Why does /tv/ hate this film so much?

>>85122819
I like it more than Casino Royale.

>Bond movie
>3rd act has no babes/gadgets/cars
like I give a shit if Judy Dench lives

>>85122819
i came after the best bond movie, so it look like shit in comparison, and i remember it been a giant mess.

best villain.

>>85122819
It was nice to look at but I found the action to be boring.

Casino Royale > Skyfall > power gap > Spectre > power gap > Quantum of Solace

>>85123268
Casino royal = Skyfall>> Spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quantum>>>Sean connery/Moore bonds>>>>>>>>>>>>>every other bond

The pacing is really bad.
Individually most of the scenes are good to great, but there's zero sense of momentum and urgency because the story connecting them is not engaging at all.

>>85122986
reddit

>i live to see the day when 007 rip off Austin Powers
>what's his big plan after losing Quantum the supposedly bigger than MI5 organization
>fucking installation art, pin up posters in rooms to remind you "it was me all alone" shitting up every previous villain from Casino up

I am ok with the many homages and tributes the movie paid to previous movies but it should remain just tributes

>>85123495
thats Spectre m8

>>85122819
because its literally Home Alone with all the boobie traps n shit

>>85122819
Because it's popular.

>>85123304
>implying the spy who loved me isn't the GOAT

Too many Vesper reference. I like Eva Green, but this is not a Bond style to suffer because of one bondgirl death.

the villain in skyfall is unbelievably bad.

Every single thing he does is based on an "expected outcome" that has an extremely low percentage of actually happening. Basically, in real life, not only would nothing he do work, he would probably get himself killed immediately. I.E the fucking timed explosions while bond is chasing him.


the man with the golden gun is the best bond.

>>85124083
It's not a spectre you blind tard

>>85122819
It was okay, but pales in comparison to Casino Royale, Skyfall is the second best of Craigbond though.

>>85122819
I liked it in terms of an action movie. I'm not a huge James Bond guy to begin with though. Probably why I liked it. It's a bit different I think

>>85123268
This is a fact. QoS is unwatchable.

>>85123495

Same director, different Bond movie.

Because people loved it and we have to be contrarians.

>>85122819
LET THE PIE FALL APPLE CRUMBLE WE WILL STUMBLE AND EAT IT ALL

>>85124194
so is tommorrow never dies. There is something about 2nd bond films that are always shit

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>>85123268
Someone gets it.

Favorite Bond: Dalton
Favorite Bond Movie: The Living Daylights
I liked Casino Royale
I loved QoS
Skyfal was okay, but very unmemorable for some reason
Spectre was shit.

>>85123130
>gay joker is best villain

A ripoff of Alex from Goldeneye, Electra from TWINE and Jim Phelps from Mission Impossible 1.

Great meme

>>85125251
Are you that Anon who's a Gemma Arterton fan? That would explain your love for Quantum.

>>85125307
Dalton is the only one with no bad (relatively speaking) JB movies.

TLD is the perfect mix of all things JB and of all the takes on the character.

>>85123054
>>3rd act has no babes/gadgets/cars

One of the major weapons he uses during the home alone sequence was the fucking gadget car he stole, you numpty

>>85123054
I gave a shit in The World is Not Enough.

>>85122819
I liked it, I hated Spector though

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>>85122986
>>85123130
>>85123268
>>85124127
>>85124922
>>85125590

>>85124194
EAch individual scene in QoS is fine, its just really boring and unmemorable overall.

There's like 5 decent movies in half a century of film making. Bond is literal garbage.

>>85124086
Just like in Dark Knight.

>>85122819
At the part where Silver appears, the whole story makes no sense whatsoever and it painfully obvious ripped off Dark Knight, until that it's a very decent movie, on par with Casino Royal.

>>85125384
IMO Dalton really was the most nuanced Bond giving the character the most depth, but him not having bad movies is solely because he only having the two.
It's like saying George Lazenby was the best Bond because he only has "okay movies" (which he did only one: OHMSS).

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>>85122819
How was Vladimir Putin available to rule Russia and play Bond at the same time?

>>85124086
This

And Christopher Lee was great. I unironically love the way he has no idea how anything on his island actually works.

"If you say so mister Bond"

>>85124194
You can't even tell what's going on on the screen except for the knife fight scene which is well done.

>>85125040
From Russia with love is probably the best Bond movie ever directed because it's a solid Thriller who would even work if you write Bond out of the Story.

>>85125894
The Joker was the Joker. The whole point was that you knew nothing about him so he was capable of anything.

Gay Blonde Joker was a pathetic character.

>>85123268
Casino Royale > 1. half of Skyfall > Quantum of Solace >>>>> Spectre > 2. half of Skyfall

>>85126251
Personally I liked the car chase. Even with its frantic editing.

Everything else was even worse than Bourne Ultimatum

>>85122819
Paint by numbers Bond movie. Also hated Hideo Kojima as Q.

The Home Alone part was fun though.

>>85125940
By Bond standards OHMSS is one of the finest, best score and best visuals

What does /tv/ think of Roger Moore as Bond?

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>>85126573

>>85126598

Unfit.

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What was the point of this scene?

>>85123304
The fuck is wrong with you

>>85126598
Love him. My favorite is Live and Let Die.

>>85126886
It was me all along, Anon.

>>85126659
Deep lore to begin the Bond Cinematic Universe(tm)

>>85126251
The editing does QoS no favours. But it keeps getting better when you re-watch it.

>>85126659

Brit cucking the French

>>85123268
>Spectre
Disgusting, worst craig bond film.

>>85122819
It was a ripoff of The Dark Knight that was painfully unaware of many old Bond cliches it was recycling.

>>85122819
It was okay

>>85127014

Bond threads are great, you're almost guaranteed to find someone with actual taste.

>>85125307

Brosnan was ruined for me thanks to his shitty later movies.

>>85128229
They're not that bad. They're more action movies than any other Bond movies, but they all have some good scenes. Even DaD had some good characters and scenes.

>>85128420

The only true atrocities are the Xtreme surfing scenes and the entirety of Madonna's contributions.

What's interesting to me is the continued use of satellites as weapons tropes as major plot devices in all of Brosnan's films baring TWINE. The idea of muh space weapon was obviously pretty dull by the third time.

>>85128747
Connery and Moore had their fair share of satellites too.

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>>85129468
Space weapons are like the death rays of old fiction. You can attach all kinds of plausible-sounding pseudoscience to it to make it a terrifying doomsday weapon. IRL they're kinda shitty for what they cost.

Also see: computer viruses, biological weapons, EMP, nanomachines.

the story wasn't great

craig is a great bond
great actor

but his oldman face i just cant get over

>>85122819
It's Spectre I really can't fucking stand.

>>85128420
DAD first half is genuinely good.

>>85128747
DAD second half is a trip to the bizarro dimension.

>>85123086
>quantum of solace
>best

wew this board really is just nothing but dumb contrarians

It had some great cinematography but bad screenplay. And I swear Craig gets less dialogue every film.

>>85130205

Appalling.

>>85122819
it was the politically correct muh diversity marvel capeshit Bond for redditors. basically ruined by mentally ill libshits and subhuman kike jews with their western world destroying agenda.

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>>85125307
>MFW you forget best Bond

>>85123086
are you referring to quantum of solace? because that was terrible.

>>85130200
I'm assuming he was talking about CR and just forgot QoS even exists.

>>85125654
>2017
>using image macros

I'd call you reddit, but even they think macros are outdated

>>85124194
If you are ADHD plebbito

Say what you want this film is absolutely comfy I watched about ten times I would still watching it over the next years, and yes they stole some ideas from The Dark Knight

Casino Royale is one of the greatest movies of the 00s.
Quantum of Solace is mediocre, but passable (and it got Gemma).
Skyfall is pretty dull, story sucks, last act sucks. Overrated as fuck.
Spectre is shit all around: bad song, bad villain, lame action scenes, no chemistry, shitty sideplot with M and C etc.

I hope Craig can redeem himself with his last entry, a chance Brosnan never got.

>>85130606
spectre was his last

>>85130707
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/07/10/daniel-craig-signs-bond-25-christopher-nolan-admits-talks-producers/

>>85130801
interesting. if they can do something with blofeld again but not shit it up this time I might be excited

>>85130606
also fuck your taste is bad

Many times I've tried to watch QoS but that shakycam crap just brings my shit to a boil and I stop during that horrible intro song.

>>85130901
Just because I don't fall for the *OMG great cinematography!!! Bond gay love <3 Judi Dench wass the ACTUAL Bond girl in Skyfall!* meme, I have bad taste?

ok then.

It ruined the possibility that "Bond" was a Codename assigned to 007, which would explain a myriad of things; particularly why people like Q and M stayed the same over the course of various Bonds, technological advances as well, etc.

>>85130955
because you are shitting on it for no legitimate reason at all. would you rather it have poor filming? would you rather it be dumb action instead of doing something interesting with the characters? the craig series was still about him "becoming" bond at that point. it really rounded off that arc very well.

>>85131061
>codename for a codename

you don't need explaining why a 40 year old film series changes things over time. just take each film or series of films as independent from the others.

this isn't capeshit. you don't need to autistically connect every single little thing and produce some shitty multiverse of different bonds.

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>>85130295
tfw grandpa bond is great but not GOAT

>>85122819
All bond movies suck

>>85131130
>codename for a codename
what, 007 is his designation, Bond is the name they gave him so they don't have to call him by his real name or ALWAYS call him 007
>shitty multiverse of Bonds
that isn't where I was going with that.. AT ALL, you went way too far into that

"over the course of various Bonds" means that James Bond over the years either
1) Retires
2) Dies
Then they replace him: Give 007 and "James Bond" to the next guy

It's not as absurdly ridiculous as multiverse bonds..

>>85131061
>It ruined the possibility that "Bond" was a Codename assigned to 007
Did you even watch older Bonds? He visits his parents' grave in FYEO, references Tracy's death in LTK.

>>85131072
lol
by Skyfall they were full on: I'm too old for this shit, I'm a relict, I don't fit in..

>>85131276
>>85131061
My bad, it's actually Tracy's grave

>>85131061
>>85131130
>>85131250


STOP THIS FUCKING SHIT, SKYFALL DIDN'T RUIN ANYTHING BECAUSE THIS RETARDED FUCKING THEORY ABOUT CODENAMES HAS ALWAYS BEEN BTFO SINCE FOR YOUR EYES ONLY YOU STUPID CUNTS

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>>85131136
GOAT incoming

>>85126598
Second best after Craig

>>85131250
or: each film is not really connected to the others, any connection is either a direct sequel or an homage, nothing more.

skyfall is actually interesting in that it both explores the idea that bond is getting old, and that it finishes up the "origin story" concept from casino royale by reintroducing us to moneypenny, old M etc and finally having him cut all ties and close the book on his old life. It seems like a contradiction but it's just admitting that the character is old but his reboot story has just finished it's beginning. no need to think harder about it than that.

>>85131340
>>85131352
Well has it? Did he visit his parents grave or Tracy's grave

Did the grave actually say "Bond" on it. Make up your minds

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>>85131352
>BECAUSE THIS RETARDED FUCKING THEORY ABOUT CODENAMES HAS ALWAYS BEEN BTFO SINCE FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
This

>>85131398
>>85131425

>>85131390
>skyfall is actually interesting in that it both explores the idea that bond is getting old, and that it finishes up the "origin story" concept from casino royale by reintroducing us to moneypenny, old M etc and finally having him cut all ties and close the book on his old life. It seems like a contradiction but it's just admitting that the character is old but his reboot story has just finished it's beginning. no need to think harder about it than that.

it IS a contradicition though

>>85131693
it isn't.

>>85131744
didn't work for me at all..

>>85124963
This. Worst song of any bond film torpedoed it before it even had a chance.

>>85131793
it's the best bond song though. it got an oscar for a reason

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this film is kino

>>85131793
>Worst song of any bond film
you clearly aren't familiar with the other bond films if you honestly think this retarded shit

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>>85130955
>implying M isn't best girl

>>85122819
Becuase its good, what do you think?
/tv/ is invested with deluded contrarians. This hive is full of shit taste.

>>85131906
>>85132092
>yas kween slay

No seriously, it's bad and you should feel bad for liking it.

>>85131793
>Worst song of any bond film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXXEpNa3CqQ

>>85126598
Octopussy was fun.

>>85132642
>suddenly Q in a hot air balloon
10/10

>>85132633

Writing on the wall is worse, at least Madonna is actually female

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFIpMZsH4Rw

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>tfw unironically enjoyed Spectre

>>85132682
Holy fuck I forgot about that unbelievable pile of ass, must have blocked it form my memory

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>>85122819
The screenplay is a bit weak but it's definitley the best modern Bond film in terms of cinematography.

>inb4 Spectre
That flick was literal shit regarding cinematography and everything else

The best overall modern Bond film is obviously Casino Royale

>>85131335
ya that's partially why I hate skyfall. i'm so sick of this like "oh i'm washed up and hung up the cape a long time ago" thing yet ends up coming back anyways. bond ins't a pussy and a quitter who fails target practice. I'm not averse to changing things up but altering the character in this way changes the spirit of the bond movie.

>>85132879
Nailed it.

>>85132879
that cgi scorpion is probably the worst part of the film

spectre is good though.
>sigint vs humint
>covert manipulation of popular opinion for political gain
and it's pretty fun. craigs big problem was always taking himself too seriously. but it was needed back when the latter brosnan films were fresh in peoples minds

>>85122819
It's not good? Hacking as magic is always obnoxious. Kino title sequence though

>>85132971
are you retarded? he failed target practice because of his shoulder injury from the prologue.

>>85132771
That poor image is already outdated, no one remembers Pacific Rim anymore.

>>85132682
>>85132633
What is the best bond song and why is it this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAielojF5kI

Craig has one good Bond film

Why do people pretend like he's any good?

>>85133156
He's just an actor. He can't write the script or direct the movie. This is why people are able to look past Brosnan's latter era.

>>85133226
This is true. Why do you think he wanted to leave the role since the second film? He's known all along that the quality has been pretty low since CR, he just reluctantly keeps doing it for the paycheck.

>>85133119
you are wrong in my opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs8uYxTJ530

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>>85133411
this
shares the #1 spot with Nobody Does It Better, though

>>85122819
Because it wasn't directed by his Holiness Saint Nolan

>>85133411
>>85133489
fucking awful

>>85133612
you're right, best is OHMSS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8XNBpIkQpU

>>85131793
I find Adele a bit on the nose, but worse than Sam Smith, Duran Duran, A-ha & Madonna? nah.

>>85124083

>>85133032
are you retarded? its pretty clear he is failing because hes fucked up,depressed, and letting himself go

>>85123268

Spectre managed to be worse than QoS which wasn't even shot with a full script, it was a Roger Moore movie and not one of the good ones

>>85123495
>i live to see the day when 007 rip off Austin Powers

It was the other way around

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>>85126598

Lovely stuff

great film.

>>85133156
Brosnan only has one good Bond film and I liked him a lot as Bond.

>>85131793
>worst bond song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jzDnsjYv9A

In b4: it got an oscar. So did Suicide Squad

>>85134930
they made it clear it was the injury

>>85130353
an understandable mistake

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>>85130438
Do tell, Reddit expert.

Here's another "image macro" for you ...

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>>85123268
I can accept this. Spectre is painfully lazy and dull. Quantum of Solace is a mess. Haven't decided which I dislike the most yet.

>>85131335
>by Skyfall they were full on: I'm too old for this shit, I'm a relict, I don't fit in..

The first two movies were the origin and the immediately following adventure, and then he's already too old. Just like - surprise! - Nolanbats.

>>85136332
you probably didn't understand what they meant. they're handling the switch from humint (cia, mi5, kgb etc.) to sigint (nsa, prism, echelon) that's currently taking place in the real world. bond is of the "old guard". that's what they're playing at. They're even implying the "new guard" is corrupt as in both films sigint is being used against the people.

>>85135344
It was both. At the "What a waste of good Scotch" line he transforms back into Casino Royale sociopath Bond and is back in form.

>>85135138
>It was me, Austin! The author of all your pain!

oh wait it's James, not Austin.

>>85122819
>caring about the opinions of contrarian snowflakes
lol