Was Spider-Man: Homecoming actually good?

>>85107500
Yes it was good. The problems this board is coming up with is really stupid. Watch it and see the positives the movie has.

>>85108135
it takes like three hours to go watch it and five minutes to ask if it was good

I only want to watch the movie if it was good

holy cannolis

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>>85107500
>Was Spider-Man: Homecoming actually good?

>literally 5 seconds into the film someone is chastised for calling native Americans "Indians"
>literally 10 seconds in a black school news reporter is macking on blonde white girl
>the new black Mary Jane's WE speech about how the Washington monument was built by slaves
>both of Peter Parker's love interests are black
>villain's wife is black
>Peter's Mexican school rival has a white blonde girlfriend
>the oh so edgy /b/ Fuck Marry Kill scene with high schoolers fantasizing about old men, also participated in by a gay male
>Aunt May’s “Gay is OK!” speech

you decide

>>85107500
I liked it a lot. Jon Watts is a fine director. He had a good vision for this film. I hope they bring him back.

>>85107500
Ye, Its pretty good if you go in with grounded expectations. It seemed they actually took some effort to have characters be a little more than your normal bad guy and hero formula and they actually took stuff like web swinging logic into consideration. Its got some awkward humor here and there but still serves to be funny a good amount of times.

Atleast thats my opinion. I'd recommend it to anyone even remotely interested in spider-man.

>>85107500
That game was shit.
The one based on the second movie was incredible, though.
I love how in that first game you could unlock a fully playable Green Goblin with Glider if you beat it on the highest difficulty,
and all you had to do for that was to select the highest difficulty and then "play" the final level, which was just a cutscene

>>85108377
>complaints consist of /pol/shit

>>85108377
wow it all boils down to if there virtually any representation of someone different it becomes REEEEE SJW

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MCUcks like critics now?

>>85108377
I'm not even alt-right and this sounds terrible.

I'm one of those people who keeps lists of things he enjoys. Only two movies from the past five years are on that list, and I would honestly be alright if they never existed.

can't believe this corporate conveyor belt fucking propaganda shit fucking retarded population stupid godadmned country I can't even trust critics aguienwauigh w4gjiawbigjaewjvonaotvn3 wgjatjl;awl;egl;aewjg

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posting superior video game

>>85107500
Best darn spoodermen movie I've seen in a while. letting marvel take the wheel was best darn thing sony could have done with the franchise

Go see it brody u wont regert

>>85108457
>>85108466
so you enjoy lukewarm propaganda scattered throughout your movies?

it doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. explain what the fuck it has to do with spider man.

that's right. fucking retards

>>85108377
Can you really blame them for trying to make up for Sam Raimi's movies? I mean in Spiderman 2, Doc Oct gave a 13 minute speech on why niggers don't deserve equal rights, citing crime statistics and 19th century phrenology.

>>85108498
What this Anon said, just less autistic. If you can't afford it pirate it. It's a good movie.

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>>85108457
>>85108466
>Have the same opinions I have! Reeeee

/v/eddit dc pajeets don't like it so it must be good
pure sonykino

>>85108492
OP here
that's the one I wanted to find in google but I was lazy. that game was so great.

>>85108466
I would be just as mad if there was shit about poor people being lazy and blacks being genetically inferior. it all belongs in a spiderman movie the same

it's just that the corporate reptiles at sony or whatever corporation shat this out know that black people love spiderman so they're taking a break from the "plot" to pander to them

>>85108448
sounds sweet. the game did suck a bit.

>>85108433
ill give it one more shot after Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman was a shit movie and any critic who thinks it's exceptional is completely lost

>>85108557
>>85108608
i dont give a fuck about sjw pandering. it is what it is. without mentioning /pol/shit, is the movie shit or not? you fucking spergs

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>>85108466
>wow it all boils down to if there virtually any representation of someone different it becomes REEEEE SJW
You'll understand big boy things one day, kid.

I really enjoyed it. But I was going in expecting an absolute shit show. The action was good, the side characters weren't unbearable, and it had a well played, partly sympathetic villain.

>>85108448
I liked the Kraven and Vulture fights in that game. The 2nd one was better

The PS1 games were better than both tho

>>85108872
>and it had a well played, partly sympathetic villain
His black wife was hot as fuck

>>85107500
SpiderFlop Spiderflop
just look at that weekend drop
Losing Cash? Holy Cow
Not even China can save it now
LOOK OUT! here comes the SpiderFlop

>>85108845
I know 4chan is dumb but goddamn. you're saying it's fine when people break the 4th wall to politically pander to the audience in a way that has nothing to do with the story, because "just ignore it or you're a sperg"

people are obviously abusing the word sperg. someone who is not a sheep-ass candy eating ass bitch dumbass fat cunt then they have some ghost version of autism

you're a sage

>>85108863
you're part of the problem but yeah. you're the other side of the coin that the stupid movie is choosing not to pander to. they're pandering to the other side of your dumbass pleb coin

>>85108845
It is good if you like capekino. As in its a comic book movie and it's a good comic book movie. It's all a good movie by itself if they never had comic books and was just kino.

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>>85108377
>REEEEEE THEY PUT BLACK PEOPLE ON MUH CAPESHIT
/pol/ is the other way buddy

>>85108377
Yeah the casting was kinda of wierd but everyone works their role so well u kinda forget that the charecters where soposed to be white in the first place

Also stop reaching so hard ur gonna pull something

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>>85108950
kek

>>85109022
>>85109007
>>85108670
>>85108557


>namecalling constitutes most of my argument

kill yourself retard

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>>85109007
>other side of the coin
>life is like a coin
daaaaaamn, you woke as fuck nigga

>>85108377
At what point was Flash shown as his rival? He was just a prick who gave Peter and his mate shit.

>>85109062
>these actors are not white constitutes my argument
Kill yourself retard

>>85109102
tv has to be the stupidest board. they just argue by not attempting to comprehend the other person's point and namecalling

this has to be why mainstream television and movies seem like they're aimed at people who are fucking stupid

>>85109022
Stop blaming our sister board for casual normalfag tier /pol/ posts by /v/edditor like that

>>85109158
I never said that anywhere. I'm a socialist, and not racist at all. I just don't like lukewarm pandering propaganda in my superhero movies because I'm not a fucking idiot

>>85108557
It a movie based in modern NY ofcorse their gonna play up the SJW stereotype

okay so this explains why mainstream television and film seems to be aimed at pleb morons.

frogposters and pol posters are morons too. spider man homecoming is most likely shit for chinese people. fuck all of ya.

>>85109227
What propaganda?
You sure do a fine job of sounding like a fucking idiot.

>>85109317
do you even have anything to say?

>what propaganda
the shit everyone in the thread is acknowledging except you. I know you don't like reading, but try reading the thread you're posting in.

>>85107500
Good parts
-Villain make sense, actually the best build up for a villain
-Characters feel real and human
-Story is short and logical, actually connects pretty well with MCU

Bad parts
-Flash is a joke (Probably the worst part about the whole movie, I don't care about black people or diversity, but at least cast someone menacing)
-Spidey senses/powers replaced by female Jarvis
-Fight scenes are bad, although final fight is good

>>85109280
I went to NY and there was just nihilism and expensive real estate. I didn't see social justice anywhere. I saw some homeless people, and drug addicts. an african man tried to sell me drugs. is that diverse?

>>85109380
He is obviously a nigger, hence his refusal to accept the undeniable. The casting for this movie is like a game, see how many minorities we can cram into our main roles

>>85108377
>>85108557
>>85108670
>>85109007
>>85109453

All fucking movies have messages/opinions in it

White genocide can't happen fast enough, you really deserve it.. my God just intolerable you clowns are.

>>85109380
>huurrr just google it
Not an argument buddy.

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>>85109227
>I don't propaganda in my superhero movies
WHAT?!? LOL look at Adolf Hitler here. Go back to /pol/!
Here at /tv/ we suck down what Hollywood churns out without question or discussion.

>>85109160
Incorrect, stupidest board is proven to be /pol/ for falling for that dumb ass pizzagate shit

I N F O W A R S

>>85109453
I'm sick of people's games, including you alt-right guys

I miss it when movies had artist elements and people didn't bicker over issues that belong in the early 1900's

the elite are finally succeeding. they've got us like stupid cattle.

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>>85109424
>Flash

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>>85109183
>our sister board
>our

don't ever speak for me again, faggot

>>85109453
>a movie set on modern New York is diverse
It MUST be a jewish conspiracy

>>85109585
but you morons keep categorizing everyone who disagrees with you as being on the opposite team

when there really is no team and you just look like a dumbass

I don't have to be from /pol/ or identify as alt-right to call a spider man movie with propaganda and a cast intentionally saturated with minorities bullshit.

you're stupid, pal. that's why 4chan is stupid. that's why these movies are stupid.

>>85109492
I never said google it. are you hallucinating? too many slurpees and pot brownies?

>>85109615
Yeah I found that weirder then """""""""Mary Jane""""""" was being black now. They replaced a Hitler youth with a brown guy.

you all are the most hopeless bunch of retards and I don't think that's a coincidence

I'm not on the right wing of the 'political spectrum' and I don't know why you idiots are assuming I am

I guess you all popped a boner and felt like a really good person when there were black characters in the shitty movie you saw

>>85109727
Not only brown, but a manlet chubby brown, even his nerdy fat friend looks more menacing.

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>>85109607
>i'm sick of people's games
>so let's ignore those that are programming the population
>if you don't ignore it you're cattle
nice iq you have there

>>85109697
Modern US is diverse, NY is diverse, why wouldn't a movie set on it be diverse? No, it must be propaganda. Your lack of actual arguments is really impressive. You might not be from /pol/ but you're really as retarded.

>>85109821
Someone's on the spectrum

>>85109697
>4chan is stupid. that's why these movies are stupid.
>posting on 4chin on the movie board
Hmm, I wonder how I know this is a shill?

>>85109890
it's that they went out of their way to cast black people, and interrupted the plot to talk about politics

if you don't think that's propaganda and pandering then you are stupid

the point is that I went to NY and didn't see justice anywhere. I just saw a lot of bullshit. there weren't like, happy gay couples prancing around. it was smelly and there were homeless people.

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>>85109890
>diverse
Why do leftists not understand what this word means? Is it all the drugs their parents did?

>>85107500
It's better than the bulk of the MCU, but that comes with some serious caveats:

If you're an actual Spider-Man fan, you're likely to hate a lot of what you're seeing.

If you liked Raimi's films, this one pales in comparison.

That said, it's got the best villain of any MCU movie so far, but that's not only not saying a whole lot, but it's also not quite enough to make this more than a solidly mediocre film. I enjoyed it, but I don't think I'd pay 15 bucks to watch it again, or even the first time if I'd seen the "guy in the chair" scene beforehand. That was the only comedy in the whole film that really hit the mark.

>>85109615
In school i can't recall Jocks who were bullys. But there were a bunch of little pricks trying to fuck my shit up. I doubt the classic Flash would have worked. That was more in line with Raimis cartoon characters.

>>85109615
Flash was a strange character. Changing his race didn't matter because he didn't actually do anything in the film. This version of Flash doesn't seem like he would make a good Venom. What is his character? Clearly not a sporty jock, apparently a DJ, apparently popular for some reason. It is strange.

I can't decide if he was put in because someone higher up said they had to, or if his character development is all in deleted scenes.

>>85109933
The fact you think I care about what you think of my psychology after I just called you an idiot is amazing. You don't even demonstrate critical thinking ability or reading comprehension. That is why you're on /tv/, because mainstream media is for absolute morons

>>85108377
The movie is garbage for plenty of other reasons. That pc/casting shit is take it or leave it.

>>85110094
Stay mad faggot, things aren't going to change. May as well kill yourself.

>>85109967
>green text
>call shill
why did you even post?

>>85109697
>I don't have to be from /pol/ or identify as alt-right to call a spider man movie with propaganda and a cast intentionally saturated with minorities bullshit.
Never implied you were, you sensitive faggot. Just stating /pol/ is the most retarded board. Sorry if that hurt your non-/pol/ browsing feelings for some unknowable reason.

>>85110151
enjoy your shit culture defeatist loser. I've confronted suicidal thoughts and gotten past them because I don't suppress my thoughts with shit media and junk food

>>85110032
>any mention of politics must be propaganda
Sorry, didn't hear any of the characters saying you must adhere to their political inclinations.
>I didn't see minorities on NY so they don't exist
Off yourself.

>>85110042
Where did I say Black Panther was diverse and how doest that even relate to my post? Try having some arguments instead of a shitty strawman.

>>85108307
You're posting on 4chan, we all know your time isn't that important

>>85110267
>I've confronted suicidal thoughts and gotten past them
We all make mistakes

>>85108377
This shit has genuinely ruined 4chan. It's like chan culture has become known for this asinine manchild tripe.

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>>85110269
>characters saying you must adhere to their political inclinations
>what is effective propaganda and how does it work
you are one stupid motherfucker

>>85110221
It actually hurts my feelings how stupid people are. That's probably some type of mental stability issue, but I can't help it. The collective stupidity of humanity makes me really upset.

>>85110269
this is a bit long but if you actually read it you'll become slightly less stupid

>characters must adhere to your political inclinations
It's not southpark or the daily show or alex jones. It's a spider man movie. I'm going to try to explain this to you since you're really stupid.

sometimes talking about politics is inappropriate and irrelevant. sometimes corporations like sony put things about politics in the movies, by telling the directors what to do, because some stupid people in the audience will get good feelings.

good feelings are good. mmm good time. but the problem is that spider man is about a kid fighting villains. it's not about politics. it's like when you want lucky charms (horsefood eating pleb) and you open it up and it's cookie crisp. cookie crisps are yummy yummy, but what you thought you purchased was lucky charms

>don't agree with
again I never said I have anything against homosexuals or minorities. you're just being a complete moron again and assuming that because I don't rub one out

>I didn't see minorities in new york
I saw plenty of minorities. How do you think I could have visited new york and not seen a minority? what is actually wrong with you? do you live in the middle of the wilderness?

I'm saying the mere presence of minorities is not social justice. I don't get a hard on when there's black people and suddenly start feeling good about myself.

>>85110517
>People complaining about random shit in movies.
Hi Reppit , I know you are new here but please fuck off.

>>85110517
you're using a lot of smart guy words so I'm interested in your opinion on something, if you will

despite your own political inclinations, how do you feel about there being propaganda in a super hero movie? do you think it's appropriate, or do you think it would be more suited for a movie that has something remotely to do with politics?

oh and don't you think that some of these idiots being reactionaries has to do with what they are reacting to?

>>85110525
>>85110533
I think Disney is more concerned about making money than SJW brownie points. You need to treat your autism buddies, not everything is le evil jewish conspiracy.

>>85110668
>>85110668
>think Disney is more concerned about making money than SJW brownie points
The issue is SJW bullying them and forcing them to enforce the diversity quota than anything.

>>85110668
I never said anything is an evil jewish conspiracy

let me ask your dumb ass a question

do you think that the fact (you just said this yourself) that Sony's main motivation being money rather than art (films are supposed to be art) might influence them to get SJW brownie points in order to increase the social popularity and impact of the movie?

you don't think in a multi-million dollar investment, Sony didn't poll what political opinions Spider Man fans have, and then insert those opinions into the movie to resonate with them?

It sounds dystopian but that's because the people writing dystopian novels weren't dumbasses. you could learn a thing or two by being more astute, less resistant to learning.

if you don't believe what I'm telling you here then either continue to live in ignorance or go do some research. with the kind of lifestyle you're living I don't think it will matter what your opinion of corporate hollywood is.

you'll probably take your ugly kids to see another corporate monstrosity of a movie after feeding them processed food that's as addictive as cocaine

while the /pol/ and alt-right insane people poison the well and cause you to retreat into your stupid narrative of what the world is like

reactionaries. idiots. not interested in learning anything.

In what world would a short indian who's an alternate on the debate team be a chad?

>>85110668
Disney thinks pandering to SJWs is getting them money. Why elso would they hire someone like Josh Weadon that brings controversy over social media? I'm not claiming it's whitr genocide and a plot of da joos, but it's pretty clear they are looking for some sort of approval through this movie. Something I liked about WW is that it managed to be just an entertaining flick even though they could have memed muh feminism like everyone expected. It's not just the cast, but how it's awkwardly portrayed in scene. Most normies that watched it sais they hated the new MJ.

>>85110829
in a world for a fucking moron who won't remember the movie but will buy more tickets to future movies

it was good in that I enjoyed the time I was watching it but I immediately forgot it after it was over

>>85110822
>hurr durr le sheeple
Holy fuck I never saw someone so dumb pretending he found some sort of hidden truth because he read 1984 or some other wank. Unironically kill yourself you underage.

>>85110851
>>85110770
[citation needed]

>>85107500
3/5 (I.e. It was fine). It isn't going to move you to tears, or change your outlook, but it was fun. It's not "bad". It's just another "good" marvel/Disney movie, production-line manufactured flick that isn't going to be listed in "Best Films of the 2010s" lists. You won't waste your money, but you probably won't want to watch it again.

>>85111017
It's interpretation from how Disney has been acting with their franchises. I doubt there's a proper academic paper on it because it's also, not an alarming issue. You are free to debate the points and issues.

>>85110822
>everyone is wrong but me
You're such a fucking blowhard know-nothing even by 4chin standards... it's fascinating. Don't miss tonight Joe Rogan podcast.

>>85109007
>break the 4th wall to politically pander to the audience in a way that has nothing to do with the story

This literally never fucking happens.

>>85110625
>knowing what's characteristic of reddit
go back

>>85111100
It's an interpretation based on nothing of worth. What is there to debate? You seem to be under the impression you have arguments.

>>85111208
>You have to be the enemy to know it.
No redditor it doesn't work that way.

>>85111017
so you can't argue with me, you can only sling insults. you're basically not standing on any kind of position because you started out just slinging insults

I would say you're more likely to kill yourself than I am. suicide is current trending.

I took all this time to share information with you that is true, and you've basically discounted it as fictional. you're actually the piece of shit here.

>>85111108
I don't even know what Joe Rogan is, so it goes to show you're watching even more stupid shit than I suspected. Enjoy your shitty movies, retard.

>>85111206
the topic of this thread has become about the soical justice messages in spider man which most of the people have defended by saying "it's not a big deal"

you on the other hand don't even think they exist.

so if you were watching Rick and Morty (you probably watch that) and suddenly Rick started talking to Morty about trans rights...you wouldn't consider that propaganda and somewhat 4th wall breaking?

there's no help for you dumbasses

>>85111278
where's your argument, stupid?

all the "propaganda in hollywood movies is okay" side has done to defend itself is characterize and name call, while the side that thinks propaganda in movies is not artist and not fair have tried their best to express themselves to a mass off fucking slurpee drinking captain crunch munching pleb morons

>>85109615
>"Petah Pahka, always late. Party par."

>>85111278
>an interpretation based on nothing of worth
you don't think you might be a hypocrite? your post is literally just you posturing yourself to sound smart, and no more content than that

that's hypocrisy my man

>>85111278
>you don't have arguments
says the guy with no argument

you guys are so unaware of your own selves and your environments that you produce nothing buy hypocrisy and name-calls

you are the type of idiots who would be eating a lot of peanut butter cups saying "go get em webslinger" not even noticing that the movie has been manufactured by people who use focus groups to design things and give no shits about spiderman

>>85111475
>>85111626
What information that's true? You're fucking delusional.
Stop samefagging.

>>85111678
I'm delusional if I think

1. preaching political messages in entertainment is propaganda
2. corporations that take IP's like Marvel, DC, and Star Wars end up being more interested in making money than preserving the franchise and producing good art
3. the two facts above affect the quality of the movie

Yeah man I'm really delusional.

>stop samefagging
you plebs are really good at focusing on what your peers are doing, but not good at focusing on much else


the creator of Spawn solely owns the IP and he's not letting any corporation take control of his movie's development, for reasons you are too dull to understand. none the less, I hope that movie turns out good (or gets financed at all) and that we both enjoy it.

I'm just trying to explain to you as another human being what is going on, but you're just defaulting to plugging your ears and name calling for some unknown reason. are you offended that we're saying the movie isn't good?

>>85111900
1. mentioning politics isn't necessarily propanda. Is a movie about Hitler nazi propaganda?
2. this is true but irrelevant to the conversation
3. again, true but irrelevant. No one is arguing capeshit is high art

Get off your high horse, holy shit. You're one dumb motherfucker.

>>85108377
Why do you keep calling one-sentence lines "speeches"? I didn't see MJ as a character put on a pedestal so much as that weird kid in high school who feels the need to be politically active - she says she's gonna go ambiguously "protest" without any cause mentioned and seems to have her head up her ass, in a small way.
Also for what it's worth the villain having a black wife made the love interest being his daughter way more surprising
Seems to me that you're desperately trying to find ulterior motives in nothing so that you can shit on things when you're the one trying to shovel your opinions down our throats.

>>85112062
>>85112062
dumb, boy

>is a movie about hitler nazi propaganda
not necessarily, but political messages inserted into entertainment is propaganda. I would much rather you just read a wikipedia page on what propganda is than have me explian it to you. you seem to be ready to disbelieve anything I say, but maybe some sourced stuff by scholars you'd be less likely to bicker about

>it's irrelevant to the conversation
what, corporations destroying IP's? no it's not. every minute of the movie that is dumbshit pandering is something that could have been cool. inserting propaganda and breaking immersion is actually something that only a corporation asking dumbasses what they want to see in movies would do. if you actually went to film school, they'd probably tell you to stick with the story rather than taking a break to talk about affirmative action

if your movie is about hitler or affirmative action or something political then talking about politics is great. that's the point of the movie!

the point of spider man is spider man. it's about fighting villains. it's about escapism. it's not about people bickering over social justice issues.

>no one is arguing that capeshit is high art
the movies manufactured by corporations are not pop culture or high culture or anything. they're just garbage, like a liter of nockoff cola.

>dumb
>high horse

just fuck off. you haven't had anything to say this whole time.

I hope I educated you a little bit about why the Mummy or whatever dumb shit you're watching shouldn't end with the mummy saying "all lives matter" or something and prancing out of the shot. You seem to think that if the mummy said "black lives matter" it would somehow be better

Do you even watch content that is actually about black people, or do you just watch shit where they insert black people for you to feel like a good person?

and kid you obviously don't have a firm grasp of what propaganda is so eat least education yourself on that a bit

>>85107997
it was a fun movie
but very very loud

>>85108377
Do those things really happen or is this just bait?

>>85108377
grampy btfo

>>85112062
>. Is a movie about Hitler nazi propaganda?
No, it's usually allied propaganda

>>85112525
Mostly just Anon misconstruing inconsequential things and getting angry because he saw a black person in a movie

>>85112532
you're a retard
read the thread before posting

>>85112525
it would lighten my mood if we all just got super trolled and it wasn't in the movie

>>85112472
all movies are loud now. you have to bring acoustic earplugs, just like concerts

>>85112466
You're the one writing walls of text after walls of text with nothing to say you dumb pseud.
>Propagandais "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view"
Please tell me how this fits into Spiderman you actual fucking retard.

>>85108377

And the fact that they shoehorned that one obvious Muslim girl in class and the two Jews in the hallway. As if they couldn't make being inclusive so obvious. cringy as fuck.

>>85112581
so you mean yes, there is propaganda in the movie

I guess that depends on the intention. at best, it's just a disconnected hollywood worker's attempt to really *resonate with the audience*

you know like when I go to see spider man and I say, "I'm also in college and self righteous and I like signaling to people how virtuous I am. When it happens in spideymon movie I get really good feelings about how righteous we are becoming as a society."

meanwhile fucking nothing happens for black people or native americans and we still bomb the shit out of the middle east

oh we live in this perfect world where we are allowed to have sex with who we want and even get married. this isn't propaganda at all *eats candy*

>>85112645
>>85112645
oh you are just confused and don't know where there is propaganda in the movie. my bad.

>>85108377
he points out where the propaganda is here

>>85112581
and here's an alternative opinion on the propaganda he pointed out

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Alright I'm glad we cleared that up and remember to drive safely

>>85110327
Best post of the night.

>>85112882
How is that propaganda? Elaborate.

>>85113010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

>>85113010
Oh fuck didn't we just discuss this. I just want this thread to end.

>>85110517
>>85110661
I want to hear this.

>>85113083
I'm aware of what is propaganda, I'm asking you to elaborate.

>>85107500
it was enjoyable
it was pretty much your standard marvel movie, but scaled down, which I like
I'd rather see heroes going around helping people (to be fair we only got one scene of that) than stopping some world-ending threat

Seeing the posts on here I thought MJ was a big deal but she was a pretty minor character and I liked her more than I thought I would.
the fat kid was standard
Flash was shallow
love interest was standard/uninteresting
I liked spidey more than I thought I would
overall I liked vulture, especially his design

overall I think its a little better than average marvel

>>85108377
>Aunt May’s “Gay is OK!” speech
when?

>>85113990
I'm assuming when she walked in on peter in his underwear with ned
I just watched the movie though and I can't remember anything gay, just told him to put on some clothes or something

>>85113782
sounds better than wonderwoman. I guess I'll still go see it if my friend wants to

>>85114070
she thought they were being gay, and said something about how that's an ok way to be etc.

>>85114135
to be fair I dont watch many movies, so go at your own risk, I haven't watched any DCEU films apart from the TDK so I can't compare it to wonderwoman, sorry
also I think some people might not like peter because he's a bit stubborn and annoying at times but I think it's justified

>>85114176
she said to put on clothes, that's it

>>85110092
they will never EVAH produce Agent Venom, let it go anon

This movie was directed by Nega-Raimi, obcessed with equality of all kinds.

>>85108377
>literally 5 seconds into the film someone is chastised for calling native Americans "Indians"
there are anal people like this all the time

>literally 10 seconds in a black school news reporter is macking on blonde white girl
it wasn't 10 seconds in and everybody macks on blonde white girls

>the new black Mary Jane's WE speech about how the Washington monument was built by slaves
wasn't a speech at all

>both of Peter Parker's love interests are black
he has one love interest and it fails

>villain's wife is black
so what?

>Peter's Mexican school rival has a white blonde girlfriend
flash isn't his rival, he's a bully and a poo in loo. also it wasn't his gf just a date that is on screen for 5 seconds

>the oh so edgy /b/ Fuck Marry Kill scene with high schoolers fantasizing about old men, also participated in by a gay male
high school girls are turbo sluts, especially the ones who are fag hags

>Aunt May’s “Gay is OK!” speech
this doesn't happen at all

kill yourself

>>85108885
>The PS1 games were better than both tho
The N64 ones ran smoother. And I liked the comic panels more than the cut scenes in the PS1 version.

>>85115129
>it wasn't 10 seconds in and everybody macks on blonde white girls
he wasn't even macking on her, it sounded like a shitty scripted joke for their high school broadcast thing because they were monotone throughout the whole thing

Came into this thread for raimiposting, extremely dissapointed

>>85115208
Yeah I'm pretty sure that was the intention. /pol/ gotta /pol/ though everywhere they go.

It was ok. Tom Holland was great, but it probably has the worst characterization of Peter Parker ever and honestly kind of feels like a Disney channel show that takes places in the MCU.

>>85107500
I thought it was really good. It handled the themes of responsibility and life/superhero balance pretty well without being preachy. Peter was a good character all around, the villain was well fleshed out and his motives made sense.

Over all I'd say it's a good character movie/comedy that also has superheros in it.

>>85108492
Escaping that nigger was annoying

>>85109585
Stupidest board is /x/. They had the lowest average score on IQ tests. /pol/ was close but /x/ won the crown of dumbest dummies.

>>85110092
we're never getting venom, because sony wants to make their own version non related to sm.

reason he was popular was because he was filthy rich.

it was a nerd school, the whole school was smart kids, so 1960's bully wasn't the way to go on this. it makes sense he's just a rich asshole. who is jealous peter is so smart/lucky despite being poor and clumsy.

>>85109615
I thought it worked for how they changed flash's character in Homecoming. In the movie he's just an asshole/popular nerd to Peter's shy nerd.

This new version of Flash is totally different from the comics, but that doesn't mean it's bad

>>85110032
>it was smelly and there were homeless people.

yeah that sounds about right

but new york is incredibly big, you probably didn't see jack shit of it or you're lying.
there's entire fag sections full of gays and dikes.
sections of all black communities, all jew, all itallian , it's a bit more mixed now than say the 90's where they really stuck to their areas. but it's still lots and lots of different cultures and colors. in a hs specialized for science yeah you're going to get every race of kids because parents want their kid to go to the best school. and a science school will trump all white school on a resume.

>>85112645
Spiderman is about a young awkward nerdy kid struggling to balance his social life with his super hero responsibilities. Not politics, not social justice. These are the characters kids look up to, thus making whichever sleezy ideology that's being pushed easier for them to swallow if it's their hero saying it.

>>85111389
>Am I fitting in now guyz?
Summer can't end any sooner

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Reddit please leave and stay in your GOT threads.
thanks

>>85108564
UNDERRATED post.

>>85108564
Yeah, the uplifting music they played during that scene was a little weird imo

Some of the cringiest shit I've seen in awhile. I understand it's a kids movie but every punchline to every joke was predictable, the characters were straight out of some nickelodeon teen drama, and the whole plot made it just seem like an iron man spinoff

>I don't trust Rotten Tomatoes anymore, not after Wonder Woman.

You shouldn't have trusted them for the past 8 years or so, not just the past month. jesus.

The fucking obese best friend got on my nerves fucking holding the main character back and being an annoying piece of fat shit REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I hate made up movie characters that didn't exist in the source material god fucking damn and he had to be fat AND brown AND ugly.

>>85113990

It doesn't. The whole fucking point of the scene is that it DOESN'T happen. I'm all for shitting on a film for being pandering, and I think this film had a number of instances where it went too far, but ffs this is not one of them. Same goes for Martin Starr saying "protest is patriotic". It might've been written to pander to the tumblr SJW crowd, in which case fuck that, but Starr's reading was so goddamn sarcastic that he actually sounded like an adult who was bewildered at how crazy his students have become these days about the whole PC shit. It actually came out really well, but I guess this board is too far down the shitter to care about details and nuance.

>>85119374

I fucking hated Ned. The film was fine and forgettable. But goddamn that character is one of the worst things I've ever seen in any Marvel film.

>>85108377
Vulture's wife and daughter have been black in the comics, too.

>>85108448
Even better? It was Harry as the Green Goblin, the Goblin you fought became the Hobgoblin, and everyone had unique dialogue for that mode.

Also, the sprint ability. Nyyyyoooooooom!

>>85119836
>But goddamn that character is one of the worst things I've ever seen in any Marvel film.
this is hyperbole

>>85119836
He's grotequesly obese for his age and bears the name of a character from the comics who used to be the Hobgoblin. That's his only offence.

>what are you doing here? Everyone's off to the dance!

>I... watch... porn.

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>>85108492
>>85107500
OUT OF MY WAY FUCKING SHITS

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>>85124094
My fucking nigger

>>85109615
My problem with this Flash is he's pretty much inferior than Peter in almost every way. He's smaller than Peter, he's less intelligent than Peter, and he's less popular than Peter among their circle. Yeah, he's rich, but that aspect barely got brought up in the movie.

>>85108307
it's an extremely generic and safe marvel movie. you'll like it you liked any of the other avengers flicks

>>85108845
so it's perfectly ok to include propaganda in a teenage superhero movie. but it's not to point it out?

>>85108845
even without mentioning all the /pol/ shit, the movie was fucking bland, emotionless, uninteresting and boring shit

>everybody tells him the movie is absolute shit
>some clueless anon says its decent
>NICE! ILL GO SEE IT THEN ;)

kys OP

>>85115129
>he has one love interest and it failed
>one
tell me you don't realise they've set up zendaya as the second one

retod

Yes, just went to see it.

My thoughts:

>Enjoyable, with some funny jokes
>Spiderman was perfectly cast
>Diversity meme wasn't as grating as I thought. The slaves thing a bit, but beyond that it was actually fairly well integrated. Bit over the top, but not awful.
>MJ was a weirdly good cast. It could have gone either way- complete diversity bait, or a solid cast, and I think it went the latter, she was surprisingly enjoyable to watch
>Michael Keaton was great. Not just monster of the week, an actual villain motivated by a legit thing, who was a real person and not a muhahaha supervillain with no life
>Thought casting May as a younger woman would be weird, but it was great.
>Had watched part of RLM's review on it- I was disappointed that Mike's description of the 'gay' scene was a bit off, I thought he meant that May literally told them they could finish jerking each other later...mommys saying or hearing bad words is a fetish I didn't know I had until recently, I may need to see a psychiatrist
>Score was a little memey, but generally fit well
>Fun ending credits
>Gratuitous Pepper Potts action
>RLM fawned over how down-to-earth and realistic the whole thing was (by comparison to other Marvel movies, to be fair), though I thought the scenes with the plane were a bit over the top.

Overall, went in thinking it'd be okay, actually really enjoyed it, looking forward to the next one

>>85108377
>Aunt May’s “Gay is OK!” speech

Just watched this in HK, in that scene just she looks at them, asks them if they want to go for dinner, then fucks off. Did the Chong censors cut something there?

>>85121273
This spidey was more fun. I enjoyed the originals but they kind of seem a little lifeless by comparison now

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>>85107500
why are black people so stupid they cant invent their own heros?

>>85110092
>apparently popular for some reason

He's rich.

That's literally it. Which makes sense - if the guy's a cunt then people are hardly going to like him because of his personality

>>85108307
it's also 5 minutes to find a camrip and watch for yourself

>>85107500
The action and cgi were shit. The script, acting, and direction was pretty good. But I don't go see a Marvel kids flick for the script and acting. Everything looked so bland. The Vulture fight at the end bored the shit out of me

>>85108845
you can not criticize it without going political, since it is a comicbook movie, so you have to compare it to the source. And the source's characters are totally replaced to trying to be politically correct. indian Flash Thompson, black crushes instead of snowwhite Gwen and MJ, etc...

Vulture get better, though, more menacing, but they went into the above area too at the end

>>85110089
>>85115587
the only real problem with the casting is that they didnt change the name like they did with nigress mj
it makes no sense for a skinny little poo in loo to be named flash thompson

I enjoyed it Senpai. Actually felt like a true spider man film. If the biggest criticism here is that it has brown people then you know its atleast halfway decent.

>>85108377
These were literally all throwaway moments. You have accounted for less than three minutes in a two-hour movie.

Oh bby I just want sum hot fuck wth aunt May
She perfect af

>>85108307
Don't listen to all of these plebbiters, the movie was shit, don't watch it. At least I'm willing to take the time to give you an honest answer that these other assholes won't do.

>>85108564
Based Raimi!!

>>85108377
White people really do need to go, or just maybe the whiny virgin types. Just crying 24/7

>>85109424
> -Flash is a joke (Probably the worst part about the whole movie, I don't care about black people or diversity, but at least cast someone menacing)

common dude, they are 15 year old kids

>>85107500
That level was so difficult to me as a kid

>The movie was decent

Says the retards in all the recent SM:H threads without ever giving a solid reason as to why it's good. FFS the movie was absolute trash, lifeless and have some of the most faggiest acting I've ever come across. What the fuck do you retard even see in this movie?

The movie is fine IFF you can get past the minority shoving and avengers references, of which there are a lot.

>>85127584
RLM are all fucking hacks though so do they really count?

>>85127584
I'm buying the blueray of the Sam Rami spiderman off half.com

Fuck Disney, Fuck Sony. We have had enough spiderman movies

>>85107500
It was great. My only problem was the sidekick character doing the "you're spider-man!?" thing way too fucking much.

I wish it had some PoV shots though.

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>>85127752
It isn't even that. It's white people inserting black actors into roles of white characters to add diversity. However, the diversity in Homecoming actually has a purpose for a twist near the end, and Flash being an asian plays better for him being Peter's intellectual rival rather than physical.

Not big on MJ being brown, but they got her character right. Kind of, it's a different form of hiding her feelings.

>>85110517
>4chan was ever not shit

This is how I know you are talking out of your ass little baby. Go back to your Tumblr hugbox.