Is he right, /tv/?

How about "I'd bet on the guy who has lasers that shoot out of his hands and chest."

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>>85006664
How can I ever refute anything said by the BASED black science man?

>>85006732
I would bet on the guy that btfo Superman tbqh famuliar.

DC KEKS BTFO BY BASED BLACK SCIENCE MAN

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>>85006737

>>85006664
batman makes stuff too is just that as always paying more people to do it is more efficient

>>85006664
Isn't Batman a safer bet because he has more people working on shit? Where Stark is literally one guy muh cave muh box of scraps

>>85006664
That's not true though. Why the fuck would Batman pay someone to make his fucking Batsuit? What if someone that worked on it was kidnapped by the mob and they could ID Bruce Wayne as Batman? Not to mention that he'd definitely be able to do it himself. How is that even relevant at all anyways? Is a Navy SEAL going to lose a fight against a native tribesman because he didn't build all his equipment himself and the native tribesman did?

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>>85006951

>>85006908
>Is a Navy SEAL going to lose a fight against a native tribesman because he didn't build all his equipment himself and the native tribesman did?

Drop two men on an island with nothing, the tribesmen will win.

>>85007210
Probably, but what's your point?

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>Batman can defeat Superman and is known to have plans to take down his fellow Justice League members if they ever turn bad
>Ironman cant even beat two super soldiers pumped with hormones

>>85006664
Not a comic fag so not sure how accurate that statement is

That being said NdGT's quote is missing any sort of evidence or metrics to back up his claim, sounds like unfounded opinion

I guess technically he can't be wrong but he's certainly not right

>>85006872
>it's
>earths

Stark stays up late drinking and then wings it the next day, but Wayne spends weeks working his ass off and planning for every possible contingency. No fucking contest.

>>85007377
this, but superman aint hard for a billionaire to beat just buy some kryptonite

>>85007377

You know the only reason Batman manage to beat Superman in these machofights is because Superman has wants to shove his tongue deep inside Batman's mouth, right?

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>>85006664
Tony's completely reliant on his technology in a fight. Batman uses it more for the sake of expediency. All Bats has to do is set off some EMP burst and Tony is fucked. In hand-to-hand combat, it would be zero contest.

Winner: Batman.

>>85010537
Implying his suit won't double as a faraday cage as well.

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>>85010595
So what he's going to block all of batman's batphone signaling?

Goddammit I'm sick of Batman being put in any universe that isn't just batmans, no other fucking superheroes. It ruins the whole damn point of the character and completely takes me out of the story. Not saying Batman is realistic but the character is supposed to be a regular extremely smart man solving crimes and attempting to clean the streets of his crazy harsh city. Once you have a superman or some guy in a flying metal suit with lazers batman just looks silly, his authenticity relies on his own isolated universe. I HATE EXTENDED UNIVERSES

>>85007377
>Comparing comic Batman with movie Iron Man

>>85010886
His important critical systems would be protected while the ones that aren't like communication would be exposed.

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>>85010537
.

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I'm sorry but does Iron Man have this guy at his disposal? I don't think so.

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>>85010929

Extended universe started in the comics decades ago though. It's just a fact of life at this point for anyone under 40 or so years old.

>>85006664

Based off pure armaments alone Iron Man would win. He has a shitload of protection, rockets, sensors, etc.

With virtually any amount of planning Batman would win though.

That's just comic book rules.

>>85006664

I honestly hate the idea of a superhero universe. Superheros should each have their own individual realities, it's shit when they get all mashed together.

>>85010537
this
batman is a fucking savage, iron man wouldn't have the will to win

>>85006808
I feel like Iron Man in that situation would have just made kryptonite bullets instead of beating him with a toilet seat or whatever

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>>85006732
i would bet on the one that was literally god

He really needs to cool his autism. I lost faith in him after he lost his shit on Gravity and him randomly showing up in TBBT

>>85010537
>those nails

wtf

>>85006664

That's not a fact, that's a statement.

Go fuck yourself.

>>85006664
Batman qas trained by several of the greatest martial artist and assasins including ras al ghul the demon himself an unrestrained batman who isn't holding anything back would annihilate iron man

>>85006664
See, I'd vote on Batman for the exact same reason.
Because there are only so many hours in the day. And when something breaks, Iron Man has to fix it. But when Something breaks for Batman, he is still in the dojo honing is fighting skills to the highest levels while Wayne Tech engineers are fixing things.
The most important part of any leadership role is knowing how to properly delegate work to skilled individuals. And Tony doesn't delegate shit.

>>85006664
Yes.

Batman is a detective. He solves crimes.

Tony built his suit in a cave. From a bunch of scraps.

>>85011887
He couldn't handle it right, if he could Manhattan would've destroyed him. While he viewed himself as a god he concerned himself with pathetic answers.

>>85013530
there's no way tony DOESN'T delegate, you think he built that whole contraption that takes his suit off him when he flies back to the office?

He has 50 suits that fly and tight independently of each other, he's not going to lose to Shark Repellent.

>>85011060
>iron man starting a sentence with "like"
what the fuck?

>>85013645

Modern Marvel, man.

>>85012528
>Batman qas trained by several of the greatest martial artist and assasins

WTF are you talking about.
Iron man doesn't lose because Bruce knows how to Karate chop better.
This is a fight between two billionaire engineers who like to fight crime with gadgets. This comes down to who can build the better weapon against his opponent

>>85010537
>>85011060
That's not how EMPs work REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>85011887
You would lose

>>85007377
Iron Man is still his superior

>>85010537
anti emp tech is old as the 90s you senile fuck

>>85006664
Le BASED Black Man is a cuck, and he's wrong on so many levels, BUT! Every self respecting comic fan knows that Tony can fuck up Bruce. Tony has created Dyson Spheres and taken out entire intergallactic empires with it just being 2% charged. He's created clean nukes and a neutron star powered arc reactor. He's created a suit that is the perfect blend of a symbiote and a machine. He's created a "human shield". Tony's feats far outweigh Bruce's. Sure, Wayne could beat him up. But Tony's tech is light years ahead of Batman's, so it's not really a competition.

>>85013828
Bruce cracked his encryption and seized control of the armor remotely 15 minutrs before the fight even started.

>Batman has engineers

Once again, faulty logic man is getting hung up on splitting hairs. The problem with comics is that they are inconsistent, and not really good for arguing anything since in one version of the comics, Lucius makes all of Batman's gear and in another, Bruce makes his own shit.

>>85014016
t.Moviefag

I get that /tv/ prides itself on not reading capeshit, but at least don't get into conversations about them. Your ignorance of the source material is showing.

>>85014393
Like hell. He even pulled that yrick on Cyborg already.

>>85006664
but Batman builds power armors too
basically everyone on the Justice League except Hal Jordan and Wonder Woman is a genius too

batman beat superman. tyson doesnt have a fkn clue what hes mouth hole is shitting about. stark is the guy batman pretends to be. a vapid egoist. batman is an ideal. i know who i'd rather have watching my back

>>85006664
iron man is a mary sue
>dude le sexy succesful billionaire philantropist playboy who is also an expert in robotics, engineering, physics, rocketry, biomechanics and computer programming

Batman is at least more believable since he relies on the expertise of many various groups of peoples to complement his own strengths and minimize his weakness. Iron Man just poofs an indestructible Vibranium suit out of his ass.

>>85016540
Batman evaded Omega Beams, he's literally mary sue.

>>85011679
>Kryptonite Bullets
And Superman could just dodge them.
Take away the suit and lifts and Tony is nothing.

>>85016331
>Cyborg
>on the same level as Tony

Post-Flashpoint Cyborg's feats are nothing more than off-panel wanking. "I'm da internet". "I'm InSiDE". He's a hacker from the 90s cliche. His best feats were done by Grid.

Meanwhile Tony has legitimate feats. His most recent suits are not simply metal and an OS. They're bonded to his body and act like liquid metal. The same tech is still used in Kang's time. He has nanomachines inside his bones that change shape, size and cover him from head to toe. His most recent armor has the abillities of all of his previous ones, and is able to change from the Secretary Armor, to Extremis, and then to Hulkbuster, before reverting back to Believe.

His "armor" is not armor in the classical sense, and thus cannot be "hacked". And before you say anything, Ghost, a being who's is everything Cyborg wishes he was, tried to hack him, back in the Bleeding Edge model... Nothing happened. (see Thunderbolts 150). Not even the High Evolutionary, who was on Galactus' level could hack him (see Iron Man/Thor #2).

Batman is outmatched, and outclassed. Now, get your moviefag ass and get outta here.

>>85006951
This one is actually something he really said.

>>85007377
You know perfectly well that Bats beats Supes only because Supes goes easy on him and gives him every opportunity to win. If Supes went all out it'd be over in three seconds.

>>85016798
And Iron Man would annileate Superman ergo: Iron Man > Superman > Batman

>>85016693
Not him but adding to this:

Tony Stark in 616 is the Engineer Supreme (like how Dr. Strange is the Sorcerer Supreme) which means he is the best engineer in the universe

>>85017422
what the shit?

>>85017462
I think Mr. Fantastic was the Scientists Supreme and Hank Pym was something Supreme I can't remember.

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>>85017491

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>>85017491
>>85017544

>>85011679
>kryptonite bullets

stop pls...

>>85017674
>>85016673
>superman didn't dodge that kryptonite cloud
>didn't even bother to hold his breath because he thinks he's invincible

>implying that he would bother do dodge a mere dumb bullet he didn't know would kill him

>>85011095
batman doesn't have him too, he's dead remember?

>>85016798
>Supes goes easy on him
that's why batman also went easy on him

>>85007210
Tribesmen work with others. Hence tribes.

>>85017841
Batman admits in the comics that if Superman actually got mad and wanted to kill him he'd be dead in 2 seconds

>>85006664
>ctrl+f
>no prep time

Everyone knows the result of any batman battle depends on prep time

I know you fags don't read comics but at least read a fucking wiki page or something.


Batman wins, everytime.

>>85006664

Batman has pre-game and will always win.

Fuck off science negro

>>85017959
Iron Man has prep time too

Extremis.

/thread

>>85017959
>>85018060
Iron Man preps Penny's bulls while Batman prepares for the fight.

>>85018224
>immediately think about cucking

you're american, yes?

>>85006664
>>85006664
What a retarded thing to say. Does he also think the people that make tanks would be better at fighting a war than the generals who command them?

>>85018248
Fuck no I'm Canadian.

Batman loses the first time then he wins the rematch

>>85018275
so, chinese-american then?

>>85018302
Yes, I see you are from reddit yourself.

>opinion on anything but science from black science guy

Bats would just hit Stark with Iron Man repellent. These discussions are dumb because every comic book character can either kill a god or was a god at some point.

>>85018320
can you even pronounce reddit correctly, chan?

btw, it's not leddit

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>>85018607
t. brainlet cuck

They're fictional characters you fucking virgins. I can make Don Rickles beat them both if I ever wrote any of that shit.

>>85017577
>>85017544
This was Loki in disguise, because Hank Pym can't have nice things>>85017491
>>85017462

>>85006664
>I think this character will win because he's more of a Mary Sue
Sound reasoning.

>>85016798
Supes was mindbroken by Ivy In DKR.

>>85006664
>inventor is always better than the user
Loving this meme.

>>85006664
Batman IS an engineer though

>>85007018
it just doesn't work unless it's Keanu

>>85010929
true to a point, but after cleaning up all the regular gangsters you start having super powered villains which pose a more interesting match to batman

both can be explored, it's just that zany colorful superpowered villains won over regular crime drama in sales, so we get that batman

>>85006732
Batman has defeated interdimensional god-beings by firing bullets backwards through time

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>>85006664
What a dumbass. Batman's superpower is that he's the world's greatest detective. He's capable of putting in place so many contingencies that it's assured he'll win. Tony is an amazing engineer but he's impulsive while Batman is absolutely the opposite.

e.x. In the films Batman put in place a sonar location botnet using cell phone signals from the carrier and manufacturer Wayne Enterprises owns. He did this without even Fox knowing about it. It was just one of an unknown countless number of angles he is working at any given time. He just identified it as being useful in capturing Joker.

>>85006664

if black science man is going by the movies, then this is the least retarded thing he has said.

>>85006664
Neil's forgetting that Batman isn't just a suit, he also a trained fighter with above average fitness. Tony Stark is a middle-aged substance abuser who was in bad shape even before the shrapnel in his heart. You pit a base Stark versus a base Wayne, it's over for the engineer.

>>85026389
What is fucking wrong with all these casuals. Batman is a superhero and his super power isn't that he knows kung fu. He's the WORLDS greatest detective. That's what sets him apart you dumbass. He's able to think strategically and gain insight then prediction of the nature of his enemies that no one else can.

Jesus tapdancing Christ. His first appearance was in Detective Comics not Kung Fu Comics. I'm not arguing semantics here. It's insulting to to the character that you think he's just another rockem sockem fighter of which there are hundreds.

>>85006664
>black science man starts talking about films
https://youtu.be/krqFe5jNK3U?t=25s

everytime

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Neither can stand up to Hank Pymtron

He's literally the God of AI

>>85007210
Why? Seals go through survival training and unarmed combat training. The only reason some tribesman would win is if they drop them on his turf and he knows where everything is. Even then I would still bet on the seal.

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>>85011009

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Wow so this is what it looks like when house of mouse is triggered nice as much as I love iron man remember bats does everything in Lycra and his panties could tony do the same?

>>85026691
>world's greatest detective meme
The Question has and always will be superior

>>85006664
No, Batman would use his Bat- iron man repentant spray.

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>>85017774
get a load of this hothead

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>>85006897
the safe bet is that they become friends in the end because Status Quo is God
but yeah, le niggerman of science must always have a word about everything, isn't he

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>>85011009
>comic Batman
i thought animated movies counted

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lol fuck science coon

>>85013721
batman
tonys ego is his worst enemy

>>85025115
>Batman's superpower is that he's the world's greatest detective.
Nope. That's Tim Drake now.

>>85006664
Batman is a better fighter.

Doesn't matter how many gadgets either invented, you can't beat a man in hand-to-hand combat, you lose.

>>85011009
Christopher Nolan Batman could beat Movie Iron Man.

>>85031857
but that's the dumbest Batman
>not knowing that Miranda Tate is Talia Al Ghul

Seriously though, Batman is so fucking boring when it comes to powers/combat abilities. I know the whole point of the character is DUDE HE'S JUST A NORMAL GUY WHO'S REALLY SMART LMAO but there's honestly nothing fun or thrilling about a regular guy in a bat suit beating people up, he really underutilises all the technology and resources he has available.

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>>85006664

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>>85030370
>This is why you shoot a man before throwing him out of an airplane

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>>85031857
Nolans batman couldn't beat this fag never mind ironman

>>85006664
Yeah and Neil Degrasse Tyson would left, right, goodnight Brock Lesnar by the same rules?
Fuck this retard, he can't even hypothetical right

>>85028628
Is your period key broken?

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>>85026866
Finally, a Pym fan. Tony busts Bats, but if it were a fight between Hank and Bruce... Hank ULTRAMURDERSTOMPS him.

PymTron 4 Lyfe.

>>85013564
Is this Staneposting?

>>85026866
>>85035810
but in the MCU movies Hank Pym IS Batman... the old one from Batman of the Future
>actually having a secret identity (looking at you, Stark you attentionwhore)
>solve everything with well packed punches, even at his old age
>instead of a mad scientist he's a thinker action-spy
>disenfranchised from his own company
>try out some burglar kid in a series of gambits to see if he's fit to the task

>>85036324
>talking about MCU Pym
>when 616 Pym exists

Anon, you better change your course, or I'll direct you to r/eddit. The glory that is Pym cannot be handled by the MCU. Pym just... is.

>>85036741
but /co/, i'm just saying...

>>85036982
Eh, fair enough. But poor Hank barely gets any respect. He deserves some, the poor bastard...

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How did cap go from peak human to literally hold helicopters back with one hand he's like spiderman strength, maybe stronger?