Some Orson Welles quotes >He agreed that Marlon Brando, whose

Of course there is famous quote about Woody Allen too.
>I hate Woody Allen physically, I dislike that kind of man. I can hardly bear to talk to him. He has the Chaplin disease. That particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge.He is arrogant. Like all people with timid personalities, his arrogance is unlimited. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he’s not. He’s scared. He hates himself, and he loves himself, a very tense situation. It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups. Everything he does on the screen is therapeutic.

>>84916456
That's pretty insightful

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>>84916456

plus he married one of his molestation victims to avoid going to prison which is not known as a "nice place" for pedophiles

>>84916572
>>84916889
Fuck off Orson.

Orson was a big guy.

>>84916456
Absolutely brutal

>>84916456
haha i-imagine being like Woody Allen c-can you even imagine haha lol

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>action

>>84916456
quote hits way too close to home

>>84916456
>It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest.
kek

Here's a great bit on Hemingway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyTi9v9QPxE

>>84917117
>getting btfo by someone who's been dead for 30 years

Orson Welles meets Armond White. What do they talk about?

>Shakespeare was terribly pessimistic. But like a great many pessimists, he was also an idealist. It is only optimists who are incapable of understanding what it means to love an impossible ideal.

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>>84916994
Shitposting from beyond the grave.

>>84916431
>>84916456

damn, Welles is a fucking savage

The guy's right but he also has a massively inflated sense of self importance beyond compare. He would have been on here advocating for /film/.

>>84917492
NoI'm too busy shitposting in \tpg\!
Orson

>Welles adored Oliver Reed, a fellow imbiber, and was impressed at his mountain of unpaid bills and nightclub-wrecking rampages.

No wonder they got along well since they were both ABSOLUTE MADMEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXMHZ4XEs0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyV3DlvKYmA

MAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH THE FRENCH

How could he said that about Hitchcock if Citizen Kane is 70% Rebecca (cinematographically)?

>>84916431

Good bantz but holy shit Orson talking about Hitchcock worship being abut egotism and laziness? The nadir of self insight.

>>84916431
based Orson
I always thought Brando was a pretentious dumbass posing as an intellectual

>>84917825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXpVA7IAH1o

>>84916431
Orson Welles's absolute lack of self awareness would make him a perfect /tv/ poster.

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>>84918344

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>>84916431
>ywn bulk or direct as successfully as him

The quotes of Welles bantz come from the book 'My Lunches with Orson' by Peter Biskind, who in turn, says:

>He had earned a reputation for giving up on films without finishing them, and studios had refused to finance him.
‘He was an enormous talent and it came as a huge disappointment,’ says Biskind. ‘So he had a somewhat jaundiced attitude to some of the people who were more successful than him at the end of his life.’
Welles BTFO

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Reminds me of Andrei Tarkovsky

>>84918655
What a hack.

>>84918520
Honestly that one quote is more savage than all of Welles’ whinings. Or maybe I’m just butthurt about that Woody Allen one.

>>84918655
>trash
>hack
>pleb
>whore
Tarkovsky is /tv/ incarnate

>>84918655
literally /tv/

>>84916456
Huh, nice. I never managed to verbalize my despise of Woody Allen so perfectly. Thanks for floating these anon.

>>84917748
>Oliver Reed pulls Lettermans hand at the beginning of the interview
>davey boy is anally annihilated for the whole interview because of it

>>84918655
>hating on Zombi 2
What a fucking pleb.

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>Rear Window
>‘one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen’

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>>84916431
They were both edgy narcissistic cunts and should have died far sooner.

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>>84917321
Hemingway and Welles were both balls deep into Dietrich. Patrician taste.

>>84918083
Brando never pretended to be an intellectual. He just did whatever he wanted all the time, and because he was so insanely good at his job, he got away with it.

>>84917037

4U

>>84916572
Eerily so, it could describe the entirety of this site.

>>84919178
>"It was reported during the filming of The Missouri Breaks (1976) that the environmentally sensitive Brando fished a frog out of a pond, took a huge bite out of the hapless amphibian, and threw it back into the drink."

Truly the most method of actors.

>>84916431
>>84916456
literally /ourguy/

>>84919178
He pretty much admit that he is pretty stupid and that every retard could be an actor (same thing said McQueen btw., his words to Chuck Norris "If you don't become successful with Karate, try to be an actor, it's the easiest job in the world and everyone can do that").

>>84916431
>>84916456
Fuck I love these. Even if I don't fully agree with them, it's something to think about. Paints these people in a different light.

>>84919136
The only good thing about it is the theme tune. It's a corny zombie movie with violence but somehow it's utterly fucking boring.

>>84917321
>some damn faggot
Truly, a different time

>>84919140
That's how you know Welles is a great actor, like Marlon Brando

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>>84916431
>>84916456
Why are the most successful individuals in a given field almost always massive cunts?

>>84917382
Pretty sure Welles would murder Armond before the night was over.

>>84919526
They've earned the right to be.

>>84919552
This makes no sense.

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>>84916431
Welles threads are the only good thing on /tv/

Hitchcock is fucking shit.

>>84919390
What a fucking pleb.

>>84919526
I guess you're not talking about Orson Welles.

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>In her 1999 book, Mary Pacios, a former neighbor of the Short family in Medford, Massachusetts, suggested filmmaker Orson Welles as a suspect.[26] Pacios bases this theory on such factors as Welles's volatile temperament and his creation of mannequins three months before Short's death that supposedly featured lacerations virtually identical to those inflicted on Short. The mannequins were used in the "house of mirrors" set for The Lady From Shanghai, a film Welles was making with his ex-wife Rita Hayworth around the time of the murder. The scenes containing the set were deleted from the film by Harry Cohn. In one of Short's last letters home, her older sister Virginia claimed she had written that a movie director was going to give her a screen test.

>Pacios also cites Welles' familiarity with the site where the body was found and the magic act he performed to entertain soldiers during World War II. She believes that the bisection of the body was part of the killer's signature and an acting out of the perpetrator's obsession. Welles applied for his passport on January 24, 1947, the same day the killer mailed a packet to Los Angeles newspapers. Welles left the country for an extended stay in Europe 10 months after the murder without completing the editing of Macbeth, the film he was both directing and starring in. Despite persistent attempts by Republic Pictures to get him to return to complete the film, he refused. According to Pacios, witnesses she had interviewed state that Welles and the victim both frequented Brittingham's restaurant in Los Angeles during the same time period and waitresses believed Short was going out with someone at Columbia Pictures. Welles was never a suspect in the investigation.

>>84919526
This really isn't that bad at all.

>>84919738
I am.

>>84919743
Terrible comment.

>>84919749
He's far from being among the most successful individuals in his given field, since he couldn't succeed to complete a movie for how many years?
Why do you think he wound up shooting commercials and being so resentful?

>>84919742
He definitely did it

>>84919825
>Why do you think he wound up shooting commercials and being so resentful?
Because he didn't give a shit.

Doesn't mean he wasn't an excellent actor.

>>84919390
Fulci was a kino master

>>84919742
His true masterpiece... What an artist.

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>>84919591
> only good thing on /tv/

Someone post his anti-Irish rants

>>84919852
Who proceeded to act in shit films 'cause nobody would employ him.
All those rants are the result of seeing people being more successful than him and being such a shit guy that he couldn't do anything about it, so he resorted to bitching about them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE

>>84919982
Still an excellent actor.

>>84917748
>that second video
Holy shit my sides.

>>84919712
elaborate

He's kinda right about Hitchcock, never understood the amount of praise he gets.

Caught The Man Who Knew Too Much a while back on TV, absolutely dreadful.

>>84916431
>>84916456
based MWAAAH

>>84920066
Maybe, but not successful, which is what we were talking about.

>>84920153
Theres a lot of people that don't care for Hitchcock. I haven't seen too many of his films but I don't think they aged well.

>>84920041
>crumb-crisp coating

>>84916456
Can someone write this in easier english? I don't understand what he's saying

>>84916431
He seems intelligent himself, how did he act so well in Citizen Kane?

>>84919526
They are sucessful in their fields precisely because they are massive cunts.

>>84920231
lel

>>84920231
He thinks Woody Allen is a reddit cuck.

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>>84920160
*farts*

>>84919582
Ok let me break it down. A cunt is just some random asshole no one likes or pays attention to, because he's a cunt. A well accomplished and respected cunt worked his way to the top and gets to be a cunt on a pedistool who people still respect despite his rude attitude. In other words, they've earned the right to be.

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>it's a Brando does a British accent episode

>>84920231
brainlet

>>84920260
Really made me think

>>84920160
>>84919982
He was in Transformers as Unicron, and the best part of the movie. Pretty iconic in that role too. Then he said he was playing a toy fighting other toys.... god damnit Orsen get your shit together.

>>84920318
?

>if Orsen Wells was the /tv/ of his time

>>84919165
>both
You mean Welles and Brando?

I'm smarter then Welles.

>>84920153
I'd argue he was the Tarantino of his era -- stylish to the point of glib and occasionally jarring. You never forget you're watching a movie, especially a Hitchcock movie, when you're watching his movies.

>>84920360
>A toy fighting other toys

Let's be honest here, that's what he was playing

>>84920481
I know but shit like that is why he didnt get more roles and had that toy be his last performance instead of something, like, dignified. At least he was the coolest toy.

welles is always right

>OW: Spencer Tracy is one of those bitchy Irishmen.

>HJ: One of those what?

>OW: One of those bitchy Irishmen.

>HJ: I can't believe you said that.

>OW: I'm a racist, you know. Here's the Hungarian recipe for making an omelet. First, steal two eggs. [Alexander] Korda told me that.

>HJ: But you liked Korda.

>OW: I love Hungarians to the point of sex! I almost get a hard-on when I hear a Hungarian accent, I'm so crazy about them.

>HJ: I don't understand why you're saying that about the Irish.

>OW: I know them; you don't. They hate themselves. I lived for years in Ireland. The majority of intelligent Irishmen dislike Irishmen, and they're right.

>HJ: All these groups dislike themselves. Jews dislike themselves.

>OW: Nothing like Irishmen.

>HJ: That doesn't make them right, Orson, and you know that. And I don't accept this prejudice from you. I know that you don't really have it.

>OW: I do have it. I do have it. Particularly against Irish-Americans. I much prefer Irishmen from Ireland. If I have to have an Irishman, I'll take one of those. And Irishmen in England are quite good. All the great Irish writers mostly left and went to England, except for [George William] Russell and [William Butler] Yeats. Yeats makes me shiver. But when I look at Tracy, I see that everything that's hateful about him is Irish. Everything that's mean. Every Irishman will tell you that. Seven hundred years of bitter oppression changed their character, gave them that passive meanness and cunning. All I can say is what Micheál Mac Liammóir said when we were making Othello, and I asked him, "Describe the Irish in one word." He said, "Malice." Look, I love Ireland, I love Irish literature, I love everything they do, you know. But the Irish-Americans have invented an imitation Ireland which is unspeakable. The wearin' o' the green. Oh, my God, to vomit!

>HJ: That's boring and silly, and—

>OW: No, it's to vomit. Not boring and silly. Don't argue with me. You're such a liberal! Of course there's no proof. It's the way I feel! You don't want me to feel that, but I do! I think everybody should be bigoted. I don't think you're human if you don't acknowledge some prejudice.

In case anyone is wondering these are all quotes from My Lunches with Orson. I have an extra copy if anyone wants it, first one to post their address gets it.

>>84919526
They usually aren't. People don't like working with assholes and will do as little as they can for them. You're just noticing the exceptions.

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>>84917037
>>84919230

4Unicron

>>84917748
Why is late night so shit now?

>>84921011
TV is playing it safe and trying not to offend anyone

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>>84920231
The absolute state of /tv/

>>84921011
Some modern episodes are kino too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maBjr0yPfu4

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>>84916456
This is a guy who made his magnum opus when he was 25 and it went all downhill from there. So there's some bitterness there.

Also, anyone who bashes Chaplin is most definitely NOT /ourguy/

>>84916456
describes me to a tee. i should probably consider heading to the rope store

>>84922525
The Rope store? Is that how we say become an hero now?

>>84916431
Orson is GOAT.

>>84922600
a* hero, goofball

>>84922676
s u m m e r

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>>84918655
>The only one who is afraid of nothing is Bresson
The alpha and the omega of film studies. When is he going to get proper recognition as the GOAT?

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>>84919526
Great men struggle to deal with plebs.

>>84922743
He already is by the right people.

>>84922708
f a l l

>>84922748
Get out

>>84917382
http://www.nypress.com/armond-white-citizen-kane-or-vertigo-which-is-more-fun/
>Citizen Kane held sway as the "Greatest Film Of All Time" for so long that a lot of people began to believe it (and some resent it).
>So Vertigo doesn't herald a revolution in cinematic appreciation; rather, it represents warped consensus. Its choice merely replaces Kane to show a new era's unoriginal taste and obsessive interest in pathology and soullessness that's been building in certain film cliques at least since the film's 1996 reissue. The herd mentality rules.

On the one hand, they'd bond over a hatred of Hitchcock. On the other, White would criticise Welles' filmography as overrated and I don't know how h'd take that

>>84922792
>not Autumn
Spotted the amerilarge

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>2017

>Hollywood is still butthurt
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>84916431
>>Rear Window, the Hitchcock thriller in which Stewart plays an invalid who witnesses a murder in a neighbouring apartment, was ‘one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen’, said Welles with relish.
And yet I agree with the pugnacious fat man.

>>84916431
well, which actors/directors did he actually like?

>>84922937
fall is more poetic you aspie cocksucker

First you're a pleb who likes Tarantino and capeshit flicks.

Then you move on to the French cinema and pretend you like all that boring crap.

Then you're a proto-patrician who can't decide between Kubrick and Hitchcock.

And at the end, if you're lucky, you begin to understand Welles was THE director. The one and only true filmmaker.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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>>84916456
>It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world

>>84923027
*slaps you across the face with dick*

>>84922743
Too bad Valerian is still gonna flop!

>>84923166
*envelopes your nose in my asscrack and rips a paint peeler*

>>84920231

>shiiieeeeettttt
>fuck Woody Allen
>fuck Charlie Chaplin
>n fuck timid ppl
>day scurred

>>84920318
loser

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>>84923251
I'm not that guy, but I just have to say I can't even tell if you're trolling. Nice.

>>84923251

Underrated bait

>>84919742
Truly /our guy/

>>84922372
Keaton > Chaplin
Chaplin is way overrated

>>84919906
Norm just continues to fall back on homosexual jokes. "I like to suck dicks. You like to suck dicks. HAHAha." He is a shadow of his former self. A huge, fat shadow.

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>>84923711
>bait

>>84919456

jesus christ raimi

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>>84922372
But he made his best movie way later

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>>84916456
>"To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups."

Heh, yeah, that's so pathetic.