Why are we stuck with this template?

>>84847612
Name 3 that do this

>>84847612
Because retards keep using it, reinforcing the belief that that is all there is.

>>84847612
What else would you suggest for a hero's journey?

Because they represent the stages of enlightenment you will need to undergo to escape life in this cosmic hellscape

the allfather inthe sky dictated it when he created the universe so many millenials ago

>>84847683
Nolan's Batman 1-2-3

>>84847683
Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Justice League (one large arc)

it's engraved in almost every mythology of the world, all the stories we read/watch have been told thousands of years ago
it's enough for the wide masses, you think of something better cunt

>>84847683
Shrek, Dollars trilogy, Interstellar.

I'd really like to tell a couple that DON'T use it, though I wouldn't promise that I'd could complete this task.

>>84847799
>you think of something better cunt
>>84847741
>What else would you suggest for a hero's journey?
See I'm not a professional Hollywood writer paid millions to write innovative and original script.

>>84847612
because there's nothing wrong with it

>>84847761
This. Couldn't have said it better.
>>84847799
This as well.

>>84847897
You can still write an original script while using a traditional story structure though.

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GIRUGAMESH
sorry... I mean Gilgamesh

>>84847741
The same thing only following the chart counter-clockwise
>inb4 watchmen

>>84847683
>>84847612
>implying
it's been like this since the beginning of history
the earliest of which probably being the epic of gilgamesh

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>>84847897
>Hollywood writer
>paid millions to write innovative and original script.
>innovative and original script

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>>84847761
where do I get some supernatural aid, then?

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>>84847612
It werks

>>84847683
star wars, eragon, lotr

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>>84847612
is worst than that: they actually have minute-by-minute rules for what a hollywood blockbuster is supposed to be

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>>84848368
transmute your base sexual energies into a body of light

>>84847612
hardwired into our consciousness

>>84849479
Interesting. How do I do that?

>Abyss - Death & Rebirth

When does this happen in any movie?

>>84850472
It doesn't have to be literal dumbass. Almost every movie has that moment where the hero loses hope or is in a situation you don't think they can escape but then they come out of it stronger than before.

>>84850472
Metaphorical death I suppose. Death of old character for new version to born.
In Shrek when he decides to interrupt the wedding and claim Fiona to himself one can say that the old comfy swamp Shrek is dead.

>>84847897
>You have to be a Hollywood writer to innovate on a story structure older than society.

>>84850559
I would say the "death" is his return to the swamp when he's lost all reason to live, and his "rebirth" is when he decides to man up and stop the wedding.

>>84850600
I think he means, why bother doing it for free on an anonymous online Japanese cartoon image board.

>>84850616
Right, exactly. Solid example of pretty much zealous following the template yet a fun movie.

>>84847796
Batman only fits like half of that chart.

>>84847612
This is one of those theories that everyone thinks is universal because they distort everything to fit. It's like dragons.
>Dude it's a big snake. Dragon!
>Dude it's a big lizard. That's kind of like a snake. Dragon.
>Dude it's a big fish. That's practically a snake. Dragon
>Dude it's a big horse, with scales, sort of. Dragon.

People cite something as a hero's journey if it has no threshold, no mentor, no redemption, no abyss. People say it's a hero's journey if anyone changes in any even remotely positive way.

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>>84847612
I am amazed how well it describes The Wizard of Oz, even though it came out before the book describing the hero's journey.

>>84850559
>>84850616
>>84850708
Who is Shrek's mentor and what is his temptation? And didn't his helper (Donkey) come before the threshold?

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>>84847612
Campbell is a poor mans Vonnegut.

>>84847612
George Lucas used it for Star Wars. The jews at Disney think it's the formula for free gold. JJ Abrams and Kasdan applied this template like it was a blueprint to build IKEA furniture. these guys are mongoloids. You can tell what happens in the next frame of every scene in Force Awakens.

>>84847683
the matrix, men in black, star wars

>>84847842
I don't remember any supernatural aid in any of the dollars trilogy or mentor characters for that matter

>>84847612
because it's archetypical

Humans like change. They can notice change. You have small ups and down in the beginning then at the climax, they experience their greatest down followed by their greatest up. For an effective film, you NEED this because it's the greatest way to maximize instinctual human emotions.

>>84851990
But none of them "return". They're all still off in an unending adventure or their old way of life is permanently shattered

>>84849712
Tantra
Virya
Ojas

>>84847683
game of thrones with jon snow.