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Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright

>>84864781
azor

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>starts a war for no good reason
>splits up his armies leaving them vulnerable in a region that should presumably be reinforced from 2 adjacent sides
>not only splits them up, but leaves a giant river in between them
>entire strategy revolves around dude burn shit lmao
>assumes that lords won't follow their liege lords just because he's scary or awesome or something
>falls for a simple ploy by a 15 year old
>can't even win decisively against a force he outnumbers that is composed almost entirely of infantry
>gets his shit constantly BTFO by the Brotherhood because of his retarded dude burn shit lmao tactics
>defeated in battle by fucking Edmure (who had a numerically inferior force)
>only real victory is smashing some cunts against a castle wall with a vastly superior army that he only got because Littlefinger handed it to him
>tells Tyrion to execute Littlefinger/Varys in the capital if there's even a hint of them plotting against him then proceeds to practically ignore them and let them fuck him over when he becomes Hand
>only legacy is his children who are retarded inbred and inbreeding mistakes, also a collapsing house
>everyone acts like he was a genius mastermind
Is Tywin Lannister the most overrated character in the series?

>>84864763
>being this upset that you got rused

>>84864801
You left out the cuckening

Azor Jaime

>>84864763
Based Jon's biggest fans thread

Thank you, OP

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>stannis is a meanie!
>he'd totally just burn his daughter alive, right? >yeah yeah that's it.
>lets get this meanie out of the story already.
>*high five*

They have such a deep literary understanding of this character.

>>84864801
literally half of these are straight up lies, or gross misinterpretations

>>84865010
The literary stannis was a cunt.
Should gave sided with robb and let him have the north and crushed the lannisters together.
Instead he let it all slip cause hes a cunt

>>84865010
On the plus side they're done ruining him.
Jaime still has 1 or 2 seasons of being ruiined.

>>84864801
I think, simply put, Robb was a better tactician than he was, though in the end he was a dumb kid who fucked himself and Tywin was there to make use of it

>>84864801
You forgot

>start the war with ZERO allies
>never actually get any, all allies acquired are through other people's actions
>start a war against three other houses and having no plan to prevent crown involvement

>>84865081
>Should gave sided with robb and let him have the north and crushed the lannisters together.

Or he could've sided with the Lannisters to crush the Stark together?
>b-but this false king is worse than that other false king!

Robb Stark took half of Westeros, Joffrey the other half.

>>84865113
>Tywin was there to make use of it
NOPE. Tywin did literally nothing to actually defeat Robb. Remember, the Red Wedding was conceived and planned by Roose and Walder. They just sent letters to Tywin asking if they'd support them afterwards and he said ok.

>>84865166
No I'm pretty sure Roose and Tywin had been corresponding for a while by the time of the Red Wedding

>>84865145
Why side with the family who cucked your brother? Yeah even better to show what a totally whiney cunt he is. Sulking in dragonstone like a bitch

>>84865166
literally no evidence of that, just speculation.
2 characters actually think it was Tywin, and this includes this own son (Blackfish/Jaime).

>>84865081
as the night's watch armorer says in a clash of kings, stannis was like a hard iron. unbending and brittle. That is the consistent foreshadowing of his character. He would be brought down by his inability to compromise for the kingdom. But what Dumb and Dumber did to his portrayal was unforgivable.

What's a good external hard drive to save shit onto when the show ends and I download all the episodes to avoid paying D&D?

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are you ready for it?

>>84865219
Tywin himself says it was Roose who started sending him letters, and Roose was betraying Robb since book 1.

>>84865245
Yeah, what a bitch
Won't accept letting a 14-year-old take half of his kingdom

>>84865245
>Why side with the family who cucked your brother?
Why side with the family who reject your authority and claim half of the continent for themselves?

Stannis should've sided with them before the KITN thing, yes. But after that, it wasn't possible anymore, unless either side wanted to be treacherous about it (pretend to be in good terms, then tell the other side to fuck off once Lannisters are gone).

>>84865010
I think the idea is that it's meant to be a story about a man who becomes so desperate and tragically wrong about his destiny he ends up destroying himself and his house in the attempt. A progression from honesty and duty driven to utter decimation due to his surroundings.

I wouldn't have minded it if they'd actually taken time to emphasise the utter calamity and hopelessness of Stannis's cause. Like rather than cheap bullshit like "half our army ran off", "20 good men etc" and we actually saw the cannibalism and the malnourished army, and the audience understood had to deal with the moral dilemma that he had to deal with; burn my only daughter or everyone dies, it would have been far more effective imo.

Has anyone heard a fucking logical explantation for book Varys actions in asoiaf in regards to Dany? It makes little sense to me. Dany's heritage(lemon trees aside) is viewed as indisputable by the people of Westeros. Her marrying Aegon would eradicate any doubts about Aegon's legitimacy, which the Lannisters and Martells both have demonstrated skepticism over. Why not kill Viserys and marry Aegon to her. Its not like the Dany we first meet in Pentos would put up a fight, shes a puppy. I'm I really supposed to assume Varys was going to throw her away to some horse lord so Aegon could play the hero against a Dothraki invasion? its a waste, especially considering the war of 5 kings was plenty enough to cause disablizaiton and have the small folk start loking for an alternate path.
Why, also, would Varys give Dany the eggs? Three dragon eggs are a powerful callback Aegon the Conquerer, why not keep them for Aegon. Did Varys really think Dany could hatch the things, if so he seemed pretty unconcerned with killing her before they hatched.

>Tywin's master stroke is him completely destroying his family's name and credibility to defeat a 15 year boy he outnumber ten to one

>>84865357
Martin is a hack and Dany's storyline makes the least amount of sense because it's the mostly badly effected by the books being stretched out hence now shit in AGOT is inconsistent with the latest shit.

>>84865304
You didn't disprove what I said

>>84865288
Why would Littlefinger bring down the wall?

>>84865440
to be king of the ashes

>>84865371
>to defeat a 15 year boy he outnumber ten to one
jesus Starkfags are in full force tonight.

Before the Tyrell alliance Tywin is OUTNUMBERED.

Robb had almost 20k, lost maybe 5k, but won more than 20k when he freed the riverlands.

Tywin didn't have that much.
>outnumber 10 to 1
So did Tywin have 400k? Or did Robb have like 3k?

Worth noting that Tywin losing any troop was terrible, given that at this time he thought he might have to face a siege by Stannis or Renly on top of that.

>Battle of the Bastards was supposed to be a well coordinated affair with cavalry charges, lines of battle, feints and flank maneuvers
>oops we ran out of time, fuck it just have everyone charge in and cause a moshpit
Bravo Crocodile DunDee

>>84865166
>>84865304
>Some wars are won with swords and lances, others with quill and ink

So I guess some wars are won by waiting for other people to use quill and ink to win the war for you? That's what Tywin was saying?

Why didn't he say "Some wars are won by waiting at the rookery and pray that someone wrote you a letter to win the war for you"?

>>84865440
Chaosh. Don't you know doing things for no reason is the height of strategic-mastermindism?

>>84865474
Are you mentally deficient? You're talking about shit pre-Blackwater. What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>>84865536
i feel bad for any sad sack of shit that learns politics from that guy

>>84865531
Yes, it was Roose's ink that won the war.

>>84865371
>completely destroying his family's name and credibility

Whether it's true or not, literally everyone says the RW is Frey's work. It doesn't do shit for the Lannister name.

How many people have said/done anything about the Lannister being so evil for orchestrating the RW, in the last 2 books? 0. No one cares.

IF someone was to do something, they'd do it against the Frey, believed responsible by everyone. Like the BWB might be planning.

>>84865664
Pretty sure the Blackfish might have mentioned it, but I get your point

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>>84865601
Don't be bitter when you get Mind-Tricked.

>>84848066
>just to let you know, starting tomorrow I'm going to roleplay as a convincing dany/sansa fan and general girl power fan. thanks x

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>>84865664
>Whether it's true or not, literally everyone says the RW is Frey's work.
Alright the shitposting has gotten out of hand, last post you get troll.

>"My lords may not know," said Qyburn, "but in the winesinks and pot shops of this city, there are those who suggest that the crown might have been somehow complicit in Lord Walder's crime."

>>84865613
It was unironically several hundred yards of flaming tent canvas that won the war.

>>84865752
No, it was Littlefinger arranging an alliance with the Tyrells that won the war. After that Robb was guaranteed to lose, the Red Wedding literally did not matter. I don't know why everyone focuses on it so much.

>>84865701
you're right, forgot about that. Still he didn't do much about it (not like he could).

That's another thing, none of the current (powerful) leaders have any shred of honor. The only ones who had some were Jon Arryn and Ned Stark. These 2 would have cared... But now?

The Tyrell are scheming assholes who'll do anything to rule, and are more than willing to kill the king they married into. The Vale... well, LF/Lysa, enough said. Dorne is either a mastermind scheming mass murderer, or a mentally challenged bore who doesn't do anything(depend if you believe theories or not). Stannis is kinda irrelevant at this point, but he wasn't that big about honor anwyay. Duty, Law, yes. Honor? Not so much. He did ponder burning his nephew alive because "the end justify the means".

99% of the people think the Frey are the biggest culprits, and even those who don't... Well, they probably don't care all that much because they've done equally bad things anyway.

>>84865836
Pretty sure the Northerners are very aware that the Boltons were behind the Red Wedding just as much as the Freys

>>84865751
"might have been complicit" is a hell of a long way from "orchestrated it".

And "drunk commoners" is a hell of a long way from "anyone who fucking matters".

Tyrion burned any house that was too close to the beach (to prevent Stannis from getting mats to use), Cersei threatened to break blacksmith's hand if they didn't work fast enough, Tyrion imposed a curfew and imposed death penalty to anyone caught in the street after the sunset...

What did these commoners do? Not a goddamn fucking thing. They threaten their LIFE and they don't lift a finger. What the hell do you think they'll do because "they might have been complicit in killing that lord I've never even seen in my entire life"? Nothing, that's what they'll do, that's what peasants always do when the lords do their shit. They whine&moan, but in the end they do whatever the high lords tell them to do.

where's my torrent niggers

/tpg/ and /who/ thinks they are better than us

http://www.strawpoll.me/13414449

>>84864801
Also fucks sloppy whore seconds his son has used many times ultimately which lead to his murder, even with his huge distaste and disgust of whores.

>>84866015
this is kind of a biased strawpoll, tho they might not get why...
99% of /got/ hate GoT, and probably 80% hate /got/ as well.

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>>84865288
D&D have Horse face kill the ultimate mastermind villain who is ultimately responsible for every little conflict in the story except for the white walkers for mah Gurl power! Go Sansa and Arya! Slay qweens!

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>>84866230
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>>84864763
My Lords, let us not discuss this here.

Come, to my private chambers, we will discuss HBO's hit series, Game of Thrones, whilst I am bathed and leeched

>>84864763
where the leaks at

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>>84866219
what about sam?

>>84866219
It should also have future bran puppeting current and past Bran

>>84866387
Sam is fat fuck George self-inserting into his own story. So he's the true puppeteer here!

>>84866387
you just[/spoiler know

>>84866309
up your mothers anus

How is Gendry gonna deal with the debt he's gonna inherit from Stannis lol

>>84866665
Bastards can't inherit gendryfag

Inb4 Jon, he was proclaimed king through D&D bullshit since they cut Robb's will

>>84866707
No shit which is why he's gonna need to be legitimised.

>>84866766
By literally whom. Sansa's acceptance of Jon could at least be argued as a form of legitimization by the Queen in the North, since as a bro, he'd be ahead of her in succession. Ain't nobody gonna legitimize Gendry. Roberts dead, Renly's dead, Cersei'd rather die, and Dany would, at the most, legitimize him in return for bending the knee and letting him only have a lordship over the storm lands. Jon has no authority to legitimize him, he makes no claims over the south.

>>84866865
>By literally whom
By Gilly, who will swear she read it 10k leagues from there. Everyone will be fine with it.

I mean no one questions Jon's resurrection, why would they question someone reading something in a bok?

>>84866865
>Dany would, at the most, legitimize him in return for bending the knee and letting him only have a lordship over the storm lands
You literally answered your own question.

>>84867023
the post
>>84866665
implied gentry would be king of Westeros, not a lord paramount

>>84867088
Nah the Baratheon claim to Royalty is finished.

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>only a few more days til Jonkino

Lads

>>84866309
>work on the show
>get to watch spoilers all day long
Seen shit up to episode 8 so far, small spoiler for the first episode Sam and Jora meet up and Jora gets his skin peeled off.

Why was it just kinda looked over that Margaery Tyrell was a pedophile?

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Thoughts on Cersei?

>>84867614
I don't understand how she can have power in this universe. She has no claim to the throne, murdered hundreds of innocent people and generally behaved like a crazy person. Isn't it likely that people would think that she went mad and killed Tommen herself?

It's just idiotic that she could hold power over anyone, even her own men, after she blew up her own uncle.

>>84868055
Tommen was poisoned by his enemies

>>84865793
>the red wedding did not matter
lmao yeah, dealing with insurgents fostered by a now eternally pissed off north totally doesn't matter

the red wedding was going to lead to the extermination of the lannisters whether they won the war or not, nobody liked them after that

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>>84868188
B-but Your Grace his face was smashed in and his torso imploded.

>>84868055
>>84868188
the sept of baelor was poisoned by its enemies desu

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kek

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The Game of Thrones audience

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>>84868322
nothing wrong with watching for best boy

>>84865440
To impress salsa and get a kiss.

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>>84868268
>>84868188
feudal succession was poisoned by its enemies

>>84865069
elaborate

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Leave Daenerys to me

>>84868268
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>>84868188
kek
is this the new /got/ meme6

>>84867614
Unironically one of my favourite characters. The finale of last season was amazing.

>>84867614
the most competent ruler we've seen so far

>>84868472
Even though its ridiculous, the cut with Qyburn in front of her during the coronation then stepping out of frame and we see her with the crown on, violent a-blaring, is probably my favorite shot of the season.

>>84868304
desu this is true. The leaks confirm Euron defeats Theon and Yara and captures the Sand Snakes

>>84867614
Is she joining the nights watch here

>>84865326
I watched the endjng of season 5 last night and it made me quite mad how they handled his character. Rushed, sloppy and contrived.

>>84868304
>Jaime and Theon will kill Euron

No, no, no, I wanted to see Euron become undisputed ruler after all the other players are dead. I wanted to see his coronation scene with him in his Valyrian steel armor sitting on a throne made out of Dany's dragons with his subjects saying "what is dead may never die", and the Greyjoy Kraken on the windows of the Red Keep.

>>84869308
He'll be king by Season 7 but Theon will kill him.

>>84869723
he'll die season 8 you fuck knuckle

>>84870025
No u

>>84869723
Is that confirmed? I mean we know about the alliance with Cersei and how Euron will propose marriage, but I never saw if they actually went through with it and made it official, or just focused on the war with Dany.

>>84870025
Yes? Which is why I said he'll be King by Season 7.

>>84870103
NO U!

>>84870118
I mean, they could just leave the plot open until the next season I guess but why would they

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>>84864763
Have ignored these threads since they started but finally /got/ around to watching the show and Stannis burns Shireen alive and gets no actual power/buff or shadow baby ghost thing that can cut through steel with the magic shadow knife right?
So why burn his daughter if he receives no benefit from it and half his army leaves?

>>84871005
It stops the blizzard and melts the snow.

>>84871005
This>>84871162
But also remember that Ramsay and his 20 goodmen did most of the damage

why do you even bother

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>>84871221
well that I can kinda understand if he picked the best of the best killers just doing a night mission during a blizzard but >>84871162
said he burned Shirreen for better weather which allowed the enemy to attack anyway while half his troops fucked off and lost his wife...it really is best not to think about the motives the writers have,hurts my brain to fathom this shit.

>>84871354
It would have been better if Stannis won, but then had to live with the fact that he burned his own daughter. D&D wanted to accelerate the story however. We can only hope Stannis wins the battle in the books, but he will probably still burn his daughter.

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>>84871487
well I would ask for a better deal than some clement fucking weather,this really pissed me off after he got an unstoppable killing shadow ghost before and all he had to do was fuck a hot red witch.
Hope you are right about the books but that fatty is going to die before he finishes at this rate.

>in some game
>people start asking game of thrones trivia in chat
>Complete "The man who passes the sentence..."?
>no one knew

How can you not know that... I mean come on, it's quite memorable. No wonder showfags don't see any plot holes on that show, literally don't pay any attention. Unless it's a big action scene, and then the only attention they give is to rate it on the HELLA FREAKING EPIC ranking.

fucking triggered

>>84871607
no one cares about poor old dead ned ;-;

>>84865113
that's simply obvious

>>84871607
>normies giving a shit about Ned
I don't know what you expected. They only liked because he was played by Sean Bean.

>tfw if Theon had taken the black before getting reeked he probably would've been the best archer in the NW, and one of the best rangers

If Ghost doesn't eat him that is.

>>84871766
>implying jon wouldn't kill him on day 1
how many times do we have to go over this?

Beric en Thoros deserves their own spin-off book/show, a story just like Dunk & Egg.

If you are one of the following, you are not welcome in /got/ and should leave immediately

>likes dany
>doesn't like Stannis
>doesn't like Victarion
>doesn't like Jaime
>likes any season apart from season 1
>is a "shipper"
>doesn't find melly attractive
>likes ADWD over AFFC
>Is a wikifag
>favorite character is Dany, Jon or Tyrion
>hates Davos and his chapters
>believes Coldhands is Benjen or Cersei/Jaime/Tyrion are Targs
>believes in the GNC
>defends Lysa and Catelyn's actions
>thinks show Red Wedding wasn't poorly directed and written
>browses westeros.org and/or /r/asoiaf
>thinks Sansa will turn into a "player"

>>84871836
>is a "shipper"
there goes /got/

>>84871836
Go fuck yourself

>>84871005
>fascist totalitarian regime had the most coerced audience

what did the alt right retard mean by this?

bran isn't stupid enough to go south of the with the night king's mark, right?

RIGHT?

>>84871952
think about your argument for a second lad and see how easy it would be to turn it back on you.
Hillary had to pay crowds to attend and could not fill a school gym while Trump had massive rallies.

>>84871836
Aaaaand? Please post more.

>>84871990
>massive rallies

>smallest inaguration turnout

LOL you suck trump dick too much that you even fall for this horseshit

>>84868055
yeah, her guards would have pretorian'd her a long time ago

>>84871836
what was wrong with the RW?

>>84872044
Because it's supposed to be a mother son tragedy but instead it turns into a romantic cliche with muh stronk wimmen talisa

>>84866865
>>84867023
>Dany would, at the most, legitimize him in return for bending the knee and letting him only have a lordship over the storm lands.

Legitimize a random peasant rival.claimant?

Lol no

>>84872044
Not enough roslyn bedding scene

>>84871005
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>>84872151
are you faggots trying to get /got/ banned?

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SLAY KWEEN

>>84871990

Hillary didn't send people to a death camp if they didn't cheer for her though

>>84872218
Jon hits dat when?

>>84872256
she paid them to cheer and whacked off a lot of people.

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>>84864763

Did anyone earn their victory in S6? It seemed like everyone just had shit roll up their lap from where I was sitting.

i want /pol/ to leave!

>>84871836
>>believes in the GNC
you mean, doesn't believe in the GNC

>>84871766
>tfw Jon would've went with Robb to war, they'd be the brothers of destruction. Jon would give Robb GOOD counsel, and they'd BTFO their mother back to winterfell, win the war and live happily ever after

>>84872465
>implying he'd listen to jon over her

>>84871836
Tyrion as Targ is Pleb
Twins as Targs is Patrician.

>>84872465
>Jon
>good counsel
Pick one. Bowen Marsh did everyone a favor. Shame it won't stick.

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>>84872151
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>>84871005

>>84872506
its different when you're with family than when you're surrounded by thieves, rapers, jealous knights and seventh sons

>>84872465
Hmm. If Jon goes with Robb he'd most certainly follow him into the western campaign, so when Bran and Rick die, the two would commiserate instead of pumping Jeyne. So presumable Frey would still be fine. Question is, would Robb marry Jon off to Gatehouse Ami? I'd assume with all that warring they could carve out a fief for a cadet house somewhere for Jon.

>>84872539
The Locke actor from got did a very good job portaying Hitler in the recent episode of Preacher,always liked the guy since Jolie's Tomb Raider .also saved

>>84872465
OK Robb, first of all, you need to send away Cat, Greatjon, Manderley's, Mormont's, and anyone who cares about you, or be a dick to them. That's step one, you can't have any friends, you're their king now, they have to come to resent you or be too far to help you. Step two is surrounding yourself with your enemies or people who are ambivalent about you. Now, the ambivalent ones are bound to ask questions or try to give you advice. When ever they do that be sure to tell them to fuck off in the haughtiest way possible without ever explaining your reasoning. Marrying Jeyne was a good move, but you need to proclaim someone who is green, unsuitable, and socially unacceptable as your heir. I'd suggest a southern ladyboy whore, but it's really up to your taste. Now, you need to try and argue with the riverlanders that #notallCleganemen...

Reminder that this is /tv/ - Television and Film, more specifically the /got/ - Game of Thrones General and so politics is only to be discussed in the context of Game of Thrones thank you and God bless.

>>84871836
nothing wrong with shipping. the problem lies in the quality of said shippings.

If it's gay it's wrong, if one of the character is jon/sansa/dany same thing.

>>84871966
depends where his camera skills are required.

>>84872568
>implying they wouldn't fuck and marry both of the westerling sisters instead

>>84872826
Roose manipulated Ramsay into killing him?

I guess this is on par with Sansa tricking LF into giving her to Ramsay as a broodmare.

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>>84872539

>>84872871
Dang. Puts the whole series in perspective. Whats the greatest #mindtrickmoment? Viserys getting himself crowned? Doran letting his bastard nieces kill him?

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why does it take 5 hours to download folder from google drive?

>>84869687
whats the issue? dudes

>>84872826
Ned should be under Littlefinger, and all the Lannisters. Really just put everyone involved in the war underneath Littlefinger.

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>>84867527
It's all OK when women do bad things.

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>>84873522
>varys under illyrio

>>84874172
not*

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GET HYPE

>>84865326
But we needed more time for sand snakes and the Missandie/GreyWorm love plot.

>>84867527
wasn't tommen aged up to like 13?

>>84868055
Um excuse me, the future is female.

>>84872920
>Doran letting his bastard nieces kill him?
Wouldn't he have had them searched for weapons before the meeting? It just makes no sense.

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this is what danny was supposed to look like.

not up for debate

>>84874540
>face like a 12 year old boy
"no"

>>84864763
"I looked for you, at Barnes and Noble," I said to them.
"We were not there," TWOW answered.
"Woe to D&D if we had been," said The She-Wolves of Winterfell.
“When Sansa's Agency fell, Alex Graves slew your subverted tropes with a golden fanfic sword, and I wondered where you were.”
“Far away,” TWOW said, “or GRRM's Masterpiece would yet sit the New York Times Bestseller List, and Bad Poosey would burn in seven hells.”
“I came down on the Public Library to find a release date,” I told them, “and GOT through ADWD and the first three Tales of Dunk and Egg were on the shelf, and all their graphic novelizations were on display. I was certain you would be among them.”
“Our release dates do not bend so easily,” said ADOS.
“Brian Cogman is fled to Hollywood, with a screenplay for Robert's Rebellion. I >thought you might have been adapted by him.”
“Brian Cogman is a good man and true,” said The She-Wolves of Winterfell.
“But not of the Books,” TWOW pointed out. “The Books do not come out.”
“Then or now,” said ADOS. He donned his Nice Catch.
“We swore a vow,” explained TWOW.
The book wraiths moved up beside me, with Morally Gray Characterization in hand. >They were seven against three.
“And now it begins,” said ADOS, the Conclusion to the Greatest Book Series Ever. He unsheathed his Bittersweet Ending and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with subtle nuance.
“No,” I said with sadness in my voice. “Now it ends.”

>>84874663
8/10, would masturbate again

The Mercy chapter is older than Arya.

Maisie Williams was born, became a child actress in the show, grew up to be an adult and will see the end of the show all within the period of the first book being published and now.

>>84874838
was Mercy written at the same time as the first book?

>bookfags STILL CRYING in the current year

>>84874857
>
the still unreleased Mercy chapter was one of the first chapters he wrote after ASoS, in ~2001, when the 5 years gap was still in place, and supposed to be released in AFFC.

Almost 17 years.

>>84866015

youre all faggots

>>84874891
oh ok I thought the 2nd line followed on from the first and you were saying the chapter was older than maisie

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>>84864763
Well, i'm done.
Fuck George and fuck these 2 retards. I'm not even going to bother watching, i'll read the fucking spoilers for the episodes so i don't change my mind later.

George had years to write his shitty book and finish the series. The memes have been fun /got/.

>>84874838
>>84874891
damn. weird perspective.

>tfw 17 years ago was 40 years ago

>>84866015
Doctor Who is unwatchable. Twin Peaks is unwatchable past S1. How do they have generals?

>>84867614
They better give some explanation as to why in the ever loving fuck she would be in a position to rule, and more importantly why anyone would follow her.

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Why does Cersei dress all in black? Is she goth?

>>84875042
>how does a show that has been running continuously for decades have enough content to sustain a general
hmmm

>>84875011
Just remember he was supposed to finish the series in 1998.

It was supposed to be A Game of Thrones in 1996, the second book in 1997 and A Time for Wolves in 1998 (not sure if that's the right name). Now, I'm gonna go ahead and admit that's an extremely optimistic plan, but it was still the original plan.

>>84875062
she's in mourning

>>84875057
apparently the Lannister army is still the strongest there is

>>84875087
Who pays for the Lannister army though?

>>84875087
>apparently the Lannister army is still the strongest there is
I think I remember Tywin saying that had 60,000 back in season 1/2 (which is like twice what they had in the books) so at least this is sort of consistent even if it is a bit silly.
>>84875104
The Westerlands lords?

>>84875104
Stuff like logistics will never, ever be answered in the show.

How did Dany manage to get enough food for her 100k dothrakis ( + horses ), 8k mercenaries and 12k unsullied to cross HALF THE FUCKING WORLD by boat?

>>84875087
She's not mourning. She didn't even give a fuck about Tommen dying. All the characters dress in black now because they reached the peak of their character development.

http://uproxx.com/tv/new-game-of-thrones-season-7-costumes/2/

“She’s still in mourning,” Clapton says of why Cersei opted for a broken-down tiara. “She’s lost all her children. It was a high price to pay for this crown.”

Clapton chose an unassuming silhouette for Cersei’s gowns, adding on layers of bead work and accessories to indicate the character’s fragile psyche.

“She uses this beading [as] this sense of power but it’s all quite brittle and it’s all an adornment. It’s not part of the dress,” Clapton explains. “She has a collar and she has these shoulder pieces, but they’re separate from the dress. Everything’s removable and I thought it was really important that her dress, the simple dress underneath is really uncluttered. She’s in mourning. She puts these things on to show strength but there’s a brittleness in that strength.”

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>>84875235
>tfw people wearing their house colours NEVER EVER

>>84875062
She's in mourning. I'm more concerned about her affinity for spikes and chains. I really want to know what was going through that handmaiden's head as she was dressing Cersei for the trail.

hello /got/ they told me I should come here to bully house tully, were they right?

>>84875273
>awww muh family traditions

Cry about it cuck.

>>84875011
It is just like that banner " I am almost enjoying my anger" just admit you and I are not that different and will watch it anyway?

>>84875362
/got/ is a tully bully free zone

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Casual who just finished S6 here, I have a few questions:
Did I miss the part where Doran was apparently despised by his people to the extent that even his own bodyguard didn't mind him getting shanked in front of him? Just because he didn't want to wage war over a legit trial by combat being lost?
How come Sansa didn't speak up about the reinforcements coming in the last battle? Even if she wasn't sure they were coming, the possibility would drastically change their situation. Was it really just so she could have a "badass" moment?
Also why did no one on Ramsay's side notice a giant fucking army wading through the north?
Why did no one give WunWun a tree to steamroll the Boltons with?
How come Cersei is now queen? Are we really supposed to believe she would be supported when she has no real claim on top of being a despised madwoman who just blew up the faith and most of her remaining family?
Can Yara just completely wipe out the Ironborn raiding and raping identity without any objections from her men?

>>84871836

reminder that bookfags belong in /lit/

>>84875280
>what is this? It's like 90 lbs of leather and metal
>the seamstress? tanner? whoever the fuck made this monstrosity is so going to get the whip when she figures out she can't move in this thing
>yeah, sure let's just slap on more metal on there, crazy fucking cunt
>dat collar tho
>the fuck am I supposed to do with this rock? wait, it's a ring? how is it a ring, it's literally a rock with a hole drilled though it
>top fucking kek
>I should have been a jeweler
>there, you're a real picture of innocence your grace. are you sure you don't want a long black cape and a scepter with a skull on top to go along with the dress? crazy bitch
>how many lizard lions are in that dress?
>also, I wonder if queen Margaery will have me after this one loses her head in an hour or so, provided she doesn't die of exertion first from dragging all leather and metal around
>tfw no knight bf

>Littlefinger and Varys spent their whole adulthood plotting to come to power
I can't wait until it all blows back in their faces once they realize the threat Beyond the Wall is real, its gonna be so funny.
There's no way in 7 hells that LF knows about it, nobody really does.

>>84871966
leaks say it doesnt matter
/got/tards btfo

>>84875545
you're thinking too much, you're not the target audience

>>84875392
you have 3 seconds to give me 1 good reasons why characters shouldn't wear clothes with colours that correspond to their house

>>84872389
because the entirety of season 6 was 95% pointless nonsensical filler, and the last 5% at the end were SPLOSIONS
they didnt have time to write the buildup where anyone actually earned what they got at the end

It's less than a week until GoT season premiere and you all know what it means - /got/ hype can start officially.

I hope you all have tremendous fun this meme season.

>>84875545

good questions that haven't been answered by the show yet (and probably will never be answered, except for Sansa/Littlefinger army). that's why season 6 is so shitty besides the massive heaps of fanservice.

>>84872548
hes never given good counsel, jontard.

>>84875595

Varys is going to wisen up quick (for da good of da realm)

>>84875667
Because people can just be themselves and not follow stupid family traditions? Do you know what individuality is?

>>84875545
>Did I miss the part where Doran was apparently despised by his people to the extent that even his own bodyguard didn't mind him getting shanked in front of him? Just because he didn't want to wage war over a legit trial by combat being lost?
No, those same guards were stopping Sand Snake's plot last season. Show just retconned it.
>How come Sansa didn't speak up about the reinforcements coming in the last battle?
Because they wanted things to look hopeless for Jon before he """suddenly""" gets rescued.
>Also why did no one on Ramsay's side notice a giant fucking army wading through the north?
Because they wanted things to look hopeless for Jon before he """suddenly""" gets rescued.
>Why did no one give WunWun a tree to steamroll the Boltons with?
Because they like the idea of Jon's guys being trapped between piles of bodies and Ramsey's men, and giving Wun Wun a tree would have made that impossible to pull off.
>How come Cersei is now queen?
Someone has to be, they don't want things to be too easy for Dany, otherwise it won't be dramatically satisfying.
>Can Yara just completely wipe out the Ironborn raiding and raping identity without any objections from her men?
Sure, if the writers want it to happen.

You're watching it wrong. You're supposed to just love Jon and Dany, and admire the explosions and horses crashing into each other.

>>84865927
Some are, like the North Clansmen and the Manderlys/Glovers. Anyone who knows the truth of the sack of Winterfell. Others probably only suspect it.

Could someone post the supposed leaks? Missed them.

How do you think normies will react to LF's death this season? I think even the most casual show watcher will realize how wasted his character was

>>84875727
>everyone being themselves leads to everyone wearing black and brown leather
right, why would anyone want to display any pride in their house.

>>84875628
>>84875694
>>84875738
Oh. Guess I didn't really miss anything after all.
The more I think about it the more questions pop up. It was never perfect, but I guess GoT has really turned into a "turn off your brain" show.

>>84874891
she's 20 you fucking dipshit

>>84875738
>Someone has to be, they don't want things to be too easy for Dany, otherwise it won't be dramatically satisfying.

So why not keep Tommen alive? It might be dramatically interesting if Dany invades and we like her but Tommen is also trying to be a good king (but with bad advisors) and we like him too

Makes the whole thing kind of morally grey

>>84875807
I'm talking about the character, retard

>>84875738

the knights of the veil smashing that phalanx looked pretty cool

>>84875813
Because it has to be good vs evil, god! It's as if you don't understand what the lowest common denominator wants to see.

>>84875850
>knights of the veil

>>84875779
Exactly, why would they? Family doesn't mean shit to most characters on this show. Especially Cersei.

>>84875874
>Family doesn't mean shit to most characters on this show
ok so you're baiting now

>>84875813

Are you kidding me? Dany is grums waifu. She's been getting built up since season 1 to reconquer Westeros with her dragons. Cersei needs to be the BIG BAD because there's no other way to justify Dany just coming in and fucking everything up.

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Is /ourguy/ coming back?

>>84875900
>grrm's waifu
>age is double digits
pick one

>>84875871
Hahaha...he doesn't know about the Vale....

>>84875919
He should marry Sansa honestly

>>84875919
If the leaks are anything to go by, this season is practically 100% meme crew and their supporters so I doubt it.

>>84875919
He is /ourguy/ how so?

Is there some deleted scene about him trying to lick Sansa's feet in her sleep at night?

>>84875899
It doesn't for some. For characters like Sansa and Arya it matters a lot but Cersei and others don't give a flying fuck about their family pride.

>>84875919
They'll probably make this guy the king of the Iron Throne for the common good.

>>84875545
>Did I miss...
What you misssed is that the show is now past the books so the showrunners are doign whatever the fuck they want, and they can't write a story that make any goddamn sense. Just "epic" battle scenes and "badass" moments/quotes for their favorite meme characters.

There's no explanation for just about everything you asked. It's just there to move the plot even if it doesn't make sense.

And the sansa shit, well she was absolutely retarded, but they probably intended for her to look cunning by that. They just can't write smart characters/smart actions that actually require cunning. LF is literally dumber than Hodor on the show, but they surely mean for him to be the smartest character, or 2nd after Tyrion the witty imp.

>>84875953
So the leaks say that Arya ruthlessly murder ALL of Walder Frey's sons... but I have to ask... why is this going to be in the show? So far as I remember in the show we only ever saw two Freys (oh and Fat Walda) other than Walder himself and she already killed them.

So aren't the Frey's done as a plot line? I don't think viewers will even know who these other Freys are. Is it really necessary to put more of them in the show just to demonize ALL of them? ENTIRE FAMILY IS EVIL AND SHOULD BE MURDERED! Or what?

It seems like such a scene will feel out of place because Fat Walda's death was portrayed as horrific and she never did anything to hurt anyone and was even nice to Sansa.

>>84875959
>Sansa and Arya
who will continue to wear the same dull black/brown shit (it made sense for arya though)
>Cersei doesn't care about her family pride
holy shit you are stupid everything she does is all about muh fierce lioness because she wants to be her daddy

>>84875667
because if they're not in black you won't remember they're now going full BADASS/ZERO FUCK GIVEN everytime you see them on the screen.

Daenerys: I will not beg that dog to open the gates, I will smash the gates. Give them one more warning, then we burn Winterfell to the ground. YAAS GURL

>>84876003
pure fanservice
they cut all of the 'good freys' anyway and didn't even have roslin cry

>>84876003
For the yaas kween points.

>>84875545
>Can Yara just completely wipe out the Ironborn raiding and raping identity without any objections from her men?
Are you questioning the power of female authority, you misogynist shitlord?

Yara and Dany only have to say "No more rapes and murders, you sillies!" and all ironborn&dothrakis will now be well-behaved citizens.

I mean Khal fucking Drogo tried to stop ONE dothrakis from raping (hell, not even from raping, just from raping A SPECIFIC GIRL, he told him to rape another one), and that dothraki dueled him to death.

But Drogo didn't have a vagina. Dany's vagina controls 100k dothrakis more than Drogo could kinda half-assedly control 1.

>>84876012
>who will continue to wear the same grey/dull brown
That IS Stark colors you fucking moron.

>he thinks Cersei gives a shit about Tywin

LMAO. She fucking resented him all her life what the fuck are you on about? She has no Lannister sigils on her dresses or on her Queen's Guard troops. It's just emblems of her crown. She literally doesn't care about her family traditions at all.

>>84876053
>Daenerys being at odds against Jon for a whole 2 sentences

Doubt it. They'll probably be best friends forever after "hey!".

>>84876094

nice memeing there but she literally burned the entire khal leadership alive, that portion of her story is the only thing they set up well

>>84876094
just to be devil's advocate, it does make sense that some of the ironborn would be sick of the raiding culture
they historically get fucked for it, have been forced to stop violently several times and recently the massive,costly conquest of the north was practically fruitless
it is absolutely ridiculous for the dothraki though

Cersei: Finally, I have become mastermind of strategic warfare. Do you see Jaime, we have enemies to the north, south, west and east. I propose that we distract the ones North, so we can crush Targaryens to the south with our newly developed siege warfare machinery by my Maester. I told you he was useful! It was about time that Westeros enter the high medieval era, these dragons made us do it.

>>84876138
the script literally says that they like each other from the start

>>84876140
if the show was decent it would show us the aftermath of letting loose a 100k dothraki horde on the Westerosi countryside, and the full extent of the carnage of Daenerys' conquest

>>84871836
>believes Coldhands is Benjen
Oh you and your outdated pasta.

>>84876152
>My Queen, I have devised the perfect weapon to bring down the dragons.
>A ballista?
>No, a GIANT ballista on wheels

>>84876003

So how could Aryas arc have been made better? I'll never get over Jaqen just letting her go. As >>84876085 astutely pointed out given the trajectory of the show she'd probably never get her revenge if D&D gave a shit about consistency.

>>84876201
If Arya is actually the waif in disguise

>>84876133
stark colours are white and grey you dipshit, that looks nothing like the dark shit they're wearing
and yes she resents him, but she wants to be same fear-inspiring type of ruler
Cersei is constantly talking herself up as a lannister, I don't know how you can think that she isn't prideful as fuck about her house

>>84876199
Implying that's not gunpowder in those giant ballistas. Fighting fire with fire, burning the house

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>>84874663
>When Sansa's Agency fell
Hey where did you find this? I wonder very much

>>84876238
we're all from reddit here, kiddo

>>84876201
>So how could Aryas arc have been made better?

She is captured by the Lannisters after the Hound 'dies' and gets sent North to marry Ramsay Bolton.

>>84876237
Probably because she isn't

>>84876237
Good actress playing an increasingly poor character.

>>84876256
We have our own /got/ version of that pasta, why wouldn't the redditor post that one then?

>Arya now can't cosplay as Walder Frey because the actor is dead IRL

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Let's say you were sent back in time to just before S5 premiere. How much in detail could you describe what happens in S5 and S6? Because I really couldn't tell too much unless I rewatched or read synopsis or something.

>>84876150
>just to be devil's advocate, it does make sense that some of the ironborn would be sick of the raiding culture
Said Ironborns were thrilled about Yarasha/Euron building a 1k large fleet to raid shit, at the kingsmoot. If the ironborns are tired of this shit, it wouldn't have been an enlightment between the kingsmoot and getting to Dany.

>>84876140
When Drogo died, what did the other dothraki do? They raised themselves khal, took the army for themselves, and kept doing what Drogo was doing.

They would just have killed Dany, fought to find a new khal/khals, and kept on living the dothraki way.

And reminder that it doesn't have to be a common accord. Dothrakis are archers, it only takes ONE dothraki out of the entire horde who doesn't believe that they should follow her, and she's dead.

This shit happened because in the books it's most likely Drogon who burns the shit out of them, and dothrakis follow strength always, they're not gonna fight a fucking dragon they can't kill that. But they could kill Dany tho.

They swapped that from Drogon to Dany burning them, because they wanted a womyn power, not to have all Dany's "wins" to be only 'dragon wins'.

>>84876307
I could if someone reminded me how each storyline ended in season 4.

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>>84876307
The kingsmoot goes like this :

>Theon tells the 20 men present to follow Asha because she's good
>Euron comes in, tells two cock jokes, and instantly rally the men to him
>Theon and Asha manage to steal half of Euron's fleet by the time they finish crowning him

Honestly, who would have believed it?

>>84876343
Disgusting pedophile motherfucker. I hope he's getting his intestines fucked out by demons while he rots in hell.

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>>84876390
I am wondering why are you here?

>>84871836
>thinks Sansa will turn into a "player"
Show or books? Because show Sansa definitely will/has (they're writing it badly but it's clearly supposed to be the case)

>>84876390
>I hope he's getting his intestines fucked out by demons while he rots in hell.
that's my fetish desu
(female demons, or at least futas).

>>84876379
Honestly, who even cares about the Ironborn in the show? What's the point? Never should have had any Ironborn characters besides Theon and Balon.

Theon should just joined the Watch after getting Sansa to the wall.

That or...

He is too emotionally damaged to survive on his own so Sansa keeps him as her bed warmer. He may have no dick, but he can still lick

>>84876390
In the books he actually wanted very young girls to pee and shit on him while they call him 'brave knight'. He even killed one girl that was like 12 years old because she couldn't pee at the time. It's pretty crazy

>>84876343
>Making him a pedophile just in case the target audience forgot why they were supposed to root for his death

BRAVO DND

>>84876426
>delusional anon asking normal people why they're here, believing this place is still filled with degenerate trash
Its not 2007 and its just you

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>>84876469
he doesn't have a dick so he's less than a man and also less than a woman, so sansa will go dominative over him and stick all sorts of stuff in his anus

>He may have no dick, but he can still lick

thanks for reminding me how triggered I'll be when No Worm gets that sweet Missandei puss

>>84876526
Hello I see this is your first /got/ thread! Don't worry I'm sure if you ask nicely one of the other anons will show you the ropes! chow!

>>84876586
I'm here since season 1. This is basically my main thread, at least in-season.

>>84876238
lol i thought the exact same thing. stopped reading immediately

>>84872826
I love how the bestgirl is missing

>>84876643
/got/ wasn't a thing until like season 3 or so, fag

>>84876678
meera is there anon

>>84876692
You have no idea. Season 3 and Red wedding was late GoT when it got super normie tier. It was a thing since season 2, but less frequently in season 1 too.

>>84876643
>at least in-season
Ah I've found the problem. How do you think this general sustaines its daily threads all year round? It's usually filled with borderline peado shit, waifu shit and crying bookfags like myself.

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>>84876733
That sounds alot like in-season /got/ too.

>>84876733
>all year round
>he forgot about the dead week back in march
it's like you're not even here every day

>>84875062
Trying to be like Sheev Palpatine Le Emperor

>>84876829
/got/'s been banned once or twice by the mods too over the years but we always persevere!

>>84876733
>bookfags
There hasn't been that many book fags in the last off season, and the off season before we were banned most of the year. Most book fags don't have enough energy to stick around unless the show is airing.
Most of us read the books but long have since stopped caring about them

>>84875654
Those fucking ugly jew trolls

>>84876678
who?

Why did Tywin fuck Shae though
Was he just a hpyocrite all along
Doesn't really fit his character though

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>>84875654
D&D the 2 ugly goblins jews

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>>84876966
>tfw went through a faze for about 2 years after the books I would spend all my free times on a forum of ice and fire posting and lapping up theories and just generally loving the books before slowly turning apathetic towards them and George.

That was 6 years ago.

>>84877117
don't worry friend, your love will soon be revitalised when Winds is announced
a-any day now

>>84877097
bc he's not a fag

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>>84877117
That was me except here and four years ago

PREMIERE TODAY LADS

>>84877097
because he isn't gay. also it was tyrions discretion and the fact that tyrion was a stand in. tywins a territorial man. don't fuck in his bed.

>>84877117
>>tfw went through a faze for about 2 years after the books I would spend all my free times on a forum of ice and fire posting and lapping up theories and just generally loving the books before slowly turning apathetic towards them and George.
That's probably the life-cycle of any book-fag.

>mfw there was actually a time when I probably knew all characters off by heart, and kept trying to push the book into my friends' hands

>>84877117
20 fucking years GEORGE! I believed in you you fat Fuck!

>>84877588
i really do feel sorry for the people who have been reading from the beginning
I guess I should count myself lucky that I only picked it up recently

Sansan next season?

>>84877633
I wasted my life on this shit. Don't you let it trap you. It's not worth it.

>>84877655
jon becomes king and commands sansa to marry bran

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>>84877710
I guess the Jonfag was right all along, he truly is Based Jon

>>84867498
>episode 8
>there's only 7 episodes

what did he mean by this?

>>84864801
>no good reason

The North kidnapped his heir, and then raised an army and began marching towards Kings Landing.

>due burn shit lmao

It worked though, didn't it? It sowed dissent among the Northern lords and ruined Robbs plan of cutting off his armies. If he wasn't burning shit, Edmure would have stayed inside the walls and Tywin's army would have been slaughtered.


Edmure had the defensive ground. Edmure had a river crossing to defend and walls to retreat to.

He doesn't get BTFO by the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood just attack small numbers of his soldiers and retreat into the Forrest.


>Dying house

Not even remotely true; there are hundreds of Lanniesters around, one of them is in line to be Lady of the Twins.

>>84865166
Tywin orchestrated the Red Wedding, tricked Ribb into fucking a Lannister puppet (Westerling), forced Jayne's mum to poison Jayne and kill Robb's heir, and drew Robb's men out so that Theon could take Winterfell.

new thread when

>>84871005
>authoritarian leader famed for killing political opponents and dissidents has a bigger crowd than divisive and democratically elected leaders

Certainly makes one ponder.

>>84875919
No Preston, /yourguy/ probably isn't coming back.

>20 men got into an army camp and manages to destroy all the army's siege equipement, kill off hundreds of horses and set fire to a shit ton of food camps
>commander of the army asks how that is humanly possible with all the guards, etc.
>"lmao the north knows their lands and stuff"

fucking D&D writing

>>84877776
>lannisport fuckin shits and other cadet lines
>Lannisters

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>>84878045
you are doing this again with the same fucking comment that made you lose and got the comment deleted you dumb fucking liberal twat?
fuck you CTR/shareblue nigger.
this snake was thirstier than you you paid shill cunt.
use 4chanx and you can see the OG comments lads...ffs mods do your job.

>>84877710
Hasn't bran suffered enough

>>84876478
what? that isn't in the books at all you weirdo.

Do you think they know how to flavor blast food in Westeros?

Also new thread when? I can't do it

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