An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power

>>84881072
How can we watch this if we're all underwater by now?

>oh wait the world didnt end yet
>lets make sequel maybe this time it will actually happen
yeah im not buying in to your religion anymore leftards

DUDE TAHITI WILL SINK BY 2260 LMAO

>>84881072
Because the last thread was SO good, let's make a sequel

Fuck you OP

>>84881493
buttblasted faggot

>>84881622
Fuck you anon, you probably got rekt in the last thread too

>>84881072

Is gore in this or has he disappeared?

>>84881321
Yeah you'd rather buy into your other religion about a magical space wizard who shat out the universe

>said San Francisco would be inundated by now
>bought a $4M condo by Fisherman's Wharf

Really gets the ol' gears a-grindin'

Global Warming is a hoax, this has been proven by the fact that the "warming" has been on hiatus since the late 90s. Communists on the left are grasping at straws to get people into their globalist schemes.

Luckily we proved them wrong before leftists destroyed another industry like they did CFCs claiming they destroyed the Ozone.

>>84881665
>let me tell you what you think
>see you are just like this thing I hate

lovingeverylaugh

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>ayoo Al. Where do you want me to talk about climate change? Aiit cool. I'll be there tonight with my private jet. cya boo

>>84881665
>better to believe money hungry politicians and "scientists"
yeah i'd rather believe in flat earth or sky fairy at this point

>>84881072
New York and Los Angeles are supposed to be underwater right now. When will the mid west be free from the jews.

>Make a movie full of misrepresented facts and lies of omission that gets shit-on for being full of of misrepresented facts and lies of omission
>"LET'S MAKE A SEQUEL"

Brilliant move.

Who the fuck thought of this title, anyway? This has to be the worst title for a documentary I've seen.

why do ameridumbs deny climate change?
they'll usually accept sea acid levels rising due to human activity for example, but they cannot accept that the climate is getting warmer

not defending Al Gore, just asking

>>84881665
All that impotent rage

>>84881994
HVAC is the bedrock of American society

>>84881994
Because Gore had to go and turn it into a political football. People take up their sides, and supporters have to adhere to the party lines.

>>84881994
>but they cannot accept that the climate is getting warmer
Because it's getting warmer naturally.

>>84881994

>Why are Americans skeptical of the Kool-Aid I drink?

Probably because we still value discussion and skepticism instead of literally sending people to jail for saying/thinking the wrong thing.

>Dude, we have too many people we are DESTROYING THE PLANET!

>Dude, we don't have enough people so we have to IMPORT MILLIONS OF THIRD WORLD MIGRANTS IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.

So which is it? It can't be both. Make up your fucking minds.

>>84882260
Are we importing the migrants from Mars?

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>>84882260
>STOP HAVING BABIES IT WILL SAVE THE PLANET
>omg can you believe marcon said the problem with africa is women having 7 or 8 kids wtf

gets the nogging joggin

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>>84882356

No we have to import migrants into europe and the us or the economy is doomed

Also the world is doomed if people in europe and the us keep having babies

>>84882428
You should do your part then. How many kids do you have?

What we need is a good plague.

>>84882260
bait. you can't possibly be this retarded

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>>84882260
>>84882385
Wisdom from the Deep South...

>>84882648

>I won't give this proposed contradiction an explanation. Instead I'll just call him stupid. And I won't even bother to spell, type or punctuate properly while doing it.

Brilliant plan. I can see why nobody challenges you to debates.

>>84882197
The republican party of the United States is one of the only political parties in the entirety of modern nations that denies climate change. Im sure its because of reasonable skepticism and nothing to do with oil money.

Lets ignore that companies like Exxon aggressively fund anti climate change research ;:^)

>>84882845

>Lets ignore that companies like Exxon aggressively fund anti climate change research ;:^)

Exxon openly states one their website that they believe in "global warming" and are committed to "fighting" it.
But that contradicts your Bern-victim narrative so I guess that fact doesn't count.

ZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZ

This sounds boring as fuck. Stop beating us over the heads with it.

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>dude I'm just like you lmao now let me explain how these companies are bad nad untrustworthy but companies I have invested in are good and trustowrthy

>>84882918
>Exxon openly states they believe in global warming
How does this mean they did not fund anti shady research and climate denial groups to support their narrative you tard? Its becoming well known that they have been doing this for a long time, and why not when they are high incentives to?

>>84882726
try better bait next time, maybe some moron will actually fall for it then

>a whisker away from becoming President of the United States
>become a shitty, fake news documentary maker instead

Must fucking suck to be him

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Drumpf AmeriKKKa everybody.

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>>84882918
Oh well in that case im sure they have never done anything shady anon, I completely trust this corporation!

>>84881730
>communists

STOP IT YOU STUPID CUNT! You are throwing "It's da kamunists" at everything you disagree with. FOR FUCK SAKE, people like you should be banned from the internet.

>>84883011
Include age in that and its all blue as well my dude. Its about more than race.

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>>84883069
No it isn't

>>84881072
>An Inconvenient Jewish Trick: Lies to Sheckles.

>>84881072
>working at a theater
>slow-ass day
>old guy comes up
>"Excuse me sir, could I speak to your manager?"
>call up a manager
>"What's the issue?"
>"I was just wondering who authorized the LIBERAL PROPAGANDA trailer in front of The Beguiled?"

Conservatives are so damn tetchy.

>>84883062
>people like you should be banned from the internet
now thats what communist fuck like you would say. back to leftypol.

>>84881072
>muh America first
>world colapses
Thank you America!

>1980
>Florida will be underwater in 20 years, stop using hair spray!

>2006
>Florida will be underwater in 20 years, stop using fossil fuels!

>2017
>Florida will be underwater in 20 years, stop being a white male!

Will liberals ever stop being so easy to manipulate?

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But will they acknowledge this?

>>84881072
>Truth to Power
The delusion that these people live must live to actually think this of themselves is amazing.

>>84883103
>24537 respondents
lol can you site that source?

>>84881072
It'll be the same footage as the first one, except they'll overdub the year to 2030.

>>84883213
Fuck Trump and fuck "white" people baka!
https://news.vice.com/story/white-people-voted-to-elect-donald-trump

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>>84883145
Go back to your containment board pol.

Is there a list of "An Inconvenient Truth" predictions and whether they turned out to be true?

>>84881665
>implying criticizing all you lolSCIENCE! true believers equates to believing in "sky fairies"

>>84883125
kek, so glad wagie scum have to deal with shit like this

Don't forget your place wagie, the customer is ALWAYS right, and you're ALWAYS the wagie

>>84883103
Interestingly enough according to Pew research people whites without a degree were heavily skewed to Trump. So stupidity is a factor as well

>>84881994
Why don't you faggots preach to China, India, and developing countries, why is it always America.

>>84883256
>The exit poll isn’t perfect — in part because it relies on human survey-takers at pre-selected precincts. In 2012, for example, it significantly oversampled black voters. And little under one-fifth of the respondents to the poll were early and absentee voters this year, when early voting turnout is expected to record an unprecedented share
You can do better, poor show

>>84883316
Those same whites also made more money on average than white voters for Killary. So much for college education.

>>84883344
You're weclome to provade a more accurate poll with larger sample. I'll wait.

>>84883069
It's all about race. Why do you think they push so hard to get more nonwhites into the country? A white majority is the only thing stopping them from having a monopoly on votes.

>we're overpopulated! People are consuming too many resources!!!
>btw continue to send foreign aid to africa, thereby artifically increasing their birth rate unsustainably
>:^)

Not buying it anymore, if libshits want to be serious about climate change then I'm all ears but they're not

I'm not a denier. But I'm no partisan useful idiot either. There are problems with the premise.

When the temp rises, it's Global Warming and my taxes get raised to combat it.

When the temp declines, it's Climate change and my taxes get raised to combat it.

So the vaunted global climate analysis group that the last three presidents relied on said that global average temperatures did not change at all for ten year in the early 2000's (at bit longer iirc)

So if the temp goes up, down, or stays the same, my taxes go up because of it. Under what circumstances do those taxes go away? If it is still "an issue" when a decade goes by with no change then when is Global Warming by our hand over?

Answer: never. These taxes will never go away and thus the global Warming narrative will never go away even if we manage to stop it.

THAT's my problem with all this shit. Well, that and how annoying partisans are when they argue.

>>84883380
Not saying you are 100% wrong but that is a shitty source dude, im trying to help you. Pew research is way more well rounded, and based in national exit polls

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/

>>84883506
Help me with what?
a)Nobody almost nobody is gonna click your shitty link, whereas they're gonna see my picutres
b)your paper says the exact same thing as waht I posted above. Clinton did even worse with young voters than Obama. So much for "age division".

>>84883601
So you admit that your sited source is shit, but what matters is that you are getting attention, not the integrity of your data. Amazing. Go ahead and continue being retarded senpai

Not suprising considering: "Trump’s margin among whites without a college degree is the largest among any candidate in exit polls since 1980. Two-thirds (67%) of non-college whites backed Trump, compared with just 28% who supported Clinton" uneducated pleb ;)

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>>84883812
You got me. Here is the thing though. Nobody gives a shit about integrity(especially here of all places). A quick meme is 100 times better than a wall of text.
That doesn't mean my data isn't true. The study that you linked shows simular numbers to what I posted.

Im sure it will be a hit in China

>>84881649
Buttblasted faggot

>>84881665
*tips* truly you are enlightened by your own intelligence and not fat and insufferable

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>>84883183
>there is no evidence of climate change whatsoever t. conservatives
>okay well there is some evidence but we don't know if the earth is cooling or warming
>okay well it's warming but we're not sure if humans are causing it or if its natural causes
>okay well humans are causing it but to what EXTENT are they causing it?
>okay well a significant portion of it is by humans but does it even matter? will it do anything?
>okay well it has some effects of coastal regions and low elevation islands in the pacific but will it go farther?

Haha let's get more money from libtards who hate trump hahaha dude earth was dead by 2014 but obama save it so now it'll be dead by 2022 lmao

>>84881665

I'm atheist and I don't believe in climate change. Your move, you piece of shit

>>84883469
>Answer: never. These taxes will never go away and thus the global Warming narrative will never go away even if we manage to stop it.
Well, hey, on the uptick of the old death n' taxes thing, if global warming actually turns out to work as a positive feedback loop in our atmosphere, and everybody dies, you probably won't have to pay taxes anymore. Little silver lining to that storm cloud.

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>>84881740
>>84881762
>>84882040
>>84883291
>>84884081
>>84884308
u mad?

>>84883145
hes right though you sound like a fucking spazstick when you keep saying "COMMIES" all the time.

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>>84883316

dont forget stupid uneducated poor people who are failutres voting against their best interest

>>84884226
>/a/utist

Didn't read

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>>84884525
>doing the online equivalent of "lalala I can't hear you"

pretty sad senpai

>>84883062
Environmentalism is a sect of modern communism, especially in the first world. Since a communist revolution would fail, the communists aim to destroy industry. Basically if the government can't have the means of production, no one can.

>>84884480
>Shows persons with higher income voted Trump
>Assuming higher education=higher pay
>Only lower-earning persons voted in favor of Hillary
>Other graphs (unreliable sources cited) show mostly whites voted Trump
Now, I'm not saying there's some kind of precedence for what the data suggests...

>>84884446
>im not triggered i swear

>>84884697
>n=higher pay
>>Only lower-earnin

Republicans are by nature better, stronger and more intelligent.

Democrats and Libtards are all welfare leeching traitors.

>>84884839
>Democrats and Libtards are all welfare leeching traitors.

>now let me tell you about my rebel traitor confederate flag

>>84884308
This, the fact climate change has all the hallmarks of a religion is half the reason why I think Global warming is bullshit.

>>84884697

Generally higher income is associated with higher iq. Any dumbfuck can get a degree in gender studies or some other waste of money, but starting a business from scratch requires raw brain power and not a degree.

That graph is from the nytimes for anyone wondering.

>>84884896
Rebelling against a Tyrannical government is patriotism. Every democrat since FDR have been socialist Tyrants that should have been removed by force.

>>84884902

One of the bigger issues I see with combating global warming now is the technology isnt quite there.

Solar panels are about parity with conventional energy sources, but are showing substantial efficiency improvements each year (yeah a few percent is substantial in engineering). Ditto for things like batteries for electric cars. And then there are very promising technologies regarding carbon capture just starting to become practical.

If we blow billions on solar panels and subsidies for electric cars and the like now, we'll end up with ~20% efficient panels and kinda ok electric cars. But I think it would be better to invest a bit now in R&D to advance these things a bit more, then go absolutely crazy spending billions in 10ish years when solar panels are at ~50%, electric cars have the range and batteries down, ect.

Although the real best solution is nuclear, preferable an advanced breeder reactor, but because the vast majority of people have no real understanding of radiation other than 'its super bad' that wont happen in the US. This is one area China is getting things right, and they will probably end up building reactors for all of africa, south america, ect in a decade.

>>84885113
Solar Panels are a dumb investment. It takes 30+ years to get a return, but the panels have a lifespan of less than 10.

>>84884902
>fullretard.jpg

>>84884446
U literate?

>>84885229
Ad hominem, try again

>>84883335
Those places believe in climate change though.

>Sacrifice greater taxes to your government so that they can control the weather!
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

>>84881072
>literally says in the trailer "virtually every nation in the entire world agreed to get to zero greenhouse emissions"

...okay, so what do we need this movie for? why are you still jet-setting around the world?

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>>84885113
The amount of potential for technological progress lost as a result of multiculturalism is staggering. A solution to the demographic problem in the US would actually be a panacea.
Just think about how much aid we give to third world countries, how this exacerbates the problem by ballooning their population to unsustainable levels so they require more aid AND spill over into other countries.
Think about the high trust society we could have as a nation without these perverse incentives enabling outsiders to induce a tragedy of the commons.

Think of the anomie effecting so many of us (maybe even all of us here on 4chan). It is stultifying whole generations, sapping motivation, and causing the world to stagnate. Things can't go on like this. I only hope a solution makes itself known before we really descend into chaos.

>>84886005
>>84886005
Because china and India are the largest contributors to ""greenhouse emissions"" and they don't give a fuck because the only relationship between ""greenhouse gases"" and temperature is one where ""greenhouse gases" increase and decrease AFTER temperature.

Also how, per capita, their emissions couldn't get much lower, cheaply.

Also nice /pol/ thread on /tv/, good job mods.

>>84884452
t. leftypol

>>84886339
Also how china views the west telling them to reduce emissions as the west saying "hey yall, ya mind reverting to ah pre in dust ree all so cy et tee?? Dat would make things a lot cleaner for us!" A proposition any country would respond to with "fuck you."

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>>84881665
finally an authentic fedora after all this time

>>84883062
maybe if %100 of left leaning people would stop supporting every cringe cause like femen and greenpeace things would be different

>>84883316
a bit classist too much? would you talk like that to workers in third world country?

>>84881072
The sequel should be "An Unmentionable Truth" and discuss overpopulation and resource depletion. That's a truth that you can't even talk about.

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>>84881665
wew lad

>>84881665
>YOU DON'T LIKE X
>THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO BE Y
>IM BEING SILLLYYYY

>>84882428
In the end senpai, they just want to end you and your way of life and create a brown skinned slave race.

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>>84888261
You know why don't you? It's because that kind of thinking leads to other truths being discovered as well. There's a whole ball of lies that can be unraveled by pulling this thread.

>>84884627
>Environmentalism is a sect of modern communism, especially in the first world.

Oh Roosevelt and Nixon, those damn evil communists

>>84881994
Because ecology is literally about planifying economy, which is literally communism. I prefer watching the mankind dying than becoming communist.

Al Gore bought an 8.2 million dollar villa in Montecito which, if his own predictions are correct, will soon be underwater.

'Nuff said.

>>84890262
No, he bought it because when the water does rise, he'll have a ocean view property which are sold at premiums. So that $8.2M will become $15M.

>>84882197
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/15763074-story

How that working out for ya?

>>84890457

Why are newspaper comics such trash?

>>84890227
edgy

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What I don't get is this

>Okay Global Warning is a thing, we can't use fossil fuels
>IT'S A HOAX! IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY! BIG OIL!
>Wait, what? If fossil fuels, like oil, are said to be 'bad' then less people will use them. This will end up forcing the price down on oil. This means less profits for Big Oil. How does Big Oil gain out of this?
>B...By taxes for.. for... for renewable energy!
>But will that offset the loss they get from countries moving over to solar, wind, tidal or nuclear power?
>.....
>And another thing, isn't it a good thing we switch to renewable energy? After all, oil won't last forever and I highly doubt people will invest in technology to go and mine Jupiter of it's hydrocarbons.
>IT'S ALL A LIE THOUGH! IT'S A LIE! B-BIG OIL! Um... LIES! HOAX! JEWS!
>I fail to see the problem here. Man made or natural, isn't the result the same? Land based ice sheets melt, flow into the ocean, raise the levels thus flooding low land area as well as damaging vital water systems by diluting the salt water such as the Gulf Stream. Does it really matter what the problem, natural or man-made, is?
>JEWS! BIG OIL! TAXES! JEWS! HOAX! JEWS! ALL FAKE SCIENCE! JEWS!

You are all fucking retarded. Throw the whole climate change out the window for a second. Shouldn't sustainability be something to aim for ANYWAY? If it is natural and temperature rises anyway, shouldn't money that's gained through 'climate change' be invested into shoring up threatened areas? I mean, entire countries will be destroyed at some point. Isn't the whole argument how much mankind is CONTRIBUTING to the effect and how we're not technologically adept enough to prevent the devastation that happens, rather than whether it's natural or not? Isn't this whole "IT'S ALL NATURAL AND A LIE AND HOAX AND JEWS" completely missing the point? If it's natural, isn't that just as bad?

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>>84890227
It doesn't have to be that way. Perverse incentives have made it so but they can be dismantled.

>>84881072
More like Al Boring and Leonardo Retardo

>>84881072
What percentage of global warming is due to human activity and what percentage is due to natural climate change?

>>84890723
42% and 52 %

>>84890262
>'Nuff said.

Well, it's objectively false, so not really.

>>84890776
Source?

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>>84890682

If its man made the implication is that it will keep going up and up until we all die, and thus we must do something drastic before that irreversible 'tipping point' is hit

If it is natural then it is part of a cycle that has a hard peak and floor, aka it wont rise forever.

>>84882918
fucking idiot

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>climate change is a globalist hoax lmao

>>84890866
My fucking dick. bitch faggot

>>84890723
Less than 1% of it is natural. We have an annual emission rate of 29B tons of CO2. About 200M of it comes from volcanoes.

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>>84891024
The evidence is pretty clear that humans are accelerating climate change (see graph). Also, the threat of climate change is not to the planet as a whole. It's to us because we have built our cities in coastal areas and it disrupts agricultural areas.
t. actual climate scientist

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>>84881665
>being this butthurt

Faggot.

Remember when Al Gore sold his TV Network to Arab Oil Tycoons?

What a fucking hypocrite

>>84884902
>everything is a religion if I don't personally believe in it

Shouldn't you be watching your wife's son, Sargon?

>>84888261
>overpopulation

But that's just as much an environmentalist myth as climate change.

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>>84881665
>magical space wizard
why are redditors so embarrassing?

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>BUY MY CARBON CREDITS GOY
Not gonna fall for that scam you fucking limosine liberal swine

>implying anyone will stop developing countries from polluting
>implying Global Warming laws aren't just a regressive tax on the poor

Yeah it's real and it'll fuck the planet up eventually, but nothing will stop it. Might as well enjoy your car instead of sucking off Al "I Fly In Private Jets" Gore.

>>84881072
> bro we're going to sink by 2010 and the polar bears will be extinct

> believing anything this man says

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>>84890004
this. while we're here arguing about which side is right we make zero progress in fighting the real (((problem)))

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>>84881665

>>84890682
The dilemma is that the climate change lobby has become a problem all its own. It's a huge bureaucracy that eats up money without actually doing anything about the problem.
Even people who don't believe it's a hoax will be censored if their findings seem to downplay the apocalyptic rhetoric.
Kind of like how people who question a small part of the holocaust narrative for the sake of accuracy are demonized as holocaust deniers, even if they never once claimed that it didn't happen or wasn't a horrible atrocity.

I don't know the ins and outs of climate change. I would never argue that it's just a huge hoax without looking into it extremely deeply first. Based on what I do know of the issue, and on the way climate change agencies and lobbies have behaved, they seem to be protecting nothing but their own power.

Therefore, I consider the goal of bringing down the climate change lobby a noble one, and (knowing what we know about the ignorant masses) facts often simply aren't enough to get anything done. Swaying public opinion often requires deceptive rhetoric. This used to bother me quite a bit (it still does to a certain extent) but I've come to understand that rhetoric is simply a means to an end, and I think the rhetoric of global warming as a hoax may actually be a positive in the long run if it manages to take down the corrupt lobby built around it.

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>>84884902
>I'm a classical liberal xd!
>Even though Western civilization is based on religion, I'm going to equate it with the secular environmental substitutes that are trying to usurp it.

>>84881665
yes actually

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>>84881665
At least that one has proof.

>>84891664
science =/= politics
You can cry all you want about the politics of climate change and how corrupt they are, and I agree, but this doesn't invalidate the observable fact of man made climate change.

>>84891261
>>84891313

Do you have a scientific source explaining what percentage is due to humans?

>>84891801
I never said it did, it's just that I don't subscribe to slave morality so I don't like neglecting real life consequences in favor of abstract concepts. I'd rather consider both.

>>84892010
I'm not that guy. I don't claim to know the percentage. What is clear is how warming has accelerated.

>>84892097
I know, was talking to both of you. Do you have a source on the graph? I looked but I can't find it.

>>84892208
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/339/6124/1198
This is the source of the graph. It's from the supplementary data in that paper. It also gives you all of the proxies used in the reconstruction.

>>84892321
Thanks.

>>84892208
LOL uh bud, you do know that scientists get paid based on their results right? You don't get funded if you don't find anything. Of course global warming has to be man made, how else are they gonna pay their mortgages? You aren't going to find any real numbers, bud

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>(((science)))
>muh always showing just the last 100 years of data to scare the brainwashed zombies

global warming/climate change is an industry unto itself and they want worldwide "carbon taxes" on top of that. it is an insidious thing far beyond that even.

you won't understand wtf i'm talking about unless you look into these things for yourself. so, you can do that (takes effort)... or blindly continue to go along with their agenda. whatever.

did you know having ice cap is an anomaly? did you know that the earth has been ice cap free for ~90% of its existence? did you know by definition ice caps only exist during ice ages? did you know we are at the tail end of a CURRENT ice age now? did you know the caps extended as far down as missouri/kentucky just 20,000 years ago and have been receding ever since that peak? did you know the caps are going bye-bye even if every person on the planet disappeared 20,000 years ago?

THE OCEAN'S RELEASE *ALL ON ITS OWN* IS FAR LARGER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY *OUT ACCELERATING* MANS CONTRIBUTION

THE OCEAN IS RELEASING MORE DUE TO WARMER TEMPS (WARMER WATER = IT'S A FAR LESS EFFECTIVE C02 SINK)

IF HUMANS NEVER AROSE CO2 WOULD BE INCREASING AT ALMOST THE EXACT SAME RATE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW

THIS HAPPENS AT THE END OF EVERY ICE AGE

STOP BEING SO FUCKING GULLIBLE AND LAZY

LOOK INTO THINGS FOR YOURSELF AND STOP TAKING WHAT THE MSM, EPA.GOV AND NASA.GOV ETC. TELL YOU AT FACE VALUE, YOU LAZY SHITS. IT IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL.

ICE AGES AND PERMANENT ICE *ARE AN ANOMALY*

BY DEFINITION AN "ICE AGE" IS WHEN THE EARTH HAS PERMANENT ICE SHELVES

WE HAD ICE A MILE THINK IN CINCINNATI JUST 20,000 YEARS AGO

THE PLANET IS WARMING AND THE CAPS ARE METLING

THAT MEANS = MORE CO2, SEA RISE AND WEATHER PATTERN CHANGES

WE CAN'T STOP OR ALTER IT, WE WILL ADAPT JUST FINE

STOP BEING SCARED INTO TAX SCHEMES AND GLOBALIST POWER PLAYS YOU DUMBED DOWN ZOMBIES