Hey guys, art historian here. Were there any good movies made

Potempkin

>>85037644
>not real communism

>>85037663
that movie was very critical of communist regime though. i'm talking about pro communism movies not movies made in the communist era (there were tons of great movies made under communist regime)

>>85037708
Can you name ANY good propaganda movie though?

>>85037753
are you implying that all pro communism films are propaganda?

>>85037644

Stalker.
Battleship Potemkin.
The Cranes are Flying.
Solaris.
Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears.

>>85037708

No, it wasn't. The film was ordered, reviewed, and approved by Lenin himself.

>>85037779
yes
by definition

>>85037644
Come and See.

>>85037672
It has it's called Stalinism the Five year plan was a total smash hit.

>>85037801
>Stalker.
not pro communist
>No, it wasn't. The film was ordered, reviewed, and approved by Lenin himself.
doesnt mean it was pro communism
>solaris
lol gtfo retard you are an idiot
>>85037828
anti war =/= pro communism

>>85037644
>art historian
>doesn't know about soviet cinema
Not a very good one are you

>>85037644
>Hey guys, art historian here.
Fuck off, reddit

>>85037867
i said GOOD movies
>>85037891
gottem

>>85037801
>No, it wasn't. The film was ordered, reviewed, and approved by Lenin himself.
Are you sure? I think the movie was released in mid 20s, by that time Lenin was either dead or demented

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They forced me to watch this at school when I was little. Don't remember if good of bad. just a lot of shooting

>>85037644
Fall of Berlin dankest movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgzrI1okwrQ

>>85037672
Real communism is impossible by nature.

>>85037917
Battleship Potemkin.isn't a good film?

All of Kubricks films

>>85037644
Chaplin's films were pretty good

Communism is for teenagers who've never actually had to work on a factory floor for shit wages.

>>85037969
Actually its inevitable by nature. Start with Hegel and then Marxism will make more sense.

>>85037801
Tarkovsky wasn't a gommunist

Shortbus

>>85038042
ad hominem

>>85037708
>very critical of communist regime
Are you literally retarded? The regime they defeat isn't the communist regime, it's the Imperial regime. The good guys are the communists.

communism is for people that hate themselves so much for being losers that they cant stand the sight of other people making something of themselves because it makes them feel even worse

every commie i know is a horrible dark self obsessed piece of shit.

>DUDE lets all do nothing all day and get the same ration of food and shelter xD

>dude literallye veryone is equal i mean u can choose to spend your time the way you want to but you will never have more than what everyone else does LMAO

>>85038127
Communism is rational though. How would you organize a society of machines? Would you really use capitalism? Come on son. Your machines would be in a communist regime.

>>85038127
Except in Communist regimes you either go to work or get slapped on with a social parasite tax and then get randomly bullied by the militsiya

>>85038116
>The good guys are the communists.
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahah

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>>85037644
The truest kino can only be made free from the confines of the profit-oriented mindset.
>>85037969
it's the logical final stage of economic evolution

>>85038048
What happens when a psychopath decides to manipulate a bunch of followers and take over?

Fascism is kino, senpai. It's also inevitable.

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>>85038233
They literally are. Was this not subtle enough for you?

>>85037753
Triumph of the Will

>>85038216
Capitalism and communism are way too similar for my liking. Close the borders and create a socialist state and we'll be good. Avoid invading others and let them see National Socialism is the best way on its own. Don't fall for Jewish lies, folks. They are the invisible dictator for now under your precious ideologies.

>>85038246
That isn't an argument against Marxism itself. It could happen under fascism just the same.

>>85038380

I guess Juche is the answer.

>>85038385
Marxism is a joke for kids who are too privileged to know reality. Go to .gif and watch some gore webms if you're too far away to experience itself. What's "Natural" is survival of the fittest, my boy

The point of fascism is that it's built for reality, and doesn't hide from it like idealist children.

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>>85038380
>Capitalism and communism are way too similar

>>85038432
Under National Socialism workers are paid a living wage, though. We don't trat our people like animals. A strong bond and brotherhood, strong families, etc. is essential to a strong state.

Soy Cuba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFXv6bDIY8

>>85037801
>Stalker.
>Solaris

Highly doubt someone as deeply Christian as Tarkovsky was a Communist.

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>>85038432
Nazbol is the future

>>85038521
The current leader of the Russian Communist Party is Christian LMAO

>>85038492
They are. Both result in a wealthy powerful 1 percent and slave labourers. Capitalism at least gives people the illusion of luxury but most systems form the exact same way. As I already mentioned, fascism does not shy away from this fact.

>>85038510
this desu

>>85038454
Fascism blames imaginary things as problems for why they don't succeed. Pretty sure you are trolling though.

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>>85038537
literally did nothing wrong

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>>85038236
>that pic
Communist is the kino of social political models, and the way to a parnasian society regarding art as the most important activity for man.

>>85038617
Very ironic for a communist to say this. Open your goddamn eyes.

>>85038541
no one cares tarkovsky wasnt a commie you fucking retard

>>85038659
materialism is imaginary?

>>85038541
Russian communist party is currently more economical right than something called Liberal-Democratic party
Russian politics are fucking joke right now

>no Chinese propaganda posted
Surely they've made some

>>85038454
What would you say about libertarianism, I wonder?

>>85038691
>implying fascism isn't anti-capitalist
>implying Jews don't run Hollywood, the news media, and the educational systems
>implying Jews don't encourage destructive Marxist beliefs in the West while running a fascist dictatorship in their own homes.

Fucking sheep.

>>85038764
>Marxist Beliefs

It's called cosmopolitanism retard.

>>85038692
How is it more "economical right"? Please elaborate.

>ITT: people arguing about whether it works or not
The dude just wanted to see if good pro-commie movies exist, why is everyone so damn triggered

>>85038830
I love this shitposting

>>85038762
Libertarianism is okay, but people don't really know what they want and quickly become bored and disorganized. Total freedom is overwhelming and most people don't know what to do with it while also craving some sort of cause to dedicate themselves to. It can be personal, of course, but I can't see a libertarian society maintaining itself well on the global stage. If you become weak, you lose. It's that simple.

>>85038811
Call it whatever you want you bourgeois faggot.

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>>85038830
This thread has been seized by Nazbol Gang

>>85038892
You are giving false labels you fucking cretin what you call Marxism is Cosmopolitanism.

>>85038830
op here, this thread is going exactly how i intended it to

>>85038989
Ask BLM what they think about cosmopolitanism is you privileged little ass.

>>85038989
Same as globalism, then. Fucking sheep.

>>85039025
Why would why I care what some damn monkeys in some anarchist group thinks?
You can call a triangle a square but that doesn't make the triangle a fucking square.

Waterloo was filmed with something like 10k Red Army soldiers playing the English and French.

>>85039100
>Socialism in Country
>Globalism

Average yankee education.

>>85039104
So then what do you propose? A homogenized state? If so, you may be a fascist, after all.

>>85039160
>National Socialism
>Not socialism

I'm not American, fag.

>>85039165
They should stay in their own countries and find their own path for success the end.

>>85037753
12 years a slave ((although i hate it))

>>85039240
Well that's exactly what I believe, friend.

>>85039228
I am talking about Stalinism though.

>>85039295
Isn't Stalinism just fascism but worse?

>>85037708
loach maybe? it's a free world hit me quiet hard. also sweet sixteen made me cry for communism all nite long

>>85037828
>2 hours of GEE BILL WAR IS HELL
>>>/r/film

>>85039367
Stalin did nothing wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootless_cosmopolitan

>>85039481
You'd prefer living in Stalin's Russia over 12 years in Nazi Germany (minus the war part because I personally think that was a retarded choice by an egomaniac.)

>>85037866
the question wasn't about the movie being pro-communism tho, it was if they were made by commies

>>85038691
I'm sure Stalin and his cronies really hated living in that palace while the rest of the commoners were happy scrounging for shit.

>>85039481
>>85039533
Had Hitler not been a retard and listened to Strasser he should have pursued an alliance with Stalin.
Instead he showed mercy to some Zionist Jew Anglos at Dunkirk what a tool

Come and See, although it's more anti-Nazi than anything. It was originally going to be called "kill Hitler"

>>85039685
Communism was too big a threat to be left alone. He should have initiated alliances with the West. The Communists were (kept) too stupid to properly understand what Hitler stood for.

>>85039685
Stalin and Hitler referred to each other as comrades in the international struggle against capitalism in their propaganda before the war. If it weren't for Hitler's retarded racial ideals an alliance would definetely have been possible.

>>85039746
>implying Stalin wasn't a shifty motherfucker

Would you really trust the guy? That said, though, it was retarded of him to try and take them on alone. I heard actually they were having a fine time with the invasion before they sent the SS who started killing everyone. The peasants were happy to be rid of Stalin before that happened.

>>85039804
>I heard actually they were having a fine time with the invasion before they sent the SS who started killing everyone. The peasants were happy to be rid of Stalin before that happened.
This is true. Ukrainians recieved the nazis as liberators...until they started getting killed for not being german.

>>85038811
>There is a tradition of cosmopolitanism, and if we had time we could study this tradition, which comes to us from, on the one hand, Greek thought with the Stoics, who have a concept of the 'citizen of the world'. You also have St. Paul in the Christian tradition, also a certain call for a citizen of the world as, precisely, a brother. St. Paul says that we are all brothers, that is sons of God, so we are not foreigners, we belong to the world as citizens of the world; and it is this tradition that we could follow up until Kant for instance, in whose concept of cosmopolitanism we find the conditions for hospitality. But in the concept of the cosmopolitical in Kant there are a number of conditions: first of all you should of course welcome the stranger, the foreigner, to the extent that he is a citizen of another country, that you grant him the right to visit and not to stay, and there are a number of other conditions that I can't summarise here quickly, but this concept of the cosmopolitical which is very novel, very worthy of respect (and I think cosmopolitanism is a very good thing), is a very limited concept.

> You also have St. Paul in the Christian tradition, also a certain call for a citizen of the world as, precisely, a brother. St. Paul says that we are all brothers, that is sons of God, so we are not foreigners, we belong to the world as citizens of the world

Lmao christ cucks

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Letter Never Sent

>>85040067
This would be nice if they didn't act like white men were the only ones responsible for upholding it.

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I thought it was a Joseph Stalin biopic instead it was just capefaggotry.
Fucking false marketing

Damn you guys are petty and rooted in the past. Communism and Fascism are two sides of the exact same coin, and they lead to the exact same place. The organization and centralization of power abetted by altruism is an unstoppable process that's going to rock our species to the core. Technology is going to give us the capacity to completely redefine what an individual is, and what place they might play in a society. Every biological principle you assume is going to be open to negotiation, and only a machine-like system operating on a total war mentality will be the last one standing when everything is said and done.

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>>85040662
relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flEDBnDW4Rg

>>85037644
Kin-dza-dza

>>85040862
How would that be sustainable? I don't see how the worker ants are supposed to become impenetrable cyborgs and still breed without us running out of resources, unless we don't need to eat, that is.

>>85041270
He really liked his parades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DXysv-jkiY

Earth (1930)
Arsenal
Soy Cuba
Strike
Battleship Potemkin

Oh and if you don't think Potemkin is pro communist your an idiot.