Why did they stop the baptism? Aren't all Christians baptized?

>>84761865
not all denominations baptize at the same age

>>84761865
I thought it was just a Catholic thing, because they believe in original sin.

they both go to the same church though

because flanders doesn't have the right to baptise bart

>>84761948
nah I was baptized at a Christian church

>>84761865
yo why you so rude?

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>5 minutes into frozen and chill she gives you this look

wat do?

>>84761865
You have to make a conscious choice to be baptised, not be coerced into it

>>84761865

Because there are 2 kinds of religious people in America. There's the 70% that go to church because it's a nice thing to do (Simpsons) and then there's the religious nuts who actually believe the stuff and all the magic rituals (the flandereses).

>>84762334
Among the stupidest things I've seen on this website.

>>84762353
i think i want to eat you alive

>>84762353
That explains why the Simpsons didn't baptize their kids but not why Homer would he opposed to baptism.

>>84761865
because Bart and Homer are immoral and malicious, and baptism is exclusively for godly people

>>84761865
Because it's an important thing and kids can't make that choice and parents shouldn't make hard choices for their kids.

This is why they should also give them no names and wait for them to pick the one they want, same for everything else.

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this episode was made by people who have no concept of what babtism is or what it's supposed to mean. I'm pretty sure suzie dietter mentions that in the commentary. Great episode btw.

>>84761865
It was something Flanders didn't have the right to do. He was trying to make the kids part of their family and that went to far. They even make it more explicit when he reads from "The Flanders' family bible"

>>84762680
Television writers routinely get basic stuff about Christianity wrong. Its particularly noticeable when it comes to differences between Protestantism and Catholicism, things which members of either group would consider obvious or even faith-defining. Its almost as if writers are coming at it from an (((outside perspective))).

>>84761948
Baptists obviously do it too, but in their view it's more of a one time hail marry rebirth thing.

>>84762623
That's retarded

>>84762842
babtists do it as a symbolic gesture because Jesus did. It's not something that really matters beyond that.

>>84762623
>all authority is evil, even biological defined authority
this is probably bait, but honestly, has the "Enlightenment" contempt for authority figures extended so far we view natural parental dominance through relativism as well.

>>84762126
>catholic isn't a christian denomination
yeah, all right

>>84762623
>This is why they should also give them no names and wait for them to pick the one they want, same for everything else.

You forgot to include gender in your trolling.

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>>84761865
>Homer screaming in pain when the water poured on him

>>84761948
There was an episode where Bart and Homer decided to become Catholic (which sucked complete ass by the way), so I don't think they're Catholic per se.

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>>84761865
Formerly Rev Lovejoy.

>>84762391
>why Homer would he opposed to baptism.
He haets flanders

>>84761948
>I thought it was just a Catholic thing, because they believe in original sin.

Its a Christian thing....literally, Jesus was baptized for fucks sake.

>>84761925

When do most protestants do though? Here in Orthodox land we do it when we are babies. Cos we naked.

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>open bible
>first chapter
>a talking snake
people DIED over this shit

>>84762815
Yeah. It's sort of like how Scientology is portrayed, and I think the problem is that normal human brains can't make sense of dumb cult bullshit 8=======D~~~~ (__(___)
PS that's a dingdong cumming into your butthole you fag

>>84762391
>>84761865
You just don't baptize the kids from someone else. It's like Cucking of the soul.

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>>84764031
>there is no snake in chapter 1
>"Skeptical" "fact based" "educated" atheists will believe anything without question if it confirms their biases.

You can't make this shit up.

>>84764138
But that's the whole point of godparents.

>>84764169
And Homer never told Flanders to be Bart's godparent.

>>84764151

>This man is a JEW

Should be corrected

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>>84764151
dude, THIS is what atheists actually believe

>>84764073
>scientology has had the same cultural impact as christianity
Its ubiquity aside, the differences between mainline sects of christianity were a major factor in western history, effecting the political landscape for a good five centuries. It betrays an exceedingly poor understanding of history to not even know basic differences concerning things like Papal Supremacy.

>>84764200
What the fuck is that?

My perspecitve is just that religion has a purpose to give some moral guidelines and have metaphors. The problem is that some of these guidelines in some religions are bat shit insane.

>>84764200

we wuz ayy lmaos n shit

>>84764255
>utilitarianism
disgusting. Its literally the poor man's moral relativism.

>"Oh Bartholomew, I feel like St. Augustine of Hippo after his conversion by Ambrose of Milan."

kek

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>>84764271
>divine command theory

>>84764303
>Substituting truth for efficacy for truth for efficacy for truth for efficacy for truth for efficacy for truth for efficacy........

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>>84764489
>divine command theory

>>84762815
>it's a jooos guize
Writers have to write funny stereotypes into the show. Of course assblasted christfags need to be upset when their religion gets ridiculed. Also American religious groups are like a caricature compared to real religious groups.
t. roman catholete

>>84764617
I am a Catholic. What are you talking about? The post isn't even about the ridiculing of christianity. Its about the fact that christianity as portrayed in hollywood is some sort of weird amalgamation in which evangelical christians in the boondocks are saying Hail Mary's and decorating their homes with icons and Catholics Priests are running televangelist programing from nondenominational church buildings. Its an understanding so shoddy and out of touch that betray not merely a secular upbringing, in which even the basic tenants of christian sects would be encountered, but one that must necessarily be of a differing faith.

baptising children is such bullshit, it only exists because Christians from times gone by were afraid of their kids dying early and going to hell

>muh magic water ceremony

in fact, baptism IN GENERAL is such bullshit

>>84761865
Homer was a devout Sneedtologist (Formerly the Church of Chuck).

>>84764765
>boo hoo muh secular media isn't inclusive enough
>muh misinterpretation of minority groups
Are you part of the right wing SJWs?

>>84764821
I agree. There is no place in this world for symbolism and ceremony. No place I say.

>>84765239
Symbolism rooted in belief in the supernatural is indeed useless shit that should be disposed of.

>>84765239
Problem is, most people are too dumb to realize it's nothing more than symbolism and follow religion to a T.

>>84765329
>most people

Don't be retarded, you know that's not true.

>>84765322
Does people pouring water on their baby surrounded by family and friends bother you that much?

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Is this Simpkino?

>>84765239
"christians" don't take it as "symbol and ceremony"

thats the thing with "christians", it is "symbol and ceremony" when you challenge them on it. when you leave it be they start claiming that they cannabalise their god every sunday and that a man died and got back up again 2000 yrs ago

>christian """""""people"""""""

>>84764196
Who else is he gonna pick?

>>84765357
I watched Hurricane Neddy the other day. There's barely any laughs after the first 10 minutes. It actually becomes really dull.

>>84762063
Anyone can baptize its not a thing that only a priest or minister could do.
It was weird that the Simpson go to church every Sunday but their kids aren't baptized.
Old Painty Can Ned wasn't the bad guy here

>>84765884
not weird at all babtism is not a requirement of any denomination that I know of, especially of children 10 and under

>>84765413
>thats the thing with "christians", it is "symbol and ceremony" when you challenge them on it
Nope. Not everyone is a cultural christian.

>>84764617
Found the Episcopalian. Oh wait, I mean Jew.

>>84766788
There's a difference?

>>84761865
Homer didn't want it to be done by Flanders.

>>84761925
they go to the same church though.

>>84764821
>>84762353
>I called it magic therefore it's bullshit

God magic is no different than cheat codes. There's nothing automatically bullshit about it.

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>>84765322
>belief in the supernatural is indeed useless shit that should be disposed of

Astronomy is super natural as far as the earth is concerned and indeed "useless shit" so should it be disposed of too?

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>>84761865
Because it's stupid. I wouldn't want my kids, if I get any, being a part of stupid shit too.

>>84764617
You realize that America has more Catholics than anywhere in the world except Brazil and Mexico, right?

>>84767471
The Catholic Church played a major role in preserving knowledge that would have otherwise been lost, and the Renaissance was kickstarted by Orthodox monks reintroducing previously lost manuscripts to Italy (as well as translating Arabic and Persian texts). The "Christianity=dark ages of scientific repression" thing was just a joke in a cartoon but somehow people keep reposting it as though it means something.

>>84764765
>that episode they join a cult
>Lovejoy says they're going to say the Lord's Prayer 40 times in a row
I still don't get how they can get such basic things wrong when Groening went to a school run by nuns. It's not it was made in Japan or somewhere where Christianity is a foreign concept none of the staff have encountered in real life before.

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>>84763915

>>84764966
underrated

>>84767471
>scientific repression

Hopefully in the future we'll find a cure for autism so we'll have far less fedoras spouting stupid shit about things they don't liek.

>>84762063
if someone took your son and daughter to a river to have them baptized you wouldn't react?

>>84767471
You are a shill.

Without religion we would be fighting with bare hands while trying to assert dominance to fuck as many females as possible like tribal niggers.

>>84767761

keeping traditions for the sake of keeping traditions would have kept us in caves forever.

>>84764966
>Snurch of Sneed

>>84765357
>And if you really tick me off, I'm gonna run you down with my car
Flanderskino.

>>84767663
>people still think the dark ages were bad times when kings and priests did really bad shit
>not knowing they're called that because we're missing a ton of historical records from that period and therefore "in the dark"
Still annoys me.

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>>84764151
Atheist don't check facts on fictional stories... meanwhile theist believe ficiton to be factual.

>>84767663
And if Christianity had never been let into Europe and forced down the throats of everyone who didn't want it there would be no need for the Church to ""preserve""(see: taking ancient scrolls and writing more bible shit on them) them. Why? Because people would have kept going off their own culture and beliefs not those of a group of pissed off Jews from the Middle-East. Europe would have prospered infinitely more without Christianity putting a dampener on Europeans.

>>84767921
t. virgin who thinks he'd be having roman style orgies if it wasn't for Christianity "fucking up" the world

>>84767921
The church preserved a ton of Roman and Greek literature as well that would otherwise be lost to time.

>forced down the throats of everyone
Not every country had to be crusaded into accepting Christianity. Some adopted it voluntarily and embraced it wholeheartedly.

>>84767921
>Europe would have prospered infinitely more without Christianity putting a dampener on Europeans.

Rome fell on it's own.

>pissed off Jews from the Middle-East

lol wut?

>forced down the throats of everyone who didn't want it

Christianity isn't Islam dude. Stop projecting your own childhood "trauma" of being dragged to church.

>>84768069
people converting to christianity and refusing to join the army forcing romans to use mercenaries and other questionable people is one of the reason of the fall of their empire

>>84767862
>I don't like it therefore it's fiction

Just like every holocaust denier, antivaxxer, and climate change hoaxer.

>>84768096
The empire was alrady collapsing before, if anything christianity delayed it by a couple centuries, the emancipation of slaves and the usage of mercenaries in warfare similarly started long before the christian came.
I'm not christian and don't care much for religion but you are either unneducated or a liar.

>>84768009
Epic.

>>84768039
Why would it have been lost to time when the people of those places were already living with that knowledge and literature etc.?
And no not everyone had to have it forced on them, but many did. And a lot of true European places were torn down, holy sites and whatnot. The Romans didn't do that when they went to Gaul and further, they respected those places because they saw those religions as their own but just different names. Christianity and Christians wanted to destroy all that so they were the only ones in charge.

>>84768069
What does Rome falling have to do with this?

>lol wut?
Epic. I'm saying the first Christians were basically pissed off Jews, which they were. Similarly the first Muslims based part of their religion on the ancient Middle-Eastern religions.

>Christianity isn't Islam dude. Stop projecting your own childhood "trauma" of being dragged to church.
Christianity is Islam and Judaism. Stop thinking that just because you grew up surrounded by Christianity it makes it real.

All of this is such basic shit, no wonder edgy contrarians can't stop for one second and think.

>>84768096
It's a contributing factor but there were much bigger problems.
>constant civil wars over who got to be emperor
>invading tribes from the east
>giving citizenship to everyone living within Roman borders meaning no one has any reason to join the army to gain citizenship
Besides, Eastern Rome managed to survive for another thousand years despite being heavily Christian.

>>84768229
>a lot of true European places were torn down, holy sites and whatnot
Nothing was torn down. Temples were closed and left to decay but nothing was destroyed.

>The Romans didn't do that when they went to Gaul and further, they respected those places because they saw those religions as their own but just different names
HAHAHA, no. Did you miss the part when they banned human sacrifice because they felt it was barbaric? Or how about the slaughtering of all those druids? Remember when they burned down those holy forests in Britain?

Stop LARPing.

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>>84768229
>Christianity is Islam and Judaism

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>>84767850
And who do you think destroyed those records?

>>84768229
>What does Rome falling have to do with this?

Rome fell and died. There was no Europe besides Christian Europe.

>>84763945
I'm a Baptist and we get baptised when you decide to.

>>84768394
Germans, Vandals, Goths, Huns and maybe Arabs.

>>84764300
>Wait, Homer. What did you just say?

>>84763945
Protestants are the ones that vary it up, some are pedobaptists, some are credobaptists, and a couple are anabaptists and therefore retarded.

>>84768419
That would make sense as that is literally what defines the baptist movement, the opposition to pedobaptism.

>>84768346
>Nothing was torn down. Temples were closed and left to decay but nothing was destroyed.
they literally destroyed and replaced roman temples with churches, same happened to Nero's tomb

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>>84768394
>unironically posting this image

I hope to god you're a troll.

>>84768433
>Arabs
Arabs were the ones who preserved much of the knowledge from the pre-dark ages.

>>84768394
>>84768528
It's been so long since I've seen this without the Fenno-Korean Hyper War.

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>>84768346
>Nothing was torn down.
Hahahahaha, holy kek, learn your history.

>Did you miss the part when they banned human sacrifice because they felt it was barbaric? Or how about the slaughtering of all those druids? Remember when they burned down those holy forests in Britain?
Yeah it's almost as if they were trying to deal with a bunch of rebellious barbarians. But they didn't tear everything down, that was the Christians. Just because they fucked their shit up it doesn't mean they didn't see parallels to their own religion and know the barbarians had something that was part of the "same" as their own.

>Stop LARPing.
How ironic. Are you American? Would explain why you cling to Christianity this hard.

>>84768363
Judaism was formed based on ancient semitic nomadic religions. Then Christianity was formed by Jews who did not want to follow the old strict rules of Judaism. Then Islam was formed by Arabs based on the Bible and Torah but influenced by the polytheistic Middle-Eastern religion.

>>84768396
>Europe had nothing before Christian Europe
>what are the Greeks
>what are the Romans
How about you go kill yourself you absolute retard.

>>84768538
But unlike in Europe, which was flooding with illiterate savages, the middle east was still developed. For example if the Arabs never came to Persia, it's not like Persian knowledge would disappear. They preserved knowledge but that knowledge would've been preserved without them anyways.
Though in fairness to them the Arabs weren't nearly as bad for destroying records (Library of Alexandria aside) as a lot of other people.

>>84768695
Jesus Christ calm down Varg.

>>84768737
>address 3 posts in 1 post so it becomes a long one
>"f-fuck, c-calm down dude l-lol"
Are you new?

>>84767761

>shill

I don't think you know what that word means

>>84761865
lol the whole idea of original sin is so stupid, i cant believe people actually believes it. madness.

>>84768039
>that would otherwise be lost to time.

You can't prove that

>>84768891
Yeah there's absolutely no possible way the Greeks would have wanted to save all the work of their ancestors, no no, only reason they sort of attempted to do that was because Christianity told them to do it.

What was the last Flanders episode?? I can't think of it.

They should make one for this next season.

I could use another Ralph episode too.

>>84764200
>implying reptilians aren't the true earthlings
>implying we weren't created by Adam & Eve, the two ET's as an experiment
kek, ged educated son

>>84768702
They're the reason Europe became as powerful as it was. The Mongolians began to march across Asia and all the scholars from that region headed west with all their texts as to not be killed by Mongolians. The Renaissance happened because Europeans were once again exposed to the works of the ancient Greeks as well as the new thing to them being algebra.

>>84769006
Ralph has become retarded beyond measure. I saw one clip where he sees electrical wires and just bites into them. He's the last character to have an episode dedicated to them now.

>>84765670
lenny

>>84764151
this right here is why i stopped being a "humanitarian" atheist and became a cultural christian/pagan

>>84768117
>literature written thousands of years ago and also decades after the events that had taken place within it as means to relay morals and lessons to live by should be taken as historical fact even though most of it lacks any form of real evidence to show it actually happened. Yes there's historical figures and cities within the text, but that doesn't mean it's true.

>all your examples have been proven true or false through research and actual physical evidence. They're only "questioned" because it contradicts the feelings of some people who cannot accept the actual truth.

>>84764151
I hate this meme pic so much. You can tell the author behind it literally did dick all for research just so they could "debunk" the points. Now I'm not saying everything they criticize on that pic is wrong (most of the Horus bullshit is spot on) but when you only have 1 source for each claim and act like King Fuck of Shit Mountain, you really show how piss poor your efforts really are. FFS, the Church took the Dec 25 Bday of Mithra so they could get pagans on board. Even my Catholic friends admit to that

Zeitgeist is ass. Would recommend reading The History of the World series by Will Durant if you want a starting point for the influences Jesus got. Would especially recommend looking into Zoroaster and his religion.

>>84762363
This guy goes and baptism-rapes kids.

>>84762815
>>84764617
Wheres the episode where homer saves bart from evil Jews?

>>84767471
THat is one of the most ignorant Jokes I have ever read.

>>84761865
No.

>>84771019
>FFS, the Church took the Dec 25 Bday of Mithra so they could get pagans on board. Even my Catholic friends admit to that
wow, I'm sure your friend is the head authority on Catholic history out of the billion odd catholics.

Christmas is based on John the Baptist's conception. The passage with his fathering offering incense is a reference to Yom Kippur, early October. Its stated 6 months later Christ is conceived, early April. 9 months later, birth. Early January or late December.

>>84767471
>Remember the (((scientific dark ages))), goy!

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>>84770596
>cultural christian/pagan

>>84769299
He's Buddhist

>>84771019
>the Church took the Dec 25 Bday of Mithra so they could get pagans on board

https://youtu.be/DfcvJWPTY64?t=6m8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muM7Uk40iRE

>>84768737
*(((Varg)))

>>84761865
because
>in the eyes of God they'll be flanderereses

>>84767344
>it's a retard doesn't know what supernatural is episode

>>84764617
God forbid they ever ridicule Muslims though

>>84767709
Fewer.

>>84776493
Fucking OP & everyone blown out by missing this.

I don't remember this line myself but if it was said then that anwers OP's question.

>>84762391
It's an obvious metaphor, if Flanders baptized them then it would mean he was a better father/better caretaker, and that the kids would belong to him
Would you be comfortable with another man baptizing your kids without your permission? What about if some guy took your son out and taught him to ride a bike?

>>84776493
But why did Marge object to it? Also why didn't she baptize them in the first place?

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>>84768467
>some are pedobaptists
That's all of them anon