either case) sent by Sauron? Did they know the people they were attacking had the Ring? It sure seems not. Did the Balrog just happen to be there, or was he specifically sent to help capture the Ring? Why didn't Sauron have forces ready to grab the Ring, before or after the Fellowship's stay in Lorien?
If I recall correctly, between the Black Rider's temporary defeat near Rivendell, and Frodo leaving the Fellowship after Boromir's attack, Sauron does absolutely nothing to try to recover the Ring, Is that a fair interpretation of the book or the movie? If so, how can it be explained? Is it a defect in the plot, or am I missing something?
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>>85219062
Sauron isn't omnipotent. After the black riders got washed away at Rivendell it took them a long time to report back to him. Plus in the meantime, he was focusing on the various battles going on in the south.
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>>85219175
Or rather I should say omniscient. Also, the orcs in Moria were not part of the Mordor army. Pretty sure the orcs that killed Boromir were part of Saruman's forces.
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why does the almighty withcking of agmar literally have 2 min screentime and die?
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>>85219479
Saruman still answered to Sauron, at least in the films.
In the book it's clear he plans to turn on Sauron once he gets the ring
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>>85219479
Am I wrong in thinking Moria orcs/goblins don't like being out in the sunlight? That's one of the reason the Urukhs were groomed as the new fighting force.
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>>85219644
He's still double crossing Sauron in the movies too. I agree that could have been made more clear though.
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>>85219687
thats exactly what the book says. Sauruman's orcs can fight in the sun while Saurons can't
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>>85219062
>He knows where it is
He literally does not, only that a Hobbit carries it
>surely his military forces can defeat the relatively smaller forces at Rivendell
His forces are nowhere near Rivendell. Closest he has is Dol Guldur and that is occupied by a war with Mirkwood elves.
>they are spied on (by birds)
>attacked (by orcs and wargs)
>turned back by a snowstorm on Caradhras
All under Saruman's, not Sauron's control
>finally attacked by orcs
Goblins
>and Balrog
independant
>Did the Balrog just happen to be there, or was he specifically sent to help capture the Ring?
Read a wiki or something
>Why didn't Sauron have forces ready to grab the Ring, before or after the Fellowship's stay in Lorien?
Because you don't march into a forest full of elves.
>am I missing something?
A brain and understanding of Tolkien
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>>85220003
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