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>>84919463

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>>84919463
he'd put on the mask

>>84919463
Reverse the neutrino flow and polarise the phaser banks

He'd make a speech at Tuvok and Neelixes funerals about how they made the ultimate sacrifice and move on, but he wouldn't have allowed Tuvix to serve as a member of the crew until he retook all the Starfleet training and exams.

And when he got home, he would have handed him over to Starfleet Medical for testing, as Guinan wouldn't have been there to make the slavery analogy.

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>>84919463
The real question you should be asking is how would they have dealt with Tuvix?

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>>84920456
>But Captain, we can't send that much energy into those systems with compromising half the EPS relays on the ship!
>Unless........we re-rerouted the warp power transfer conduits to accommodate the higher energy output and reconfigure the backup conduits an an auxiliary output!
>Alright Captain, I think we can do it!

Find a way to swap his mind with Wesley and then sacrifice him.
win win

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How would Picard's crew have handled it?

>>84920541
They'd tell him he's either getting back in the fucking transporter or paying double the rent and replicator fees as he has maliciously caused them to lose profit by merging with another entity (Ferengi Trade Bylaws subsection 814, paragraph 9)

>>84920509
A TNG episode would follow the first part until Tuvix's body starts to deteriorate and Picard convinces him to let him split himself back to the originals because he's gonna die anyway.

>>84920601
You have 30 minutes

How would Archer have handled it?

>>84920883
Worf and Barclay would merge, creating Borf

>>84920601
If it was the earlier seasons he'd clap his hands and go "OW!"

>>84922017
>the ultimate fusion between repressed violence and repressed sexual fantasies.
My gott, Troi is in trouble

This all just reminds me of how annoying Chakotay was. So Native Americans having already been fairly intermixed into the American population by today, will somehow retain a bloodline that far into the future that's worth a giant face tattoo that current tribes don't even use.

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>>84923287
>So Native Americans having already been fairly intermixed into the American population
They still literally live on reservations

>will somehow retain a bloodline that far into the future that's worth a giant face tattoo that current tribes don't even use
Chakotay's dad tracked down the aliens that taught Native Americans their religion and they gave him the tattoo, Chakotay copied it to honour his dad and the aliens, presumably later in life as he didn't care when he was a teenager in the flashback we see.

Seriously fuck you for making me defend Voyager.

He'd find a way to recreate the Riker duplicate incident.

I want Will Riker to fuck Tom Riker

>>84924150
Tom Riker was returned to the Federation with brain damage on Stardate 48741.2 and died on Stardate 48753.1. Cardassian doctors claimed it was a result of Tuvan syndrome, but there was no evidence of this, nor any obvious signs of mistreatment by our Cardassian asslies. President Jaresh Inyo was quoted as saying "his death will not go unchallenged" but his office has declined to comment on what form this challenge will take.

How would Sisko have handled Tuvix?

>>84919463
>How would Picard have handled it?
full spread of torpedos.

>>84924503
He. Would have made. A dramatic. Disjointed. And insane. Speech about Tuvix's situation. Then blown up something in the Defiant.

>>84919463
He'd have a funeral for the lost crew members then transfer him to a different ship.

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so let me get this straight:
These men are flying the best ship Earth can make, staffed with the best professionals they could find.
But they're too impatient to spend one week to study a planet and instead land on it as soon as they find out it has breathable air?
Did Ridley Scott make this?

>>84924601
i honestly enjoyed those so much, they sounded just like Kirk's but this time they weren't surface level and had actual in-universe purpose and context rather than being a central theme or focus in an episode

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>>84924503
He'd play him

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Oh don't mind us
just the best crew in the entire trek franchise coming through for another comfy episode

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>>84924883

>>84921071
fuuuck
i can picture it already
"Jean-Luc, you better come see this!"
"According to the latest biomolecular lateral polarity reversed phase scan blah blah of our new guest, his cells are blah blah deteriorating"
"...He's dying"
*cue dramatic music*
*fade to black before second act*

>>84924928
why did that guy do that?

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>>84924883
It's all fine and dandy but i don't get why they had to do the whole ascension thing with sisko, it felt inconclusive and messy, i think they should have opted out for him talking to his mom/prophet one last time and then it fast forwards to him being old with that house on Bajor he planned to build, reading Jake's book about the Wormhole ayliens and Cassidy somewhere in the background messing up dinner or something

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>>84924883
I wonder if WB flipped the fuck out over their Ocean's Eleven ripoff episode as badly as MGM did over their James Bond ripoff episode

Top tier comfy. but an inferior Trek Casino episode to The Royale. DS9 is the best though, obviously.

>>84919463
He would have ultimately decided that Tuvix had a right to live, then some deus ex machina beyond Picard's control would have happened and separated them back into Tuvok and Neelix so status quo would be maintained while leaving Picard with a clean conscience.

>>84925084
I love the Royale

>>84925084
>>84925347
>People fucking hate this episode
I don't get it

>>84925389
It was pretty campy

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>>84925347
>>84925389
I think some people are just sourpusses and can't have fun

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>>84925389
no fun. technobabble bridge episodes ONLY

>>84921895
Archer would have accidentally killed Tuvix and been left with nothing because he was a foolish jackass

>>84922255

>implying she wasn't asking for it

>>84920883
She REALLY did commit murder there. Not the philosophical question the writers aimed for.

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"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

>>84919463
Continue research into recovering Neelix and Tuvok without killing this new lifeform, but meanwhile assign Tuvix to most appropriate position on ship to help him get home.

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Why did Riker get so thicc

>>84924601
I read that in his voice without even thinking about it.

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>>84926278
most people would be far fatter than him if they had a replicator in their room, able to generate any food instantly

>>84926269
69
Nice.

>>84919463
Why do people think it was wrong to get rid of Tuvix? He was clearly living at the expensive of two other people's lives. If he were a good person, he would realize that his life would be the death of two others and would have come to the conclusion of sacrificing himself was the only logical choice per his Vulkan half.

>>84926431
Argh. The TNG Enterprise looks so fucking comfy.

>>84926478
Why don't Vulcans all kill themselves and donate their organs to people who desperately need them?

>>84924740
>staffed with the best professionals they could find

There was no Starfleet or Academy. Earth just hired people off the street with no training or experience.

>>84924150
I hate degenerate, in-your-face faggots so fucking much. Do hurry up and kill yourselves, you absolute wastes of human flesh.

>>84924801
At first glance, I thought that said, "*******".

>>84926626
>not being a waste of human flesh
REEEEE

>>84926561
That's a false parallel and you know it.
It's more the equivalent of a Vulcan ripping out the organs of two living beings simply so he/she can live.

>>84925389
>holodeck episodes worst episodes

>>84926700
But Tuvix had no responsibility in their death.
He didn't even exist before their death.

He literally did nothing wrong.

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>>84924883
why did sisko give that much of a fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puBrFifxSSM

If Tuvix was made from two people (one chubby and one skinny) and one orchid, why wasn't he 250+ lbs at least?

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>>84926827
>You can't rape a hologram
>[quizzical face intensifies]

>>84926754
He action of continuing to live causes their deaths to be permanent. Like I said, he existed at the expense of the death of others. He may not have been the ones to kill them, but continuing to live kept them dead and was a selfish act on his part.

>>84926754
but one wrong can make two rights, it's just utilitarianism. It's not justice but it is Good

>>84927026
They already died.

Let's say a mother dies at childbirth but it's later revealed you can use some necromantic ritual to resurrect her by sacrificing the child.
Is it selfish if the child wants to go on living?

>>84926669
>censoring yourself
Get the fuck out of here nigger.

>>84927099
Another false parallel. If one person spontaneously existed with no prior history or family, coming from the accidents of two people who did have jobs, lives, and loved ones, it would be insane for them to think their own existence was even natural. For them to completely disregard the two who's lives were sacrificed in their creation would be terrible.

>>84927181
That's just naturalistic fallacy.

>>84919463

Sedated the freak till geordi or data fixed it.

Fontaine vs Moriarty vs EMH

no personal emitters
safety protocols disengaged

who would win?

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You have five minutes to post cute pictures of Alexander Siddig or else I'm taking this thread and everyone in it past Warp 10.

>>84927275
No, that's the argument from nature fallacy

>>84927388
What's the terrain, and do they all know this is a deathmatch going into it?

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>>84919463
so if worf and guinan had combined?
ultimately he would accept it and replace those posts, let wornan choose their path(but since its a tvshow he would split them since new cast members would be a pain to introduce)

janeway did the right thing since she needed every able bodied crew member in the predicament they were in tho.

picard could replace those crewman posts, janeway couldnot.

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>>84927435
Terrorists aren't cute. Have you watched this yet, fayyyg?

>>84919463
the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, now get into that teleporter faggot

>>84927506
final destination, yes

>>84927678
>final destination
So they're on a 747?

I'd bet on the EMH as he's the only one likely to know how to decompress the cabin and survive.

>>84927740
What does an Hologram care about air?

>>84927826
They're simulated humans, and if "safety protocols disengaged" as the original post said then they're on a holodeck and the computer will apply real-world rules to them, like no air means you die.

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>>84927465
>>84927275
>>84927181
>>84927099
>>84927026
>>84926754
>>84926700
>>84926561

Let's all just say what we really mean here.

Tuvix was really ugly and not an interesting character, and we wanted our friends Neelix and Tuvok back.

>>84927892
safety protocols disengaged means that humans in the holodeck won't be protected against potentially dangerous projections. It doesn't make holograms require air to breat.

>>84928030
Then it means nothing, they're all immortal and can't harm each other in any way. Great question, bro.

>>84927167
Oh! You said a bad word.

>>84928067
>Then it means nothing,
You can't mention holograms and not include it in a Trek thread.

>>84920883
>this is murder!
if crew members dying as a result of the captain's orders constitutes murder then literally every captain of every ship in starfleet ever is a murderer

>>84928172
I don't remember Picard ever ordering to kill an innocent man against his will.

They could've given some goodbye cake or something. You can't just say go fuck yourself
we all hate you and execute a guy.

>>84927909
losing 1 crew member and getting 2 back is an easy choice

>>84928271
do you believe Picard never ordered any crew member to do something that directly resulted in their death?

>>84928311
They would've given him a last meal but they didn't have their cook back yet.

>>84928128
Barclay threads are the lowest possible quality Star Trek threads, and anyone who participates in them should be barred from service.

>>84928354
Knowingly and directly against their will?
Yes.

>>84928356
I'd rather die hungry than eat anything from that fucking trash panda.

>>84926258
And Captain Archer committed genocide on the basis of an assumption.

>>84919463
Are you implying Picard's crew of competent individuals would have let it get that far?

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>ywn have a qt trill gf with a century's worth of sexual knowledge
why even live

>>84924503
He would have rewound time with his space worm powers.

>>84928030
Why is that even an option any way?

>>84928479
>She remember all the stuff that made her dick hard

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Most important of all, what would Admiral Adama have done?

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>>84928311
>Tuvix, before we transporter you to death, we'd like you to bake a cake for yourself to commiserate us murdering you
>... That does seem a bit heartless actually, I could replicate you some synthetic sythcrose molecules shaped like a cake if you prefer?

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How does Picard know the Vulcan nerve pinch and how is he strong enough to be able for it to actually knock a Vulcan out

>>84928528
The same reason you can manually fuck up your computer if you want to by deleting necessary shit even though you know you shouldn't

>>84928528
Not so much an option.
It's more like telling your car to cut its brake lines and the car is capable enough to do it for you.

>>84928393
>against their will
Weasel. People wouldn't obey the orders if they didn't want to.

>>84928566
Screamed in abject shock looking at an alien that isn't a robot and then blast it?

>>84928566
Season 1-2 Adama or season 4 Adama?

>>84928566
Rip off Tuvix' head mask and reveal he's a Cylon.
And then he was a Cylon.
And then Cylon were angels.

>>84919463
Picard absolutely would have let him live, but the situation would have ended up with them splitting up any way for whatever plot reason.

It was kind of gutsy if the Voyager writers not to give Janeway an easy way out, but I don't know if having her commit literal murder on an innocent man was worth that.

>>84928630
>>84928640

kek

>>84928635

That's really the question, isn't it.

>>84928528
So you can perform autistically realistic simulations of scientific phenomena you want to study under semi-controlled situations.

>>84920883

>Tuvoks intelligence and knowledge of voyagers tactical systems
>Neelixs extreme fear of death

Why didn't he just hack into the ships computer and threaten to overload the warp core until he could escape?

>>84928802
He also had Tuvok's inexplicable trust in Janeway.
So he probably thought she wouldn't murder a guy.

>>84928566
>"What the frack is a 'teleporter'?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS6m6NM_Md0

If you disable safety practicals and tell the holodeck to run a simulation of a supernova would it destroy the ship?

>>84928897
Unable to comply.
Requested simulation exceeds available power.

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On a scale of 10 to 10, how autistic was he?

>>84928577
He knows it because he mind-melded with Sarek a few seasons earlier, and I don't recall it ever being mentioned it required physical strength to achieve.

>>84929011
You're just jelly of his holo waifu.

Is it worth watching any series from the pilot?
We always just watched random eps on tv

>>84928983
Computer run a simulation of borg invasion of the ship.
Disable safety protocols
Lock out further commands authorization Barkley Alpha Beta Zeta

>>84929011
He let his position go to his head. Was he really the best engineer in star fleet at the time?

>>84929091
That would recreate the ship in the holodeck being overrun by Borg.
They can't leave the holodeck.

>>84929037
>confuse fiction waifu with real waifu
>assume they're the same
>treat her like you've known her for years
>she gets creeped out beyond belief
>gets the fuck out of there
>I'm the victim though

How did this her past the rough draft?

>>84929091
Anyone with a security clearance greater than Barclay could override his commands, that's why Data posed as Picard when he took control of the Enterprise in Brothers.

>>84928862
>>84928862
wow it's like he doesn't know janeway at all

>>84929129

Chief engineer of the Federation flagship is pretty important.

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>>84929087
DS9 is the only one that has a real continuous storyline but you won't appreciate it unless you know a lot of the worldbuilding that was done in TNG.

>>84929142
If someone was injected with holo borg nano probes and sat in the holodeck would they become a borg? We saw with the holo lungs that holographicas can interact with a body

>>84929334
Then the nanoprobes would vanish as soon as the "Borg" leaves the holodeck.

>>84929334
I doubt Federation replicators have the pattern for Borg Nanorpobes. And those lungs were simulated, not replicated.

>>84929418
If the holo probes already converted someones mind, how fucked up would they be?

>>84929142
Think anyone ran a simulation like that so they could masturbate to all their co-workers getting converted?

>>84929334
>>84929418
>>84929142
Holo-logic always leads to a dead end. There's so many holes and possibilities with the Holodeck, it's impossible to talk about.

It went too far when it can conjure something that can outsmart Data.

>>84925466
Why don't I remember this episode at all? I must have blocked it from memory

>>84929749
ya it was a pretty forgettable episode unless you like Quark tho

>>84929560
>All the moral posturing in the Moriarty episodes gets tossed out the window when Troi crashes the D, obliterating everyone's saved holodeck data

Troi did nothing wrong.

>>84926535
That's what happens when you cover everything in velour and make walls look like giant tan pleather couch cushions

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Just a reminder that Archer is best captain.

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>>84926561
Because the danger of compassion as a virtue in excess is first year political theory pleb tier shit that everyone should understand or be mocked if they don't.

>>84929819

It was all saved to the cloud.

>>84930577
That would mean there's more the one version of the Moriarty program, causing an exponential memory storage issue due to the fact that a cloud based data system automatically deletes and updates its data to reaffirm it on a regular basis.

>>84928577
That's not a Vulcan, you stupid queer.

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>>84929819
>obliterating everyone's saved holodeck data
Shit, no wonder Barclay didn't get over it after he left the Enterprise.

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BEAM ME UP SCOTTY

http://www.mirror.co.uk/science/scientists-just-teleported-first-ever-10780394


WE TELEPORTIN NOW

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>>84932277
What the hell did you just frikkin’ say about me, you little chimp? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Starfleet Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on the Borg, and I have over 300 confirmed executions of General Order 24. I am trained in ship-to-ship warfare and I’m the top tactical officer in all of Starfleet. You are nothing to me but just another redshirt. I will wipe you the hell out with attack patterns the likes of which has never been seen before in this quadrant, mark my goddamn words. You think you can get away with saying that stuff to me over subspace? Think again. As we speak I am contacting section 31 and your subspace signature is being traced right now so you better prepare for the ion storm, maggot. The ion storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re goddamn dead, ensign. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with self-sealing stem bolts. Not only am I extensively trained in zero-G combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Starfleet and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable existence off the face of the galaxy, you little chimp. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your goddamn tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will blast fury all over you and you will drown in it. You are dead, ensign. Dismissed

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>>84932378
Eugenics wars imminent

https://qz.com/979007/rss-hindu-nationalists-are-trying-to-create-designer-babies-that-are-fair-strong-and-smart/

First season of TNG until 5am ET. Get in here trekfaggots.

https://www.rabb.it/Jabberinjay

>>84921071
Yup. There wouldn't be any grey area in TNG episode concerning any bridge officer moral judgement.

I'm like 99% judging by Janeway actions she was definitely a section 31 operative and had orders that involved Tuvok as well. Tuvok was probably a Romulan double agent workin for section 31 thus the gap in star fleet career.

>>84932470
Fucking time traveling Roddenberry

>>84932318
>Except Moraity program was put on a separate data cube. He's still out there technically.

>>84921895
Go back to the planet to harvest as much of the plant as possible then start intentionally recombining crew members until the ultimate crew was achieved. Unfortunately, Travorthos would OD on cheese in the sweet spot and Captan Shrarcher would retire in shame

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>>84932636
Of course, how else do you explain:
>Only days before Voyager's arrival, the Cardassians were already in the Delta Quadrant.
>In each instance, the caretaker would examine the crews' DNA, and when he failed to find a genetic match he would release the vessel. But in this instance, Neelix's sensors indicated the ship vanished. Obviously, it was returned to the Alpha Quadrant. Why?
>the Cardassians were sent back to deliver strategic information regarding the Delta Quadrant.
>At the same time the Cardassians were meeting with the Caretaker, your Maquis vessel was infiltrated with a Starfleet agent.
>Tuvok guided the Val Jean ship to prearranged coordinates in the Badlands, where the Caretaker locked onto it. Once the Val Jean was pulled into the Delta Quadrant, Tuvok could have secretly transmitted final instructions to the Caretaker. A short time later, Captain Janeway guided Voyager to the same coordinates and was also pulled into the Delta Quadrant. All of these events took place within a matter of days.
>So why did the Captain destroy the array?
>She intended to remain in the Delta Quadrant all along. If the Array had remained intact, the Maquis and all the others would have insisted on using it to return home.
>The Captain ordered Commander Tuvok to destroy the array. He fired two tricobalt devices. Are those weapons normally carried on Federation Starships? Of course not
>Yet they were part of Voyager's arsenal. Why?
>Because either phasers nor torpedoes are capable of creating a tear in subspace. A tricobalt device is. As Tuvok detonated the device, a cloaked ship locked on to one of the array's tetryon reactors and pushed it through the tear into subspace, protecting it from the blast and hiding it from Voyager's sensors. But the Captain and Tuvok knew exactly where it was going. Once Voyager left the area, the reactor was retrieved and began a similar journey, carried by a series of vessels until it was finally delivered to Mister Tash.

>>84923287
Indians won't exist in the USA at all by the time Trek happens. We're slowly wiping them completely out which is good since they're inferior. Shame the Spanish didn't do the same with the Mestizo populations in South and Central America. Fucking Spaniards and Portuguese always halfassing things.

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>>84933046
*relocates them to Amerind*
Nothin' personal kid

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>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>aaaaHHHHH JEAN LUC WE CAN'T JUST LET THEM DIE JEAN LUC YOU HAVE TO LET ME HELP THEM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHH JEAN LUC I TOOK AN OATH NEVER TO HARM MY PATIENTS JEAN LUC

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

What the fuck was her problem?

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>>84924928
>there will never be HD DS9

>>84932457
Fuck off, faggot. That was Tim Russ, but it wasn't a Vulcan, you stupid. queer. you.

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>>84933487
That shit gets on my damn nerves too.

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I am new to star trek, I am 5 episodes in on the original series.

Why the fuck does every episode involve some sort of psychic power, use of disguise and illusion, or feature some sort of invasive character altering predicament?

I hope it they mix it up more as it goes on, I don't mind the cheesyness but the stories seem really uninspired. The first pilot was great though.

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>be Geordi Laforge
>be autistic as fuck
>watching educational holodeck program
>start falling in love with the hologram engineer in the program
>real version of that engineer comes aboard your ship

>autism goes into overdrive

>>84933377
Picard got her husband killed by giving bad orders

She devoted her whole life to tormenting Picard after that by being an insufferable cunt and making him raise her autistic son

Crusher is more devious than a Romulan

>>84933732
Roddenberry really liked those concepts, overused a lot in the first season. Gets used much less as the series goes on.

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>>84933764
>be LeVar Burton
>have a romantic episode
>be so autistic irl there is no chemistry so the whole episode comes off as awkward
wew

How would Kirk have handled the Tuvix situation?

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>>84934087
[overacting noises]

>>84934087
karate chopped him back into two

>>84922017
> not Barf
one jerb

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>>84932910
Underrated post deserves a reply.

Tuvix was my second favorite character, right after pic related.

>>84928326
>>84933487
How can there be so many nerd billionaires and not one of them can finance this? So maybe you don't get the same 5% return from a mutual fund. You'll still make your money back eventually.

A DS9 remaster is not a losing venture, it's just not as profitable as other stuff.

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>>84933764
>>84933912
How else could he be so comfortable in that shuttle? Autists like their small spaces.

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>>84934821
TNG remasters sales were disappointing, the widespread move to streaming services means there is little profit in this venture because less and less people would bother to buy the expensive Blu-rays.

>>84934923
>>84934821
Netflix has made other shows HD for streaming though

why not DS9 and VOY

>>84935034
They have to go back to the original 35mm film negatives and remake the show piece by piece like they did for TOS and TNG. It's a long and expensive process for actual HD not just stretching the original video and using some computer program to make it look less fuzzy.

>>84934899
Also explains why he always liked Data

>>84924801
Those jerseys are just itching for a photoshop.

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>ywn recline in your quarters and watch little women play the fuck harp for you

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>>84936622
>tfw not programmed in multiple techniques

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>>84936846
More lieutenant for your latinum

Did any of the Voyager crew ever get indicted for murder? They should have

>>84937250
All the Maquis crewmen and officers were summarily tried and sentenced to a penal colony upon return to Earth.

>>84919463
he deserved to die

>>84927275

Claiming that something is a naturalistic fallacy IS a naturalistic fallacy.

>>84937250
I'm sure they all got promoted for coming back with future tech.

Didnt Janeway get promoted to Admiral in Nemesis or some garbage?