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Yikes!
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This isn't really yikes. This is just bullshit to make non-news feel like news. It already made it's money. It's got great reviews. It's going to be around for 5 more years
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>>85198996
Raimi's last Spidey only came out 10 years ago and ASM 1 and 2 were shit, nobody wants more Spiderman, give it a few decades
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>>85198996
Why do they keep using that pic? Do they not care how poorly absolutely everything in it is rendered? Maybe if the colors weren't washed out it wouldn't be as noticeable. Notice how Raimi's Spider-Man is darker in color but since everything isn't washed out it still manages to look more vibrant?
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>>85199032
This is a flop. It stars RD Guaranteed Billion J and has every "critic" blatantly shilling for it and the biggest marketing campaign ever. Heads will roll for this.
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>>85199093
You're describing contrast anon.
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>>85198996
>cgi suit
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>>85198996
>movie makes 4x its budget

>HURR DURR FLOP

you guys just like complaining
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>>85199032
its making less than Dr.Strange, Dr.Fucking Strange. China's hollywood quota has been filled, Spider Man is fucked
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>>85199102
It's the third new spiderman movie in 10 years and it made 240 mil total which is already more than the Garfield ones made in total. Your fantasies about marvel failing are misguided
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>>85199215
Those films atleast had Sony keeping the toys income. They aren't even allowed that here. Also nobody said the Garfield films were a success.
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>>85199316
Ugh, this is like arguing with a child. Go find someone else to convince dude, there's going to be another spiderman in 2 years. and another one 2 years after that. deal with it
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>>85199357
Yeah I know it will and its fate will be as a second-class MCU superhero. RDJ is his daddy now.
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>>85199443
k. gonna leave the thread now
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>>85199093
Your counter to one shitty picture is another shitty picture?
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>>85199526
How is film shitty compared to MCU disgusting digital?
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SpiderFlop SpiderFlop
JUST look at that weekend drop
Losing money? Holy Cow
Not even China can save it now
LOOK OUT! Here comes the SpiderFlop
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DChads win again
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>>85199498
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>>85198996
BASED
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>>85199176

>production budget $175 million

>domestic $220,267,368 million

>worldwide $480,340,047 milion

>175x4=$700 million

Are you a time traveller?

Not even considering marketing, foreign profit cuts, the fact a above 90% RT score Spider-Man movie advertised with Iron Man isn't breaking any franchise, MCU, or noteworthy Hollywood box office records or showing any special weekend legs.
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The swedpajeetio neet is awake!
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>>85199659
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>>85198996
I don't see how, it's the best MCU film since Avengers
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how
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>>85198996
...By like a percentage point. While being the first MCU movie to face actual blockbuster competition in its second weekend, sharing significant demo crossover with War for the Planet of the Apes. Non-news. Yawn.

The film has been performing uncommonly well on weekdays. Yesterday for example it grossed $7.5 mil, which when compared against other MCU second-Tuesday grosses is (I believe) second to only The Avengers ($8.5 mil). No other MCU films have performed nearly this well on weekdays.

Try looking at all the facts, not just clickbait bullshit.

>>85199102
You're not smart.

>>85199182
>$60 million lead
>making less
>hurr durr

As bored as I am by the MCU and capeshit in general, and as much as I'd like to see these movies challenged at the box office by more interesting films, desperately trying to force a narrative like this just makes you look stupid. The movie is doing well, especially given that it's the third iteration of Spider-Man in 15 years and this isn't even the character's first appearance in the MCU. In only its second weekend the film had already surpassed the total gross (domestic) of the last Spider-Man film. That's a success. Accept it. Move on.
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>caring about box office outside of the first week
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>>85202156
Oh, and forgot to point out that the film's second weekend drop is comparable to Civil War, Iron Man 3 and Avengers 2, meaning that percentage is consistent with the performances of three highest grossing films in the MCU outside of The Avengers. Again, non-news.
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>>85202357
If you don't care about box office outside of the first week, why pretend to care at all? In order to properly measure interest/trends and industry impact, you need to look beyond just the opening weekend performance.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opened to $92 million, a $30 million improvement on its predecessor.

...And yet it ultimately wound up grossing $60 million less than its predecessor overall, hence why Sony made a deal with Marvel to add the character to the MCU instead of continuing its ailing franchise.

The long haul matters.
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>>85199659
Laughed out loud IRL
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>mfw this movie is the Feige/Pascal version Batman v Superman
>mfw it makes less than the original BvS with more popular characters and the entire internet shilling for them
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>>85202753
b-but why didn't superman throw zod into spess?
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>>85199032

It hasn't made any money yet. Since we know that its marketing was huge (140mil+) and studios only get 50% and less in foreign it hasn't made any profit
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>>85202753
no Spider-Man film has grossed over a billion... two Batman films have grossed over a billion...


>Spider-Man is more popular than Batman
>Homecoming should be making more than Batman v Superman
>I'm a retard ignore me
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>>85202753

Batman and Superman are literally 2 of the top 3 most popular superheroes though.How they managed to make a Spidey movie bomb like this beyond me though.
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>>85203002

I forget that Marvel is popular except when it conveniently isn't
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>>85203002
Forgetting someone shill?
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>>85203099

Marvel and Sony were banking on this earning a billion. They tried everything to make it happen. Anyone who says other wise is delusional
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>>85203041
literally what are you trying to communicate here

Spider-Man not hitting the same box office highs as Batman doesn't mean Marvel isn't popular

stop being willfully dense
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>>85203166

Spider-man and Iron man are huge. This is a failure. Stop being an apologist
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>>85203137
Worse than delusional, they are dishonest. These are the SAME FUCKING SHILLS that were claiming that both GotG2 and this piece of shit were going to make sure billions not three months ago.

They were the ones who said this movie was Marvel's Batman v Superman because Iron-Man and Spider-Man are on the same level of popularity too, when they were sure it was going to make more than BvS.
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>spider-man 6
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>>85203225

This. People like this cunt >>85203166 are complete scum
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>>85203225
>Marvel's Batman vs Superman

That's Civil War
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>>85198996
>first week wasn't even enough to pay RDJ's salary

Kek, think they'll kill him off and put in that black girl with the huge afro in the comics as his replacement?
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>>85203319

Civil War is an Avengers movie
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>>85203319
>CW: +8 characters with previous introductory/origin movies
>BvS: 1 character with previous introductory/origin movie
'no'
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>>85203348
It's a Captain America movie

>>85203369
What are you even trying to say?
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>>85202792
because the lasers would hit someone, if he flew up in a straight line, those lasers would've hit someone
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>>85203385
Just proving to you that Civil War is an Avengers/Justice League movie and Homecoming is Marvel's BvS
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>>85203433
Just because Homecoming shows Ironman?
Civil War has the entire main characters fighting against each other and realizing they've been tricked in the end thing.
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Spider-Man is Marvel's most bankable product, it takes some real skill to make it flop
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>>85203385

Its a "please help me make money Tony!" Movie. Didn't Iron Man get top billing in that "cap," movie?
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>>85203470
>Just because Homecoming shows Ironman?
Damn right.

BvS: it has one established character (Superman) and serves as an origin story for another one (Batman). Movie focused in the two most popular characters of the franchise together
Homecoming: it has one established character (Iron Man) and serves as an origin story for another one (Spider-Man). Movie focused in the two most popular characters of the franchise together
Avengers/Civil War(Avengers 2.5)/Justice League: a bunch of already established characters with solo/origin movies before ensembled together

Sorry shill, your feefees can't change facts
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>>85198996
this looks like a ps3 video game lmfao
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>>85201151
Marketing is allegedly the biggest ever for a capeshit at $140m
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>>85202156
>sharing significant demo crossover with War for the Planet of the Apes.
Homecoming is aimed at kids, Apes is aimed at the 24-35 demo
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The marvelpajeets are seething right now. Stop shilling now motherfucker and accept that your shitty movie is a flop.
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>>85203592

How fucking desperate do shills have to be to blame Planet of the Apes? They're critical darlings with a loyal following but they aren't smash hits like Pirates of the Caribbean.
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>>85199176
4x its budget is BREAKING EVEN
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>>85198996
>Marvel has Spiderman back, along with the merchandise profits
>even by getting him in the MCU, Sony's only profits from this deal, the box office, is coming down
KEKED
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>>85203551
>Sorry shill, your feefees can't change facts
asking questions makes you a shill now...
Both movies have a lot of parallels and when they came out they were compared to each other a lot.
Even if Marvel intended Homecoming to be Bvs it has way more similarities to Civil War.
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>>85203099
>>85203193
>>85203225
>>85203282
how are you people this retarded?

Nobody but the biggest autists confused the film for an Iron Man movie, it was very clear that he'd only be there for a few scenes in a supporting capacity. This isn't even the first time they've showed up on screen together, the novelty of that passed with Civil War. Plus this is the 8th time RDJ has appeared in an MCU film. He was hardly the main attraction here.

BvS was the first time Batman and Superman were onscreen together in a film, and it was a showdown movie. Anyone who thinks that's comparable to the 6th Spider-Man film (i.e., 3rd version in 15 years) with a special appearance by RDJ as Iron Man (who's already shown up in 7 other MCU films)... well, there's no point trying to reason with you. You're a lost cause.

Neither Marvel nor Sony were banking on a billion dollar Spider-Man movie. NO SPIDER-MAN FILM HAS CROSSED THE BILLION DOLLAR MARK. If they were actually shooting for that they would've upped the scale big time, not put Parker up against a small-time thief with not even a hint of an end-of-the-world conflict to be resolved.

And for the record, I could not give less of a shit about Marvel's success/failure (I already said I'm bored by the MCU). The sole reason I'm commenting is because box office performance & the reasons behind it interest me. I've never even commented in a 4chan thread about Marvel before, and probably won't again because you mongs are fucking brain dead.
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>>85198996

I'm gonna see it this weekend.
Hope its not as sjw filled with niggers as I've read.
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>>85202792
Why didn't he cover his eyes/force his eyelids closed?
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Just doing some math. Production + Budget is 315mil

50% of current domestic is 110
40% of foreign (Putting percentage at the high end because I'm not sure) 104

110+104 = 214

Homecoming has to make another 101 mil before it's making profit. That's if I'm right about the foreign take and if Marvel aren't lying about the marketing budget.
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>>85203649

Similarities in what? That they came at the same time and had heroes versus heroes?
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>>85203704
Why didn't he just Blind Zod?
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>>85203650

Seething
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>>85203718
Yes
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>>85203650

>Nobody but the biggest autists confused the film for an Iron Man movie, it was very clear that he'd only be there for a few scenes in a supporting capacity.

Dude, Iron Man is a big shadow in the entire movie. Vulture and his crew blame Stark for their problems, they're stealing tech from Stark and the Avengers, Spider-Man acts as an hero to win Stark and the Avengers approval, Stark ends up helping Spider-Man.

Saying Iron Man doesn't have a huge presence in the movie is pure lie.
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>>85203592
>>85203617
Did you dummies miss the part where it only dropped worse by like a percentage point compared to the 3 highest grossing Marvel movies after The Avengers?

Yes, War for the Planet of the Apes is a big enough film with a big enough demo crossover to explain that minuscule decline in percentage. No other MCU film has faced competition like that in its second week. This isn't complicated stuff.
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>>85203704
>>85203726

Because heat vision hurts? It's hard to get your fingers into a beam that's knocked you on your ass before
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>>85203650
>Nobody but the biggest autists confused the film for an Iron Man movie
The autist and anyone who saw the trailers and the posters. Shill harder kid

>Anyone who thinks that's comparable to the 6th Spider-Man film (i.e., 3rd version in 15 years) with a special appearance by RDJ as Iron Man (who's already shown up in 7 other MCU films)... well
Sure because Affleck wasn't like the 6th guy to play Batman in 30 years. What was that, the 8th Batman movie since 1989? And it was the third reboot for Superman too. Meanwhile Spider-Man is the highest grossing origing story even without adjusting it and Iron Man 3 made more than Civil War, an Avengers movie.

Homecoming is Marvel's Batman v Superman for everyone who isn't shilling for Disney. You're really fighting reality here
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>>85203650
>it's a "i need to be a contrarian and argue with the majority of the board because i love marvel movies post
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>>85203650

>BvS was the first time Batman and Superman were onscreen together in a film, and it was a showdown movie. Anyone who thinks that's comparable to the 6th Spider-Man film (i.e., 3rd version in 15 years) with a special appearance by RDJ as Iron Man (who's already shown up in 7 other MCU films)... well, there's no point trying to reason with you. You're a lost cause.

If you're going to count all of Spider-Man and Iron Man movies to imply that their big screen novelty wore of then i should point to you that BvS marked Batman 8th movie and Superman 6th movie.

>NO SPIDER-MAN FILM HAS CROSSED THE BILLION DOLLAR MARK.

Iron-Man has, though.
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>>85203685
its a rainbow anon. a beautiful rainbow of colors. where people from all walks of life get to experience inclusion. free of bigotry. Hell 5 seconds into the movie the villan is going to be corrected on using indian and should use the term native american. it's a good movie brant
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>>85203748
Those dropped harder because they had impressive opening weekends. This flop made like 12 million more than Wonder Woman and then dropped almost 20 percentage points more. It's a flop
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>>85203711
we know this was heavily promoted. it was everywhere
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>>85202792

People don't get that Zod was going to attempt to murder every human on the planet and that no jail could hold him.
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Sucks that the best spiderman so far did the worst
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>>85203650

Dude I would take Homecoming being Marvel's BvS because otherwise it's Marvel's Wonder Woman. And that's an even bigger embarrassment especially since she didn't need a bigger hero to hold her hand
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>>85203650
>Plus this is the 8th time RDJ has appeared in an MCU film. He was hardly the main attraction here.
>He was hardly the main attraction here.

Considering that only 1 Marvel movie has made over 800mil without him (And they need a dead month for that) and he's been in 4 films that made over a billion he most certainly is the draw you delusional fuck.
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>>85203837

I think they're lying about the marketing being that low.

>>85203996

Tobey did great. This new Spider-Man is barely Spider-Man at all
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>>85198996
>second-weekend drop
Are we now pretending this shit matters?
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>>85204264

>Now

Guess you weren't here for BvS. And it does matter. It shows what films are all hype (BvS and Homecoming) and what has legs (Wonder Woman)
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>>85204264
It mattered for BvS somehow, despite the fact that BvS made more money on its second weekend than this dumpster fire
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>>85204303

BvS had negative hype.
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>>85204402

Yeah that must be why it had a $166mil opening.
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>>85204429

Well, it isn't for nothing that it is known as the Trump of superhero movies.
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>diveristy shitfest
>bombs

good

at least wonder woman was all white
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>>85204464

Now we have to hope Dunkirk makes bank
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>>85198996
>>85203831
>This flop made like 12 million more than Wonder Woman and then dropped almost 20 percentage points more
And now WW is ahead. You can't make this shit up.
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>>85203726
Heat vision doesn't just come from the eyeball. Even an eyeless Kryptonian would still have heat "vision."
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>>85204524
It's over
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>>85204524
Based Amazonian demigoddess.
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SpiderFlop SpiderFlop
JUST look at that weekend drop
Losing money? Holy Cow
Not even China can save it now
LOOK OUT! Here comes the SpiderFlop
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>>85204524
And Wonder Woman's markeeting was a lot smaller in comparison to previous DC movies and Marvel as well. So that's more returns.
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>>85204596

Well yeah that's why it's the most profitable film of the Summer
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Do people over twelve actually watch super hero movies if their girlfriend isn't dragging them?
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>>85204615

Exactly that. Well done, I'd say!
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>>85198996
they should have added more RDJ screentime then this will earn a billion
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>>85204630
Yes
It's called 4chan users, reddit users, and Tumblr users.

The mindless consumer base of the entertaiment media industry.
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Just a reminder to all you folks, Batman was in the WONDER WOMAN movie.
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>>85204727
They didn't exactly make it a selling point. They barely promoted the film anyway. I go outside to any store and I see tons of Spidey merch and when Wonder Woman came out I didn't see shit but it still managed to sell a lot.
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>>85204630
>if their girlfriend isn't dragging them?

To be fair Wonder Woman is the best date movie in a long time
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>>85204727
?
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>>85204727

Ben Affleck isn't in the movie. Diana is just spending all his money and writing him an e-mail.
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>>85204787

He's trying to compare WW with Homecoming, probably trying to imply that WW only made bank because of Batman stardom.
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>>85204727

No he wasn't.
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>>85204824
That's retarded, it wasn't marketed with Affleck. Literally the only Batman thing is the email.
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>>85204824

But Batman wasn't even in the film. There was an E-Mail but it didn't even have an Affleck voice over.
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>>85204839
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>>85204665

You know I actually think that was part of it. People who are sick of Iron Man would have avoided it and people who like him would have been annoyed he was only in it for ten minutes. By trying to please both groups they alienated them instead.
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>>85198996
imagine my shock
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>>85204867

Batman isn't a Transformer anon. It's like saying he was in NMoS because Zod tears apart a Wayne satellite.
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>>85204909

Bruce Wayne was in Metropolis during the invasion, though. We all know this.
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>>85204770
WW posters were all over paris
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>>85204932

Yes but that was in BvS. Is this b8 or are you actually retarded?
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This is the sixth Spider-Man film since 2002. Of all of the films. I think I'd only ever rewatch SM2, which I've seen over 100 times, for fun.
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>>85204944

Here in NZ GOTG2 and Spidey had ads playing every second break. I only saw ads for Wonder Woman a few times.
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>>85204957

He appears in MoS between the crowds.
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>>85204985
They partnered with more than 30 companies, literally ads everywhere. The reported advertising budget is 140+M, I wonder what the + stands for here.
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>>85203347

I hope so. Nothing kills the capeshit faster than replacing White superheroes with Blacks.
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>>85204303
>>85204345
Yeah just look how poorly BvS did oh wait no it made a ton of money.
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>>85204985
UK barely saw any posters or ads for Spider-Man I didn't even know it was out until after it was. WW had heavy advertising.

But everything here now is MUH DUNKIRK.
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Sony is fucking deluded.
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/spider-man-sony-cinematic-universe-homecoming-1202498770/
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>>85205077

It under performed
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>>85198996
probably because they still prefer toby?
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>>85205079

>But everything here now is MUH DUNKIRK.

What's wrong with that? It seems like a good movie.
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>>85205166
Not at all.
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>>85205141

An R rated venom movie would do well. If it was handled by Fox and not Sony
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>>85204464

uhh... The merry band of beta orbiters in that movie includes an indian and a turk. And Wonder Womanbergsteinblatowitz is an Israeli.
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>>85205079
>But everything here now is MUH DUNKIRK.
Propaganda pieces that suit the political aims of the establishment always get priority in marketing.
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WONDERED RUSSOS
Please watch Captain Marvel
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>>85204988
What can man do against such relentless bait
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>>85205205

Yes. It did. I even like the movie and I admit that. It should have made a billion easily. Wonder Woman is going to make 70 mil more. The fact that BvS opened everywhere simultaneously really helped it make what it did
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>>85205239
Homocum is gonna be the MCU's BvS in terms of underperfoming.
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>>85198996
I haven't watched this shitty flick yet but why is it underperforming?
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>>85205252

I know
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>>85205264
See >>85204524
People are probably tired of seeing yet another Spider-man reboot, which is basically all centered around Iron Man even when he's not on screen.
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>>85205239
No, it didn't under perform. Quit making things up and lying on the internet.
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>>85205264

I think it's a lot of little reasons that have came to one big problem. To much Iron Man, not enough Iron Man, race sapped MJ, Looks cheap, villain nobody cares about.
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>>85205299

Quit fighting reality anon
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Daily reminder Marvel retards will flip flop on their box office predictions on daily basis.
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>>85205328
Seriously, stop lying. There's no point to it.
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>>85198996
>mj is a nigger
>"diversity" cast

I won't watch this shit for free, you would literally have to pay me at least 500 dollars.
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>>85205411

I know. You should stop
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>>85205517
>"no u"
Good comeback, liar.
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>>85205544

I'm sorry it under performed anon. I wanted it to do well
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>>85205264
Trailer revealed entire plot.
Literally no hype because they already showed us Spider-Man like 3 movies ago.
People are pretty sick of spider-man reboots.
Movie is a retread of well worn boring ground.
Villain was total ass.
Writers played stupid ass "is she MJ or not" game with Zendaya
Marketers really overestimated how much Zendaya's fanbase overlaps with Spider-Man's fanbase
This year has seen strong capeshit movies with Logan and Wonder Woman giving audiences something new
Sam Raimi diehards will still not accept any new Parker
The current Marvel Comics Spider-Man fanbase have been furious with Marvel for at least 4 years now, with every single decision that Marvel Comics Editorial makes towards the comic books seemingly designed to piss them off and make them as angry as possible.
Miles Morales fans (all 200 of them) have no reason to go see a Spider-Man movie.
General public feeling towards Spider-Man don't really see him a high school kid. He was only a high school kid for 16 chapters in the original comics, I don't know why the obsession with making him one now is so popular.
Millenials don't give a fuck about Spider-Man
Two much more interesting movies - Monkino and Dunkirk are released in the same window.
I'll state again, the villain was total ass. Using The Vulture was a massive mistake. Nobody gives a fuck about him. Personal Opinion but I'd have cared more if it was Kraven or The Lizard or shit even Black Cat would have put a spin on things.

Word of mouth counts too. And SM:HC's word of mouth has been it's okay. Not like WW which got great GO SEE GO SEE.

It'll make its money but it's not making more than any of the Raimikino.
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>>85205604
Lies.
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>>85198996
Went to see it with a friend near opening week. It was full.

Then went to see it yesterday with my brother, only a handful of people and no one stayed after the first after credits scene except us. They all missed the 2nd one.
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>>85205295
So it's "spiderman" fatigue?

It's also amazing how WW's still kicking.

>>85205626
Thanks.
This was informative.
Maybe this is what Disney wanted all along desu.
Either way Disney is a market plague right now

>>85205688
Why does this feel like a shill post.
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>>85198996
>the villian is more relatable than peter

What did they mean by this? Is it just because it's michael keaton playing the role? Or because he was a contractor trying to provide for his family
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>>85205688
>They all missed the 2nd one.
The second one is total bullshit, though.
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>>85205717
I found Vulture's character relatable, but so was Peter. I think most people were awkward at least once in their teen years and can relate.
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>spiderman just makes his webs instead of them being a part of his body

What is the excuse for this? It never feels like a good spidey when he just makes the stuff and puts it in some canisters
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>>85205698
Guess it's the way I'm writing it. Either way, not that many people yesterday in imax.
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>>85205833
It's usually done for plot purposes to serve as tension knowing he can run out mid battle. But it's stupid to presume a kid could invent such a contraption
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>>85205833

Spider-Man used canisters because of some weird shit with the comics code. So he couldn't fire a white ejaculated from his body or something like that. Natural webs was the original idea
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>>85205926
The kid is supposed to be genius enough to invent it, this movie butchered the character. Peter is completely fucking incompetent without Tony supporting him, it's pathetic.
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>>85203002
Spider-Man 1,2's box office are far more impressive than the Dark Knight considering they were made 6 years before.
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>>85205833
His synthetic webs were always played into just how intelligent Parker actually is, and adds immensely to his character.

It also got to be used to show just how inept he can be too because he runs out of them at the worst moments. It is used mostly as a plot device. He can whip up stinger batches to deal with extremely tough people, make batches that disappear almost instantly or last hours. And it's not just the fluid, he designed and built the shooters too which is another technical feat that also added as a device, for example someone could grab him by the wrists and crush them making him unable to use webbing and have to think on his feet more. From a writer's and character's perspective I think artificial ones added a lot more depth to Peter. But I also think he should be in college not high school because you can just do a lot more with a slightly older character, and he spent the vast majority of his time in the comics as a college student.

He used organic webs for a while in the comics but readers hated it.
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>>85206041

I thought Spider-Man was supposed to be an annoying asshole to the other superheroes?
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>>85206109

Not really. You raise both for inflation and the Dark Knight still comes out on top. Nice try though.
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>>85205934
>>85205926
What happens when the spider bites him then? Does he just get all the abilities besides the organic web slinging?
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>>85206427
also, doesnt that mean that pretty much anyone can just slap the canisters on and use them?
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>>85204779
It really is.
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>>85206161
Not that anon but I believe he was talking more in line with "Spider-Man 1 and 2 did well considering they were before the whole superhero hype train," which is a fair thing to say. That's not to say that Dark Knight came out at the height of superhero hype, but it did ride the wave of Iron Man 1.
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>google "spider-man homecoming box office"
>headline from a news article: "Hollywood’s box-office woes: Is the industry aiming too narrowly at men?"

Thanks for being so patrician and not seeing it after Wonder Woman did so well. The wave of grrl power capeshit is on you.
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>>85199659
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>>85198996
Sony is helping foot the bills for some of the profit. They're not in on the MS/WB cape racket yet, they'll push for more and I don't think Marvel Studios will fight them too much.

Also,
>movie grosses twice its budget in two weeks
>BUT THE TRENDING ANON LOOK AT THE TRENDING ITS ALL OGRE
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>>85199093
To be fair, there is blsck smoke in the foreground. Still that's terrible CGI. The Rami films had more heart, but this new one wasn't too bad
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>>85199659
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>>85207375
>cape racket
?
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>>85199659
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>>85199659
I fucken lmao! Great job, anon
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>>85206529
Yes, but the chance of you dying from that rises incredibly high when you overshoot your webs or undershoot them and you fall from a good height.
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>>85207683
Everything people are calling "franchise-killing flops" are still making hundreds of millions in profit.

This shit isn't going away any time soon. Journalists are having to choose words and numbers carefully to make it sound like the bubble is bursting to get people to read their articles because no one would give a shit about yet another article that says "superhero movie makes tidy profit for studio."
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>Keep rebooting the same superhero every year
>Assume people still give a fuck
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>>85205626
do you think the MUH DIVERSITY was another factor why the movie flopped?
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>>85205491
This
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>already made past its budget
>dude it's totally a flop

DCshills need to be gassed
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>>85202792
>Using logic when there is a FUCKING ALIEN WITH LASER EYES trying to kill you
>Being frozen in fear isn't a thing
Are people this retarded or what?
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>>85199659
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>>85208957
Not its marketing budget
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...It's on course to make 850-900m worldwide, how is this a flop?
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>>85208975
Not to mention that their path of escape would have taken them even closer to the combatants they were clearly terrified of.
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>>85198996
Eh, it will be fine. Even if it won't break a billion, well, BvS not being at least 2 billions didn't stop Warner Bros. from going on with their shit.

It's not that capeshit bubble is bursting, it's just viewers have become numb to 1)capeshit movies 2)Spider-man reboots 3)criminally average movies done by Disney's money making formula.
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>>85199659
Well ya silly cunt
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>>85204585
>edgy Leto joker

IIRC, he claimed to do research on the joker before filming started. The studio has to have interfered in his portrayal, there's no way he read joker comics and came out with "sleazy drug dealer."
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>>85203841
What people don't get is that Zod was literally and legitimately asking to be killed he was engineered to protect krypton, whithout krypton all he could hope was for a good death.
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>>85208739
I assume you live either in Europe or a homogeneous part of America.

New York City is one of the most racially and culturally diverse cities on the planet. There is no MUH DIVERSITY in this movie, because the racial demographic is a very accurate representation of Queens in real life.
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>>85205299
I think the point that he's trying to make is that it should have done a lot more money than it did.
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>>85210351
He came off as an annoying cunt, which is actually one of the versions of the joker in the comics.
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>>85204630
MoS and BvS are works of art anon, there's layers upon layers of subtlety to them.
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>>85198996
marlel shills defending another Kevin Feige abomination
What else is new?
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>>85204798
>Diana is just spending all his money and writing him an e-mail.
>it's a batman and WW date universe
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>>85198996

You burn the coal you pay the toll

Not only that but that had to be the worst spiderman casting, whiny & effeminate
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>>85210698
>drill the oil*
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>>85199102
Whatever you say, anonymous internet poster.
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Now we see how short lived the appeal of this cookie cutter money maker flick really is. Why do you think people kept going back to see Spiderman 3?
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>>85206131
He isn't annoying per se. Go watch the ultimate spider-man cartoon for the best spider-man. He steals captain america's shield at one point. He's supposed to be naive but so fast he does well. Needs to have lots of quips.
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>>85203747

It's almost like it takes place in the MCU.
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>>85206117
Did the organic webs have a refractory period or any limitations?
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>>85199659

Include me in the /r/4chan screen cap
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>>85210886
More like RDU
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>>85199659
baahahahahahahahaaa
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>>85199659
Upvoted
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>>85199659
Marlel BTFO
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>>85210893
No. They also gave him a bunch of other spider-powers like night vision and spider "stingers". But there was another reset of sorts and these powers have never been mentioned again, they are assumed gone.
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>>85210913
kek
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>>85203650
>Nobody but the biggest autists confused the film for an Iron Man movie,
> it was very clear that he'd only be there for a few scenes

Literally their whole advertising revolves around iron Man being nu-male-mans mentor. All commercials had Spider-Man and iron Man in the same capacity

Are seriously this retarded?
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>>85198996
Wait, that's really from the movie? I thought it was from the upcoming ps4 game.
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>>85199659
Lol
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>>85199659
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>>85211419
Tracking down disney shills and permabanning them. Only that way it'll stop being funny seeing them BTFO
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>>85203841
Nobody takes issue with a storyline where the hero is forced to do something they don't want to. The reason MoS was laughable and stupid is that they pretty much spent most of the movie showing Superman being indoctrinated by his dipshit dad about the tenets of libertarianism before the movie turned into a belligerent 9/11-fest of ridiculous mind-numbing destruction. By the time it gets to the stupid fucking tell that to Zod's snapped neck scene, there has A: been no real set up to the "Superman doesn't want to kill peopel" plotline, and B: hundreds of thousands of people have already died nobody gives a shit if you kill the idiot monster alien that wants to destroy everyone.
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>>85199659
WE

DID

IT

REDDIT
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>>85211714
>that Lexcorp logo on the truck
DEEEPEST MOVIE

And you got it all wrong, his dad was afraid his son would be hurt, the scene where the kids bully Clark shows he cares about his son's emotion, the scene where superman kills Zod is about Superman caring about every innocent person, just like you know, on the comics.

And be real MoS was treated like shit because "OH GOD SUPERMAN KILLED SOMEONE EVEN THOUGH HE ALSO KILLED THE SAME PERSON IN THE COMICS AGES AGO".
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$400M for Wonder Woman is a lock, forecasts are at $410M now.
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>>85212038
How is that deep?
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>>85212109
On the comics set on the same universe we see that Lex obtained that cellphone-like video which appears right on that scene. Thanks to that detail it's most likely it was the driver of the truck that delivered the recording to him.
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>>85212038
>And be real MoS was treated like shit because "OH GOD SUPERMAN KILLED SOMEONE EVEN THOUGH HE ALSO KILLED THE SAME PERSON IN THE COMICS AGES AGO".
It was treated like shit for a confluence of reasons. Mostly on account of it being a retarded, poorly-executed movie. Nobody was loving the movie until Superman killed Zod and then they were like ew no thank you. Just like with the Martha shit in BvS, Zod's snapped neck didn't ruin the movie, it was the cherry on top of the retard sundae.
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>>85199659
Include me in the screenshot.
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When you spend the better part of a year of your life telling everyone what a huge flop BvS was and then your own BvS fails to even come close to that you spend the better part of the year saying how it's a massive success
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>>85202062

I would honestly say it may even be better than Iron Man. I can't overstate how much my expectations for an underwhelming, pandering, blase MCU movie were wrong. This is a genuinely great film.
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>>85212249
How is that deep?
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>>85212254
>Mostly on account of it being a retarded, poorly-executed movie
I haven't seen a single good reason yet, is spewing undefined criticism all you retarded marvelcucks can do?
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>>85212355
How is that NOT deep when we don't even get to see the logo properly?
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>>85212324
(Part deux)

When you spend the better part of a year forcing Rotten Tomatoes scores down everyone's throats only to call them delegitimate when a DCEU film gets 90% only to spam them again when Homecoming gets higher only to immediately cease spamming the moment it dropped lower
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>>85212254
>ew no thank you.
>ew
you aren't from 4chan, fuck off to whatever shithole you are from faggot
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>>85212552
Just now realized MCUck shill army isn't from 4chan? They came here with the Bane meme birth and stayed here since.

Well until recently when they've become the most hated thing on this board since abatap.
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>>85212380
>I haven't seen a single good reason yet
Well apparently you're blind. Or more likely a retarded knownothing teen. The Zod's neck sequence is a perfect example of Synder's fundemental disabilities as a filmmaker and storyteller. When you have to watch a movie repeatedly just to figure out what the director's intent was with basic surface level narrative shit, the movie fails as a movie. The general confusion from audiences about what the fuck the characters are doing, why, and how, and the retarded justifications offered by the fanboys are all evidence of a bad fucking movie.
>is spewing undefined criticism
Pretty thoroughly defined I've watched BvS like 15 times just to study exactly the means and extant to which everything was a misfire. MoS is better than BvS but it's the same kind of belligerent iamverysmary.jpg schlock with no self-awareness.
>all you retarded marvelcucks can do?
lol confirmed for tribalist nigger faggot kid. Don't give a shit about Marvel. I love Batman and Batman movies and I love how overwhelmingly terrible and misguided BvS is. I love how it's always the muh company wars faggots that feel the need to defend objective shit like BvS. It's the same kind of false-dilemma shit that gets people all wound up about politics. Your defense of BvS is more about you being a contrarian faggot shitposter that doesn't like the popular kids schlock movie studio.
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>>85199215
The studio will consider this a failure regardless.
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>>85199357
Jesus Christ, fanboy. Of course they'll make more but they'll scale it back by a lot. They want a certain level of profit to justify investment.
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>>85212780
This is the face of mouseshill seething after getting BTFO so hard

>b-but I don't care about Marvel
Funny how you're so dead set on spewing BvS shit in a Marvel thread then you shit liar.
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>>85212617
>Just now realized MCUck shill army isn't from 4chan? They came here with the Bane meme birth and stayed here since.
Fuck off belligerent faggot. The hardcore meming of the TDKR plane scene when it first leaked was done by the contrarian TDK shitposters. Then it turned into it's own meme. People shitting on MoS and BvS is only superficially connected to TDKR memes. If the Snyder movies weren't such belligerent shit they wouldn't have been treated that way.
>Well until recently when they've become the most hated thing on this board since abatap
kek by you. Goofing on Snyderfags is basically a sport on this board.
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>>85198996
When this is your Ned Leeds, expect old-school Spidey fans to say "Fuck you, I'm not seeing this shite!"
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>>85212916
>>85212780
Same mentally ill patient. I recommend anyone not to waste your lives on a schizo.
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>>85198996
I loved Marvel, Disney, etc, but they stupidly believed the Leftist untermensch that "diversity" and other commie bullshit are healthy and normal for Western nations. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. They can fuck right off now.
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>>85212780
>the retarded justifications offered by the fanboys are all evidence of a bad fucking movie
Counterpoint, watching the scenes more than once to understand them means you're fucking retarded that needs information to be spoonfed to you.
>Pretty thoroughly defined
Not in your post it wasn't, you decided to not define your criticism because you know none of them holds against anyone that paid attention to the movie.
>lol confirmed for tribalist nigger faggot kid
Not really no, marvelcucks at least take some joy in shitposting against dc, you are just retarded.
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>Disney attempts to make Peter an annoying fanboy with the maturity of an 8-year-old
"You got it wrong!"
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>>85212889
>This is the face of mouseshill seething after getting BTFO so hard
kek this is the face of a knownothing kid trying to banter but incapable of making an argument.
>b-but I don't care about Marvel
I don't.
>Funny how you're so dead set on spewing BvS shit in a Marvel thread then you shit liar.
A: I came here to shitpost about Spiderman.
B: I just responded to an anon impotently defending BvS after it had already been brought up.
>>85212984
>People that write movies, write about filmmaking, work in the industry, and like to talk about what makes movies bad are mentally ill
>People that impotently shill for shitty movies and get triggered and start freaking out when people goof on them are totally normal.
lol normie faggot kys.
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>>85213114
>A: I came here to shitpost about Spiderman.
Show us your Spidey shitpsts.
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>>85213114
>>85213212
Hello? When are you going to show us your Spidey shitposts?? I thought you said you hated Marvel?
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>>85213212
>Show us your Spidey shitpsts.
kek I saw BvS and jumped all over that shit. Haven't even seen the new Spider-man, just wanted to see if it had any good mems yet.
>>85213453
>Hello? When are you going to show us your Spidey shitposts??
lol jesus m8 how lonely are you?
>I thought you said you hated Marvel?
I said I don't care about Marvel. Why do you suppose you're so wound up?
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>>85213819
So then that's a no? You haven't really done anything ITT but start a BvS shitpost war because you needed to distract the thread from Marvel's failure. A lying shill is still a shill. We're not idiots. You are for thinking us that dumb to fall for it.
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>>85213035
More like Disney attempts to destroy the Spiderman brand and get it cheap from Sony
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>>85213878
I didn't start the BvS shitposting ITT you belligerent faggot welcome to /tv/
>you needed to distract the thread from Marvel's failure
I'm guessing you're OP? Why do you suppose you're so committed to muh company wars shit? Why do you have this endless false-dilemma where if someone likes to talk shit about bad WB movies they must also need to defend ok Disney movies. I like DCEU because Snyder is shit and the movies are historically bad. Nobody will give a shit about the 95% of the MCU in 20 years.

But yeah keep whining about I'm ruining your capeshit company thread you uppity nigger.
> A lying shill is still a shill
20 Warner shekels have been deposited into your account.
>We're not idiots.
You're by yourself here for one thing. There is no "we."

And you're unambiguously an idiot.

>You are for thinking us that dumb to fall for it.
Fall for what? I just think you're dumb and easy to fuck with.
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>>85211419
Ban all superhero discussion.
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>>85213878
You watch capeshit, of course you are dumb.
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>that samefaggotry with the spiderman jingle post
its ok anon, you can alway keep replying to your own posts to make it look like its the top comment while it was still funny but youre still a faggot
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>>85198996
>>85199093

They both look like shit. The second one especially because the light sources are coming from every single direction and yet the background is some warehouse/underpass at night with a single flood light on it.
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>>85198996
I'm not surprised that it flopped.
I'm also happy. Capeshit is coming to an end.

WW did good only because of SJW agenda.
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>>85205626
I fell for the Wonder Woman word of mouth. God that movie was shit. But shills were delusional if they thought the bigget woman capeshit character's first movie wasn't going to kick ass at the BO. Haven't been back to the cinema since and im sure as shit not going for Spiderman
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>>85215522
>tfw a world without MCU, DCEU and Fox trash is coming
>tfw capeshitters will finally fuck off from /tv/
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>>85215522
If SJW was the reason WW doing well, explain Homvominh under performing.
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Man that Spidey drop.
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>>85216255
The main character didn't have a black penis or a vagina.
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>>85215522
>>85216255
WW was one of the most conservative movies ive seen in awhile. there was literally zero sJW and that's why it was good
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>>85216759
>. there was literally zero sJW in WW

It's amazing how much people want to delude themselves.
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>>85199659
This is why I come here
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>>85203837
It probably had one of the biggest marketing campaigns I can remember seeing for a movie. I was literally being flooded with 2 minute long Spiderman ads everywhere I went
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>>85216945
there really wasn't, much to my surprise

it really felt like a movie made a decade ago, right down to the way it was shot
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>>85199659
>Copy/pasted from a thread yesterday if not earlier than that
>All these (You)s

The world is an unjust place
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>>85211419
We kill the Bat-man
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>>85217582
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How is Disney's CGI getting worse? Are they cutting costs and shipping it to china because marketing is all that really matters when it comes to capeshit?
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>>85199176
If it aint makin a billion dollars it's a flop baby
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Just came back from it, it was alright.
Making Flash a dyel pajeet was retarded though. He's supposed to be a Chad but he was just a loser.
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>>85218851
well your criticism means literally nothing since you already gave them their money. so fuck off?
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>>85218931
Explain your argument please, I genuinely don't understand.
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>>85218979
He didn't give an argument. He was baiting.
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>>85218979
if you complain you gotta complain with your money. you just boosted their box office. meaning everytime someone like you pays to just "check it out" a new shitty movie gets made
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>>85219274
I don't care about the movie industry. Why would I? I'm just some guy talking shit about movies with people online. I can complain all I want.

It's just movies, who cares about the "politics"? Get a life.
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