Was he a hero or a villain?

Hero
He was trying to defend his people assuring a future for apes and app children

>>84986004
He's never actually done anything wrong, he just wants to secure the existence of the ape race and a future for ape children

>>84986048
Hitler said the same thing

>>84986004
yes

>>84986061
Your point?

>>84986048
>>84986031
And all he had to do was exterminate humanity to accomplish this

>>84986061
so he is the hero

>>84986077
>>84986110
the point is that he's the villain. He has no mercy whatsoever. All he wants is death and le masterrace or le masterspecies maymay

>>84986098
Humanity started it

>>84986061
And Hitler did nothing wrong

>>84986183
How?

>>84986098
He didn't make the disease that wiped out humanity, humans did.

Hero to apes, villain to humanity

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>>84986183
Literally this
Caesar did nothing wrong
But we all no Koba is the real hero

>>84986098
the whole point of the movies was to show that humanity killed itself. The apes had nothing to do with it.

>>84986222
And he unleashed it

>>84986179
The world has been so great and peaceful since he lost the war right?

None of this would've happened if James Franco had just let them axe Caesar

>>84986264
That fat Canadian from Stargate that worked in the lab unleashed it in the first movie

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>>84986031
>tfw this becomes a pol thread in the very first post again

>>84986031
>app children

>>84986098
Nope. This movie and the last one made it perfectly clear that he just wanted to build a home for his people and didn't want to interact with humans at all. The only apes that wanted to exterminate humans were Koba and his followers and Caesar's literally spent two years in between these movies trying to clean up the mess that koba started

>>84986382
YOU KNEW WHAT I FUCKING MEANT

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>>84986294
So what you're saying is that James Franco destroyed the world?

>>84986354
If you don't think this thread wasn't /pol/ bait, you're retarded

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was there a single thought going on in this spics brain?

>>84986655
yeah, they did a good job making it easy to hate that guy.

>>84987233

I honestly wasn't sure how the movie wanted me to feel about him. I think he was just a red herring.

>>84986004
Clearly a hero. He tries to save his race unlike the whites.

So far, Whites are just surrendering their women to nignogs. You should be ashamed of yourselves

>>84986098
Every single movie he has always wanted the forest, and only the forest. He even let the humans in to work on the power plant or whatever it was.

>>84986179
>He has no mercy
you didn't even fucking watch the latest movie.

>>84986255
Did anyone else notice that Caesar's left eye started to fog over at the end of the film?

anyone else get a 2001 vibe from the ending?

>>84986183
I'm a human, why would I ever want humanity to lose?
Fuck people who side with the apes.

>>84989327
Yeah, the lighting especially.