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Why does this embarrassing cringe shit keep getting screentime

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Do the showrunners not realize how bad this is?

Little girls don't talk or act like that. it's like a really bad Japanese anime
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>mad at a young queen slaying
Stay buttblasted, nerd.
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>>85062029
Its a fantasy story kill youself /pol/
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>>85062029
They have no idea what the fuck they're doing and are just pandering to their tumblr fanbase at this point.
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>>85062063

I am mad. it's immersion breaking. Get this character OFF MY SCREEN. everything she says is immersion breaking, how she's allowed to be talking battle plans with them, how the adults let her speak to them , everything. Is she some HBO boss's kid? this is pathetic.
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>>85062112

oh right I forgot on top of a loli war general who talks like an adult, she's also a strong feminist

not from /pol/ though just identifying bullshit. This crap is so lame
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it was always like an anime. have you seen the original pitch for the series?
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>>85062112
>thinks a terribly written meme character is terrible
>must be pol
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>>85062029
>it's like a really bad Japanese anime
It really took you like 5 seasons to get this?
Fucking normies...
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>>85062162
but there was no problem when any of the male kids who held high positions did the same thing?
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>>85062489

no because they were portrayed as kids who were out of their element

They made her some cringey wise loli war general. It's one of the most embarrassing things I've seen on television
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>>85062725
Not saying you're completely wrong but she was the daughter of the guy in charge of that castle right? Usually the higher up you are, the more education and formal training you receive. I don't remember exactly how she spoke, and I do remember it striking me as a bit much also, but just something to keep in mind.
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i don't even remember half the casts names because their characters are so utterly fucking boring.
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>>85062029
Someone post the Maisie in Britain copypasta but with that little cunt
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>>85062029
>being this upset at a fictional character

lol I bet you screamed into your pillow this morning when you heard that a WOMAN is going to be playing anything other than an object of sexual attraction on the new Dr Who
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>>85062063
I agree, it's ridiculous and difficult not to cringe.
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>>85062113
This. Lord Glover would have kicked her in the stomach across the room was my only thought.
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>>85062946
And her companion love interest will be the blackest nigerian, screencap this.
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>>85062814
Most of the Mourmonts are dead so she became acting head by default. Alianating her would cause more discord in the North which they can't afford right now.

Also if you hate her so much you might get to see her die on the battlefield.
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>>85062029
Don't forget the shit compilation. I love how they go right for the most retarded television shit when they have no more book scenes to copy. Where the fuck are you anti book faggots now? Shit is off to a bad start.
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>>85063037

not him and I'm not objecting to the fact that she was made head of her family. I'm objecting to the way she acts. It's so jarring
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>>85063037
I think you misinterpreted my post. Never said I hated her, just sort of agree with OP that it was a bit much, but wanted to tone his opinion down since (regardless of how many died ahead of her) there are still a lot of people there, and she's in charge now, she must've been pretty decently off with daily life. So it's not unlikely she learned proper table manners, had whatever education they can provide, etc.
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>>85062029
Bear loli mad as hell jon gave her a castle (dick)
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I kind of liked bear loli, but OP is starting to convince me.
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you must be children or extremely bored trolls to be complaining about this scene. the actress is very good and holds her own with all the adult actors. the character makes perfect sense. the writing is on point and drives the story. i can't imagine what any real person who likes this show would find at fault. you have to simply be a contrarian to be upset at such a minor role that is actually done very well.
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>>85062029
this show is nothing but wall to wall embarrassing cringe, why single her out
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how pussified this board has become?

loli mormont in the last season was enjoyed by most of /tv/ because of course a loli is gonna be popular here...but now?after this political crap?the pussies here just bitch about any kind of woman showing up on screen.Pathetic
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>>85063380

it has nothing to do with the actress, it's just badly written. Her character, and her interactions with the other characters, is all crap.

Im guessing the scenes with her are OC and not from the books?
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>>85063314
but she already has a castle
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She's great.
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>>85062112
>feminist power fantasy character is ruining every scene she's in
>calling a spade a spade means I'm /pol/

Guess I'm /pol/ now
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>>85063618
maybe re-watch previous seasons if you think the writing has gotten worse. it's gotten better. maybe you have forgotten.
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>>85062029
> Do the show runners not realise that their show which was once known for its 'gritty' "realism" is not absurd?
The show runners are Jews anon. They will always push for equality and diversity and they will always attempt to 'correct' assumptions regarding sex, age and race regardless of how improbable it is.
Danaerys is forced as the hero (complete with an orchestral score during entrance) because she is:
> a. a woman.
> b. accompanied by a vanguard consisting of a super intelligent black woman, a black eunuch (so effectively sexless) "male", a bald white eunuch and a disfigured outcast dwarf.
For the same reasons they will always shit on the nobility (always shown to be worse than the peasants besides a few exceptions who were rejected by other nobles) and any other traditional values or structures.
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>>85063810
*now
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>>85063380
>Good actress
hahahahahahhahahahhaha

>Some bitch ass kid over acting = good acting
Manginas these days...
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>>85063810
This is also why they hate Stannis so much. They are instinctively repulsed by him.
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WE WUZ KANGS
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>>85063787
I don't see how anybody could possibly argue the writing has gotten better. GRRM's tone and style has been out the window for some time now, as has the soul from his work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15-op9n7FO8&t
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the bear island scene was fine. everything after that was shit. the scene in winterfell where she's the 'voice of reason' and is the first person to call for jon to be the king in the north was beyond stupid and ruined the whole scene.
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>>85062029
>We can't win this war if half the population is fighting
Yeah so now half the population isn't providing food, nursing the wounded, or any of the shit that goes down behind the front lines
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>>85063037
>>85062814
FFS shes the lady of a faraway island with like 50 soldiers in total. House Glover would stomp on them, its very unrealistic that she would yell at their Lord and basically tell him to shut the fuck up like she did
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>>85063922
>hahahahahahhahahahhaha
hahahahahahhahahahhaha
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unironically can't wait to see her slay a bunch of white walkers and save those old white men. literally btfo the patriarchy in one scene
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>>85063748
>calling a spade a spade means I'm /pol/

that's how it feels now a days desu
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>>85063985
because grown men were scared of fighting so she had to bitchslap them all
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>>85063975
>GRRM's tone and style has been out the window for some time now
maybe that's why it's more flattering for tv. that's what i think.
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Is one guy going around making dumb GOT threads? Get a life dude and leave lady Mormont alone she's cool.
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>>85062112
>le everyone who disagrees with me is /pol/ face
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It is strange that the lords of Bear Island are comfortable with taking orders from a little girl who, in all honesty, probably doesn't know jack shit about the world, how to rule, or even what's going on.

Though, I don't think it's totally unbelievable that this could be the one exception to the rule; that Bear Island nobles have a proud history of loyalty, and feel that since she is the rightful ruler after her family was killed in the wars, that they'd be willing to prop her up and educate her to take charge merely out of respect for her father/brother/uncles whatever that were in line ahead of her.
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>>85062029
they gave up trying to make it good a couple seasons ago
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>>85064069
The show has very clearly become a pop hit laced thoroughly with feminist banter, deus ex machina coincidences to drive plot, and at-the-last-possible-second style twists.

A far cry from a show that was once known for its brutal grit and a fantasy depiction of medieval barbaism...
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>>85064035
delete this post before the writers see it
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>>85063936
>>85063810
No shit, Stannis is tough and dutiful so they portray him as a callous piece of shit (burning his daughter) for no reason before they show him getting 'rightly' BTFO'd, they can't help themselves. Instead, Danaerys or pansexual Pedro will always be portrayed as the heroes by (((them))) in order to hawk toys, games and ads to the legions of Facebook normie goyim and to manifest their own view of humanity.
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>>85064222
who would be impressed by just "barbarism"? 90% of this show has been drama since the beginning. that's what has always made it work. if you are only in it for sex and violence you don't really understand or appreciate the show. i understand because i was 16 once too but you really can't judge a show by what you wack off to.

"feminist banter" is the response of a woman who owns dragons asserting herself against her rapists. "deus ex machina" do you really believe the original stories were better than this?

you have to really take a step back and understand that this is a popular tv show and enjoy it for what it is. resolving a book series in a way that exceeds the author's grasp and ability.
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>>85062029
lolis about to slay some white walkers
I cringed as well.
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>>85064456
I prefer fantasy to mirror the real world exactly.
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>>85062029
How about this for an idea? If you don't have pubic hair, you don't get to be tough.
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>>85062029
>Little girls don't talk or act like that.
They also don't plan an elaborate way to kill off an entire family of people at a feast in an act if revenge but here we are. It's fantasy my dude.
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Does this show get good at all?
I've seen season one and some of season 2 and i didn't have the patience to go on.
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>>85064010
The Bears are a small but strong House.
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>>85065711
season 4 episode 10 is the last ever episode you should ever watch. everything else after that is pure tumblr video montage with complete feminist propaganda.
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>>85066217
I never understand how people can get so buttblasted and triggered over literally nothing.
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>>85062029
Have you read any fantasy novels? The amount of 6 - 8 year old old kids who are strong and independant is groundbreaking.

Also girls in the middle ages had to be independant. Hard times then unlike now
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>>85062029
>watching this with my brother
>op scene is about to end
>brother says this show is worse than i remember and leaves the room

i agree though child actors and feminist pandering has got to go
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>>85062063
YASSSSSSSSS QUEEN SLAYYYYYYYYYY
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>>85062063
>>85062112

Paid shill psyop posters
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>>85063467
Pedoposter
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>>85063467
>loli
Pedoposter
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>>85062029

Why is she so smug?
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THAT FEEL WHEN DA BEARS ISLAND WINS THE THRONESB OWL

THANK YOU BASED MORMONT
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ITT: Strong women make me ANGRY and I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE

Pic related. She's a badass, and your tears are delicious. Kids like her had to manage houses and shit all the time in medieval ages. Cry about it.
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>>85067834
because she answered da cull
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>>85062029

They just had to fucking insert a 'I AM STRONK WOMAN I NEED NO MAN' bullshit in there didn't they
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>>85067922
>strong man is strong

Woo! Yeah! That's my man!

>strong woman is strong

REEEEEEEEEEEE STOP EMASCULATING ME REEEEEEE

grow the fuck up
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>>85062063
>>85062112
Sad to see what /tv/ has become.

/pol/ is the cancer.

>>85062162
>hating on General Loli

You know ASoIaF has been fucking unrealistic bullshit since the 90s. As a reader since then, shut the fuck up. Sometimes shit can just be cool.
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>>85062063
>>85062112
>>85068147
>>85067944
>>85067902
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>>85068147
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>>85062029
This is the dumbest fucking post I've read today, good job.
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>>85062029
>GoT would be better as an anime cause they could go all out with crazy scenes

fuck...
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>>85067907
>>85068147

NO, seriously. In real life that girl is so qquiet and bitchy....

Just take a look to this videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3PzySbv-Zc
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>>85068411
they already do tho
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Too much cringy shit this episode. Like when that Grey joy was talking to cersei, or the scene with Sam doing all those chores, and even the end where it cuts right when khaleesi says "shall we begin?"
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>>85068215
ask nicely, nerd
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>>85068534
why is that cringey? because you can't possibly imagine yourself talking like that to a woman you're interested in, right? UGHH SO CRINGGEEEE

lemme know when your puberty ends so we can talk like grownups not manbabies
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>>85068451
:333
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>>85062029
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>85068147
Fuck off back to r e d d i t then faggot. God I hate faggots like you.
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>>85068147
>if you don't agree with me you're from reddit

kek

I see you r_td. Also fuck you for ruining /pol/.

The redditor is you.
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>>85062162
Dude it's a work of fiction.

If you don't like it shut the fuck up and watch something else.
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>>85068820

>anything I don't like is reddit

I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I tolerated a comment being just below the meme arrows, fuck you. I bet your room is filthy as shit too
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>>85063123
Then stop watching you tasteless fucking faggot
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>not realising she's a parody of Trump
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Dude strong womyn lmao
>dies in one punch by any average male warrior
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>>85064005
There's no food to provide in winter.

They are about to fight a zombie army, it isn't realistic to have half your population not on the front line when they horde hits you.
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>>85062029
Every single person citing feminism as thier primary issue with GoT right now is a tiny dicked fag who probably hasn't gotten laid in months.
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>>85069158
What does this have to do with feminism, retardo? She's written like an animu character.
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>>85062113
It's really sad to see people who have time and emotions invested into this crappy show that can't see this
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>>85062029
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>>85062029
Lyanna Mormont is no ordinary little girl, boy
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>>85069158
>who probably hasn't gotten laid in months
>months
If only.
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>>85069158
>who probably hasn't gotten laid in months
>in months
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>>85068901
>meme arrows
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
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You know you fucked up if /tv/ doesn't like the little girl character. /tv/ likes literally every other little girl on TV.
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>>85069579
sir, what are you implying?
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Guess what faggots,

Over half of the population is female. This shitty character caters to female fantasies. Females buy HBO subscriptions.

Males, on the other hand, torrent tv shows, lel.
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>>85069579
neo/tv/ actively hates young actresses and holds group therapy sessions on irc every time a picture of a young girl is posted
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>>85069579
>lol pedos amiright
Fuck off, not everyone on this board is like that you fuck.
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>>85062029
>Don't talk or act like that
>act
>it's literally a little girl acting
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>>85062162
BITCH DONT NEED YOUR PERMISSION, CIS SCUM, HAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>85062029
Whats the matter you can't handle GURRRRRLLL POWURRRR you insecure straight white male? Some day she's gonna grow up and get pregnant with a black baby and you can't tell her not to.
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Why do sexually frustrated misogynistic virgins keep watching this show and then complaining?
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>>85069158
i want normies to leave
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i rolled my eyes so hard at this scene i almost became blind
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>>85069606
>>85069741
>>85069785
Oh, excuse me sirs, I forgot that GoT threads are just normies from other boards coming to discuss their normie show
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>>85062029
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>>85062113
Literally this and fucking Dany. People only like her because she has tits and is somewhat hot
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>>85069673
>Males, on the other hand, torrent tv shows, lel.

Because computers, unlike their skinnier boyfriends, are hard.
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>>85069158
>citing how poorly the characters are
>citing that the normie fanbase and tumblr is the reason for this, to pander to them.
>ad homining that if you notice this, you're a virgin
Worship the pussy and put it on the pedestal
you're a beta faggot
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>>85069673
probably true but
> 80% of the killers of children as women
solution?
chop chop dad
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>>85069158
Try 5 years
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>>85062029
>Little girls don't talk or act like that.
this nigger
but they do ride around in dragons right?
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>>85071118
Hahaha spot on bro. Why would you expect good characters in a show for children?? Hahaha why watch it if you're not 12 yorself
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>>85071118
>just turn your brain off bro , its a fantasy setting
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>>85069158
t. beta orbiter
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>>85070088
kys pedo cunt
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>>85071275
Umm excuse me children are reading this thread. It's for a kids show
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>>85063380

i legitimately hope you kill yourself, redditor

at the very least you can leave this board and never come back
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>>85062029
Nigga why do you still watch this crap?
The show became steadily worse after rob died.
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>>85062162
>immersion breaking
I thought it was pretty true to how a young person thrust into a Queens role would act if being taught by the right people. I think you are just too autistic.
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It's the same deal with the "women are just as strong as men" meme. Ridiculous shit like Brienne beating the hound in a fight. Strong womyn meme.

The creators and directors of game of thrones are Jewish, that should tell you something
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>>85068451
Cute!

Cute!
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>>85062029
Damn she aged like a true Brit.

She'll be looking like a Habsburg with that chin by the time she makes it to the next season.
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women are strong, guys, get over it
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>>85070855

It's a woman m8. Women are the ones who always go for the generic 'lel virgin' insults.
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>>85062162

SLAY EM
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>it's fantasy
Is the most retarded argument ever.
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>>85062112
>It's a fantasy world
>It's an alternate version of WW1, I swear
>It's an alternate universe without whitey where they were KANGZ
Fuck off already
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>I'm an autistic white dicklet and my worldview is shattered when women don't act like my demure submissive waifu

what do pink boys mean by this
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>>85073938
>implying numales don't think and argue like women
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>>85068147
>>>/reddit/
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>>85062029
reddit likes her
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>>85063618
> from the book
GRRM has no pages
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>>85068820
Is writing in paragraphs where each one represents a different idea considered a reddit thing?
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>be from the women fuck bears and eat men isle of hard people where women and men both are regarded for being hard asses
>raised as a successor despite gender
>young
If you dont think a privileged childing little mouthy cunt wouldnt be waiting for a chance to shoot her mouth off and assert her voice in the room youre the fucking moron

also I like the character. glad they brought her back.
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>>85062029
Whatever you think about the acting, anyone who'd rather halve their odds of surviving an ice zombie invasion than let women fight deserves to die for their retardation.
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>literally 60% of the episode was "WE STRONG WOMEN AND WE DON'T NEED NO MAN"

What the fuck is going on here?
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>>85070481
>hot
lmao, she's a fucking bloated fatty now
she was only good looking in S1/S2
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>>85077218
OP's post didn't even talk about that scene, but it's nice you felt that you had to say that. But you're wrong anyways. It's extremely detrimental for any human society to send their women to fight, which is why it's completely unheard of in history
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I don't mind the queen slay bullshit but cockney girls have the most dreadful voice.
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>>85077592
ok
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The show's formula got transparent when the lesbian greyjoy acted like the caricature of one of the evil men ("gonna fyck yer tits") but was framed as a bad ass instead of the usual (the guy dies).

People saying it's pandering to tumblr shit are wrong, cause that would still require some subtlety. It's fanfic as if imagined by children playing
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My university hosts Game of Thrones showings in the huge auditorium. It's pretty fun but the following sequence is cringy as fuck to be witness to. Every episode.

>Women are silent through out the film
>Dany comes on
>they woo and lose their shit, cheering for Dany
>spectacled and/or balding beta orbiters start cheering, peeking towards the corner with the loudest girls
>Please notice me, I follow strong womun leaders
>girls dont give a fuck, beta orbiters look at one another and be silent again
>It's like an echo

Danyfags do not get laid, ever. Cringy as hell.
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>>85069158
DESU i havent been laid in years but i sext my internet boyfriend every night and send lewds back and forth. Does that count?
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>>85062029
>because muh strong women
Literally Tumblr power fantasy, a little girl who apparently does nothing, but stands up every now and then to tell the evil useless white men what to do and how to do it.
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>>85078133
I keep imagining the level of disgusting I would have to be to act like this about my own gender and woop when some man enters the screen like a Al Bundy scene

I just can't imagine. That amount of petty hatred, chauvinism and emotional sexist investiment to just end up as a childish and ineffective whimper, impotently cheering at a corporate soap opera with dragons and little girls bad asses
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>>85076863
They're not paragraphs and they don't represent different things.
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>>85078394
WWWWOOOOO HOOOOOOOO

GO DONATELLO! YAAS KING, MEN RULE

YAS SPLINTER, WOMEN SUCK
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>>85063467
I enjoyed loli Mormant last season as well. Didn't think the way she acted was jarring...my issue is they repeat the same shtick with her over and over
>glances sideways at Jon Snow as he speaks with a serious face of approval.
>one of the lords speaks
>she lays the smack down on him with stolen valor

It was cute once or twice, but now it's a gimmick
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Why the fuck is everyone getting so triggered over this?
>young girl raised with honor as central value
>put into situation with adults who have been made less honorable by their experience in the world
>shames them because they are not honorable
>talks about simple values with the wholesome adherence of a child
She's not some super badass, she's a kid in power who was raised well, who adheres to the values she was raised on, like LITERALLY ANY CHILD. and even better, now that the battle has been won, that value is now showed to have been worthwhile. She might as well be saying "na na na na boo boo" to the others.
The reason she comes across as badass is because she's surrounded by bitch baby oath breakers.
She's like a cute little reminder of how far off track everyone else got from the central values their civilization is based on.
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>>85079000
>She's like a cute little reminder of how far off track everyone else got from the central values their civilization is based on.

Raised well to represent the values of arming women and children to fight in a war?
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>>85079091
You're right, they should've had the small girl child take the opposite position and say that the girls and children should stay at home.
That would line up well with her values of honor and not abandoning her king.
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>>85079091
well, training the boys and the girls is the common practice of bear island, so it would be pretty fucking stupid for her to reject the idea.
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>>85078158
post pusy
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>>85077639
>Completely unheard of
You think in thousands of years with countless human societies, NOT ONE of them have sent their women to fight? A lot of countries TODAY send their women to fight. The best soldiers go to war, whatever their gender, and the rest of the population handle the rest. If you'd rather have pasty white basement beta than let's say Venus Williams fighting in your war, you're actually retarded
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>>85077639
Hahahaha nice bait
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahomey_Amazons
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>>85079540
A lot of countries send their women to fight (in the west) these days because the nature of conflict is different. Western countries mainly do highly detailed and organized military operations in countries that are hundreds of miles away, not conventional warfare.
>The best soldiers go to war, whatever their gender, and the rest of the population handle the rest. If you'd rather have pasty white basement beta than let's say Venus Williams fighting in your war, you're actually retarded
You're so fucking wrong it isn't funny. Societies should not send women to fight wars, even if some of them were better than men, because women are not as expendable as men are from a biological perspective. 1 man + 10 women = 10 children, 1 woman + 10 men = 1 child. Do you get this basic fact of biology or what..? Especially in a society like GoT which is a faux-medieval one: if you lose too much of your female population in a war your country can't most likely recover the population fast enough.

Tribe A sends only its men. Tribe B sends only its women. Tribe C sends an even mixture of men and women. We'll assume that men and women have equal fighting capacity, to make the calculation easier. All parties lose 90% of their army, and Tribe C suffers a 50/50 rate between male and female. The armies return home.
Tribe A has 1000 women and 100 men. Each man beds ten women. In two years, they have 2000 children for the next generation's war.
Tribe B has 100 women and 1000 men. It doesn't really matter how many men the women bed. In two years they have 200 children for the next generation's war. They lose immediately.
Tribe C has 500 men and 500 women. In two years, they have 1000 children for the next generation's war. Tribe A outnumbers them 2:1, and the odds get worse every generation. They will eventually lose.
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>>85079252
It would line up well with her position of protecting the future of her people while also helping Jon realistically you snarky retard.
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>>85079902
cont.
Which is why it makes zero sense, even in GoT, for armies to use women. The only scenario where using women would make sense is if they had an infinite amount of supplies and could arm and feed, but this is unlikely. Actually the smartest route would be to feed an arm as many men as you can (and as many women as possible on top of that in an apocalyptic scenario), and possibly even evacuate women and children to a safer place. What >>85077218 said is definitely one of the worst routes to take.
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>>85079975
Explain why she would ever go against that, when bear island trains it's girls as well.
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>>85079540
What a pathetic post. You had to bring the argument to its extremity of "so you think NO WOMAN has ever fought in a war?" to be able to string those sentences together.
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>>85080054
Bear Island trains them to fight in battles alongside regular infantry?

My bad then, it is just GRRM's shit world building that is the problem here.
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Not sure why this is bad. Out of all the houses , they were one of the few who actually sent men.
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>>85080155
I don't know if they are infantry, but they train them because they kept getting wrecked by wildlings and ironborn when the men were away.
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>>85062489
Yes. Because males are better suited for leading obviously.. Its a human trait that should be very obvious for someone old enough to be on this board
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>>85064005
>lets send a bunch of untrained kids and women that will surely be massacred against an army that can raise the dead
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>>85064010
She has a lot of sway with the king of da norf right now. Being one of the few houses that pledged loyalty to jon while glover had to beg for forgiveness. She's first in line for the stark/targaryen seed.
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>>85062489
you mean joffrey the most hated character ever or the tit sucker who everyone laughs at and is disgusted by?
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>>85080539
>lets train the untrained
Wow what a fucking stupid show, reeee
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>>85080746
Not him, but other than sniper and pilot what other role are women potentnially suited for that wouldnt be more worth it for her to provide other forms of support?
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>>85062029
OP confirmed never having visted Scotland and heard 11 year old glaswegian girls calling each other cunts
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>>85080746
wait, not even women and children think like this, they know they are weak

are you a dude who never did anything physical ever?
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>>85080944
>oi cunt dya fancy a shag?

Wyd?
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>>85079638
>women are so few in combat that you can actually name the unit , because unlike male units in ww1 they wont be sent by their commanders to be wiped out in one battle
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>end times, everyone will die if we dont do something scenario
>"we need to train everyone capable of fighting"
>wtf u are stupid women and children shouldnt fight, what if they die

yall niggas stupid
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>>85081146
>that soldier will be totally chill and eficient if he sees a woman in pain or a child hurt.

>women wont get in your way

>if a soldier is hurt, women can totally drag him

>i'll talk like a nigger

fag
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>>85081023
And how is that relevant to what I said?
Just because you fart everywhere doesn't mean everyone is interested in your bodily smells. The same is true of your posts.
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>what's a regent or a regency council?
Any decent plot would have the girls decisions be made by her regent.
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Do people in this thread even considered the fact she could be acting a like a leader and whatnot to try to get into Jon's pants when she's older and to have her get into a higher position within the North?
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>>85081146
>"we need to train everyone capable of fighting"
I already addressed this my friend, right here >>85080036. They could never arm everyone, they don't have enough food or supplies. They can only arm a certain amount of the population, and those all should be men because of the reasons previously given.
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>>85066377
>Have you read any fantasy novels
No.
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>>85081463
Actually your post was so stupid and irrelevant I didn't bother replying to it. It had nothing do with my point or argument
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>>85081146
outside of slaves and sluts i've never seen a woman fight or even held a sword other than that tall bitch
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>>85081487
this
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>>85081522
But anon, women have to shut up, be passive, and listen to the men.
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>>85081587
>reply to post
>"b-but it's not like I replied to your post or anything, b-baka"
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>>85080249
It's not that. The problem is that they try to paint this grim world somewhat comparable to middle ages where the strong rule and everybody's ruthless but then throw an 8 year old as the queen and everybody's just cool with it because the script says so. Why is there no queen regent taking care of affairs until she reaches adulthood? That's how it was always done in the real world that GoT claims to be influenced by whenever it fits their argument.
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>>85081522
uh no cuz she's a strong independent gyrl that needs no man and will rule the north and the seven kingdoms all by herself.
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>>85081721
I'm not >>85081023
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>>85081629
In a Feudal stratified society, yes.
Not even /pol/ but this looks like the Ghostbusters defense. Insert as much "feminism" as possible to render your product immune to criticism.
Mind the quotation marks, I know GRRM is a feminist and this is part of why his female characters are awesome but in Got we basically get "le stronk woymenz" who don't fit the setting at all.
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>>85069673
There are already a lot of ACTUALLY interesting female characters on this show, ASoiaF in general is pretty anti-feminist since it portrays women as being just as morally complex as men.The cringey pandering defeats the entire purpose of the story. Daenerys will probably marry an African refugee next season.
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>>85081541
hey retard, if theyre arming them, they clearly have the means to supply them.
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>>85062897
>that filename
lmao
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>>85062029
Even the mosst autistic weeb shit is not this bad anon.
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>>85081805
Yeah. The whole point of the thread is that the scenario is stupid and unrealistic. Thanks for finally agreeing.
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>>85081801
>ASoiaF in general is pretty anti-feminist since it portrays women as being just as morally complex as men
This is what GoT does to people...
Portraying women as morally complex is feminist, not anti-feminist. Feminism strives for equality. Only tumblr and "social media activists" imply the superiority of women. I mean I see your point but you are essentially talking about superficial "pop-feminism"

>Daenerys will probably marry an African refugee next season.
Oh please, we all know she is going to marry Jon.
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>>85062029
Little girls are leading armies now, boys.
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>>85081801
>ASoiaF in general is pretty anti-feminist since it portrays women as being just as morally complex as men
I know there are many kinds of feminism, from screaming women stripping in churches to inbred bigots fighting gay marriage and infant formula, but really? Really? I don't think so man. I hope this is bait but just in case it's not, I urge you to educate yourself on what feminism is, asap.
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It's a dark gritty world, men are evil cowards, noblemen rape their sisters, brute force tramples good men

But Princess Kenny's little girl magic destroys everything like feminist dragon fire
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>>85081994
I meant feminist as in the modern-day version, where men are to be blamed for everything and women are wise, superior, magical beings. So it's anti-modern feminist because it doesn't constantly make the women complete victims of men even as it's set in a feudal patriarchal society. Yes, by the first-wave definition, it is feminist though.
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>>85082088
>implying Goodman isn't the best warrior in the show
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>>>/pol/
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>>85082124
Yeah, well I get your point but you are seriously using the terms in an arbitrary manner mate. Modern day feminism isn't what you think it is. You are talking about internet-shit when you say "modern-day version" which is not the same; it doesn't have much to do with what happens in let's say gender science of feminist political philosophy.
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>>85082124
Feminism is feminism, not whatever /pol/ distorted version of feminism you have in mind.
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>>85082347
Feminism isn't a hive mind. The original premise that "women being portrayed as complex humans is feminist" is wrong, since there are types of feminism that hold women as the inherently more virtuous and superior sex and that everything negative done by women is caused by men or masculine culture.
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>>85080362
Just because males are better suited for leading on average doesn't mean that no women ever are well suited for leading.
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>>85082501
>there are types of feminism that hold women as the inherently more virtuous and superior sex
Feminism's goal is equality between men and women. Obviously, there is a clear contradiction with the people you're talking about here.
Many different kinds of feminism are born because people have different opinions on how to reach that goal, not because some want women to be equal to men while others want to be superior.
Just because they call themselves feminists doesn't mean they are.
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The North is getting down to business to defeat the White Walkers, but this time women are joining the fight. Little Lyanna Mormont's feminist speech on Game of Thrones proved that she won't let women be left out of this great war, no matter how much the men try to stop them. (Hey, sounds a little like how our real world is right now.)

"I may be small and I may be a girl," she said, "but I am every bit of Northern as you ... I won't be knitting by the fire while men fight for me."

Personally, I would prefer it if both men and women had the option to either fight or knit — but this is not an ideal world, and I love that women are being allowed to train and fight on Game of Thrones right along with the men. That's rarely something that we see in real life, and far too often we see fantasy shows like Game of Thrones stick to old-fashioned patriarchal traditions.

Lyanna is just the best, isn't she? Sansa and Brienne were certainly impressed with her. Westeros needs more leaders like her — sound, stern, and forward-thinking. Her speech also set up a theme for the episode, and maybe the season as a whole. The idea that girls stay home and boys go to fight other people's wars was reinstated by the Lannister soldiers that Arya Stark encountered on the road — but these women aren't about that life.

Change is finally coming to Westeros, both with Daenerys' bold strokes and smaller movements like this. As a feminist fan of the show, I couldn't be more thrilled. Especially because speeches like these are motivational outside of the show as well. We live in a political time when women are fighting and resisting and taking their power back — and Lyanna gave us a rallying cry we can all stand by.
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>>85081913
what is stupid and unrealistic, that they have the means to arm more people than are currently fighting? First the thread was 'little girls dont act this way", then it was "women and children cant fight as good" then it was "it doesnt matter, its not realistic for them to have the means to arm them anyway"

literally moving the goalpost

if an apocalyptic army of undead fucks is marching their way down, my daughters need to be able to at least put up a fight.
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>>85082696
>Feminism's goal is equality between men and women. Obviously, there is a clear contradiction with the people you're talking about here.
No there isn't. "Feminism is about the equality between men and women" is a blanket statement that doesn't actually tell anything, as the words can be interpreted in many ways. Every societal ideology, whether it is communism, fascism, anarchism, neoliberalism or monarchism has the same goal: "a society that is just, good and the best for everyone" but how their ideology is implemented differs a lot. This is why you also have to look at the method and philosophy behind the ism, rather than just the blanket dictionary description.

As it stands there are women who are held in high regard in most feminist communities, are widely recognized as influential feminist icons that think all men should be put into concentration camps. Equality is a word that has a lot of definitions
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>>85062029
Bear loli is one of the best things left in this shitpile
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>>85062029
She looks like Amai Liu
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>>85080036
Using women in medieval combat is literally retarded. Army size if limited by supply issues: food and equipment. Need tight formations to survive cavalry charges. Woman are weaker so formations would break easier and generally would lose to male soldiers fighting them. No shortage of men due to the size of the population versus the size of the feudal levies throughout the medieval era. There is a reason why basically no civilization has ever used women in large numbers for combat.
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>>85062029

Because people on Facebook like it, and early 20-something bloggers who live in NYC and around Silicon Valley can write articles about how cool she is.

This show is fucking awful.
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>>85062029
Stares down older lord, says I am le brave too audience claps. Repeat for every scene she is in.
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>>85082849
If you actually bothered to read the other side, you'd notice that in my post >>85080036 I sat " The only scenario where using women would make sense is if they had an infinite amount of supplies". I literally said that if they have infinite supplies arming the women makes sense. No goalposts were moved, you're just strawmanning hard.
>"women and children cant fight as good"
Never said this.
>'little girls dont act this way",
Or this
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>>85065543
You don't understand why bear loli is badly written then if you can compare her to Arya with a straight face. Not only is Arya about 17-18 in the show. She's also had 7 seasons of character development to at the very least explain how she is able to do that. Bear loli is just like that because the writers thought it would be cool and it sucks you right out of the show.
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>>85082917
I understand what you mean but I still think you're doing quite the mental gymnastics here. Sure people can go many ways about one goal, but a definition is, by definition, a limitation. I feel it's clear cut enough, and I don't consider these people feminists.
Really it just looks like you want to include feminazis into feminism. Suit yourself, but I disagree. Just like Lenine and Marx probably wouldn't consider modern day China to be a communist country, I, as a modest individual don't consider these people feminists.
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>>85067902
You're just trolling right?
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>>85062489

Cersei was doing all she fucking could to make her kids kings (and then rule through them), john was literally bred to lead, it's part of being groomed for lordship. That shit was also done from when he was young, remember these fuckers are 'men' at 15 or so. And even with that he faced huge resistance (and eventual betrayal) from his 30-40 year old underlings. None of the children characters have ever had and kept a group together.
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>>85067902
what is a regent
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>>85062162
She's queen of the Spartans man. And Spartans don't take it easy on you just because you're their Queen, they raise you to put the Spartans first at all times.
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>>85068825

>It's fiction so it's allowed to be completely separate from its own consistency.

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>85062063
YAAAAAS
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>>85083653

Then by that logic, the adult spartans would still be easily stronger, wiser, and more proficient at all tasks than her, invalidating her character just based on that alone.
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>>85062029
leave my waifu alone

>cocks glock 19, 1911, sig p228,
>clicks back hammer on colt python, and some old ass .22 revolver
>unshealthes countless knives
> picks up civil war saber
>war face
>pic related for you
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>>85063936

Was it George R.R. or HBO that had Stannis burn his daughter?
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>I don't want my 10 year old granddaughter to fight the fucking snow zombies
>BIGOT
>everyone claps

This show isn't good
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>>85062029
I am not crazy about the character and children are always shit actors... That said- this series is garbage now- maybe they can redeem it this ssn.
>MFW I almost believe it
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I'm so glad I got my daily dose of empowerment watching Game Of Thronesâ„¢, best show on television where silly men don't tell us girls what to do! Knitting lol!
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>mideival society
>feminism
retarded

>BUT THERE'S DRAGONS AND STUFF YOU SHOULDN'T CAAAARE
oh so you admit feminism is fantasy?
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>When Jon asks for help she listens to the advice from both her Maestor and her advisor before speaking

>REEE LOLI BEAR SHOULDNT ACT LIKE THE HARDENED LITTLE SHIT THAT SHE IS, ITS NOT LIKE THE MORMONTS ARE A STERN BUNCH OF HARD MOTHERFUCKERS WHO SEND BOTH MEN AND WOMEN TO BATTLE REEEE
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>>85082917
Who are some of these women that believe shit like that? The only one i can think of is fucking Lena Dunham who A) was probably joking and B) everyone who isn't retarded thinks is retarded

You've let the strawmanning invade your mind. Get off 4chan for a bit
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>>85080944

I would love to hear that.
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>be from the women fuck bears and eat men isle of hard people where women and men both are regarded for being hard asses
>raised as a successor despite gender
>young
If you dont think a privileged childing little mouthy cunt wouldnt be waiting for a chance to shoot her mouth off and assert her voice in the room youre the fucking moron

Why the fuck is everyone getting so triggered over this?
>young girl raised with honor as central value
>put into situation with adults who have been made less honorable by their experience in the world
>shames them because they are not honorable
>talks about simple values with the wholesome adherence of a child
She's not some super badass, she's a kid in power who was raised well, who adheres to the values she was raised on, like LITERALLY ANY CHILD. and even better, now that the battle has been won, that value is now showed to have been worthwhile. She might as well be saying "na na na na boo boo" to the others.
The reason she comes across as badass is because she's surrounded by bitch baby oath breakers.
She's like a cute little reminder of how far off track everyone else got from the central values their civilization is based on.
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>>85080989

>say that to my face, you cunt.
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>Sandor Clegane digs graves
>GRAVE DIGGER CONFIRMED
>CLEGANEBOWL CONFIRMED GET HYPE
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>forgetting that Maege Mormont fought and died in Rob Stark's war


/tv/ has no fucking memory at all
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>There is a warrior woman tradition on Bear Island, because with all of the husbands and fathers away for long periods of time on fishing boats or working in the fields, the local women of the island had to be prepared to defend their homes and children from raids at a moment's notice (raids from both the Ironborn further south, and from wildlings who avoided the Wall entirely by using boats to cross the bay from the Frozen Shore on the other side).
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Don't care if it makes sense. She's funny.
Don't take this show too serious.
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>>85065711

It actually goes steadily downhill from there
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>>85070481
She's not even hot. People think she's hot because that's been the narrative for years. My girlfriend is genuinely more attractive than her but she vehemently denies it when I tell her. Like most casual viewers they think Emilia Clark is some beautiful goddess (and the same goes for Cara Delevigne). It's laughable.
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>>85062029
They went full Shill for Hill last year, now they're stuck with a bunch of shit
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See I don't really care that she's a girl, having a 10 years old boy doing this would be equally as retarted.
All the other kids we've seen ruling on the show are puppetheads, and there are court intrigues to seize the power bexause that's what happens everywhere in history when the ruler is a kid.

Oh but except here, not only there's no scheming and everybody likes the kid inside its own lordship, but grown men gets told by the child genius that knows better. Epic!

Fuck off with that shit
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>>85085945
Shit works differently on Bear island Pleb
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>>85081762

Pretty arya's boy version.
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>>85062029

She is a genius kid with 180+ IQ. Whom you know they exist in our world, they graduate from college when they are 11 or some shit.

Now get over it faggot.
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>>85085980
No, it shouldn't.
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>>85062029
I like her. I can't explain why but she's literally the best "strong female character" on the show.
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>>85086038
I liked her at first, ordering her own people around I can forgive since she is a Lord. Even then she should have some faults. Now she's ordering around the Night's Watch and other lords
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>>85081727
Yeah but out of all of the houses, this is the only one like that. All the rest are run but old guys. I thought they had explained why she rules the house.

In any case, it really does not bother me too much. In the end, men still rule the north anyway. Guess it is better than some black guy from out of nowhere.
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>>85086005

you have to go back
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>>85086073
Who did she order around in this episode? Make sure to be specific, she only had a few lines.
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>>85086073
She's not even really ordering them around though. She's just backing up Jons order as KANG OY DA NURTH
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>>85062489
Which one were you talking about? Joffrey, a teenager who everyone hated? Or Robin, who nobody took seriously?
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>>85086031
But it does dumb ass, whether or not you think it shouldn't is invalid
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>>85080036
>Pretending we're going to breed humans like livestock
>Pretending no women will birth twins or die in childbirth or be murdered because they weren't taught self defence
>Tribe
>Pretending there's a "safe place" to evacuate women and children to in ice zombie apocalypse
>Pretending any breeding will happen if all the men die
>Pretending other armies wouldn't just rape your defenceless women
>Pretending women wouldn't make better recon
>Pretending you can't specialise your soldiers based on their capabilities. E.g small, innocent looking female assassins, female archers etc etc

Any society that bans women from fighting are soft. If you've lived a hard life like the wildlings or the swedes a long time ago, you don't give two shits about anything but survival.
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>>85086645
It's not invalid to judge a writing decision on whether or not something is belivable in a world that pride itself on its supposed realism in a fantasy setting, "dumb ass"
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>>85084577
HBO

Stannis burns noone in the books in the North
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>>85063787
>better writing
>got
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>>85083052
do you think the thread consists of only your posts?
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>>85086976

>Hard life like the swedes

Oh boy.
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>>85068820
>a literary technique that is used to separate paragraphs is now defined as reddit spacing
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>>85089043

Dont you know? 4chan is a secret club for people who dont have education, love anime, possess zero spelling skills and cannot cope with social norms
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>>85063810
He's not a black eunuch. He's Arabic. Also isn't a sexless non white man the best thing for /pol/
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>>85086976
You're a fag. Also women suck at archery, especially medieval bows w/ their ridiculous draw weights. English long bowmen actually had deformed skeletons from the stress of the longbow and drilled every week from childhood to get the strength. The archer girl trope needs to be retired.
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>>85077212
SLAYYYYY
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>>85078133
kek, accurate
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>>85062946
You mean like how pc morons used to scream about everything until people shut them up? And now, after all their crying, they shake everybody for their opinions?

Why were you idiots taken seriously in the first place if you never believed in your snowflake bullshit in the first place?
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>>85062029
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>>85086976
>female archers
t. never fired a real bow in his life
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>>85063467
She's not hot like Natalie Portman was or cute like Chloe Grace Morwetz was. She's an ugly British oug. She isn't a loli stop trying to blend in.
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Her scenes are worse than any cringy The Office scene.

I skip them
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>>85064010
except these are northen lords who have some respect for honour and since glover was still a bitch for not fighting in battle of the bastards she can talk to him like that.
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>>85084679
agreed
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The classic autist progression. Westeros is changing and autists hate change. Makes sense you'd bitch about it.
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>>85064010
>its very unrealistic

Get it through your head autismos. The show does not care about realism anymore.
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>>85066286
But he's right

>buttblasted
Hi r*ddit!
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>Showrunners cant even remember their own show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ5oRxgphRc
>Season 3
Fuck off stop calling me kingslayer, i killed the mad king because he was going to burn kings landing alive in wildfie
>Season 7
Cersei: Are you mad at me for the wildfire thing
Jaime: Nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uo7dwbteFE
>Season 5
-Yes your grace dragonglass works on them i killed one
Stannis: I have a whole island of obsidian/dragonglass lying around that needs to be mined to be used against the others
>Season 7
Sam: WHAT DRAGONSTONE HAS DRAGONGLASS??? I thought Stannis was lying??
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>>85063380
Fkn reddit. Either you are a mangina or an actual cunt. In either case you will have to go back to plebit
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>>85090258
>what about those other people over there? They're just as faggoty as me! HA! I win XD
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This might just be autism but was anyone bothered by all the written text in the last episode?

I don't really recall any episodes where they show off actual written language. For example when Sam enters the citadel the maester is reading from a book or log with symbols I don't recognize which remind me of something like Ogham runes.

But through out this episode we get text that's written in modern english alphabet. It's very grating and kept ruining the immersion of a medieval fantasy series.
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>>85091759
>Dabid, the CGI wolves they're eating up profits! They's gonna be mad at us
>Don't worry Dan, we show Nymeria in a dark forest with Arya, and Nymeria is just too far gone wild and leaves quick fast
>Dabid, that's brilliants! But the dragons too! What about them? They eating the profits too!
>Dan, we're just going to have to kill them or get rid of them somehow, time to have another 5 day meth binge so we can cook up some ideas!
>>85092223
The one with catspaw was just basically what Sam summarized, the Targ's didn't know what the first men used dragon glass for and just adorned their weapons with it.
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>>85092318
It's still very grating that the alphabet and typography is very modern English. It's a small detail but it was annoying as fuck this episode with Cersei's Westeros labeled map and Sam's books.
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>>85092318
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>>85062029

i was wondering the same thing, she looks like mark facebookzerberg, cringy and ugly
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>>85092570
that's so fucking gay
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>>85092983
nah this one is worse
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>>85092570
>>85093040
this lazy fanfiction tier bullshit better be a hoax
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>>85093169
you decide
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>>85062029
They do. Because they're taught to be that way. The Queen talked proper and "adult like" when she was a child as it's how royalty was taught. Same here. She's been taught to speak this way, just a little more aggressive as the Morments are more aggressive.
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>dany
captcha stop avenue kek
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>Train children to fight
>They're incapable of killing anything
>When they die they get added to the undead army

Training women and children to fight in the GOT universe is literally a net negative. Not only do they add nothing of value to the living army but they add to the undead.
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Hawt
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>>85093040
D&D are going to continue taking a dump on this series. Dragon woman pulling down stannis' banner after walking through an abandoned castle was proof
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>>85093939
>tfw no intense battle in the ice strategic tactics and trojan horse storyline
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>>85093483
Wawt?
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>>85062029
>let's make the women fight
>not let's keep the women and children safe so the surviving men after the war can repopulate, such as has been done for millennia by all societies
>nah let's waste materials giving them weapons they can't even lift and using them as cannon fodder
>don't forget, any losses we suffer get turned into zombies and used against us
>SO LET'S THROW MORE BODIES AT THEM
yay gurrl power
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YASSS QWEEEEN OF THE NORTH
#SLAY THOSE DRAGONS
#FIERCE
#FEMALE EXCELLENCE
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>>85093384
>>85094546

>implying that kid in the nightswatch didnt save jons life
>implying the kid didnt kill jon
>implying arya hasnt murdered nearly 100+ people
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>>85094546
>Let's assume we beat an undead when almost all of the good fighting forces in the kingdom are spent.

Great idea retard.
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>>85094546
it's more about forced drama than girl power
fart crushing moments of husbands having to fight their zombie wives and mothers having to kill their zombie children
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>>85094646
only 4 more years and she's old enough to become Jon's wife. Make it happen.
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Where are the doges
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>>85095474
How many, or whose are still alive?
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>>85095691
2 and they get barely any screentime this season
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>>85068451
>so qquiet and bitchy
You mean cute and sexy.
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>>85068451
>choosing magic broom over magic wand
Doesn't it occur to them that you can use the magic wand to enchant a broom? ...they really are children
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If anyone can point me to one time in history when a child has had something worthwhile to say that isn't a repeat of what someone else told them please let me know. Also I think experience is necessary for any leader, this kids been on an island her whole life and now is talking like she knows how shit works. Even the best of histories prodigies wouldn't be able to act the same way.

If it was some battle scarred older woman who's seen some shit and done some shit then even pol wouldn't care that much. No one likes a holier than thou kid, it's just annoying and will always seem fake.

Also before anyone says the "it's a fantasy" meme, the characters I'm got are suppose to be characterized by being realistic.
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>>85096403
>had something worthwhile to say that isn't a repeat of what someone else told them
That's also exceptionally rare for adults.
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