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>>84939617
>when they reach it they travel instantaneously
Sometimes that isn't enough, and you have to get there faster than that: getting there before you even leave. To prevent paradoxes, the longer you travel, the earlier you can get somewhere. Traveling from one end of the universe to the other allows you to cut several hours from the time you started.

>>84939617
that nice mulatto lady looks like she could use some D

>>84939617

The crew were messing with Picard because he was old and senile.

>>84939617
Transwarp lad

>>84939617
warp 10 apparently transports you to every place in the universe at once, whatever that means

Why don't they just teleport themselves to faraway planets like they did in the movie.

>>84939617
that's not how warp works anymore

Are humans the Q? I got the feeling at the end of the episode, that Q wants us to evolve. What happened with Wesley also indicates it

>>84939617
they probably reclassified 9.5 to warp 10 and 9.6 to warp 11 and 9.7 to warp 12 and 9.8 to warp 13

>>84939617
That's how it used to be but they reworked warp speeds. I think warp used to scale exponentially, but your average joe wouldn't understand that the difference between 9.9 and 9.95 would be huge.

No idea how it is now. Also that long range beaming is the most retarded shit ever.

>>84940726
Ok so what's the rundown. I never understood why there were levels in the first place

>>84940751
Warp is a factor. Warp 1 is FTL. Each warp after 1 is exponentially faster than the one that preceeded it. So at Warp 4 you're travelling 100+ times faster than Warp 1.

>>84940803
Why didnt they just define warp as lightspeed +1m/s and double it from there hm? If warp 4 is 4 100 times the speed of light, whats warp 10? Why would voyager take so long to get home if they were supposedly going maximum fast?

>>84940878
>Why would voyager take so long to get home if they were supposedly going maximum fast?
The galaxy is a big place.

>>84940634

this desu, saying warp factor 9.99999975 probably gets annoying

>>84940920
why weren't they using the stargates to get home?

Why did the Enterprise travel so often at stupid speeds like Warp 2 or Warp 3?

>>84939617

You'd figure in the 24th century they'd have a cure for Senility. If they suspected Picard was suffering from Dementia, they could have just sent him for treatments.

>>84939617
>What? I thought Warp 10 is the max, and when they reach it they travel instantaneously

Obviously they went back to the TOS warp scale.

>>84942604
Yea listening to voyager is dumb. Just retcon that shit

I have started DS9 since I just finished TNG, why is the image quality so much worse than in TNG?
I found 1080p version of TNG easily, but only low quality 480p for DS9

>>84942906
Because they haven't made 1080p versions of DS9 episodes.

>>84939617
Enhanced warp drive. It's Like Warp 9.999999

>>84942906
TOS and TNG are the only series that got HD remasters. DS9 would've been next if the TNG Blu Rays sold better but they didn't

>>84943050
weren't the tng-blurries like 100 bucks per season?

You know, for a ship that was designed with fighting the Borg in mind, the Defiant got pretty badly thrashed. I mean, not as badly as the Miranda-class did but all the same.

>>84943188
It wasn't built to 1v1 cubes. It was a easily built weapon platform for mass production

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>>84943188
It wasn't designed to take a cube on 1 on 1. It was supposed to be squadron of Defiant class swarming the the motherfucker.

However it wasn't that successful.

That's why Star Fleet designed the Prometheus class. One ship becomes a whole squadron. One squadron becomes a fleet.

>>84943255
I realize, but it wasn't exactly 1v1ing the cube in First Contact. I suppose an argument could be made that given how well the rest of the fleet was doing it might as well have been against the cube solo.

That would've been interesting to see: Starfleet attempting to stop a cube with a swarm of Defiant-class.

>>84943301
The Defiant (and the rest of the fleet) did a hell of a lot better against the cube than the fleet at Wolf 359.

I wouldn't consider it a failure as such. Starfleet basically put the best tech it had in the most agile package they could.

>>84939617
Most ships can only hit warp 10
These go to eleven.

>>84943373
That's fair.
Do you think the Dominion would fair decently against the Borg? Not like the "swarms of cubes" sort of invasion that guy in Voyager who could learn languages fast talked about but just a single cube to prod at them like the Federation. I personally think the Dominion would win in a "conventional" manner, but would have astronomically higher casualties.

>>84942519
To give the crew time to rest

>>84943423
The Dominion would have a very hard time. I think they would initially do very well. However as the borg adapt to their tactics and technology things would go very south. Especially if they got a hold of their cloning technology. They be cranking out tactile jem'hadar drones with thier personal shroud devices. The galaxy would be in a pretty shit circumstance.

God forbid they ever assimilated a founder.

>>84943423
The Dominion has won all its wars by having the superior numbers, firepower, and technology. If the Borg adapt to their tech, they might have trouble coming up with countermeasures. After all, their scientists are all clones. That could present a problem coming up with truly innovative out-of-the-box solutions. Like they couldn't come up with a cure with the virus Section 31 made.

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Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

>>84943588
Plus the founders are extremely arrogant. Their over confidence would extremely detrimental to opponent that is extremely adapt and creative.

Hence the loss to federation and their allies.

They couldn't take down O'Brien's mine field.

>>84943569
Considering obedience and doctrine are drilled into both Vorta and Jem'Hadar in birth, assimilating one of them will probably fuck over all their strategy in a major way.

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>>84943612
Jesus christ stop this pointless spam and get some sleep or whatever you need to stop being an obnoxious fag that shill so hard a character that I'm starting to question the sympathy I had for him before I saw all of your posts in every trek threads.

>>84943569
>>84943588
This is gonna be a particularly speculative post.
Cloaking never struck me as a particularly Borg thing to do. With all their knowledge base and the fact that they've assimilated Klingons and probably Romulans (the colonies along the Neutral zone), the Borg probably just don't use cloaking because it's less efficient in some way and they've determined they just don't need to.
Cloning, too, doesn't strike me as very Borg since "extra manpower" seems to be rather bottom rung in terms of Borg priority under normal circumstances. Assimilation is one part growth of numbers but more importantly is growth of knowledge.
Jem'Hadar would in all likelihood make "excellent tactical drones" but there is the problem where once the Borg had assimilated one, they more or less know everything there is to possibly know about the Jem'hadar. They intend to make the culture and technology of others their own, and Jem'hadar don't really have a culture and don't produce technology.
Vorta might be a bit more interesting, even if their "culture" is equally nonexistent when compared to the Jem'hadar, but at least their genetically engineered minds might be somewhat useful to the Borg. I'd imagine that the Borg would assimilate Vorta and Jem'hadar if they could, but never go out of their way to because unless they desperately needed numbers, they basically don't add anything to the collective.

Do you think they could assimilate a liquid? We don't know how similar Changlings are to "solids," but we also don't know how adaptable Borg nanoprobes are.
>>84943778
Who, the Dominion military or the Borg? I can't imagine the collective being too terribly disturbed by the new drones, but I also don't see Jem'hadar blindly following the orders of an assimilated First. They're a little more clever than that... right?

>>84943778
Assimilating one founder could cause a major civil war inside the Dominion.

There would probably be a Vorta at DS9 within a week begging the federation for assistance.

>>84943852
how do you strap cybernetic implants at a puddle tho ?

>>84943836
>Who, the Dominion military or the Borg?

I meant that assimilating a Jem'Hadar or a Vorta would make pretty easy for the Borg to anticipate and adapt to Dominion strategy.

>>84943868
Nanomachines (-probes), son!

>>84943868
If the Borg nanites could convert the Founder, uh, "goop," then maybe? They could skip the implantation process and the Founder would just take the form of a drone or something, but with "implants" appearing or disappearing as needed.

>>84943836
Nooo the Jem'Hadar are technology. The borg would use them as tactile asset.

Especially if it's the Borg post Section 31 agent Janeway's obliteration of the unimatrix. The Borg who survived that would be a lot more aggressive.

>>If the borg can adapt to species 8472 then could assimilate a founder no problem.

>>84943969
That's a good point. Borg from after that might value manpower as maximum priority if they're trying to recuperate a loss of over a trillion (if I'm remembering that correctly).

what about ketracel-white? could the borg work their nanomagic to replace it, render it unnecessary?

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>>84944165
Most regular humanoids seem to require sleep, food, the presence of an atmosphere, etc. We've seen the Borg walk on the surface of a ship's hull in space without any apparent negative effects. I'd imagine it'd be relatively simple for the Borg to deal with that particular failing.

>>84944188
Of course they could, they have bigger costume budgets.

>>84943819
Implying that only one person posts it

>>84944165
Obviously. Just install an organ that synthesizes the ketracel.

>>84939617
Cleveland was in Starfleet?!

>>84942519
>Why did the Enterprise travel so often at stupid speeds like Warp 2 or Warp 3?

No rush plus faster costs more dilithium.

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>>84940803
>>84940878
>>84940920

>>84944422
Impulse is fast man

Why did they turned the lights of in the movie(generations)? It looks weird

>>84944680
To make it more moody and cinematic. The TV show sets were lit like a 90's TV show.

>>84944680
Picard has a light phobia now, because of the fucking Kardashians.

He also has a phobia about numbers.

>>84944729
>Kardashians
>not sure if cheap joke or a very weird auto-correct

I kind of like Enterprise's whole Augment Virus bit with the Klingons because to me it helps rationalize how un-klingon Chang and Azetbur look in Undiscovered Country. Just like their families still have enough of affected Klingon blood to visually make them seem more human. Could go a step further and reason that the reason why Chang was so war-minded and yet also fixated upon Shakespeare was a need to prove his "Klingoness" but also a weird desire to learn his "heritage."

Also, Chang is a tremendously unklingon sounding name.

>>84944773
I'm a shipskate.

>>84944422
>Takes 4 days at Warp 9.6 to travel 20ly
>It takes 52 years to travel 10000ly
That doesn't make any sense, it should be 2000 days, or 5 and a half years. And how the fuck could the Federation operate if it takes that long for people to travel across it. "Hey, want to join Starfleet? Great, spend 20 years of your life flying to San Francisco."

>>84939617
The Warp scale was standardized after TNG, Warp 13 is something like Warp 9.9972 in Voyager

>>84944422
>255 years to cross Federation Space at cruising speed

That's just silly, the chart must be wrong. As interesting as it would be to see a sci-fi show deal with the logistical and administrative nightmare of running a society which took upwards of two and a half centuries to cross, that show is not Star Trek.

>>84943050
They were too fucking expensive

>Discovery will be shit
>Still want to see it
Dammit I need my trek dose.

>>84943050
>spend millions of dollars remastering TNG
>release it on Netflix
>wonder why it didn't sell well
Fucking Paramount is run by retards.

>>84944947
And now I'll tell you what it feels like being inside a vagina.

>>84944899
That version of the chart has a typo in that column. All the travel times at that distance are supposed to be x10 faster.

>>84945149
Bags filled with old fishy coins right?

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>>84945149
Commander, tell me about your sexual organs.

>>84943836
I don't think Jem Hadar are good drones since they would die without the ketrical white infections

>>84940900
This fucking guy.... What do you think he's up to right now?

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>>84945470
Hey Hey there babe, watcha doin?

GUYS

I have this amazing idea for a trek movie. Get this: an alien attacks and its up to the Enterprise and crew to save the day. But here's the kicker, the Enterprise gets DESTROYED HOLY FUCK

>>84945850
What's the alien's motivation? It had better be revenge. I won't watch a Star Trek movie where the motivation isn't revenge.

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I Kickstarted the DS9 documentary Adam Nimoy is doing. One of the reasons why DS9 didn't have a HD or bluray is because going back and finding 20 year old negatives to remaster wouldn't have been cost productive. Apparently though they made enough money off crowdfunding for the doc that they can do that now so at least the documentary will have HD clips from the show. Hopefully this may lead to a bluray.

>>84945850
And a twist to make it interesting. Janeway is the captain. The aliens stole all coffee

>>84945921
he wants that beastie boys cd all for himself

>>84945921
>That's all Star Trek is, putting someone on a planet and coming back finding them pissed off.

about to finish the first season of the original series

is there a 'good time' to watch wrath of khan?

>>84945932
Why would you waste your money on kickstarter
You might as well light a cigar with buying $100 bills

>>84946213
*burning

>>84945992
After watching The motion picture, but I watched it after Space Seed for character reasons

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>>84946213
Because spending $600 got me a ticket to STLV and a 30 person meet and greet with the cast of DS9.

>>84946044
After you finish the original series and after you watch The Motion Picture.

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>>84943612

>>84946729
I'd say cardassians are more a grey than white

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>>84943588
I wonder how well The Borg would be able to adapt against their Jihadi tactics. Tractor beams will work against one ship, maybe two or three if they fucking love tractor beams, but eventually one will get through.

>>84947548
If a direct hit from a spread of photon torpedos didn't do anything to a cube, a little ship crashing into it wouldn't do much more. Maybe one of the large jem'hadar battleships.

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>>84943569
>God forbid they ever assimilated a founder.

>>84943836
>Do you think they could assimilate a liquid? We don't know how similar Changlings are to "solids," but we also don't know how adaptable Borg nanoprobes are.

I don't think Borg could assimilate a changeling, I think they're some kind of biological crystal structure (Bashir always technobabbled about Odo's morphogenic matrix) which presumably they manipulate to change their shape and size, but borg nanoprobes are pretty clearly designed to take control of humanoid cell structures, they wouldn't be able to attach themselves and would need to be redesigned, which will certainly take years if it's even possible at all.

>>84943685
>They couldn't take down O'Brien's mine field.
Rom's* minefield.

>>84940878
Voyager couldn't travel at constant maximum warp the entire way, because energy is not infinite and they had limited resources. They had to try to travel at speeds that made efficient use of their available power. Also, they were in a lot of uncharted space and had to stop and make course corrections around dangerous areas of space, various hostile species, and now and then for Janeway to get some murder out of her system.

>>84944235
For you.

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>>84947742
Photon torpedos aren't anywhere near the same league as a warp core breach, and a ship will penetrate a lot further into a cube than a torpedo before exploding.

I was actually always quite disappointed with the portrayal of warp core breaches, antimatter explosions are ridiculously powerful. Even a leak in an antimatter fuel tank should start a chain reaction that can't be stopped once it comes into contact with normal matter.

>>84943411
Why not just make ten faster?

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So like was Worf technically Russian?

>>84948049
No, fun fact: he's a Klingon

>>84947548
They are probably well shielded against kinetic impacts as that would be a primary defensive measure of many species.

>>84947773
>>84943569
Founders can't be assimilated as explained in the DS9 book Lesser Evil

>>84943423
The Borg would decimate the Founders. They could assimilate and easily destroy the Jem'hadar and Vorta, while just outright killing the founders.

The only reason the Federation was able to stand against them was because of human ingenuity. Species 8472 only did it because they were from another dimension and both couldn't be assimilated and had better tech than the Borg.

>>84948103
never heard of them

>>84948023
Using this >>84947548 as an example, a warp core breach of a Jem'hadar attack craft would probably be a fart in the wind to a cube. Cubes should be nearly indestructible.

>>84948023
is that JC Denton?

>>84948140
>book
Heh.

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>>84948237
Pretty good.

>>84939617
Warp 10 was the max - until they raised it. Warp 20 is the max at that point. So instead of saying "Warp 9.9999975" You say Warp 13 or whatever. STO explains it better where they talk about anything above 10 being considered transwarp.

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>>84947773
>need to be redesigned, which will certainly take years if it's even possible at all
I don't think it could be, they'd basically need to make nanoscopic changeling robots, and if they could do that, why would they want to assimilate a real changeling?

>>84948196
He does look more JC than who it's supposed to be (Albert Wesker), that's from Resident Evil: Afterlife.

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>>84939617
Actually it's canon that going faster than warp 10 turns you into a salamander.

Why do Borg cubes have an atmosphere if Borgs can survive in the subzero vaccum of space?

>>84942519
Faster warp speeds cause Space Pollution and Federation was watching their emissions

Lest you thought that ST was ever not a leftist show

>>84948356
why did they leave their babies there?

>>84948356
is that the episode where janeway has sex with tom paris in lizard form and gets pregnant and has babies and is never mentioned again?

why didn't they turn the babies into humans? they would've had a mix of their parents' DNA, which was able to be turned into a human

>>84948380
That episode was crazy. Data said that it would take more warp energy than any number of ships could generate over an extended period of time to cause a rift and bitch goes off and explodes her warp core.

>>84948237
A daring synthesis

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>>84948414
It would be a waste of resources. Resources that can be used to make coffee, and Janeway loves coffee

>>84939617
they had ships in Voyager going Warp 15, warp 17, trans-warp, etc. I don't think they give a fuck.

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>>84943411
nice

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>>84943411
checked and keked

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What warp speed did Neelix travel to turn into this genetic holocaust?

>>84949052
He is a pedophile, they all look weird

>>84943411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPr1JR1Iu3w

>>84949052
left girl has some amazing titties

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Man sollte aber auf keinen Fall die Phrasesynchronisation per Protonenhüllenkurve der antisubkonjektiven Schnellspulautomatik des oszillierenden VSR-Modulkompressors integrieren, oder?

>>84949052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1oQJiajB4

>>84949052
Wait, Neelix didn't wear shoes? Did he ever wear shoes on the ship?

>>84949312
is that second life? does that game exist for anything other than sexual deviancy?

>>84948380
That was such a dumb restriction that they eventually retconned it with some bullshit about how they could stop the damage by changing the alignment of the warp nacelles which is why Voyager had nacelles that locked into a different configuration to enter high warp.

>>84948380
That was funny as fuck. Especially when in the next two episodes they got permission to exceed the limits, and didn't gave a fuck after that

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Elvis didn't die, he was transported to the 24th century to become Wesley's unseen father

>>84949533
I don't think Wesley deserves all the hate he gets. He deserves more than that.

>>84949533
But we did see his father. There was a recording he made when Wesley was born, and he also appeared in his vision

>>84949625
That's what they want you to believe

>>84949533
He evolved into a Q, he is Elvis

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>>84949533
I'm Wesley's daddy now. Number One, inform the crew of this new development.

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*blocks your path*

>>84945932
did bashir gay with garak

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Remember that episode where Picard tried to propose to a 2 years old? Fucking amazing

>>84949849
Garak wanted to go that route but Bashir being a Muslim was against it.

>>84949848
I don't think I've ever hated something as much as I hated the religious subplot of DS9.

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>>84949456
>It's a /trek/ doesn't like an episode because they disagree with the real-world basis of the morality tale episode

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>>84949849
They did in my heart.

>>84945932
Ay hol up fampai. It wasn't cost effective to go back and remaster DS9 but it was cost effective to go back even further to remaster TNG and TOS?

>>84949866
our guy

>>84949907
Nigga the staff writers didn't even like that dumb restriction.

> As Ronald D. Moore stated in the Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages book: ...when you limit warp drive, the rug is being pulled out from under Star Trek.

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Favorite starship design?

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>>84949936
TNG is a way more popular series and one you could way more likely make a profit off of. There is no point in digging up costly old negatives for a series that isn't as popular or marketable.

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>>84949848
*blocks your dominion relief force*

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>>84950003

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>>84949936
Are you retarded? There are only 79 episode of TOS so that's easy, TNG has barely any effects so it was mostly just getting all the film and taking a new copy of it. DS9 is full of battles, especially towards the end, and most of it was done by third parties who they'd either have to pay to track down the assets and re-render, or do all of them again from scratch. Combined with the fact that DS9 had far less viewers than TNG, they are just not going to take the gamble.

>>84949989
The writers should have been paying closer attention, there was an "emergency" clause in the orders Picard received, if they wanted to go faster then they just had to justify it.

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>>84950003
I like the ENT version more.

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>>84950112
>tfw the only HD DS9 we'll ever get was from the TNG crossover episode

The hairs or whatever the lines are in the bottom left corner really bother me though.

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>>84950003
They always have 1 saucer and 2 nacelles. Why not 2 saucers and 1 big nacelle like this? I think that would be pretty imaginative.

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>>84950227
>tfw Bashir in HD

>>84950015
Star Citizen raised over $100 million for basically nothing, remastering DS9 would cost something like $20 million according to some estimates I saw. If CBS would agree to to fund a fraction of it and put it on their stupid streaming service people might actually pony up the money.

I mean it's not going to happen, but a man can dream.

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Who was in the wrong here?

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Is this really going to be the ship in Discovery? It looks like something a Second Life player would put on Deviantart

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>>84950285
>It's a Data points an unknown device at the warp core and activates it episode
They were fucking lucky they had it the wrong way round, that plasma discharged would 100% have caused a warp core breach

>>84950227
Comparison. I'm not sure which version has the real colours though, does anyone know?

>>84950446
We don't know, fan reaction was bad and the marketers started spamming "it's just a preview" so they may have redesigned it, the trailer only shows the Chink Captain's ship which is made of a normal material. It may be that making ships out of bronze is one of the consequences of the universe reboot they're going to do in episode 1 or 2, who knows.

>>84950112
my memory's fuzzy. is that the first or the second defiant?

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>>84950770
That's the first one, the second survived the show, somehow.

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Who was in the wrong here?

>>84950770
First

>Trekkies go WAAHHH THE WAR WITH THE DOMINION IS ANTI-TREK
>when the war is won by Odo talking with the Founder to get her to surrender which is as Star Trek as you can get

The way Picard acts in social situations kinda reminds me of Hank Hill.

>>84950370
the hierarchy

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post best girls

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>>84951006

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>It's a FAAAAAAAAAAKE!

>>84951042
The whole Alice Eve thing was handled really cringey though, like "ha, there's our gratuitous tit shot for the trailer like every action movie does"

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>>84950989
>Boy I tell you hwhat, these here Cardassians sure are a contentious people

>>84951095
Also
Jaylah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carol Marcus

>>84951006
>wearing clothes

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>>84951042
They were sexist to both genders! How rude!

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When will Legate Damar finally put a stop to (((them)))?

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>>84951146
So are you Vulcan on Romulan?

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>>84951001
Serious replies only.

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>>84951208

>>84951505
Do you think they appreciated Feminine Penises on Angel One? Asking for a friend.

>>84948040
These go to 11.

>>84951505
>the planet of Roddenberry's femdom fetish
>they're aliens, not humans, but have names like "Trent" and "Ariel" and look 100% human
>probably don't have warp capability either so contact with them violates the Prime Directive
Why was TNG's first season like this?

>>84942542
space dementia

>>84945149
its full of stars

>>84951713
Roddenberry sticking his dick in everything.

>>84944993
Not only that, but the enterprise was in places like the typhon expanse and qo'nos (both at opposite ends of federation space) in the same fucking season

how do I write a space adventure sci-fi novel without it sounding too much like star trek fan fiction?

>>84939669
Holy shit I never thought about this. Thank you.

>>84951969
>tfw nobody responded to my bullshit, nonsensical, /r/shittyaskscience-tier explanation that I came up with on the spot until now
Why did you thank me for it?

>>84950227
>>84950455
Why no Bajor in the background in HD version?

>>84952297
They already moved the station away from Bajor at that point.

>>84952331
Oh ok, but the HD bajor shot does exists then

>>84951818
I read this in Kevin Murphy's voice

Fuck the reboot.

>>84951945
Make the characters military or morally grey/evil, or have only the aliens using spaceships and the protagonists use something else like stargates or teleporters. Aside from tourists and normies, Star Trek only holds the rights to *Utopian* spaceship sci-fi.

>>84952384
No, for the TNG remaster they just took another print of the model shot of panning over DS9 with the Enterprise docked, Bajor is just rotoscoped/CGI'd into the background along with the starfield. I think Bajor might be a matte painting in the shot too, definitely not a model or whatever.

>>84940900
>"I just want to study you guys"
>kills

>>84952612
>>84952612
For the shot in "Emissary", Bajor is in the background because DS9 was still in orbit around it for the pilot only.
The TNG episode "Birthright" takes place about halfway through DS9's first season, after they already moved DS9 to the mouth of the wormhole, so Bajor is no longer seen.

>>84952715
>Bilderberg Stardate 52858.1

DS9 > TNG > ENT > TOS > VOY.

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This was a cute episode

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40594387

TRANSPORTERS ANY FUCKING DAY NOW

>>84944623
Traveling for a very long duration at high impulse results in time dilation

>>84953109
Don't give them (You)s: http://archive.is/fg5Fr

tl;dr either

>Chink's make such shitty satellites they think they've worked out FTL
>Chinks have no souls and as such no compunction about lying

>>84953298
Shut up, no it doesn't.

>>84953636
>2017
>not wanting to fax yourself to work

>>84940900
Based pusy poster!

>>84953636
>Star Trek Voyager Techinical Manual page 13 says full impulse is 1/4 the speed of light or 74,770 km/s.

How would that not cause time dilation? if you were forced to travel at full impulse for years

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>>84950446
They updated the Discovery ship a while back

>>84953916
klingon as fuck

>>84953916
Still looks retarded. They fell into the trap of "this happens before Enterprise, so the ship must look worse because more primitive". I hope they didn't pay anyone to come up with that design.

>>84953981
woah woah woah

Discovery comes before Enterprise?

fuck that shit

>>84953900
Because the effect would be noticeable even with short trips at impulse which certainly would have been detected and mentioned in the show, which it never was. Time Dilation is real but doesn't seem to apply to Trek methods of space travel, the closest thing we ever got were weird spacetime phenomena episodes like VOY: Twisted and TNG: We'll Always Have Paris.

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>>84953981
>>84953993
No, Discovery isn't even before The Cage.

>>84954034
Will Captain Pike make an appearance?

>>84954034
goddamn that made me angry

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>>84953916

>>84954120
How many cochranes is the USS Pizza Cutter's warp drive and should it be made canon?

>>84954120
What does god need with a pizza cutter?

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>>84953996
Missed opportunity, they could have made some interesting story's

>>84952059
Don't bring reddit here. At least if you browse, can we just try to pretend you don't? I hate their culture, I hate the userbase, I hate the way they talk, and I hate how they invade and take over our culture.

Thinking about how time dilation works always fucks with me.

So the faster you go, the more time around you speeds up?

So if you traveled at light speed for a year, and went back to "normal" speed, everything aorund you will be further along in time than you are?

>>84954924
people age faster on the ISS than on earth

its retarded to even think about without technobabble to allow you to ignore it

>>84954862
Even if I were using it in a disdainful manner, and I was?

>>84945543
>not remembering the episode where Bashir discovers that they won't die without injections, they're just chemically addicted to it as bad as heroin

>>84955308
literally stolen from Stargate

>>84955129
You weren't really using it in a disdainful manner, you were just comparing your shitty answer to something that you might see in a subreddit dedicated to shitty answers.

>>84955329
>drug addiction is stolen from Stargate
mmmmmmmmmmmmk

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>>84939617

Why are they going above Warp 6? Aren't they killing the universe or some shit?

Also, BAJORAN WORKERS MUST ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION

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>>84954924
The faster you go the more time slows down for you, relative to everyone else. I always picture it like a graph with time on the y axis and space on x, when you're standing still your arrow points straight up into the time axis, when you're traveling at light speed your arrow points straight into the space axis, do you're moving through space only and not time.

That's just the way it works brah. Except when you go too fast you turn into a salamander.

GUYS. It's time.

My wife and I have finally reached the point in our episode by episode chronology where it's time for First Contact. We just have to watch VOY: Warlord tonight then we'll be good to go tomorrow.
I'm thinking of making pizza or something to celebrate. She loved Generations because Data was being super "cute" with his Tiny Little Lifeforms song (it's easy to win her over with fanservice), but she knows nothing of what's to come.

I'll update everyone in whatever Trek thread exists tomorrow night.

>>84955468
post her nudes

can someone post the voyager viewing guide please?

>>84955598
/tv/ is an archived board anon

>>84955426
There's also a second factor in gravity. The stronger the gravitational source the slower time will move for you. If you put one clock on the ground and one on top a tower and compare them after a year, you'll see that the tower clock will be ahead of the ground clock.

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>>84955614
there's really nothing much to get out of the Voyager viewing guide, man

>>84943819
It's a bot dude. It searches for enough star trek related keywords in every thread and posts after a certain threshold. Same guy runs the "commander tell me about your sexual organs" bot.

Watch, go to a thread completely unrelated to trek. Post enough trek related words over the course of 10-20 posts and it will pop up.

>>84954924
Time dilation is a factor of both speed and gravity.

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>>84943270
I see that Starfleet adopted the Zapp Brannigan Art of War. Maybe this is why they used so many Miranda's in the Dominion War.

Seriously though against a species that adapts shields and weapons you would think they would deploy some sort of planet killer gun and one-shot a cube.

>>84955614
>>84955706
>tfw you've been meaning to make an actual definitive Voyager viewing guide for months now, but you're an unmotivated piece of shit who procrastinates to the point where it's an actual mental disorder that's ruining your life

>>84955358
And how is that not disdainful if I'm comparing something to what I acknowledge to be shitty?

>>84940634
this

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>>84948608

>>84955924
The entire point of the that subreddit is that they give shitty joke answers. All you're saying is "haha no one replied to my bullshit joke answer just like the ones in that subreddit that make bullshit joke answers"

Didn't come across as disdainful of reddit at all, if you meant it to be it was lost in translation. Also, referencing a subreddit like that outs yourself as a redditposter, which is what my original reply was saying. Can we all just not even talk about reddit?

Which ST has the best first episode?

>>84955388
>Insulting Geordi

Fuck you. Geordi is one of the most based crewmembers.

>>84956029
Depends on what you're looking for.

>Least awkward, most modern-feeling first episode
Enterprise
>Comfiest first episode
TOS
>Most interesting/intriguing first episode
TNG/DS9
>Least offensive/blandest first episode
VOY

>>84955907
I'd love a good Voyager guide, desu. I've been forced to use one from fucking reddit bc anything else I've found have been garbage or tl;dr.

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>>84955426
The craziest part is that, if you plot superluminal travel on the same graph and perform a lorentz transformation, you end up going backwards in time if you exceed c.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUMGc8hEkpc

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>>84948049
Belorussian. Hence why at the end of DS9 he keeps talking about Minsk being the best Earth city.

When you have as committed a fanbase as Star Trek, it's inevitable that you're going to get caught with some inconsistencies. But it could be hand-waved easily enough, like maybe they restructured the warp ratings because bridge officers were tired of saying 'Lay in a course, warp 9.99999999999999999989372272. So maybe now warp 20 is equivalent to warp factor 10, and 'warp 10-19' are various gradations along the warp 9.9+ spectrum.

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>>84956156
You'll never learn to properly appreciate Chakotay if you skip bad episodes though.

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>>84956321
nah, not for skipping purposes, I just like to see up ahead what I'm going to be dealing with. I've watched it all so far (TNG and DS9, currently trying to force myself through Voyager).

>>84956321
A CUCCI MOY AH

>>84956424
was Janeway a lesbian?

>>84953996
The reason why you can say no time dilation occurs is simply that by the time they went from one side of a sector to the other and back, everyone they knew would be dead even though they would have barely aged. Needless to say, that would make space missions useless in the first place.
They probably use space folding instead.

>>84956597
Sevefags like to think so
Patricians however know she and lizard Tom Paris were the one true couple.

>>84956090
What? Enterprise's first episode was so fucking awkward it was enough to turn off anyone with half a brain.

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>>84951221

(((Zink Latinumtip)))

Holy fuck thats hilarious

Why don't TNG era spacesuits use small replicators to produce unlimited oxygen?

>>84956972
drama

>>84945155
whew, was about to go into full autism panic mode

>>84955990
I thought the fact that I was using it along with adjectives such as "nonsense," and "bullshit" was pretty disdaining.
>Also, referencing a subreddit like that outs yourself as a redditposter, which is what my original reply was saying
I really am not. I sometimes browse a single subreddit for news and never look at the comments, and when I do, I always regret doing so. I don't even have an account.

>>84956972
You'd think by then they could just electrochemically strip the oxygen from the carbon.

Much more efficient, why bother with a replicator?

>>84956972
Replicators need energy.

>>84951147
jaylah lewds/nudes when

>>84957392
?

>>84956424
Well if you want to do that, I would recommend the Trek Tracker app. You can select any episode and it has an IMDB synopsis that doesn't really give away too much

>>84957087
D I L I T H I U M P O W E R P A C K S

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>>84957447

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>>84957392
>NO! IT'S REEEEAAALLLLL!

>>84957504
>>84957392
fuckin romulans

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ITT: people who did literally nothing wrong

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>>84957564

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>>84957564
got ya covered, mate

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>that episode where they find that planet stuck in a time anomaly where time on the planet is passing by super slowly

>ship has been low orbit for a day, but to the people on the surface the weird shiny thing in the sky has been there for generations and is spoken of in legends

>astronaut from the planet makes it to the ship and says its been his dream to visit the weird thing in the sky
>they try to send him back but by time he gets back like 500 years have passed on the planet and nobody even knows who he is and yells at him over the radio for entering restricted airspace

>>84957624
>gowron
>did nothing wong

nah

>>84957626
>when you rip off of a classic sci fi short story and still call yourself a professional Hollywood writer for Star Trek: Voyager™

>>84957626
>It's a Daniel Dae Kim episode

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>>84957624
Chart is missing /outguy/

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>>84957624
>serial mind rapist did nothing wrong

>>84957905
Are you talking about the guy who mindraped Troi? I don't see him on there

>>84957074
Because then they could tailor the atmosphere to other species such as Benzites.

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>>84957019
>literally defending yourself this hard to a stranger on an indonesian sock-knitting forum

>>84957973
Shit I mistook another guy for him

>>84958187
You know who really doesn't belong there is Kai Winn. We should replace her with /ourguy/ >>84957800

>>84958264
name me ONE (1) thing she did wrong

>>84958299
Attempted to turn her planet that was crawling its way out of the dark ages into a religious shithole

>>84958299
This exactly, if you actually think she did something wrong you really need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTXN0Z6qOpQ

>>84958299
"no I'm not going to postpone the peace talk despite the fact that I could and it could save the life of Vedek Bareil"

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HeJustKeptTalkingInOneLongIncrediblyUnbrokenSentenceMovingFromTopicToTopicSoThatNooneHadAChanceToInterruptItWasReallyQuiteHypnotic

>>84958395
Star Trek music videos are always kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JC7fyl7SzI

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>that episode where Troi got raped by an alien energy being, and it birthed itself through her with a full pregnancy

>>84958425
>wanting to save the most boring character in all of star trek
Kai Winn was right for ridding us of Bareil.
>>84958358
desu, the Bajorans were very good in doing that themselves.

>>84940255
I think the implication is that the Q have hit their absolute maximum level of advancement and achievement, but the Q see in humans a race that at their max could outdo even the Q.

Q tests Picard in the final episode to try to prove that theory.

>>84943188
>>84950770

There are actually 3 Defiants, one got destroyed in the dominion war and they renamed a new Ship to defiant

and another got destroyed defending Earth in First Contact, they beamed Worf off it when it blew up

>>84958561
>the most boring character in all of star trek
the most boring ? agreed that he didn't offer much except for a love interest to Kira but that doesn't mean that this wasn't just a cheap way of getting rid of him.

Was Obriens son actually his?

Keiko came back from a months long trip suddenly pregnant, seems sketchy

also why did the Keiko actress leave so much

>>84958533
and surprisingly pro life episode

>>84958950
She threatened to cheat on him more than once

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>>84958616
The all powerful Qish threat has been manipulating Earth for centuries. Like the tornado that "accidentally" escaped weather control.

>>84959042
>this is probably some sort of cuckery, and this is part of the grand scheme to make O'Brien suffer.

>>84958039
Maybe that's a personal flaw.

Is that better

Didn't they get to warp 1000 and reach the edge of the universe in 30 seconds in one episode?

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MIIIIIIIIIIIIILES.

My dates coming over tonight. You have to be a good boy and go take Molly over to her friends house while Im busy.

Is that understood?

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>>84958533
That lightsperm tho

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>>84959226

>>84958533
And they explicitly say her pussy was still pristine even after the birth.

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>>84959564
I'd eat that pussy like a fresh plate of gagh

>>84955308
Is this a joke I'm not getting? Because their cells literally break down without it, there was just one Jem'Hadar that didn't need it because:

>Remarkable. Your body is producing the exact amount of ketracel-white you need to survive. But I can't find where it's coming from. There don't appear to be any glands or cell clusters producing the enzyme
- Hyppocratic Oath

And the confirmation that it isn't just an addition in The Abandoned:
>His blood chemistry shows he's missing a key isogenic enzyme. Without large quantities of it his circulatory system would simply shut down.

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>>84957654
Name wa' (ONE) thing Gowron did wrong, petaQ

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>>84958453

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what the FUCK was his problem

>>84958669
The Defiant wasn't destroyed in First Contact, it had sustained heavy damage but was salvageable.

>>84958395
Adami is a pretty tragic character to be honest, she dedicated her life to The Prophets but came to resent them as she realised they didn't give a single shit about Bajor and she was targeted for emotional manipulation by possibly the most Machiavellian character in the Star Trek universe.

>>84948049
Good tea, nice house

>>84958395
I've been aware of who James Blunt is but I think this is the first time I've heard one of his songs, he's pretty good, he sounds like Richard O'Brien doing Bowie B-tracks.

>>84959463
Even in the future Asian women are complete cunts.