is heroin really that bad?

>>84896330
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9huWlXFA1s

>>84896330
Yes

>>84896330
Yeah, but it's a fun fucking movie anyway. So comfy.

>>84896389
fuckin hell, if only heroine wasn't addictive

>Luke, did I ever tell you about the time I did heroin?

>>84896330
the severity of Heroin withdrawls is widely overrated. For example in Trainspotting, the symptoms withdrawl ascribed to heroin (delusions, a nightmarish experience) is more common to Alcohol withdrawl.
Heroin withdrawl is described by doctors as no worse than having the flu.
All heroin addicts are addicts by choice. This was proven historically when Mao eliminated opium use overnight in China by instituting a death penalty for its use. The addicts rationally decided to stop, and did.

>>84896630
[citation(s) needed]

>>84896389
Then when you finally stop for a while then go back to it.
That normal dose that made you feel great might just kill you.

The line between heroin having any effect at all and being an overdose is so fucking small compared to other drugs.

I did it twice and didn't really see the big deal.

Didn't inject though. Probably won't do it again.

>>84896630
I think thats a vast over simplification of the issue. Sure it has been proven that the effects of withdraw are no worse than the flu, however youre disregarding outside forces to ones heroine use. Im sure if it was as black and white people would have a much easier time quitting as you suggest.

>>84896330
nah, amerifats are just pussies that can't handle hard drugs

>>84896330
Fuck I wouldn't mind banging the ol processed opium

>>84896330
Yes

Opiates will fucking kill you. They're incredibly addictive. I grew up in a very nice middle class family and my oldest sister got hooked and died. Don't do it.

>>84896389
great video, I wish I could've shown this to people that don't understand

Recovering addict here. Yeah it's pretty fucking bad

>>84896389
No reason for it to be illegal. Working for shlomo and dying from cancer or heart disease after a life of not heroin is far worse than dying of an overdose in your 30s after ten years of a healthy addiction to heroin.

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>>84896600
Choose the Order. Choose a mission. Choose a Master. Choose a fucking big hologram projector. Choose refresher machines, starships, compact holocron players and lightsabers. Choose Force healing, high midichlorian count, and Trade Federation insurance. Choose fixed interest Tattooine junkyard repayments. Choose a starter meditation chamber. Choose your Padawans. Choose trooper armor and matching R4 unit. Choose a three-piece robe on hire purchase in a range of fucking Jedi fabrics. Choose democracy and wondering who the fuck you are on a Coruscanti morning. Choose sitting on that repulsor chair waiting through mind-numbing, Force-crushing Council meetings, stuffing fucking Dex's Diner food into your mouth. Choose being one with the Force at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable cave, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up younglings you trained to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose the Empire... But why would I want to do a thing like that?
I chose not to choose the Empire. I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got the high ground?

I smoked it twice and injected it three times. I was with friends I trusted. It feels unbelievably warm and comforting. I ascribe it to a return to the womb. Just loving, peaceful feelings for you and everyone around you.

I saw why it is so beloved by those addicted to it, but I didn't use it enough to develop a habit, so I never had to deal with withdrawal.

Honestly having a strong opinion on something without having tried it is L o L

>>84896918
i hope this is not true

Opioid aren't bad for you by themselves.

Prohibition and the resulting high prices, unregulated products of question quality, and users being driven to the fringes of society is the problem.

Then again some people are just retarded and will find a way to kill themselves through sheer stupidity no matter what

>>84896330
idk give it a try OP : ^ )

>>84897097
Now this is kino

>>84896761
same here

>>84897054
well I mean that is up to you

I stole heroin pills from my dad when he had surgery. Shit was fucking cash. I wish I could die on heroin fuck this gay earth fuck having to talk to niggers and being a normalfag to buy drugs

>>84897136
Are you joking? Its the realest most common thing there is.

>>84897136
I hooked my eldest sister in the cunt with my dick and she got pregnant with my child/niece god she makes me so horny

>>84897136
It is senpai. She was a junior in college when she met a guy at a party who gave her one of those synthetic opiate substitutes several times over the course of her junior year. By the time that summer came around she dropped out of school and started using heroin with him. Ended up having a baby who is thankfully 100% healthy (and cute) but she died of an overdose several years back.

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>>84897294

>>84897054
>Working for shlomo and dying from cancer or heart disease after a life of not heroin is far worse than dying of an overdose in your 30s after ten years of a healthy addiction to heroin.
yeah i'm sure the state wouldn't mind if you paid taxes for 10 years instead of 40 because you died from a substance that doesn't generate tax revenue. cigarettes and alcohol usually kill shortly after you start collecting that sweet retirement money.

>>84896330
For 17 bucks it can't be that bad

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>>84897294
>being this degenerate

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The British East India Company conquered South Asia whilst mostly high on heroin. Well, technically, opium, but it's much the same thing.

>>84896389
fucking redditors are so insufferable

>>84897580
t. Junkie
Is heroin addiction "4chan" now?

>>84896330
It's only bad if you're a poorfag

That feelerino when you know that if you were in a situation to try heroin, you'd do it

I just wasn't asked yet, don't know any heroin people

sounds like fun though

>>84896389
as much as I hate reddit, this is a good example

also recommend this doc on what heroin does to you and everyone around you
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIGaGkBVfK8

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>>84897723
Don't. I've known too many people who've tried it and then fucked their life up.

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Don't do drugs kids

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>>84897294
Based nonsenseposter

>>84897880
I know man but I'm just this type of person that needs to try all kinds of shit

I'm very curious about different states of being

>>84897980
Try gnosticism first

>>84896330
No way would I poison my body with that shite, all them fookin' chemicals, no fookin' way.

>>84897998
I've heard of it, doesn't really interest me that much. atm I'm reading about the occult and crowley/an magic

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>>84897906
>several weeks without having a bowel movement

>>84897870
That has NOTHING on the SpontaneousH story

https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/68srty/spontaneoush_uses_heroin_gets_addicted_dies_gets/

Its actually scary

>>84897906
Just take Movantik with your H

It took me about a year to actually get an every day addiction. Was addicted for three years. Only smoked it so I never lost my job but delt with sketchy ppl and saw the way they turned out. Had alot of close calls but was finally able to quit when the cops busted everyone. Almost got me too but I knew it was a set up. Since I only bought from one dude and didnt hang out with any of them besides when I was buying I didnt have any other ppl. Been clean for three years. The only lasting affect was geting out of the debt I accumulated. None of my family or job knew and only close friends knew. All in all I was a lucky one. Acouple of my other friends wernt so lucky.

>>84896630
>the severity of Heroin withdrawls is widely overrated

jesus you are dumb and misinformed. if you went through severe heroin withdrawals you would be begging, and i mean begging for death within a matter of hours mate. it is very likely the worst feeling a human can feel, and if not the worst it is top 5. getting your arm chopped off, giving birth with no pain meds, nearly dying from strep throat, drowning and being brought back, these things are all next to nothing compared to severe w/d from opiates. I know this because these are experience i and others i know have had, who have also experienced w/d. I have also been through alcohol and benzo detox. Opiate w/d is the closest thing to hell(assuming that exists, that is, not trying to discuss that here) that we will experience while alive. Anyway stfu with shit you have no clue about

>>84898217
Not just physical but mental. I always had the most depressing dreams. Usually about me being little and wishing I could go back instead of dealing with the shit Im going thru today. That scene at the end when wayne is curling up in the prison wishing he was back with his mom hit home. Feels AF

>>84898363
> Requiem for a Dream

>>84898217
So how do they feel?

mental and physical. when you are withdrawing you know that just a little hit will make all the leg cramps, restlessness, the shitty feeling and pain go away. just use one last time, i'll kick it after this

fuck that 3 of my good friends from high school died, i should be dead too but somehow i'm not. now i'm 29 posting on a mongolian basket weaving forum and finishing my B.S. in Ecology in 2 years. track marks all over my arms. fuck you naive kids

>>84897097
*born slippy intensifies*

>>84898565
>is only 29
>calls other kids
lmao

>>84898217
>I know this because these are experience i and others i know have had,

So you're a fucking degenerate

>>84898630
i feel old

>>84898492
well the thing is, the flu comparison comes up because it's the closest thing anyone can relate to. some of the symptoms match up pretty well, the aches, stomach issues, shitting your brains out etc. Some of it is almost indescribable, and most people simply have never felt that way, so how do you describe it? Anyway, the best i can get across, it is like the flu(talking about severe w/d here, a couple month vic habit will be about like the flu honestly) magnified by 100 for most symptoms, add to that you can't sleep, for about a week straight. Pain in nearly every receptor in your body, you whole body is on fire and you want to get out of it, bad. You are depressed like you can't imagine, crying at commercials on tv. you can't sit still, can't focus on anything. Sometimes the pain is so bad some people curl up in a fetal position, cry and beg for death. This lasts for weeks or months depending on what opiate(methadone is particularly long). After the acute symptoms you generally just feel like dogshit for a long time. That's the best i got, a lot of it i just can't describe. Oh and the whole time you are aware of a substance that can take it all away, and must choose not to get it and take it, which fucks with you bad

>>84898671
>So you're a fucking degenerate

wow what tipped you off sherlock?

Why do white people like this shit?

>>84898681
pretty much this, would say the physical stuff doesn't last quite that long though.

the main thing is that you'll do ANYTHING to make it stop, steal from friends, work, family, strangers, borrow, anything just to score again

>>84898681
Your fault for not sticking to weed. They told you it was a bad idea and you laughed them off because you're a selfish, arrogant prick.

>>84898729

Your grammar and the ranting and raving over the topic before I got to the part where you admit you're a degenerate.

>>84898039
The sharp pain of tearing your asshole is entirely worth all the time you spent getting off

>>84898681
>>84898750
Damn that sounds pretty bad. I was on chemo for a year and half a couple of years ago but that sounds worse

>>84898750
well ya the worst of the psysical stuff is over after about a week, but they linger for a while for most people, just less intense. Also methadone and suboxone and a couple other long acting opiates have much longer symptoms. Also really depends on how long you were doing it, first time i was all done in about 5 days, last time took much much longer. My post was already a wall of text so i left some of that out.

>>84898671
What the hell does that have to do with what he said?

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>>84898831

Nothing you dumb cunt.

>>84896330
Watch HBO's "Heroin Cape Cod, USA".

>>84897150
DUDE

>>8489887
>le random insult
As expected from a likely underaged shitposter.

It's not that bad for your body in the short term, but it is one of the most addictive substances you can get off the street. Eventually your body will request so much heroin to get the same effect that you will overdose and die.

>>84896630
nigga even a fever a little too harsh can make you hallucinate, do you really think a person with chemical dependency won't?

>>84897241
>heroin pills

>>84896330
There's a shitty System of a Down song about it so I hate it just for that.

>>84896389
This is kinda like weed too

>>84896389
That video was sooooo cringe...

>>84899629
The whole channel is a guy reading reddit comments that get a lot of upboats and he has 50k subscribers watching his stupid shit and he sounds like a fag. FUCK I wish I could think of something like this

>>84899669
He cant make any money doing it though, those numbers are high but not really high enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g49kXbRaZDU

enjoy anons, you might learn something

>>84899698
But the amount of work involved is literally nothing. Even if he made 200 bucks a month it's still p. good for his shit. Plus he has a lot of views from nonsubscribers it looks like

>>84896630
Easy bait.
>le heroin withdrawals are basically just a cold. That's why people lose every sense of moral dignity to get a fix.
You ever seen someone suck a dick for flu medicine?

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>>84896330
You wake up, and your mind's initial thoughts are of heroin. If you can take it immediately, do you have some or do you need to get more? In which case it becomes your first absolute priority and if you don't have money it may not be an obstacle in the way of your high. Everything else always comes second even to bodily functions like taking a piss or getting a drink of water.

The horror stories I hear of what lengths people to get their high. If you don't have money everything becomes pawnable and everyone is a target for you to approach them with a fake problem that involves them giving you $40 in the pursuit of your high which is now your body's need to feel correct.

It makes me glad I'm just addicted to weed and porn

I've heard heroine is better than sex. Why don't more people do it?

>>84899710
>lets talk about my pennis for a while

>>84899721
Read creepypasta and shill yourself everywhere.
They all seem to get views

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>>84899537
In the long run, yes. If you don't buy and smoke when it is offered it's not a big deal. At least, that's my experience.

Also don't do water (pure GHB). Fucks your skin up badly.

>>84899731
porn addiction is literally worse for society today than any other drug tho

>>84896330
no.
do drugs grab you by the ball and yell at you "inject me, dumbfuck"?

>>84898042
That's not scary the guy was just a fucking moron who somehow thought he'd be unphased by a drug he knew was incredibly dangerous and highly addictive.

>>84897980
Get some fentanyl brah

>>84896761
Key word is probably. You will do it again and get addicted to it eventually. You will give in. Heroine always wins.

>>84899963
>t a fucking moron who somehow thought he'd be unphased by a drug he knew was incredibly dangerous and highly addictive.

Its scary because people will pop prescription opiates like candy because a doctor gives them to you. Its a slippery slope you can easily fall down

>>84896330
No. It's actually beneficial, when used in moderation.

>>84900118
I can understand someone going through that when it comes to a doctor but to actively go out and buy heroin thinking you'll be one of the lucky rare who try it once and end up fine is incredibly fucking stupid.

>>84900163
I agree, the dude is a dumb shit. Its just scary a lapse in judgement like that could have bad consequences.

What if it were some broad on tinder, or someone you just met at a party?
I just come from a small town where scripts were way easier to get than actual drugs and it just rekt a lot of people I knew.

>>84900255
I live near a city that is going through a massive heroine problem right now so I've seen what it does to people first hand which has pretty much deterred me away from doing any hard drugs ever. It's fucking scary thinking what if your life turns the same direction as the guy who is trying to sell newspapers he grabbed from the trashcan.

All these Reddit heroin stories are nothing compared to SA's Joose stories.

>guys I blacked out for two weeks, my apartment is empty, and none of my friends will talk to me, overall rate the trip 6/10

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>>84900118

W-Wrong! I NEED THESE! THEY MAKE ME BETTER!

>>84899385

Morphine probably.

M80s

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>>84896330
never been retarded enough to do H but have taken copious amounts of vicodin and percocets

Definitely felt euphoria but it was so concentrated that deep down I knew it was all completely artificial. probably in the minority here but I'd take some loud-ass kush over opiates any day of the week

t. drug expert

>>84899726

I've convinced people that semen is good for a sore throat before, so, yes.

>>84900412
Don't forget ordering a giant grand piano off eBay that won't fit into his apartment.

Does heroin use have a ceiling? Like the first post says "Ahhh I need more and more and now I'm in a crack den with a gun" but what if you're super wealthy and have all the heroin you need?

>>84897342
>cigarettes and alcohol usually kill shortly after you start collecting that sweet retirement money.
NOW...what did the bad goy mean by this? >:^)

>>84900696

Better to stay away from H and stick to oxy/vicodin/morphine etc.

>>84896330
imagine you could spend eternity inside the rugrats universe as a blissfully naive baby

>>84900481
>t. drug expert

whatever kid you probably havent even tried jenkem

>>84897136
Not him but I grew up in a historical middle to upper class village amidst a sea of rural farmland. I know of 2 people that died after high school (2010 grad) from opiate use. There are more that I suspect but am not in the know about. Its a very real problem that (((they))) dont want solved. Population culling.

>>84900696
>but what if you're super wealthy and have all the heroin you need?

You end up like Chris Farley, or Jon Belushi, or Mitch Hedberg, or Seymour Hoffman, or Whitney Houston, or Prince, or currently like Artie Lange.
That or you have a husband like Patton Owalt who shoves it down your throat and kills you easily

>>84898933
HEROIN

>>84900741
Why is that, my friend? I heard Oxy was the devil.

>>84900785
>Population culling.

Really?
No, it just makes a whole lot of people a whole lot of money

>>84900773
nah ive tried peyote though, hence my expert status

>>84900903
620 huff jenk every day faggot

>>84900696
>and have all the heroin you need?
That's kind of the thing you never have all the heroin you need. Either you'll blow all your money or just end up overdosing if you don't try to get better.

>>84900773
I "huffed' paint and paint thinner once.
It was terrible
>put up plastic sheets in garage to make a "paint booth"
>didnt realize it needed active ventilation
>was in a fog of automotive spray paint
>eventually had to stop when I started feeling strong anxiety, dizziness, and a really foggy head

It was pretty bad, it messed me up for over 24 hours.

Once I felt better I fucked the paintjob up really bad. I used low odor mineral spirits in the same "paint booth" to completely strip the paint.

I got the same symptoms and worse. I couldnt walk straight, felt like I was drunk, couldnt think. I had balance issues for almost 3 days after that.
Inhalants have to be the dirtiest shit

Mineral spirits and spray paint is strong enough for me, I wouldnt dare Jenkem

>>84901118
praise big nigga nurgle & huff de jenk white boii

>>84897097
beautiful

>>84901118
I did a wide variety of inhalants in my high school days and I'm pretty sure it made by brain all retarded and shit. Like I'm barely qualified to be a mechanic when I was probably on my way to becoming a Rhodes Scholar before I crossed paths with that first can of Dust-Away.

>>84901214
>>84901118

I used to huff oven cleaner.

I turned out fine.

Mostly...

(Been here eleven years and counting.)


ah ha ha ha hah a haaklj

fuck

>>84900412
Any link for that? Google gives me nothing

>>84901214
Ive heard the hypoxia from canned air is pretty clean in terms of the high, because all its doing is depriving the brain of oxygen.
Not that repeatedly depriving the brain of oxygen is good. But canned airs fluorocarbons arent actually toxic.

Spay paint huffers have some real nasty chemicals in their bloodstream when they do it.

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>>84901301
>I used to huff oven cleaner.

>>84896600
>Midichlorians, Duke.

Yes it is. Just stick to coke. Withdrawals are much easier to get over and it's more socially acceptable.

>>84897054
>healthy addiction to heroin
That must be the most retarded sentence I've read this week

Is it really that much of a leap from opiate pills to smack?

>>84898042
christ I can't even read this shit, reddit's format fucking blows

>>84896600
HEY BRIAN

REMEMBA THAT 1 TIME I DID HEROIN?

>>84902187
No it isn't. That's why prescribed opiates are so dangerous.

>>84897136
I live in an upper middle class neighborhood and 3 kids on my block have died from heroin, along with some neighbors still addicted. I live in NY. Shit is very common.

>>84902712

It's good money though.

>>84896330
>is heroin really that bad?
the problem isnt heroin, it's running out of heroin

>>84896330
only if you want to feel good while being oppressed and slowly loosing your soul to the numbing sensation of opiates

>>84896330

Yes

https://erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin.shtml

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>>84901301
what?

>>84896330
>is heroin really that bad?
Yes, very much so.

I'm 2 years clean and on a daily dose of suboxone after 6 years hooked on oxy. It's the perfect little drug that never lets you down but it's capacity to cause destruction is huge.

I live a functioning life now but for years would spend all my time reading, tooling around on /tv/ whilst nodding on oxy.

>>84897097
You fucking deserve a [you] mate.

>>84903972
ah man, i remember my erowid days

>>84904426
>it's capacity to cause destruction is huge
Emphasis on this bit. Lost more than a few family and friends to it over the years.

>>84897097
what a superb post

>>84897294
contain your autism, lad

>>84897136
Can more or less guarantee it's true. Ask around your own neighborhood, I'm sure you'll find at least a couple people you knew or know of OD'd and died.

>>84897103
>Honestly having a strong opinion on something without having tried it is L o L
I get where you're coming from, but losing someone close to you can definitely give you "a strong opinion" even if you never did it yourself.

>>84897097
this is the funniest thing ive seen on this board in months, heres a (you)

>>84898188
>All in all I was a lucky one
That's putting it mildly. Usually "lucky one" in this context just means "not dead".

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>>84897097

>>84899802
people get killed over porn addiction?

>>84898042

Whew, white people area trip.

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>>84898671
>depressed, anxious and addicted to internet, 2-d porn and computer games to the point of alienation, disconnection from reality (/pol/) and difficulty socializing, getting or holding a job and getting girls
>calls others degenerate on a cambodian knitting forum

i'm in H WD right now
you autistic virgins don't know shit about pain

sipping ghb while reading this thread

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Why are there so many normalbros on /tv/?
You can't fuck up something that's already fucked desu.

It's not about the drug itself, it's about the person using it.

>>84905044
Be a fucking man and do some heroin, you'll feel better.

>>84900412
Got a link my man? I just spent 2 hours reading the other reddit dudes story and I'm thirsty for more

>>84905306
I spent all my money on rent yesterday and I'm kicking myself so hard for it right now

>>84904426
Suboxone is far worse than heroin


Far harder to quit

Oh god the horrible long term damage it will do to your body too...

>>84897723
>tfw I've pussied out of cocaine

No chance I'd try heroin unless I was drunk as fuck. The curiosity is there, but not the courage

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your allowed to jump off cliffs and race rally cars around cliff edges. i dont see the difference. if the argument is its harmful for you and others, then so is sitting on your ass eating cheeseburgers until you require a triple bypass on taxpayers money.
>im allowed to fuck myself and everyone around me THIS way because its socially acceptable
uh, ok.

>>84896630
this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Many heroin users would kill to get rid of their addiction. I went through pain killer withdrawal and those were the worst 3 days of my life

>>84897103
>having a strong opinion on something without having tried it is L o L
>L o L
you couldn't have sounded anymore like a underageb&

Using Opiates is like watching the wire or sopranos. So good it'll ruin other experiences

Fuck i miss shooting dope, tbqh

Me personally, i liked to mix it with cocaine.
Literally the best feeling on the planet earth. I feel so empty without it now.

>>84905725
>you should be able to do it because it could kill you
sorry what was your stance again?

>>84896389
I really want to try heroin now

Heroin use has become a serious problem with members of my extended family. One is already dead. The others are causing a lot of problems for their families and headed in the same exact direction.

>coke

No thanks. Coke is for retards. Meth is a billion times better in literally every single way.

>>84905994
t. white trash

kill yourself, my man
Meth is as low tier as you can get.
It's the trailer park of drugs.

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>>84906025
Better than dirty, stepped on plant extract made in some jungle in South America and smuggled in up someone's ass. Blow is a shitty drug for retards.

Shit isn't even any good unless you're already drunk when you do it so it gets metabolized into ethylcaine, and even then it's still utter shit that's inferior to any basic amphetamine

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>>84897294

>>84904855
No, but it's still worse for society because someone told me on /pol/.

>>84898042
>Reddit normie gets bored of his normie life, decides to try a HXC drug
>within the span of a month is a le psychonaut, slamming designer drugs and smack
>dies, goes to rehab, gets 10000000 upboats

Like pottery

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>>84896330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIbpt1aDFqM

Here's some drug kino. It's like watching a disaster.

>>84906671
>Dies, goes to rehab
What?

>>84898681
>he doesn't know what cycling is
brainlet tax strikes again

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>>84896330
It definitely is fun making the state of the. hallucination on the screen, though.

I used to smoke a lot of weed, delved into meth a little bit and tried a lot of other drugs atleast once (coke, ketamine, acid, shrooms, DMT, DXM, nutmeg, oxycodone, hydrocodone, Xanax) but I never once had the urge to even want to try heroin. It was always something my group of friends saw as a bottom of the barrel, fuck your life up for good drug.

I remember one of my friends had a junkie friend and I gave him a ride one night when he was obviously doped up. He just plopped into the back of my car right on top of a full Kleenex box and just sat there staring ahead like it was nothing. I said what's up and he barely managed to say "huh? Oh heysupdude...." I found out he died about three months later from an overdose. It's a trash fucking drug.

>>84906156
this. coke is the worst drug, its so fucking boring

>>84904426
>I'm 2 years clean and on a daily dose of suboxone after 6 years hooked on oxy

mate you aren't clean, as in you are not free of the grip of the opiates. how do i know this? stop taking those subs right now. come back in 2 days and tell us how you feel. quit that shit mate

I just heard about this a few days ago but apparently there are all these drug rehab clinics popping up in south florida and they're basically giant fraud schemes for rich people with good insurance. Basically people who can afford really good insurance plans tend to be covered in case they become addicted to opiates. The catch is that they make you take a piss test every so often and the insurance only kicks in if you blow it. So all these shady little clinics are popping up where they dont even really try to offer rehab they just sit there collecting free money while the rich kid clientele wander around south florida shooting up in bathrooms and shit

I've injected like 30 times in my life probably. One day I just stopped. It was really only a weekend thing with friends. I mean it feels amazing, but I can't see myself sucking dick for 1 hour of feeling perfect and 3 hours of nausea. So I just stopped spending money on it.

>>84896330
>that /fit/ thread where they discuss if phenibut withdrawals are worse than heroin withdrawals

>>84905269
Ameritards can't into drugs easily

>>84896630
Probably the dumbest thing I've read on /tv/ all month. Congrats, you fucking retard.

Whats more addiciting, freebase or heroin?
Sure the heroin withdrawal is worse, but basing feels a lot better also.

>>84896330
https://youtu.be/CVk3ZnT0v2o

>>84896389
redditors make a heroin addiction desirable

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>>84896389
>reading text aloud as it slowly scrolls
what is the point of this, just post the text

What about people like William Burroughs? They took smack and they turned out ok

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yVaKgeb_8ss

>>84900058
nah you're wrong. im the same as that other guy. did a few times years ago because a friend had some, enjoyed it, but never had cravings or urges to do it again.

>>84906842
He was revived, but I guess he died for a little bit.

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>>84896330
Yes, I used to be a junkie, I lost three years of my life on heroin, but I clean now, clean and tidy. Pic related is me

>>84899537
Uhh no it's not at all. Weed makes you paranoid and insecure. Opiates make you not care about anything.

>get addicted to heroin for like a month
>then stop and use microdoses of LSD to rewire the brain and stop the withdrawel completely in just 2 days

why haven't more people figured this out?
It actually works, also Heroin isn't really as bad as people say, the biggest problem is a steady supply with stuff that is not 100% heroin but also contains other shit, thats the shit that kills you, but not pure heroin.

I had the luck of heaving very clean material tho.

>>84900058
I'm that guy.

I don't do anything but smoke weed and drink beer sometimes. I've tried loads of different drugs once or twice, I've just never really got into that lifestyle.

>>84899791
why the fuck would i take a date rape drug

Can anyone rec me a good documentary about drug addiction?

>>84898565
out of pure curiosity

What would you say to a group of people that think that drugs are non-problematic on themselves and that it's the drugged fault for getting hooked on them, as they know what they are getting into

You probably disagree, as me, but I wanna know what you, or others ex/non ex addicts would say

>>84907813
If you get something that's actually good it is a lot of fun, but it wears off quick. Amps will give you a lot more for a much lower dose and you don't have to do more every 20 minutes. I find that amps don't give you the insane confidence that cola does though.

The real point is that you can get properly messed up on charlie and still be basically fine to go to work the next day, but take a solid hit of tina and you're fucked for a day if not more. Depends what you want to get out of your experience.

>>84909073
cos it's fun. super easy to o/d on though.

Just wondering, are the pills they give you after you have a surgery similar to heroine in any way? I remember when I was 17 after I had 6 wisdom teeth removed they gave me a couple pain pills and I remember feeling like I was on cloud 9 just absolutely content and warm and fuzzy.
If so I need to get addicted to heroine asap that shit was cash

>>84909306
most likely they were opiates of some kind, which all act on the same brain chemistry as heroin.

>>84909437
damn opiates are tight as fuck then

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>>84896389
>after a night staying up on coke you will feel like shit

>>84909496
for sure. i've been messing around with oxys and i've done morphine a couple times, it's great. i kind of want to try heroin, but i'm a bit scared of how good it'll be desu.

>>84899537
Weeds tolerance doesnt work if you smoke only once a week, it can however make you addicted if you do it or get in the habit but it fuck with your mindset to be paranoid, depressed, lazy or all 3
Its good to take a stepback and be self aware with how youve been before and after certain drugs as it can help you stop being those 3 things

>>84900696
>but what if you're super wealthy and have all the heroin you need?
You get to do more heroin than normal people before you run out of money and things to sell to buy more heroin.

>>84900058
Not him but i'm similar to the other guy you replied to. Had a friend who was a bad influence on my life, tried heroin with him once and never done it again or felt the need to.

That was about 8 years ago, he ended up hooked to all sorts of drugs i've never even fucking heard of and has fucked his life up and every chance he's been given to fix it up, mostly because he is an idiot though.

>>84896389
simply epic

I always preferred weed but ended up mixing with some serious drug users due to needing to buy it. Became good friends with a dealer who also used to be a serious addict, smoked it semi-regularly with him for a couple of years. He's dead now and I don't have any contact that old crowd. Not that I didn't stay on the fringes mostly anyway because there were some fucked up characters in there and frankly I was too scared to allow myself to become fully immersed in that world.

>>84897097
Bravo

>>84896918
Did you at least fucked her for a shot?

>>84909306
Could also have been a benzodiazepine. I know valium sometimes gets prescribed after wisdom teeth removal.

>>84904855
Yeah dudes will murder girls for not having sex with them

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>I’ve been saying the same thing for 20 bloody years, but they always know better, and they always snort it, not shoot it, and they always only do it at the weekend, and they always look at you with their stupid-cunning pinhead eyes and smirk – and they always die in a pool of their own blood with embolisms behind their knees, and they always break your fucking heart. It’s the most vile fucking drug in the world. And these fucking writers still glamourise it, and I don’t know why.

>Why is it romantic to turn into a cringing little shithead with unhealed sores all over your body, unwashed and stinking with a three-week-old needle and your teeth falling out? One guy, when I was in Earl’s Court, went up to Piccadilly to score, really hurting, and he came back to the Earl’s Court Road cafe we were lounging about in, ran in the crapper to get well — and two minutes later came out the door backwards, his face black and his eyes rolled up, his tongue swollen so big it wouldn’t fit in his mouth. Some bastard sold him rat poison, aka certain death, smiled at him, took his £8 and sent him on his way, KNOWING. Murder, right? And that’s who you’re dealing with. No, no, no. Don’t be a sap. Don’t ‘just say no,’ kick his fucking teeth in. He wants to fuck up your life and probably everyone else you know’s life too.

>Just thought I’d tell you. Love, Lemmy.

This is from the guy who basically always drank a bottle of Jack for breakfast, by the way.

>>84898042
What a fucking idiotic post this and story this whole thing is. Within two weeks he was "on the fast track to becoming an addict oh no woe is me help me u guyz" and shooting up? Bullshit. He tried to get addicted on purpose. This reads like 14 year olds pretending to be drunker than they are the first time they drink. Attention whoring at its absolute peak, injecting heroin and becoming "addicted" to get internet points from other clueless faggots.

>>84897097
Brilliantly fucking illustrated.

>>84901478
I'M TRIPPING BALLS RIGHT NOW!

I overused morphine for an extended period of time (months), the the worst part of withdrawal was the inability to sleep for days.
But, overall it wasn't that bad at all.
Couldn't really say how it compares to heroin
If I could get a prescription for a strong opiate, I wouldn't mind risking withdrawal symptoms again, but I'm suffering pretty sever chronic pain, so it's not unreasonable.

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>>84908663
And five year to methadone which was supposed to get us off it.

I'll just keep doing MDMA and being depressed on work days.

>>84897097
a daring synthesis

>>84910434
based Lemmy

>>84910865
>MDMA
been wanting to try this, how is it?

>>84896330
Nah, not if you sniff it,

>>84912406
IV is a whole different beast, might as well be a different drug

>>84896330
It destroyed my friend group in undergrad. AFAIK nobody is dead, which is lucky. Probably 2/3 of my friends flunked out of school and now live at home or in halfway houses after spending years of their life in and out of rehab. We were all from wealthy families so parents had resources to help their kids. If we were poor they'd probably be dead. This was back in the heyday of OxyContin when you could just suck the time release coating off the pills, eventually people realized they could get a lot more heroin for their money and started doing that. Surreptitious lines at parties on the weekend became all day every day, people stated stealing from each other and doing all sorts of sketchy shit, a few started doing IV and my social circle of like 20 people just disintegrated into nothing. I've lost one high school friend to an overdose (oxy), my sister has lost three friends (2 opana, 1 heroin) and my brother two friends (oxy).

I'm not going to pretend that opiates aren't awesome, they feel great. But they're insidious and extremely dangerous.

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>>84897097
now THIS is memeing

>>84906156
disagree. The difference between coke and adderal, for me at least, is the former give you noticeable euphoria, along with focus and energy, while amphetamines just give me focus and energy.

I don't do either with any frequency at all because the come down is pretty harsh for both, but amphetamines are better for work, and coke is better for partying because of those differences.

All you gross druggos make me sick.

>>84901820
>>84897054
Heroin clinics were last a thing in the UK before war on drugs came and stomped on the world

It was a clinic where you literally just got your free dose for the day.
Patients came in, got their fix, and talked with a doctor under watch for an hour or two, then because they had their daily dose fulfilled, they had the rest of the day to do life things.
The problem otherwise being that an addict will need to become a dealer in order to sustain the habit, or sell the shit they own in order to afford it.

Breaking that cycle gives people a chance to come off it on their own and fill their lives with the things Heroin was attempting to stand in for.