Doctor who general /who/

>>84952457
Then why is Tennant there?

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>>84952460
>using the wrong title format
>not including "edition" in the text

fuck yourself

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Chris/Kris GOLDEN AGE

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R.I.P.

>>84952460
I was very struck by when 12 was regurgitating previous regeneration lines, and the fact he did BOTH of Tennant's ("I don't want to go", "It's started, I'm regenerating") was really neat.

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>/who/ presents:
DOCTOR WHO: SHIT TRIPS Vol. 2
- The Anthology -

>Are you a true fan of Doctor Who?
>Have you ever written down a sequence of words?

If the answer is yes or no, then you are ready to contribute a literary masterpiece to the second /who/ collection of original Doctor Who-based short fiction.

/who/ did it once. Now, we're gonna do it again! Yet another entry in an age-old tradition of p̶a̶c̶k̶a̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶a̶n̶f̶i̶c̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶g̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶i̶r̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶l̶e̶g̶i̶t̶i̶m̶a̶c̶y̶ / celebrating the magic of Who and the talent of a community.

There are no limits (except the story must be at least 1 word long, and preferably not in excess of 10,000, it's short fiction you fuck).

>- Can involve any Doctor(s), companion(s), side characters, spinoff characters and beyond, as your heart desires
>- Can be in any style, whether it's "legitimate writing", "pisstake", or "shitpost".
>- Can be about absolutely anything
>- The main focus is on good fun in the vein of the wiki, although serious entries are allowed. (If you're going to write smut, maybe approach it with a degree of levity)

Stuck for ideas? Try starting with your favourite TARDIS team (or for timeliness, 12/Bill “I'm a lesbian” Potts) and one of these authentic titles:
http://www.saberpunk.net/DoctorWho/DoctorWhoSerialGenerator.php
https://glyphobet.net/drwho
And free scenario prompts:
http://games.usvsth3m.com/drwho/

We are going to be starting an index on the wiki for the collection. Anyone can contribute, no signups/pitches required. If you have ideas, feel free to broadcast them.
The rest is self-explanatory. Format for uploading your work is up to you, as long as it can be conveniently copied across (and ideally don't spam long texts in /who/ directly). (Pastebin works well.)

BONUS: Anyone who wants to do cover art or "illustrations" is encouraged.

Series 11 will be about Silurians and muh giant Dinosaurs.

>>84952514
>post ended on 14
Clearly a fact.

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>ywn hear it again "Don't forget to subscribe to the official Doctor Who YouTube channel."

>>84952526
He also said when the doctor was me

>>84952495
50th anniversary

>>84952551
I read it in his voice :)

Seems Douglas Mackinnon is going to carry on directing

https://twitter.com/drmuig/status/885928944612126720

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>>84952551
>yfw you realise the line was always "Don't forget to click below to subscribe to the official Doctor Who YouTube channel"

>>84952557
Yup, and the Sontaran line was 4 immediately post Pertwee regen, and (this one might be a bit of a stretch) the "No, no, no, no, no, no!" is also what 2 said when he regenerated at the end of the War Games

WHO?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13434305/
http://www.strawpoll.me/13434305/
http://www.strawpoll.me/13434305/

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>>84952546
Series 11 will be about Sontarans perverting the course of human history.

Matt Smith is trending on Twitter. Peter Capaldi isn't. Capaldi suicide when?

>>84952572
Solid if unremarkable director.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/885907569696440320

13th Doctor being announced Sunday.

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WE

>>84952668
I will always remember when the Doctor was we

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>>84952649
ahaha well memed

>>84952668
WUZ

what are rumors for new doctor so i can be hype and disappointed its not michelle gomez

Girls, the Thirteenth Doctor is being announced on Sunday!

>>84952693
BIG FINISH N SHIT

>>84952606
kek

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>>84952728
keep going

Guys, Moffat's leaving after the Christmas special!

>>84952720
It's almost an absolute certainty that it'll be a woman.

Jodie Whittaker is the strongest female contender right now.

>>84952768
I will always remember when the showrunner was Moff

>tfw know who it is

won't spoil but it's not a female

>>84952800
good to know it isn't ya mum then

>>84952776

No it isn't. The 14th Doctor probably will be if 13 isn't though.

The Mirror are now reporting that 13 will be announced on September 4th. Get hype.

Jodie a cute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5LbkhheXvw

>>84952800
Just tell us. It's 2 days away.

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DOCTORS ARE NOT REQUIRED ON SUNDAY

>>84952776
Not it really isn't. Do you honestly believe the BBC are going to risk their already failing franchise by casting a woman? which would cause the biggest divide in the fandom in history, no they will not.

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>Only 1 more Capaldi ep left
Even though I've found the 12th Doctor to be kind of inconsistent character wise, I'm sad that he's going, he's a fucking great actor.


And nothing against the bloke but I really hope it isn't Kris Marshall.You either need a renowned actor who can fucking ace it (Eccleston, Capaldi) or a relatively unknown/non-household name actor who can totally inhabit the role (Tennant, Smith). Marshall is well known enough that he'd be distracting.

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>>84952800
nice prediction you have like an 88% chance of being right

>>84952841
tom rosenthal

>>84952800
>tfw actually know who it is

wont spoil but it's not a male

>>84952860
Is it future?
Or is it past?

So am I the only person here who loved Tennant and Capaldi equally? I think they are best Doctors at equal level.

>>84952572
ENOUGH. Mackinnon has literally never created visual kino in his life. The closest he ever came was Listen and that's because most of the script took place in dark rooms, and he still ruined it with his bastard neon lighting. Flatline only avoided looking like utter gash because most of it was done in post-processing.
I still remember the fucking multiple primary colour filters over the one corridor in Time Heist. Kill me.

>>84952860
>Inconsistent

That's called actual character development anon. Something 10 and 11 didn't have.

>>84952886
Tennant as 10 or Tennant as Meta-10?

>>84952886
i'll always love smith. eleventh hour is a fucking masterpiece, one of the reason why i fucking love moffat too

also i fucking love capaldi

>>84952918
It's not really development if he goes back and forth and eventually nowhere, it's just inconsistent

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>>84952908
Wow, I didn't know Steven Spielberg was on /who/!

>>84952776
>>84952821
Stop forcing this fucking meme

>>84952952
Back and forth?

S8 beginning - Am I a good man? Wrestling with who he is. Irritable, cranky, unsure of himself.
S8 ending - I am an idiot. Found his identity, more carefree, more compassionate.

S9 beginning - Again, I am an idiot. Guitar, playful antics, carefree. Clara acting the same way leads them to bounce off each other co-dependently and make each other more and more reckless, leading to...
S9 ending - realising he went too far, and dialling things back down. Less playful, more self-assured.

S10 beginning - Settled down, still wants to adventure but is being dutiful, guarding the Vault and whatnot.
S10 ending - After giving in and having some (fairly careful) adventures (again, building off the tempering his personality aspect the last 2 series did), his duty is paid off in Missy turning good - but he doesn't see it, and everything seems to go to shit for him again, and he starts to regenerate. He's angry at his life going down the same road so many times, so he tries to refuse to do so, leading to a christmas special where he presumably comes to terms with that, alongside 1 going through presumably a vaguely similar crisis.

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REVISITING THE OLD FAVOURITES

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>>84952668
>suporting cast members are black
>their aren't featured at the bottom of the side bar as usual

Great job Briggs, you fucking racist

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>>84952720
>and disappointed its not michelle gomez
Next best thing

>>84952952
Where did he go back to though? Grump 12 transformed into thrill seeker 12 in in series 9, thrill seeker 12 then matured into a solid version of series 8 and 9 Capaldi in series 10.People are not consistent in real life, so it's refreshing to see it here with 12.

>>84952468
>The THICC meme was fun, had a few good laughs with it
Yep, you're definitely the second worst trip

>>84952962
Spielberg can piss off too. The BFG was utterly inept filmmaking that somehow couldn't surpass the cheapo Cosgrove Hall animation from fucking 1989! (although the script was the biggest issue there)

>>84952992
rofl come back on sunday and tell me it's a meme anon

>>84952460
>canonically 10 only lived about 3 years and wasted a regeneration
What a tard.

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>>84953034
ok

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

ok you guys, serious question time:

who would actually drop the show if it was a female doctor?

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

>>84953082
nobody.

>>84953082
Depends on who is the female, how she acts and how it's written. However I think it's possible I do leave.

>>84953082
>>84953093
didn't ask me, did you, cunt?

>>84953082
i dropped the show a long time ago lol

Reminder that Eccleston has said that he would come back to Doctor Who if Joe Ahearne was directing again.

im going to watch if the new doctor is a a woman but I actually don't expect it to make a big difference to the show.

There might be few scenes where fem doc has to stand up a sexist strawman and all the kiddies can cheer on but DW has always had bits like that like. Pandering to kids, I hate kids, fuck their role-models.

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>>84952996
Good post

The new doctor is going to be a strong black female. Every episode will be about having tolerance for Muslims. The villain in each episode will be an evil white male who will be forced to check his privilege

BBC: Look, we know Wimbledon's shit, but please could you watch the Wimbledon final? Our ratings are down too, and we've decided to announce the new Doctor Who LIVE ON CENTRE COURT ON SUNDAY.

For more than 50 years the Doctor has represented an alternative, kinder, less destructive form of masculinity, and that's good. But it's still falling short of the final step towards a truly humanistic vision - the empathic suggestion that the outward body maketh not the personality. When the Doctor is demonstrated as able to maintain his essence regardless of gender, he will have reached the next stage in his evolution.

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>>84953139
what an original concept for a post

>>84953101
kek keep telling you that cunt

>>84952918
>Jodie Whittaker
yeah, ending the season one way and starting another way because Moffatt said 'we want the doctor to be lighter this series" is certainly planned character development

>>84953082
If it was, i'll probably watch the first episode out of curiosity and then drop it.

>>84953082
Depends who it is and how well they act.
If it's Sue Perkins I'll fucking drop it though.

>>84953082

I don't think many will, and people will still watch if it's Kris Marshall too. Doctor Who has got to be the show that hardcore fans say they're going to stop watching but hardly ever do

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Holy shit it might be real

>>84952996
There are so many Doctors and so few seasons for most Doctors that proper character development is pointless. I'd rather Capaldi had just been given a sarcastic outwardly-aloof Doctor with a heart of gold from day one.

>>84953082
I would desu

>>84953159
NO CUZ HE WON T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN HIS ESSENCE REGARDLESS OF HIS :
- RELIGION
- SEXUALITY
- SPECIES
- ALIVE OR DEAD
- ABLE / DISABLED
...

>>84953161
You're just looking for any excuse to post more and more distorted versions of that image, aren't you?

Anything have a download for Terrance Dicks Making of Doctor Who book?

>>84953082
Me, but would probably come back when 14 is announced.

>>84953082
I'd watch the first episode and go from there, but I'd probably drop it after that.

>>84953133
Thanks. It just all seems pretty clear to me that he goes through pretty cohesive character development
S8 - anguished, prickly, unsure
s9 - carefree, kind, arrogant
s10 - tempered, kind, careful
s10 finale - despairing, kind, suicidal

Angry to carefree to responsible to suicidal.

>>84953197
It's Doctor Who, showrunners should try new things, not just do the same old because fans think "it's pointless". You've already had plenty of static Doctors, don't begrudge that we got a dynamic one for once.

>>84953232
But 14th will be a woman.

And so on until we'll have had 13 Male Doctors and 13 female doctor

You sexist monster ! Check your privileges ! Check your oppression !

>>84953112
Source?

>>84952996
Yes, we can all fill the gaps in the character to make the personality changes make sense

>>84953082
Not many people honestly. Unless Moffatt was writing her

>>84953246
imagine sitting next to him and then looking to your left and realizing who it was

>>84953246
>tfw he's finished filming and after Comic Con and some promotion for Christmas later it will literally be ALL OVER FOREVER for him

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>>84953213
Indeed I am.

>>84953246

I met him in a pub in Glasgow before any of this Thick of It & Dr Who success

Nice guy.

>>84953232

I think there'll be two women in a row, IF the first is successful, people will complain if they have a woman then go straight back to a man.

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JUST

>>84953195
What might be real?

>>84953301
14 females in a row.

Equality is a thing. You monster. You misogynic awful man

>>84953271
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-08-24/doctor-who-at-50-the-ninth-doctor-speaks--a-message-from-christopher-eccleston

>Finally, in something of a coup for the BFI, Justin Johnson read out a special message from Christopher Eccleston: “I love the BFI. I love the Doctor and hope you enjoy this presentation. Joe Ahearne directed five of the 13 episodes of the first series. He understood the tone the show needed completely – strong, bold, pacy visuals coupled with wit, warmth and a twinkle in the performances, missus.

>“If Joe agrees to direct the 100th anniversary special, I will bring my sonic and a stair-lift and – providing the Daleks don’t bring theirs – I, the ninth Doctor, vow to save the universe and all you apes in it.”

>>84953273
>Yes, we can all fill the gaps in the character to make the personality changes make sense
Just because Moff doesn't constantly dump explicit expository dialogue banging viewers over the head with every slight change in a character anymore doesn't mean it isn't happening. Do people truly consider it a stretch that there's logic behind this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETHa0rukwy4

going to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPjJ_VAubRs

? For fuck's sake, there's even a set of flashbacks to help explain the character development.

https://www.oddschecker.com/tv/doctor-who/next-doctor

>>84953265
Then I come back when the 27th is announced!

>>84952996
I'd just like to say that while this is mostly true with some reachs, it didn't make the Capaldi era that more memorable and it surprisingly didn't make his character more interesting.

I guess it's because his development wasn't that well executed, while the beats are there they aren't really felt by audience. You can see that with how no one can really agree to how he developed/if he developed at all. This wasn't Breaking Bad where the character change is evident, and that's what it needed.
And even then, an era is defined by stories, and the Capaldi era had a lot of meh ones.

>>84953327

I hope we get to find out what his message was at the wrap party the other day

>>84953361
how the fuck do you read the odds? teach me kind anon

>>84953327
That's the 100th anniversary though, not series 11 you knob.

>>84953304
>You will never randomly encounter Capaldi on the subway and bro out with him over your shared love of Doctor Who

Why even go on living

>>84953361
>Kris Marshall on 4/6 odds
>you bet £6, you get £4 back

There's been a surge in bets then, as with Capaldi. Probably him.

>>84952572
So this means Series 11 filming is right around the corner right?

>>84953361
why has jodie whittaker climbed up from being virtually nobody to being third most likely in a matter of days??

>>84953381

Better like this !

Happy to have made someone aware of the terrible world we live in and need for equality today !

>>84953255
You have a point but that "dynamic" Doctor shouldn't have been Capaldi. We were due a more classic and mature Doctor after eight years of Tennant/Smith OTT zaniness.

Kris Marshall incoming.

>>84953416
It's because she's the 13th

>>84953416

she is 13. I have real info, trust me man. ;))

>>84953416
>>84953442
Stop forcing this fucking meme

>>84953395
Say the odds are 2/1, if you bet £1, you get £2 back.

The odds are 30/1, you bet £1, you get £30 back...etc.

>>84953416
It's a tactic the bookies use to get people to put money on people/for them to make more money.

>>84953385
>I'd just like to say that while this is mostly true
>it didn't make the Capaldi era that more memorable
>it surprisingly didn't make his character more interesting
>his development wasn't that well executed
>an era is defined by stories, and the Capaldi era had a lot of meh ones

You're reacting to a subjective analysis of fiction as if you've uncovered objective truths about it. You haven't. Because there aren't any. There are just opinions, and ours are as valid as each other's.

>>84953433
We weren't due anything, and we are never owed anything. The show will sometimes be to your taste, and sometimes it won't be. Just have to roll with it, it's the nature of the game.

>>84953473
so the smaller the better?

>>84953349
>Just because Moff doesn't constantly dump explicit expository dialogue banging viewers over the head with every slight change in a character anymore
but he does. overly expository speeches are pretty much capaldi's thing
>Bill, your mom just went viral

anyways, it's not a stretch that one could have that interpretation of his character, but seeing as Moffat is famous for thinking about moment to moment continuity over extended continuity, and because he seems to just say he wants to go in a different direction with Capaldi at the beginning of each season in a way that does not imply a progression, I'm going to say you are just inputting it to make it more consistent

>>84953492
The smaller the odds, the more likely it's right.

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>half of /who/ is saying 13 will be kris
>half of /who/ is saying 13 will be a woman
>tfw to intelligent and knowing that the golden age is 13 being played by ian levine

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>>84953255
I feel like where he is now is too broad for "suicidal." He's more satisfied with who he is and willing to die to keep it.

>>84953510
thank you kind anon

>>84952526
>>84952557
>>84952585
Do you not see that this sort of thing was the biggest problem with Capaldi's run? The shitty writers focused so much on making callbacks they forgot to actually give him any character of his own. Give me a 12-specific line, right now.

>>84953492
Pretty much, but its based on how many people bet on something. So if 1000 people suddenly bet on Kris Marshall, the odds would get smaller. But if 1000 people bet on Kris Marshall, it would suggest knowledge. So it correlates basically.

>>84953482
If Moffat and the BBC weren't willing to commit to a mature Doctor (Series 9 proved they weren't) then they shouldn't have bothered casting Capaldi in the first place.

>>84952819
The BBC have outright said they're revealing in 2 days, after the tennis finishes. Keep up.

>>84953349
People always complain about how S9 12 is a 'different character for no reason' because he's more passionate and fun-loving, and doesn't indulge in quite as much performative callousness. But I never really got that because his 'I am an idiot' revelation in DiH is there to be a turning point for his character, he quite literally relieves himself of what's been burdening him and realises he's supposed to be having fun.

>>84953545
>Shitty writers
Stop spamming this meme

>>84953234
I don't even understand that, I mean the Doctor's companions are mostly women. Only Missy was a women, but sure, "Is the future all girl?". Fuck off, Moffat. The Bill line about being into women of her age was enough.

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Why's everyone talking about Doctor Who and not about Doctor How?

>>84953545
Personally, I think that's a hell of a bird.

>>84953545
this, 12's run felt super derivative. Every episode felt like a rehash of an older one, from Into the Dalek being worse Dalek to Magician's Apprentice being worse Genesis of the Daleks to Death in Heaven being Army of Ghosts but with graves instead

Never understood the "I'm an idiot"-thing, come on, he's everything but dumb. Maybe a mad-genius type genius, but not an idiot. That's kid-shit.

>>84953482
>You're reacting to a subjective analysis of fiction as if you've uncovered objective truths about it. You haven't. Because there aren't any. There are just opinions, and ours are as valid as each other's.

And I think you're reading too much into it because I've never stated otherwise.
Discussion is about the clash of opinions and different perspectives on a subject. Nothing is progressing to an idea or resolution if you stop to point out that an opinion is an opinion.
You could keep the ball rolling and respond with your ideas on my ideas, but who cares, it's all valid, it's all opinions.

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>>84953361
Vicky McClure's jumped up again.

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>>84953545
>the entirety of the speech to the Masters in The Doctor Falls

>>84953545
>they forgot to actually give him any character of his own
There's literally a post in this thread explaining his character and you're still gonna go "h-he has no caharacter!!!"

>>84953611
It's not a meme, it's true

>>84953670
stop this fucking meme ty

>>84953637
>>84953670
>a thing he said literally one time
No

>>84953639
>>84953545
>>84953680
Stop samefagging

>>84953672
well if someone posts their opinion everyone's gotta listen right?

Maybe if you treated your opinions as less objective and acting baffled that people arent lining up to it then maybe things would go smoother for you

>>84953663
I'd actually love her

>>84953611
what? no the writers suck man.

>>84953525
That's a good take, "suicidal" is definitely a reductive term for it.

>>84953506
Of course we're both welcome to our own interpretations and I do honestly appreciate you aren't trying to invalidate mine so much as just disagree with it. I can actually have a conversation with you, whereas a post like >>84953385 is full of thought-terminating phrases presenting opinion as fact. I'm not sure if I'm coming across earnestly here, but I seriously am being honest in saying I really do appreciate you using language like "I'm going to say" and "interpretation of a character" instead of "you are wrong, my opinion is objectively right", etc. I disagree with what you're saying, like you disagree with me, but we're not being dicks to each other about it. That's how it should be, IMO.

>>84953607
Exactly, seems pretty clearly telegraphed to me, but to be fair there's a year's gap between s8 and s9 and "I am an idiot" comes late into the s8 finale, so I don't think the repercussions fully sank in for some people, so tank guitar fun Doctor may have seemed inconsistent in that sense for them. His era will play well in future years when people binge it all at once and can see it more cohesively, I think.

>>84953653
You could do what I do, and couch your opinions in phrasing that makes it clear they're just opinions and not an attempt to invalidate others. I have loads of interesting conversations here, and the more interesting ones are always when I make an effort to really try and engage with someone else and not invalidate them or talk over them or anything. Discussion may be a clash of opinions, but it doesn't have to be a clash of personalities, there's no need to make it argumentative IMO.

>>84953712
That's a 12-specific line dipshit
Stop moving the goalpost

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>>84953714
It isn't opinion anon. He has character, just because you don;t see it doesn't mean you get to state otherwise.

12 was the most complex and human-like Doctor we've ever had. Hopefully he can be topped.

alright bros, i stopped at time heist in s8, how much fun will it be to work through the rest of s8, 9, and 10 before the announcement(?) of the new doctor?
i heard there were some really great episodes in s9 or 10 is that true?

>august

LOL CHANTO BTFO

I told you guys it was this week.

>>84953712
Do you want him to have a catchphrase like "Allons-y" or "Bowties are cool"?

>>84953768
You know exactly what I meant you fucking faggot
>geronimo
>fantastic
>allons y

>>84953750
>>84953680
Dude just because nobodyr esponded to your shitty post doesn't mean you have to resort to samefagging

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>>84953700
i'm sorry i just want to feel like i'm important for once in my life

>>84953789
>"wey hey, motherfuckers!"

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>>84953818

>>84953814
>allons y
You never watched the show
10 rarely said that
The only reason people remember it is because of the merchandise

>>84953814
>shut up

>>84953818
i hope u die a painful death ty

>>84953814
you WANT the Doctor to be pandering to fangirls and kids? That's a new one. Usually I see people saying they don't want the Doctor to say that kind of stuff.

It's Kris Marshall. No doubts now. But why the fuck did they wait so long to announce? Literally nobody will be surprised.

>>84953814
You just made a fool of yourself. 12 not having an embarrassing catchphrase is one of the GOOD things about his character.

>>84953771
>Hopefully he can be topped
I really like this attitude, "Capaldi is great and hopefully one day there will be someone even better!" is a very Doctor forward-looking stance, instead of something like "Capaldi is great, the show shall never see his like again". Moff would like your phrasing of it IMO, he's very into that stance.

>>84953860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GMkWfpj4s

>people still dont understand capaldis development

Plebs.

>>84953771
you sound like the people who say the most recent pokemon game is always the best, and those guys are retards

>>84953774
Skip 9.

>>84953760
In the end, it really is all just opinions and pretending it's fact wont make the other person more convinced, just more defensive, so I see no point in it. Plus I cant say anything definitively when in the end, I really dont know and you could actually be correct in your analysis.

Kris Marshall is now everywhere with odds smaller or equal to 1, and other sites have suspended bettings.

Guess we have a winner guys !

I M SO DELIGHTED !ù!!!!!!!!!

KRIS KRIS KRIS KRIS KRIS KRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>84953960
>skip 9

u are retarded ty

>>84953960
9 is my doctor. How dare you ?

>>84952509
It's better than the /WHO/ one a couple of threads back at least.

>>84953082
there's absolutely no fucking chance that they possibly couldn't end up doing it in a deliberately gimmicky ham fisted way, even given that Moffat has left, so yes i would so drop it.

for a while and then i'd watch at least the first episode out of curosity...

Did anybody actually predict Capaldi before he was announced?

>>84953988
nah its not him, the BBC wouldn't go with such a safe choice

>>84953960
>I really dont know and you could actually be correct in your analysis

I don't even really see it as being correct or not IMO, I think "Capaldi has no character development and is haphazardly written" is as valid an opinion as mine, I don't think there's any inherently "right" opinion, but the fun of it is sharing ideas and "evidence" and talking about it and all that jazz. I think what I think, I share my ideas, other people think what they think, they share their ideas, that's fandom, it's a good thing.

I'm never trying to shut down conversation or invalidate other people, if I come across that way or do that, I really do apologise. Posting my take on Capaldi's character development is me sharing my ideas, not trying to "disprove" other people, and if it doesn't come across like that, I am sorry.

The reveal is *SUPPOSEDLY* similar to the Bill reveal, in which it shows an actual scene as 13 in costume - it's apparently Kris Marshall too

>marshall

What a boring safe choice. Hopefully he does a beard at least

>>84954030
he skyrocketted few days before the announcement on betting sites

>>84954015
Series 9

>>84953997
9 has like, one and a half good episodes

>>84953810
This freaked the shit out of me when I first saw it

>>84954030
Yes. There was a betting rush in the last days, and he was rumored.

But only days before the actual announcement

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>>84954061
Same. Sadly, I doubt it. A beard is the only thing that makes him look non-bland.

>>84953082
I've got a strong feeling that whatever the gender i'm going to want to drop it anyway. it will be a stunt casting, no doubt, and i've developed very strong "Capaldi is MY doctor and is the the Doctor done RIGHT for the first time in years and they're going to just go in a completely different direction with the new one and it just WON'T be the SAME" feelings (a lot like tennantfags I suppose.. oh the irony..), the transition is going to be very hard for me. i'll probably end up leaving the show for a bit.

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>>84953898
Thank you. If it helps, I'm also >>84953525
Been browsing these threads since the leak/who/ days. Glad to see people who understand where I'm coming from.

>>84953960
New pokemon games are fucking terrible m8, everyone sees that.

>>84954094
He'd been floated around as a Doctor Who for ages t b h, IIRC he was asked to audition for 8 but didn't want to for some reason (maybe cause it was co-American, or he was just busy, not sure).

Anyone else remember that Paterson Joseph nearly got 11? Pretty great actor, was in the S1 finale too.

>>84954125
I've probably told you this dozens of times then, but I really like your opinions and always appreciate your insights :)

>>84954040
He brought in 8-10m viewers for the BBC in Death in Paradise. Safe is good.

>>84954065
My balls, they itch.

>>84954049
I agree, conversations are all about discussions of different viewpoints. If one side doesnt want to discuss, there's no point.

>>84954125
okay then, at least we can agree on that. I think you may like Capaldi as an actor more than 12 as a doctor though, he elevates the role a million times by being so great

Anyways, I'm off now, ive been neglecting my wagecuck work for too long so later /who/

>>84954150
>He'd been floated around as a Doctor Who for ages t b h, IIRC he was asked to audition for 8 but didn't want to for some reason (maybe cause it was co-American, or he was just busy, not sure).
In an interview somewhere, he said he didn't feel it was the right time for him to go for the role, that he didn't feel like he'd done enough or got to the right age to do it.

The next doctor is probably going to be a nigger.

>>84954030
Not really, he kinda jumped to top of bookies favourites about a week before he was announced.

At the time he was playing the main villain in The Musketeers, and it was assumed he'd join the Veep cast, so he was overlooked cos we thought he'd be too busy.

Here's the Twelfth Doctor's "character development":

1. Moffat makes the Doctor too hostile and callous in series 8 (despite some Matt Smith-y dialogue).
2. After pressure from BBC higher-ups, Moffat massively overcompensates by turning the character into a gimmicky goofy clown in Series 9.
3. Moffat realises he has gone too far and somewhat moderates the character in Series 10; giving us, more or less, the Doctor Capaldi should have been given to play in the first place (minus the guitar, shades and hoodie).

>>84954204
My balls, they itch.

>>84953760
>You could do what I do, and couch your opinions in phrasing that makes it clear they're just opinions and not an attempt to invalidate others.
Look, I'm genuinely sorry if you feel that way, but there's no intent on my end to undermine or invalidate, that's just how I write. And I really don't think that policing myself to couch how I express is productive, because even if there isn't "In my opinion" before every opinion, you could still see it was all opinions. No argument should need a sentence to validate it as an opinion and not fact, common sense should have you already noticing that. Honestly this is kinda bizarre to me, I've never seen this before.
Bottom line: Don't take to it heart, man. As I said, I think you've read too much into it and in no way I wrote my opinion as fact. We're just faceless people talking on an anime board.

Announcement on Sunday but expect it to probably leak tomorrow

>>84954204
You do realise that the sunglasses and guitar were Capaldi's ideas, right? I feel like the hostility was a little forced in Series 8 and it didn't fit the kind of character Capaldi wanted to play.

>>84954317
>>84954278
Don't respond to the bait

>>84954317
I know that Capaldi suggested the guitar for a one-off jokey scene in the TARDIS. He never expected it to become a gimmick. And Moffat thought Capaldi looked good in sunglasses so he turned them into an in-universe gimmick too.

>>84954204
sounds about right. However, I feel like all these versions of Twelve were good in their own time. I'm actually really glad we got so much variety in his personality/behavior.

Anyways, the only real and important measurable development in Twelve is the length of his luscious hair

>>84952526
Moffat was always very desperate to insist the TSE regeneration counted.

>>84954204
this I actually agree with.

People actually dropped the show based on how Capaldi was in 8. I know at least two people who did this

>>84952551
>Tfw it was four years ago that Matt Smith would waggle his screwdriver at the post-clip links.

BBC finishes showing Wimbledon at 6:30pm BST Sunday. So is that what time we should be expecting the announcement?

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>>84954375
IIRC Capaldi got the hoodie in because Last Christmas was the Christmas special and the sets were winter-themed so he thought the Doctor would want to keep warm

what a nice guy

>>84954400
6:30BST

>tfw i'm gonna miss the announcement

>>84953545
The entire premise of this post (a scene where he's suffering from hallucinations and spouts out a few callback lines somehow being representative of anything, let alone his overall character) is retarded, but one of the things I'll actually remember most about Capaldi's Doctor is his way with words. One that often sticks out to me is
>I applaud your courage, but I deplore your stupidity. And I will mourn your deaths, which will be terrifying, painful, and without honour.
I thought they always wrote him with an interesting balance of eloquence, contempt, and compassion.

>>84954400
in Burgerland I think it should be around 1:30 PM

Why doesn't he just use some regeneration energy for his new eyes?

Ten did it for a fuckin' hand.

The christmas special ends with One and Twelve going back to their respective TARDISes to regenerate. Twelve has held off his regeneration for too long and is close to death; he's changed his mind and realizes he has to change, but he's struggling to trigger to final regeneration energy. At the last minute, McGann comes up the stairs from the console room's basement, cradles Capaldi in his arms, and holds a chalice of magic timelord potion to his lips, helping him drink it, and whispers "physician, heal thyself" as he regenerates into that old hag from the Sisterhood of Karn.

>>84953435
One question: is he Irish in it?

>>84954473
You can't wank with your eyes.

>>84953255
I would argue that S9 Doctor wasn't kind. At least, not straight away. Remember he totally allowed that one girl to get murdered in Before the Flood, just so he could motivate himself. It was only with Ashildr that he forced himself to be kind despite the danger.

>>84954473
The hand was whilst he still had regeneration energy flowing through him or something.

>>84954508
Yes.

>>84954400
They said it's after the men's final which should finish earlier so they could do a 5 minute cutaway for the announcement like they did for Bill.

>>84953814
>>84953712
>>84953545
>>84952526

How many times did Ten say "I don't want to go"?

Sit down, you upsetting cunt.

>>84954531
True, but I expect they'll probably run the Wimbledon credits and then a big fade in from black will happen revealing 13, rather than them just slotting a brief scene/reveal in the middle of tennis stuff.

>>84954508
It's what /who/ is guessing because 1. It would be fresh. and 2. He did a flawless Northern Irish accent in a movie years back. But he could just be his anglo self in it.

>>84954564
at least twice

>>84954531
I'm expecting a run of the trailer today mid-tennis, and then the continuity announcer coming in once BBC Wimbledon ends (6:30) telling us all to stay tuned to find out who the next Doctor is...

>>84954190
>Anyways, I'm off now, ive been neglecting my wagecuck work for too long so later /who/
later anon!

>>84954193
wise as always

>>84954204
I know you probably won't care about stuff like this, but people would be so much more receptive to engaging with you if you framed it like "Here's my take on 12's character development" instead of presenting your opinion as fact, complete with condescending quote marks, from the get-go. Is it about appearing superior, or having conversation?

>>84954204
>After pressure from BBC higher-ups, Moffat massively overcompensates by turning the character into a gimmicky goofy clown in Series 9.
How do you reconcile "I am an idiot", with its requisite flashbacks tying up 12's mindset through most of S8's episodes?

>>84954279
Do you truly consider being mindful of how you talk to be "policing yourself"? I'm not asking that in like an incredulous "wow you're a dick" way, I'm legitimately interested, because that viewpoint is so alien to me. Everything I say, I always try to empathise with who I'm saying it to, so I can communicate it in the best way. Then again I work in PR and my mind's been full of positioning theory and whatnot for years so I guess I come at comms from a different angle, it's just who I am.

>No argument should need a sentence to validate it as an opinion and not fact, common sense should have you already noticing that.

It's not a question of need, or policing, or restraint, it's a question of efficient communication. If I want a cigarette, I'm not going to go to some rando at the pub and go "hey cunt, give us ya ciggies or I'll slice ya mum", I'd ask "hey, mind if I bum one?" if a mate pulls out a pack or something. I'm not crushing my free speech or anything there, I'm just acting as appropriate for the context, and I get the best outcome for everyone involved.

>Bottom line: Don't take to it heart, man.
Me earnestly engaging in a convo doesn't equal me being personally offended or anything dude.

You can chastise me all you want but I don't think a non white man or a woman would ever suit the role. He's been white so long that I wouldn't like him being anything but white and male.

>>84953814
Question,
Why is giving each iteration of the Doctor a specific catchphrase a good thing?

12 '''seems''' underdeveloped because the time war thing wasn't around.

How long after Capaldi was announced did we see his costume photo?

>>84954516
That's a very good point t b h, can you think of a term less "kind" than kind, but that communicates he's not (as) standoffish anymore?

So if Kris does adopt an Irish accent for 13, is /who/ officially a source of meme magic? because we predicted everything else correctly.

>>84954156
May I add your trip identity into a Shit Trips 2 submission?

I'm from France, so I will have to tune in around 7:30 PM, right ?
I can't wait to read all the SJW rage comments if it's Marshal.

>>84954658
Announced: August 2013
Costume reveal: January 2014

According to a reliable poster on GB, 13 didn't even know they were 13 until around a month ago.

When Kris is announced tomorrow, do you think we'll hear his Irish accent?

>>84954694
Rage at a character who's always been a white man continuing to be a white man? Why?

>>84954658
The pointing-at-stuff with Capaldi in 11's costume was revealed on 7th January 2014.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-peter-capaldi-pictured-2997416

Capaldi had been announced on 4th August 2013.

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>>84954703
desu Capaldi might've been in his costume from the getgo

>>84954716
He's not going to be announced.

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>>84953082
If the show goes in any direction that even alludes to something along the lines of the fucking Cyberwoman then whoever plays the role can suck my balls

>>84954681
Sure!

>>84954754
shhh I'm trying to see what the 'leakers' say

I wanted waller bridge. Fleabag is good.

At this point I am convinced it's Kris Marshall. If it's not, it'll be a nice surprise. Really looking forward to sunday.

>>84954694
I live in the same time zone as you, so 7:30 PM yes. Though I don't really know how Wimbledon works, anyone know if scheduling could change if the match isn't over at that time? I know some tennis games can go on for hours long.
Either way I'm gonna have to watch it live to make sure I don't miss anything.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13434749
http://www.strawpoll.me/13434749
http://www.strawpoll.me/13434749

choose one

Chris Chibnall and Kris Marshall will be sitting on a couch together on Sunday get fucking hype.

>>84954820
Chris/Kris GOLDEN AGE

>>84954716
His Irish accent better be one of those incomprehensible rural ones that require subtitles. Otherwise...

D
R
O
P
P
E
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>>84954850
We already had a Chris golden age!

>>84954680
Yes

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>tfw Moffat's known for months the next Doctor is a white male so has baited tumblr with hints of a female regen

>>84954902
He started "baiting" a female regen in s8, years before planning 13's era started

>>84954788
I hate her.

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>>84954204
1. The Doctor struggles with his identity after all he's been through, only after a confrontation with an old friend does he find himself again
2. The Doctor's old problems are catching up with him yet again and get his only friend killed. His fixation turns into obsession as he breaks his own rules to undo it.
3. The Doctor commits himself to help his now willing old mate see eye to eye with his values, but now her past catches up with her and breaks things. After which the Doctor is forced to move on again but rejects the idea of changing who he is to do it.

All the while we've come to learn that this Doctor is a genuine, altruistic man who craves exposure and has an absurd sense of justice for helping those in need or those he's wronged.

And honestly, that's just the surface.

>>84954938
I'm sure your basis for this is totally rational

SUCK MY HAIRY BALLS CHRIS

>>84953361
>https://www.oddschecker.com/tv/doctor-who/next-doctor

I would be ok with a female Doctor, but not with Jodie Whittaker. That would be a terrible, terrible choice. She was great in Broadchurch, but she would be a shit Doctor.

What's the reveal gonna be like do you think? A short trailer showing 13? Or a chatshow thing like with Capaldi? It's weird because nothing's scheduled on the BBC, it's just Wimbledon until 18:30 and then the news. My bet's on a trailer only, but who knows, they might've done a short pre-filmed Q&A and air that once the final match is over.

>>84954948
I really like how you frame it around Missy a lot, that works well

post yfw it's actually an unknown actor

>>84954204
It was the plan from the fucking start to have him change over time you retard. He wasn't always going to be the hostile Doctor of series 8. It was a literal character arc. God you runts are beyond simple.

>>84954981
They wouldn't have footage for a trailer, surely. I think it will be like the Bill introduction scene, a short, random, untethered scene of 13 doing some vaugely Doctor-y thing. That played well when they did it for Bill.

>>84954989
if he/she was unknown then he/she wouldnt have acted in anything

Tom Rosenthal's odds have just surged within the past 30 mins

KEK!

>>84955032
It's not him. No matter how much Mini Matt Smith wanks off to the idea of it being him.

>>84955028
Matt Smith was pretty unknown.

>>84953545
>Give me a 12-specific line, right now.

>12 doesn't have a shitty lame catchphrase like 'geronimo', so he has no character.

fuck offerino

>>84955011
T b h in many ways it's a redux of what Colin Baker endlessly bangs on about being the original plan for his run, so it's not like some huge stretch. "Goes from mean to nice" isn't rocket science, although 12 is more like "goes from mean to carefree to responsible to sad" IMO

>>84955011
>it was the plan because it lines up with my viewpoints

>>84954948
Clara was going to leave in Last Christmas, they definitely didnt plan to have an arc relating to her in S9

That teaser was great. I was on my commute mindlessly scrolling through Facebook when I saw it. The key, the slight electric currents, 13 appearing all over the planet. Great way to hype things up, and doing the reveal at the end of a huge sports thing is a great idea because the entire country will be watching.

>>84955056
Who is Mini Matt Smith? I've heard the name and that there's some kind of drama where people hate him or something but I need juicy details

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>>84954984
You're quick. A lot of who he is was seamlessly tied into her.

>>84955075
Explains why it was such a clusterfuck.

>>84955075
It's cool how Flatline retroactively ties very directly into her character arc for S9, and I liked how Moff actually directly played those ideas of Clara getting repeated "outs" from the TARDIS life but not taking them into the actual themes for S9. A TV writer who can fit unexpected production stuff like actors suddenly deciding to stay on, into actual fitting story beats, is a wonderful thing and I'm sure something the bosses like about him.

From GB

>I know who it is believe me or not. From the same source I received my series 10 finale spoilers (which all turned out to be true) It's neither Jodie Whittaker or Kris Marshall. It is however someone who has been mentioned on here before and relatively recently too. I don't want to say directly who because I don't want to affect the betting odds but I think you may be able to work out who it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Whittaker

She has also starred in the television series Tess of the D'Urbervilles (2008), Wired (2008), Return to Cranford (2009), Marchlands (2011), Black Mirror (2011), Broadchurch (2013 - 2017), The Assets (2014),"Trust Me" (2017), and Doctor Who (2017)

>>84955193
Yay, vague unsubstantiated """spoilers""" that reveal precisely nothing, how thrilling

>>84955193
>believing anyone on gbase

for all we know it mightve been someone who frequent /who/ thaat posted that

>>84955193

What are your guesses anons ? And what are guesses on GB?

>>84955193
>someone who has been mentioned on here before

that narrows it down to every actor in the UK, really helpful.

Didn't they say that it was going to be the actress who placed missys final appearance as her? Might hint that she will be back playing another character.

>>84955247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsFLUhP1kJs

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>it's a everyone-in-the-history-of-time-and-space-was-a-lesbian-gay-minority-and-the-heterosexual-majority-never-existed-and-is-a-myth-and-you-will-be-reminded-the-campanion-is-a-woman-that-likes-women-not-men-you-silly-boys episode.

>>84955208
Stop spamming

>>84954614
>Do you truly consider being mindful of how you talk to be "policing yourself"?
It depends on how much I have to do it and the situation I'm in. This is casual anonymous discussion on 4chan so I don't feel like I need to put "in my opinion" or anything, no filter is needed here.

>Everything I say, I always try to empathise with who I'm saying it to, so I can communicate it in the best way.
Sure, but again, faceless typing, there isn't anyone to emphathise at face-value and I'm not having a 1 to 1 chat with you. There isn't a best approach here besides just doing it, it's what makes this site so fun.

>It's not a question of need, or policing, or restraint, it's a question of efficient communication. If I want a cigarette, I'm not going to go to some rando at the pub and go "hey cunt, give us ya ciggies or I'll slice ya mum", I'd ask "hey, mind if I bum one?" if a mate pulls out a pack or something. I'm not crushing my free speech or anything there, I'm just acting as appropriate for the context, and I get the best outcome for everyone involved.
Same thing here. That's basic manners and following the general rule of "not being a cunt". We're under more complex layers of how to act because this is discussion.
And again, I legit don't feel like my first post was any less efficient to putting in my idea.
Finally I just feel that we're fundamentally thinking differently when expressing. I like to throw this phrase a lot because my vocabulary is shit, but this is random internet discussion, the thought of a best outcome for everyone involved or anything of the sort barely goes through my head. I'm just talking to nameless strangers who I'll never meet personally.

>Me earnestly engaging in a convo doesn't equal me being personally offended or anything dude.
Alright then, I was worried about that.

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>>84955208
Alright I'm a Jodiefag but come on.

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Why did psychopathic mass-murderer Missy suddenly develop a conscience?

How am I supposed to listen to Big Finish on Spotify when I am stuck using shuffle play and listening to multiple parts of multiple audio dramas rather than the one I want?

>all the "it's X" spam will end in a few days time

Thank fuck.

>>84955340
Because she caught a nasty case of being a Moffat Female Character, which meant she had to fall in love with the Doctor.

>>84955193
Gb users always do it, it's not x or x.

>>84955365
Until 2021, kek.

>>84955365
We'll know who it is in less than 48 hours

>>84955365
it's rosenthal though

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>>84955349
Turn shuffle, off, maybe? Download the desktop app and get the taskbar to look like this.

>>84955365

There's still the new companion

>He doesn't know we'll just move on to 14 to aggravate him

>>84955441
Won't they show that, too? It'd make sense if they did, but I don't know if they'd get away with it.

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>I don't want to go
>my life is shit
>that incarnation was shit
>I was piss
*regenerate into Stephanie Hyam*

Kris/Jodie/Phoebe

Basically between these three.

>>84955419
I listened to one on my computer last night, but I want to listen on my phone now. I got the app but it is stuck on shuffle mode unless you pay.

>>84955297
Just the whole idea of mindfulness being filter is crazy to me, it's like saying a tongue is a "filter" for speaking, or that my feet are a "filter" for walking, they're not filters, they're the active tools that do the process.

>I'm just talking to nameless strangers who I'll never meet personally.

But they're still people. If I tell someone to kill themselves here, they aren't a bot or anything, there's an actual person on the other end of the keyboard reading that and knowing it's directed to them. I don't really get this point. You'll never meet them personally, so what? They're people and your actions affect them. You can't see it, but...so what? They're still real. But neither of us are dicks so idk what the problem really is, neither of us are bullying anyone or anything so it's all good.

I forget what post we're even talking about at this point t b h but we both seem to agree that people have different communication styles and that's a pretty normal thing so, uh, cool.

>>84955365
Ikr?

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>>84955489
So, Rosenthal, then?

>>84955509
kek, have fun then, cunt

>>84955509
Then pay or stop whining.

>>84955530
how the fuck did you know anon? it was supposed to be a secret

>>84955489

Phoebe went out of her way to get the company she owns to tweet out a denial, this was after she'd already denied it in an interview
https://twitter.com/DryWrite/status/882584735758909441

and Fleabag series 2 filming starts soon, I really doubt it's her.

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>>84955555
quints of truth, RIP

You missed a good chance to say who it actually was, there.

>>84955378
It was pretty clear it was platonic.

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>>84955579
>company tweets out it's not her
>witty commenters underneath tweeting "Rule 1 - The Doctor Lies!"

I hope someone fucking nukes this fanbase.

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>>84955486
BASED PISS HEATHER

>>84953082
i wont mind if its a woman, might be cool. but if its a transfat transnigger transwoman transgoldfish im killing myself

>>84955555
Can't argue with those numbers.
Got to find a job first.

>>84955579
smoke and mirrors anon, smoke and mirrors

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Fuck this fandom. I'm leaving with Peter.

>>84955523
neo not everyone is inherently kind and empathic, and even for some who are, it doesn't come naturally (will Graham style) like it does for you.

>>84955633
Is this a meme now?
Where did this come from?

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Is this the best look the doctor has ever had?

>>84953082
I already dropped the show

better a woman than capaldick

>>84953082
I wouldn't drop it but I would be annoyed that they messed with the core structure of the premise solely to appease a small part of the fanbase.

New
>>84955727
>>84955727
>>84955727

>>84955703
Worst 12 outfit right there

>>84955723
Oh yeah I forgot Doctor Who isn't about adventures in time and space, but instead about masculinity from a strictly male perspective

>>84955723
The show can have a woman. It's just a person with a box going on adventures, plus women today need to be shown that women can be Doctors.

>>84955703
Probably among the worst actually.

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>>84955623
>witty commenters underneath tweeting "Rule 1 - The Doctor Lies!"
I wish Moffat had never started this fucking trend.

>>84955340
Because being locked in a single room until she started apologising to the Doctor gave her stockholm syndrome.

I tried watching Rose to binge on nu-Who again, but I just can't do it. How's Torchwood?

>>84955869
Even worse

>>84955340
I think she is the new doctor that got messed up after getting stranded on that spaceship with the master and cyber men. Don't forget the mysterious black hole too.

>13 is Andy Murray
pls no

it's Aneurin Barnard

It's Cloister

>>84956228
Wraith?

>>84956237
Fuck off

>>84955758
Fuck off back to tumblr, faggot

>>84956353
Fuck off back to 4chan, shitlord

>>84956431
Faggot, tumblr to back off fuck