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Who sorcerer worked on Starship Troopers?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGzJ05OWgI

How the FUCK did this do it? How did they generate full CGI aliens en mass and individually that look so fucking good and life like? Even two whole godamn decades later this movie's CGI is crisp and believable. Half the modern day CGI is just vomit of motion blur and uncanny colors that are immediately identifiable.
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It was a documentary of events on the inner concave earth you fucking retard.
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>>84917616
The creatures are simple insectoids so I guess it's kinda easier that way.
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>>84917616
It's brightly lit and the objects are totally alien so we have no basis on what they "should" move and look like
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>>84917616
the basic bugs actually don´t look that much like normal bugs so that helps. you brain isn´t constantly trying to compare it to real life bugs which would make you realize all the unrealistic things about them otherwise.
they also used a lot of puppets for close ups
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1. They used '90s cg for the background creatures and cutting-edge computer-tracked stop motion for the foreground creatures.
2. Jost Vacano is one of the best directors of photography of all time.
3. Phil Tippet knows how to animate a puppet.
4. Paul Verhoeven knows how to hide flaws, maximise what he has, and give you a good time.

Basically the film is a perfect storm of incredibly talented people on top of their game.
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>>84918004
>1. They used '90s cg for the background creatures and cutting-edge computer-tracked stop motion for the foreground creatures.

source?
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For the animation they had small real models and were animated by hand giving the creatures a sense of real weight while moving unlike in avatar where they seems to float even on ground. Today ST would use a procedural algo to fill the screen with a fixed set of random movements. The bugs in ST really seems to interact with the environment winch is amazing but also very time consuming and expensive. As for looks, yeah incets are easier to render. All in all an amazing acomplisment we probably never see again.
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>>84918148
Sorru for bad English.. also this:
>>84918004
>>84917966
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>>84917616
>that moment where they fall back faced with the overwhelming numbers of the bugs and the variation of the main theme starts playing
I don't care what anyone say, starship troopers is war kino
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>>84918730
I think it's the best war film of all time, honestly.
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>>84918004
>>84918730
>>84918730
Is without a doubt an amazing movie.
Only plebs disagree.
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>>84918932

God I fucking love those models, beautiful design.
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>>84918932
>best war film of all time
Eh I'm a huge fan but that is pushing it.

I would absolutely say it is the best sci-fi war film of all time.
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>>84918932
agree. i will participate in every starship troopers thread on tv. although i do find the pilot scenes with carmen a little bland.

favorite quote?
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>>84917616
why do they have so much ammunition in those tiny clips?
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>>84919473
"Come on you apes, you want to live forever?!"
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>>84919473
I still ironically tell my fellow co-workers and friends when we have a fuckload of work or daunting task

>REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING
>AND YOU WILL MAKE IT BACK ALIVE
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>>84919507
Caseless ammo?
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>>84918730
>>84918932
>>84919110
The biggest problem with the movie is that it shits all over what it was inspired by/took its name from.

Great movie, but a real Starship Troopers movie would be great.
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>>84919599
you probably say that four times a week and people were sick of it two years ago
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>>84919623
is that really how it works? I thought caseless was no smaller than regular ammo
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>>84918932
it looks so great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rx8_vjbXX4
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>>84919623
nigger they show cases being ejected
just dont think about it
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>>84919635
I wouldnt say it "shits" on it - it just took a vastly different approach.
Now, a modern day reboot would probably shit on it.
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>>84919704
my biggest problem is that the MI drop using ships instead of out of a cannon which would have been awesome
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>>84919507
You're a fan of the movie so I am not going to go full /k/ autism on you but in the future. Unless you are watching a WWII film. Every single bullet being used on screen is being held in a magazine.

If you want to look like a complete novice to gun owners the easiest way to to say clip.
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>>84919635
I remember reading about that. I don't have the article bookmarked though.

Apparently it was originally written as a Sci. Fi. war movie that mocked fascism with giant alien bugs with Starship Troopers as a pretty heavy influence. Only later on were the rights actually acquired and the movie took on the name. That's off the top of my head, it may have occurred a bit differently
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>>84919704
I think shits on the original SST because of the "lol Nazis" approach.
The entire thing a propaganda piece, in universe.
It's literally fascist propaganda with the attack on Buenos Aires being a false flag.


The book is entirely different in its themes.
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>>84919783
yeah, I know, it's just that I dont really like the word 'magazine' it's too girly.
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>>84919800
>The book is entirely different in its themes.
No, it's really not. Have you read it? The book is still satire. Granted, it's someone less comical satire, but it's still satire.
Besides, they don't even come anywhere close to "lol nazis"
there are some allusions to the false flag, the whole voting thing - but generally people still seem happy on earth. You know if it was made today there would be some scene where some MI MPs are beating up a muslim or something, which the main character feels bad about as he walks through the streets.
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>>84919863
>the word 'magazine' it's too girly
Well obviously. Guns are women, women you make love to when you utilize them in brutal combat. Haven't you ever seen Full Metal Jacket?
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>>84919507
they leak a little air out of the bullets so they can be compressed
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>>84919473
GOD DAMN BUGS WHACKED US JOHNNY
>>84919473
The part where Carmen flies the little shuttle out of the station is one of my fav parts. I also love the cheeseball bridge flirting and the campy girl scout mentor relationship with the lady captain amid horrifying death and destruction. Johnny's side of the film is obviously better though.
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>>84919573
t. patrician
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>>84919880
The book is absolutely NOT satire.
It's written by a WW2 Naval officer in 1959.

It's a straightfaced look into a world where WWII would never happen again. The would is hegemonically peaceful.

People get their panties in a knot about the whole citizen thing because they think that non-citizens are inferior to citizens. The book repeats again and again that's not the case. A citizen is person who votes. That's it. No extra shit.
Modern people got it all mixed up with illegal immigrants and second class people.
But it's just about voting.
And Heinlein argues that only the people willing to fight and die in a war should be able to start one.
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>>84919473
>welcome to the roughnecks
>Rico's Roughnecks!
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>>84919473
>favorite quote?
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>>84919473
Starship Troopers is too fucking quotable
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>>84920030
>The would is hegemonically peaceful.
Except for the perpetual war against bugs, but you know.
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>>84920079
>that clown suit
which server was this made for?
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>>84920030

He was just a Commie poster. Commies hate Starship Troopers
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>>84917616
It still baffles me. And I'm not really even a big fan of the movie. But when I see those creatures I'm amazed at how they did it.
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>>84920112
terra and most of its colonies are still peaceful senpai
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>>84920030
>But it's just about voting.
Well that is kind what the whole immigration mess is about today. People are pissed that illegals entered their countries or are migrating en mass. Them voting while technically not supposed to be able means people can control the government that have no right to do so.

When you're voting you're exercising political authority. You're using force and force my friends is violence. The supreme authority which all other authority is derived.
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>>84920172
Except for the war, but you know.
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>>84917616
https://youtu.be/5LNnOTngoF0

>This was CGI 20 years ago.
What the hell happened?
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>>84917616
The best part of this movie was seeing Casper's wiener .
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>>84918004
And it was shot on film
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>>84919473
MI does the dying, Fleet just does the flying
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>>84920112
I'm talking about Earth.
It's a very nice place.
The fact that Rico is a Philipino and we don't even find out till the end is Heinlein's statement about the status of Earth. It's all one big culture now. Even the Soviets are playing along

The Bug War is a allegory for old style leadership.
With Heinlein's Earth, the people who fight are the people doing the leading. They are one in the same.
The Bugs are like how shit was in WW2. The real leadership is buried deep inside their nations.
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>>84920191
>Them voting while technically not supposed to be
5 confirmed cases of voting fraud, one of them voted for Trump twice.
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>>84920212
the bottom line
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>>84920252
>It's a very nice place.
Except for the perpetual war, but you know.
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>>84917616
insects are among the easiest creatures to render realistically.

They got a smooth surface exterior and move rather robotic by nature.

Just look at bug monsters in fantasy RPG video-games, they usually look very realistic.
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>>84920253
>confirmed
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>>84920253
Lol
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>>84920300
The Bug War isn't perpetual in the books and the quality of life on Earth is unchanged.
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>*Klendathu Drop starts playing*
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>>84920252
My favorite thing about the book is their jargon.

"On the bounce"
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>>84920253
>5 confirmed cases of voting fraud
>33 million illegals
>mostly concentrated in deep blue states like CA
>one Presidential candidate is promising to deport all of them the other is promising to make them full citizens
>these states do not require the voters to prove citizenship
>these states are not flat out refusing to turn over their voting information claiming that President Trump looking into voter fraud in their states is a witch hunt while they have accused him of "hacking" the election for 7 straight months
>only 5 cases reported!

So are you a liberal, a troll, or just that fucking retarded?
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>>84920313
As opposed to "please be real" voting fraud? Yeah, confirmed is important.
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Starship Troopers was The Thing of scifi war movies in that it was perfect in every single way while being different from the source material.
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>>84919295

Yep. Some of my favorite sci-fi starship designs.

The movie sits all over the book though. I'll admit, the book was a bit of a chore to get through. Hienlen's "gee golly" 50's dialogue did not jive well trying to read it in 2017.
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>>84920350
I love the music they use to signal boarding to their ships.
It makes perfect sense. A snippet of music will grab your attention a lot faster than a voice on the PA saying a name.
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>>84920351
Present evidence of the 32,999,995 other instances of voting fraud. I can wait.
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>>84920348
Among the top 10 best war movie scores in my opinion.
Basil Poledouris is a greek god.
https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
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>>84920253
Well it won't be a problem since Trump is working on getting voter ID laws passed.
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Quick post your face when this plays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk
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So to be an air marshal you had to go through both mobile infantry and fleet

There can't be that many people with that skillset, marshals must get a lot of second chances
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>>84920415
Sure thing. As soon as your states turn over their voting information so we can cross reference names to social security numbers.

Trump is literally saying he wants to investigate voter fraud in the 2016 election and all the blue states are shitting and bed and refusing to give up their information.

If the election truly was "hacked" by the Russians. Why wouldn't the blue states be eager to turn over the relevant information to prove IT'S HER TURN!
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>>84920401
I enjoyed the audiobook of it. With a 50s style accent, it works well.

Though, yeah, while the opening scene is action packed, the rest of the book is Heinlein talking about this fantasy world and how its military is governed
Even when they're on Planet P for their brain bug raid, there's a shit ton of exposition about the grid network they use to distribute the squads and what Rico's position in the CoC is in that network
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>>84920449
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>>84917616
literally looks just as good as anything made today. and thousands of times better than PJs king kong
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>>84920440
>it won't be a problem
5 instaces of voting fraud is hardly what I'd call a problem.
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I have never encountered a single person who hates this movie

Is it a perfect movie?
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>>84920463
All militaries are highly flexible by nature; the ones that aren't break easily.
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>>84920500
The CGI in that movie was overall really good.
It was that fucking brontosaurus run scene that was total shit
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This shit glorifies war too much to be enjoyable
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>>84920519
>law is a matter of numbers
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>>84920474
>As soon as your states turn over their voting information so we can cross reference names to social security numbers.
Here's a thought: maybe come up with a realistic number instead of rounding it up to 33 million. And check the red states too, one of the 5 confirmed instaces was a Trump voter after all.
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>>84920558
I hope you're posting from Zegema you pussy.
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>>84920474
I live in Nevada and on the radio the hosts were bragging about the governor's refusal to hand over that data.
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>>84920449
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>>84920558
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>>84920558
ST is a parody of the glorification of war
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>>84920569
>dude 33 million illegal mexicans voted lmao
>proof?
>lmao doest matter law is law
The absolute state of /pol/shit political discourse.
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>>84920615
Zegema Beach baby!
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>often have multiple tabs of 4chan open
>come back to this thread
>have to think for a moment before I realize what board I'm on
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>>84920558
Good thing you can't vote Jodie
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>>84920661
one illegal is too many. they all have to go back.
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>>84920608
>look 33 million is a made up number
Where is the source for your 5?

>b-but one was a drumf fraud!
So you're saying only 80% of Hillary's votes were fraudulent.
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>>84920449
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>>84920657
it was neat seeing those suits in Firefly
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>>84920558
>killing bugs is bad
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>>84920721
They were also in an episode of Power Rangers
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>>84920782
i'm choosing to believe power rangers and ST are part of the same universe
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>>84920558
It glorifies war ironically.
Like every veteran we see has multiple limbs missing.
And in the end, a literal SS officer rolls up.

The message is to think "Gee, this kinda stinks if I'm not Johnny Rico"
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>>84920711
>Where is the source for your 5?
Literal proof of voting fraud. As in, people getting caught, not long winded posts about how OBVIOUSLY 33 million illegals willingly participated un voting fraud.

>le quip
Whoa, I thought numbers didn't matter? Law is law, faggot.
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>>84920816
Power Rangers really fucked up then
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>stronk soldier guuuurlz

shit
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>>84920863
>Literal proof of voting fraud
Yeah again. Where is it? You keep saying it is only 5. Where is your proof of this claim? Common sense says it should be many thousands of times higher yet you want me to just shrug my shoulders and believe your bullshit quote.
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>>84920885
>not being attracted to hot women who can also handle a rifle
absolute pleb
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>>84920885
Dizzy would rip your head off and shit down your neck
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>>84920885
Spend some time in the 40k threads on /tg/

When your expected lifespan once out of basic training is about 3 months and your enemy is giant alien monsters, gender stops mattering so much
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>>84920915
Maybe if she were still alive
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>>84920957
>-3 strength
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>>84920957
>How to start an absolute shit storm in a 40k thread
female space marines
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>>84920978
They have laser pens as weapons. Strength is irrelevant
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>>84920449
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>>84921005
Carrying supplies.
Dragging a comrade back to safety
Climbing/evading

Basic soldiering requires lots of strength, even if you discount the use of a weapon.
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>>84920957
>tfw no qt guard gf
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>>84921005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta6MQNz9e-0

Ignore the bullshit title of the video. Strength and stamina are some of the most important aspects of foot sloggers. Being able to carry your kit for 20 miles a day is more important then being able to pull a trigger. A child can pull a trigger.
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>>84921106
did someone say die for the emperor or die trying ?
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>>84921186
>implying child soldiers aren't the most elite fighting unit there is
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>>84920957
What? Are you dumb? If the death rate is that high the birth rate has got to be constantly higher which means the women will be having 8+ babies each at least. There would be medals made for ladies with 10+ children and awards and bonuses etc just like we have seen in the past. Female military would just be a glorified breeding program. Sensibility doesnt just fly out the window because people are dying.
Fuck you, do a little bit of thinking before you type shit moron.
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Heinlein's philosophy is retarded. Most people in the military are borderline retarded, why else would they volunteer to die for Israe...get killed by bugs? Giving them control over society is a recipe for disaster.
Smart people don't do silly things like join the military, they hang back and let the retards do their fighting and dying for them. These are the people that should be calling the shots.
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dizzy best girl
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>>84919473
"Today we explore the failure of democracy"
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Colonial Marines vs Mobile Infantry?

Taking all bets!
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>>84919655

Wrong. I work with that guy and he only says it at the most oppurtune times and he always gets a big laugh.

So fuck you.
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>>84920885
Yeah this was retarded.
>single gender showers
As if that'll ever happen.
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>>84921982
Mean to say "mixed gender".
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>>84919785
>mocks fascism
>becomes a modern internet fascist manifesto

It's hard to satirize fascism when it works so effectively and looks so cool.
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>>84919473
"all is fair in love and war"
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>>84920449
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>>84922086
Fascism is all about looking cool.
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>>84921790
But they did have a democracy
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There are two reasons the bugs look so good.

1. they move right
this is because they were controlled by puppeteers, not animators.

2. they were rendering within the limits of the time
They'd already been pretty good at rendering solid surfaces for a few years. Flexible skin and sub-surface diffraction (the slight amount of light that shines through your skin) was still a way off.
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>>84923782
He's saying that (everyone gets a vote) democracy failed, that's why (everyone who serves their nation) democracy took control and made humans a galactic power.
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>>84920558
It does quite the opposite unless you are literally retarded
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>>84923831
>He's saying that (everyone gets a vote) democracy
That's not true for our democracy either.
Children, foreigners, and felons cannot vote (unless you live in California)
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>>84923886
>>>/reddit/
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>>84923886
>foreigners
If only it were true.
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>>84923981
I have no idea why leftist Americans lose their shit over requiring ID to vote.
"Socialist paradises" like the Scandinavian countries require ID. Don't they want to be more like them?

I mean, getting a library card requires an ID and no one says that's racist
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>>84919783

literally every gun owner I know just says clip no one is that autistic
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>>84923886
"Our democracy" is a republic.
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>>84924072
Republics are a democracy, retard
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>>84921612
>thinking Dizzy is a girl
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>>84919800
BA wasn't a false flag.
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>>84924033
Their reasoning behind it is some of the most blantant open racist shit I've ever heard

>minorities are too poor and stupid to get an ID it is racist to make them require it to vote!

>>84924056
So you know 2 people who are equally as retarded. It isn't some super abstract difference or easily mistakable identification between two similar things. Like dolphins or porpoises.

When is the last movie/tv show/anime/game that showed people loading naked bullets on a clip into a weapon that wasn't set in 1950 or further back?
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>the part when all the main characters "die" halfway through

i was actually pretty upset, then they revealed that they were just "injured" biggest tease in cinema to date
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>argentina
>whi-
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>>84917616
texture and contrast
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>>84924116
Unless, ya know, they're not voted in, and are...appointed.

Retard.

California is the closest thing to a democracy in the union.
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>>84920449
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>>84924164
tl;dr you're autistic, you know exactly what people mean when they say clip but prefer your nomenclature because uhhhh reasons.
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>>84924250
You're making a mistake of thinking that a direct democracy is the only form of democracy.
We have a representative democracy.
That means we vote for people to make decisions for us.
Which is still 100% a democracy
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>I''m from buenos aires and I say it was an inside job
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>>84924284
>hey man can you hand me that screw driver?
>... you mean this wrench?
>stop being autistic you know what I meant
Alright dumbass keep saying it wrong if you want to look like an idiot. You're likely the kind of person that thinks AR-15 stands for "assault rifle".
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It helps that all the bugs are either a mass of triangles or a mass of ovals with minor details here and there
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>>84924203
He's Filipino actually
He just lives in BA
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>>84920449
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dubs
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>>84924301
technically its a democratic republic
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>>84917616

Imagine what actual Americans could do these days. I guess we will never know.
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>>84921074
>>84921074
>>84921074
>Dragging a comrade back to safety
>Warhammer 40k
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>>84918730
>>84918932
>>84919110
starship troopers works on 3 levels.

>mindless shooting movie
>critique of fascism
>meta recruitment video for the federation

it's truly pure kino.
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>>84920540
> The next poster is a civilian
>>84920558
> This shit glorifies war too much to be enjoyable

it's like pottery
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>>84920661

Nobody said 33 million illegally voted, the original guy said there were 33 million who could have. It's statistically impossible that only 5 out of 33 million voted illegally.
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>>84920782
Oh damn I didn't realize they used them in Firefly. It's too bad they didn't use them in Space: Above and Beyond as it was basically Starship Troopers: the TV series. Oh wait, that show aired two years before Starship Troopers was released. Never mind.
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>>84921004
The Sisters of Battle are close enough.
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>>84924116

A republic just means any non-monarchy.
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>>84925258
You got bugs in your brains buddy
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>>84925336
Not at all.
A republic means that all government positions are voted into place by the people under them.
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>>84925430

Who fucking told you that?
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>>84925480
Who told you that a Republic was anything other than a monarchy?
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>>84925495

Civics classes. Do they not have those anymore?
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>>84925537
American Education, everyone.
Just because you don't have a King, it doesn't mean you have a Republic.
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>>84917616
the ting wit da cg
is ya got to get the lighting right

it's all about post

it's all about lighting

this is one model, en masse, under harsh desert light,

you pass them all under that light and 80% of the work is done for you.
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>>84920449
Watch it, non-humans
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>>84924773
>fascism
xdxd
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>>84925562
>The term republic originated from the writers of the Renaissance as a descriptive term for states that were not monarchies.

Republic = res publica (public matter) as in, a state owned by the public. Historically this would be contrasted with a monarch who privately owns the state or a state ruled over by a corporation like the East India Company.
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>>84920463
>Drop ship pilot lands with some troops
>Bugs swarm before you can take off
>Forced to abandon the boat
>Promoted in the field after the troops defeat the bugs
>Air Marshal guaranteed if you live 3 more years
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>>84925777
So an oligarchy is a Republic?
Cool.

"Owned by the public" is not synonymous with "Owned by a person who claims divine right".
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>>84925917

Yes, an oligarchy is a republic.
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>>84920569
Chris chan is a tranny now? jesus
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>>84918932
I love Verhoeven and Starship Troopers, but it is not the greatest war film ever.
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>>84925226
RACIST SEXIST
DROOMBLY IS EVIL AND WILL BE IMPEACHED
WE CANT LET HIM GET
THE NUCLEAR
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODES
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>>84925965

NOBODY POST IT
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god damn do i love this movie
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>>84919361

>Rico is literally a cuck

Ahead of its time indeed
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>>84926312
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>>84926326
what ps2 game is that?
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>>84919785
Idk where you read this, but it's wrong. Verhoeven read half of the book, thought it was fascist schlock (which it is) and decided to mock it.
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>>84920030
You realize Heinlein himself disagreed with the ideas in ST later in life right?
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>Try to make an anti fascism movie
Make the best pro Fascism movie
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>>84926437
Yeah, but that doesn't mean he wrote it to be intended as satire.
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>>84926552
No it doesn't, but edgy spergs who actually believe Starship Troopers depicts a realistic utopian society always conveniently tend to forget that even its creator thought it was a dumb fascist mess when he had the wisdom of years.
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>>84926603
>realistic utopian society
Aye, maybe not

But I do think that he's onto something with restricted voting rights.
People who choose to go through military training know a thing or two more about thinking about the greater good than your average fuckwad.
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>>84926750
Voting rights should be restricted to taxpayers and there is not even a single justifiable reason it shouldn't be so. We pay we say.
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>>84925965
where have you been?
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thanks /tv/ watching this kino rn. First time I watched I hated it and thought it was cheesy but it wasnt until I was at a party with some friends and we watched it that it clicked.
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It's one my favorite movie of all times.

Right in the top tier movies of all times like Predator and Alien.

BUGS!!!
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Anyone hear about the reboot in the works?
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>>84917616

It's not just the quality of the animation that is vital but also the choreography of it's movements as well to make it realistically 'animated'.
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>>84920449
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>>84918932
its up there for sure, although i am partial to the thin red line and full metal jacket
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>>84917777
True, no fur to render, no stretchy skin, plus >>84917779 they're unnatural so there's no frame of reference. "That's not what giant bugs look like!!!"
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>>84918004
>1. They used '90s cg for the background creatures and cutting-edge computer-tracked stop motion for the foreground creatures.
and no source was given that day
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>>84920415
Fuck you, kike.
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>>84920449
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>>84920351
If you're illegal they don't add you to the electoral roll because they don't know who you fucking are, you dipshit. Have you ever met an illegal migrant? They don't willingly put themselves in the position of interacting with the federal government because they don't want to be deported. The fact remains that despite their best efforts, the GOP have found close to zero evidence of electoral fraud. They want to waste untold tax dollars introducing voter controls designed to disenfranchise the poor because they know rich selfish cunts will vote for them. But why am I even trying to convince you? You were too busy in your cuck shed to vote
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>>84921790
He looks a bit like Molyneux
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>>84927914
Ironsides is a goat
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>>84920449
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>>84920449
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>>84917616
I really like how you can see visible chunks and green goo and shit fly off the bugs every time they get shot. In these monster movies you almost never see that shit, instead the bullets just comically ricochet off and shit
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>>84920675
>
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>>84928489
A bug can lose a limb and still be 86% combat effective. Here's a tip, aim for the nerve stem, and put them down for good.
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>>84920608
JEW DETECTED or perhaps a race traitor, either way it's the gas chamber for you faggot.
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>people on this board actually think allowing the bugs to live is ok
false flag or not, bugs can not be allowed to live
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>>84926417
I said it was an influence. They didn't actually have the rights to use the Starship Troopers name until after the screenplay was written
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>>84926326
That's not from finished movie
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>>84917616
I saw this shit in theaters. So fucking based.
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>>84929020
There's sci-fi story I read ages ago
I think it was SM Stirling
I forget

Anyways, it was about a war between humans and this alien race.
The main character was this naive young private in this war.
He gets shipwrecked with some older veterans and he is told that there is no room for cooperation. There can't be.
At the end of the day, there are finite resources, and since growth will always have an infinite curve, it either goes to us or them.
Ever ounce of resources that goes to them is one less human.
And that is unacceptable.
By premise alone, we must fight.
Anyone who isn't expanding is dying.
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>>84927390
You're ignoring the existence of sanctuary cities that harbor these illegals, give them driver's licences which are sufficient ID to vote because pollworkers aren't allowed to verify that they're citizens.
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>>84919473
I WONDER WHAT THE CITY FATHERS OF HIROSHIMA WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT.
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>>84920351
44 states are refusing to turn over their voting information you fucking idiot.
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>>84919507
>clip
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>>84919507
they are called rounds DIP
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>verhoeven didn't get that the book was satire
really makes you think
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BRAIN BUGS?! frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks O-FFENSIVE!
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>>84930842
It wasn't satire you neo-liberal faggot
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Why was raczchak right?
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>>84920449
What a fucking fantastic piece
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>>84917777
Nice quads.
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>>84931501
Silvestri is GOAT for bombastic scores
Look at Conan or anything else he did
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>>84920401
>Hienlen's "gee golly" 50's dialogue did not jive well trying to read it in 2017.

How is that any different from any other past decades dialogue? The 60s, 70s, 80s, even the 90s all have their way of talking. You don't think it's a bit out of place when some guy says "dude, that's totally rad" or something similar? It's like complaining about women having puffy hair in an 80s movie.
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>>84921873

The Marines have armored vehicles and air support.

The Mobile Infantry has bottomless magazines and nuke bazookas.

>I dunno man
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>>84931872
>tfw I unironically say "Dude that's rad" nearly every day
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>>84925689

BSG and SST the best space war kino?
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>>84923782
He is referring to a literal democracy, not the way most people refer to democracy in a generic sense even though they actually live in republics or constitutional monarchies. The government in the film is a Federation, not a literal democracy.
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>>84931972
Dude, that's neato
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>>84931992
I unironically love BSG's space shakycam.
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>>84932106
Ditto.
It fit with the militarykino theme that the show had
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