Buffy The Vampire Slayer

>tfw touched Anya at a con one time
God I'm so autistic.
Anyway yeah I was put off this show for years because for some reason I thought/was told it was a girls show but then I found out it was very highly rated. When it was still on Netflix I burned through the first 6 seasons real quick, then took a break for exams and when I tried to get back to S7, I couldn't get into it. Since then it's been removed and I never finished it, although to me the perfect ending was S5 and S6 was like a weird dream.

I don't know who my favourite main character was, maybe Giles, but my favourite character across the show was Principal Snyder. Dude cracked me up every scene and I was legit sad when he died.

So many great episodes but off the top of my "Band Candy" was a huge standout, probably because it featured tons of Snyder and also my favourite small-time villain Ethan Rayne.

>>84750541
>many episodes later when Buffy could read minds
>you banged my mom on the hood of a police car!?

Kek

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>>84750594
Twice

>>84750406
In terms of episodes I always had a soft spot for the one in the first season when Xander gets possessed by a Hyena. I'm not sure why.

lets watch buffy together

cytu><be / r / buffy

>>84750406
why is Giles there twice I thought I was having a stroke for a second

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>>84750759

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>>84750759
Was actually supoused to be Riley

Currently in season four, stopped to watch Angel along with the season when found out buffy was taken from Netflix, shit it hurts, now looking for decents rips all over the net.

help.

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>>84750406

>>84750541
>>tfw touched Anya at a con one time
Lucky, I wish I could touch Anya at a con

Season 7 could use some characters better instead of spending so much time on useless potential slayers. They were much worse than Dawn at her worst. And the finale should have been 2 parts imo. It felt underwhelming, and there was some plot holes.

>>84750973
there is nothing other than dvdrips, and those are on rutracker

>>84750973
I found a decent enough one on piratebay. The rest were 360p messes.

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*blocks your path*

>>84751076
Link?

>>84750973
Speaking of Riley, why wasn't he at the reunion? They got the rest of the main cast.

>>84751166
Kek

I bet she was secretly happy to hear that. I would feel flattered if I found out people masturbated to my photos.

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Anyone got a better quality of this highly artistic photo?

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>>84751166

>>84751166
holy kek, cum tribute tards btfo

>>84750406
In the end, I don't know, it felt depressing. Buffy and the other Scoobies' relationship was strained and it felt like noone cared about anyone by the end of the series, apart from Buffy, who only had Spike totally loyal to herself.

>>84751790
if it was intended or not, it was a show for teenagers and that how growing up can be.

i think at the last season they were all just really exhausted and done with the show.

>>84751830
> it was a show for teenagers and that how growing up can be
That's why season 6 is one of my favorites. It didn't matter that she was the slayer or she had been dead for a few weeks before getting ripped apart from heaven and being brought back. The world didn't care, she had to quit school and start flipping burgers. That reality element made it depressing for me, because for a show with so much unrealistic stuff, the emotions of these characters felt so real.

>>84751830
>>84752144
S6's darker tone was intentional. Not just the burger and heaven stuff, but the whole season lacks the traditional supernatural villain and instead has normal teenagers, who kill a character with an actual gun instead of some magic weapon. Human actions have bleak consequences. There's also the weird rape/BDSM fetish thing buffy develops with spike, she has completely lost her innocence.

>>84752144
also there were quite a bit episodes where there was a monster to fight but the episodes really werent about the monster but about the relationships stuff and character dynamics and it worked in a weird way, i dont think any other show pulled that off so far.

>>84752299
theres also that asylum episode where buffy thinks all her slayer life was just an illusion. that episode was heavy for this type of show.

>>84752388
That ep also ends really open ended.

>>84752388
>>84752418
Yeah...realistically speaking, that versionof the story sure makes more sense than the ''actual'' story.

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Season 6 is interesting because it's the maturity season. During all other seasons, the big bad is always something outside, some monster. In season 6 their former high school friends create the Geek Trio which proceeds in committing all sorts of shenanigans, at first funny but more and more dangerous and perverse until they turn to rape and murder "because they can" and feel superior. In time this triggers Big Bad Willow who herself is in a junkie like state vis a vis of her magic use. Buffy is discovering that she harbors very dark thoughts and fantasies while she get into an intense BDSM relationship with Spike. And the amazing thing in that, is that she is the abuser in that relationship, she constantly humiliates and debase Spike, even throwing money at him like he's a cheap whore she uses. Remember that at this point Spike has protected her sister while she was dead, has been tortured by Glory in season 5 because he refused to give her Faith's location, and generally has been an ally to her and her only true friend since her resurrection. Season 6 is generally considered a low tier season but not for me. Oh and that's also the season where Buffy is fucked in public in the Bronze. Very kinky for a teenager show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X3RHptNjR8

>>84750406
Dawn a cute

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>>84752916
cant argue with that

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willow is best girl

>>84753066
She was actually a horrible friend and a horrible lover.

I'd like to see BtvS come back as an animated series, voiced by the original cast.

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>>84753107
its ok, her cuteness makes up for it

>>84753066
Willow decided to kill everything because her GF died.

>>84750541
>touched Anya at a con

Why do you always get the good stuff?

Only famous people that comes here, are rockstar after their first retirement tour.

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>>84750406
The spin off was better 2bqh

>>84753066
childhood is thinking willow is the best girl
adulthood is realizing she's the worst cunt

>>84751130

No one liked Riley. I feel bad for the actor who seemed like a nice guy.

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What went right?

>>84753199
Except for season 4.

Angel has the best recovery in terms of quality I've seen in any series. I hated the show so much after S4, then Whedon gave us Angelkino with 5.

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>>84753178
thats understandable

>>84753214
nah

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>>84753287
>that mound

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>>84753214
Childhood is thinking Willow is the best girl

Adolescence is realizing she's a spiteful, selfish, narcissistic, short-sighted bitch

Adulthood is realizing that's what makes her the best girl

>>84753178
That I could understand. Her selling out Buffy in season 7, cheating on Oz, moving on from Tara in a few weeks for a big-headed slut etc are much worse.

I still like her for some reason, but she was never as innocent or as good as she seemed to be.

>>84753337
Innocent Willow died in HS.
She was just a shy cunt the rest of her life

>>84753214

She is pretty horrible. A cunt who does that fucking baby voice so people think she's cute.

>>84753382
>A cunt who does that fucking baby voice so people think she's cute.
damn, why does it work so well though!

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Best girl aged like fine wine, while the others aged like milk

>>84753435

Neckbeards like infant-minded women. Why do you think they like Fred and Willow so much? Same character.

They're also Whedon's favorites. Imagine that.

>>84753655
I like Demon Fred more than human Fred.
Mostly because of her interactions with a depressed drunk.

>>84753653

Charisma has had so many lifts, injections and surgeries she's a Cordybot at this point.

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>>84753753
If that's true she should give her doctor's number to the others because I couldn't tell. She looks pretty natural.

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>>84753948

>no upper facial features at all
>that instagram blur
>natural

You can really tell how much work she's had done in that mock 50 shades flick she did.

>>84750973
It's on hulu

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>>84754149

>>84753337
She also raped her GF in Tabula Rasa. Willow was very skilled manipulator.

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>>84753199
Angel did turn out dramatically better.

I think it was because you could feel like the characters weren't necessarily all super powerful and that there'd be some challenges now and then. With Buffy things got set so that you rarely felt there was a threat anywhere

Glory was pretty was pretty nice in Buffy and it seemed for a little while it'd change the trend there, then they just sidelined her and you rarely saw anything from that character.

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>>84754377
BASED

Mom? Mooom?

>>84754481
>Angel did turn out dramatically better.
It's funny people still say that when the only parts of Angel that weren't garbage were the last couple episodes of Season 2, the entirety of Season 5 and the few S3/S4 episodes that didn't revolve around Connor and Jasmine

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>>84750406
>Buffy was 20 years ago
I'm 30 in 8 years, wtf I hate time

>>84754587
The only parts that were bad was the first half of S4.
Angel boning destiny in every season was great.

>>84754587

I disagree.

>>84754654
I'm 30 now.

>>84754587

That's usually what they mean. They ignore the Darla, Conner, Jasmine stuff and conveniently leave out that is was 90% of the show.

>>84754703
I liked Darla and Jasmine though.

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>>84754579
It's
>Mom? Mom? Mommy?

>>84754703
There's literally nothing wrong with Darla and Dru returning. I liked those eps a lot, and I liked Edgy "good" Angel.

>>84754481

>adam, glory, super willow, caleb, ubervamps

Angel had... The Beast and Hamilton.

>>84754684
How does it feel? Have you found yourself? Do you ever reach a point where you know wtf are you doing with life?

>>84754774
Angel had untouchable demons that were plotting the apocalypse and using humans own selfish desires to achieve it.

>>84754754

>w&h concoct an elaborate plan...to resurrect darla just to mess with angel

Angel's continued existence is the dumbest thing about it. Thankfully the show is just a deconstruction of it, but anon's don't get that in the slightest.

Show was for fags.

>>84754840
>untouchable
Angel kills a senior partner with a magic gauntlet once

Then he just leaves it on the ground and walks away because an old dude's ghost tells him earth is actually hell, the absolute madman

>>84754840

That they never got around to it. That's one thing I hated about S5. No, no, no THIS is the apocalypse! Not those other ones! Get's tired after awhile.

>>84754835
Not really.
I'm more or less the same person I was. I just have a bigger check and a better house.

>>84754855
Angel is a pivotal player in starting the apocalypse, and in a way he literally does it.

>>84754874
That wasn't a partner. They can't take actual physical form. Angel killed a host.

>>84754909
S5 ends with LA going to hell and Angels final stand.

The partners win in a way, Angel just sped up the clock as a fuck you to them.

>>84754840
The senior partners were possibly the nicest villain touch to both shows.
Finally something worthy, given that lovecraftian feel of unknown entities living beyond this plane.
And they weren't even the worst possible thing out there.

>>84755116
I liked that they were a remnant of the old world, and they weren't even that strong to begin with.
Illyria thinks very little of them, saying that they were barely better than vampires.

>>84754917

>Angel is a pivotal player in starting the apocalypse, and in a way he literally does it.

No, he isn't. He actually had nothing to do with their plans.

It's literally like the CSM not killing Mulder but with less sense.

>>84754990

He sped up no clock. The Partners sent the army to kill them, not end the world.

>>84755187

How are they different than The First exactly?

>>84755194
Angel was foretold to be a key player in the apocalypse, and if he played his role he would be human.

Angel jump started the Apocalypse and in the end the partners pulled LA into a hell dimension.

>>84755251
We see The First in the forms he wishes to take.
The Partners are felt but not seen.

>>84755251
Technically, the First was more evil and older, more immortal and probably more powerful I guess... but it feels like the partners were better designed.
Sometimes, their purposes even align with the good guys, they are evil business men. Also we never see them. They are unknown horrors. The first appears as dead people and can also convince you to kys. In the end it's no scarier than a psychopathic ghost

>>84755257

He didn't jump start anything, nor was LA sucked into hell. Lindsey reads some silliness about another apocalypse and Angel, realizing he fucked up with W&H, decided to kill the circle.

The SP sent a demon army to kill them. That's it. There was literally no reason at all for them not to kill Angel. None.

>>84755393

>it feels

So you have nothing other than Muh Angel is just better bullshit.

>>84755251
The First was likely older and more powerful, but it delegated itself to taking various forms and screwinget with the heroes heads, since it couldn't harm them physically, lacking a tangible presence in the world to do so. Whereas the Partners never manifest themselves and delegate most of the manual labor to their funkiest, but unlike the First they are shown to be -quite- capable of taking physical action if the situation calls for it.

>>84755652
You're ignoring the Shanshu prophecy that the partners were very invested in.

They wanted Angel evil not dead. You need to rewatch the show.

Angel knows that his actions in S5 will be his last, the partners will literally rain Hell on LA, and they did.
If you follow After The Fall they pulled LA in to a hell dimension and made Angel human since his role was over.

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>>84754747

Yes, dear?

>>84755652
>hurr durr feels don't matter
Enjoying a show is all about feels and impressions and the reasons why you watch a show and continue to do so.
But if you would be retarded enough to watch a show for muh overly well designed technicalities over if you really like it or not then I have nothing more to say to you.
And I never said this or that show was better. Different anon. Only said why I prefer the Partners over the First. If this bothers you, stay mad.

>>84755918

The one they had him sign away? No. It's you that needs a rewatch.

>>84755952

When you're saying objectively one is better than another, yes your feels are irrelevant.

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>>84755187
The old world was the best part of the buffyverse. Really added something, that idea that humans were meaningless to old dormant cosmic horrors, such as Illyria herself.
And how can you mention Illyria and not post her? Heresy

>>84756021
They had him sign away his reward, not his role.
They wanted to make sure that he had no motive, that he didn't want to be human anymore.

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I mean I know it was the start of the sjws and the snarky banter super hero stuff. But I still like it, and angel. I recently re-watched both in "correct order" was pretty good, still like that damn musical too.

>>84756038
Illyria is best girl, but I have no images on this PC.

>>84750541
I touched her once as well. It was near the end of a con in Toronto, and my cousin and I saw her leaving, and we were like can we get a picture? She looked to her manager and he said it was okay, so we went in close and had a picture.

>>84756021
>Y-Your opinion is not like mine, that's why you're wrong!
>B-but muh scientific objectiveness
>where is the villain-meter that measures villain quality!?!

>>84750406
This show gives me flashbacks to the oughties. It's a bad trip.

>>84756148
He's been in every Buffy thread for the past 2/3 months. He really doesn't like Angel and will go through massive arguments to prove you wrong.

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>>84756098
That needs remedy

>>84756301
tfw she will never lie to you.

>>84756056

>the shanshu was super important
>but he signed that away at their request
>n-no it was his role that was important

Keep carrying those posts, baby.

>>84756148

You're the one who the villain meter shit. Your problem is you know you're wrong.

>>84756187

Nice try, dipshit. Haven't been in a Buffy thread here for ages.

The problem here is you and the other fag know you're spewing shit and are doing the usual troll bit.

>>84756418
I expressed my opinion towards the matter.
You sperged like a good autistic faggot just because you don't like it.
Enjoy your last (you) from me.

>>84756418
They made it explicitly clear that he was signing away his humanity. The prophecy would still happen.

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>>84756326
why even

>>84756418
Also
>everyone I disagree with is a troll

Buffy fags are the worst.

>>84754684
Me too.

>>84754835
Nope, broke and went back to school

>>84754917
I envy your house and check

>>84756522

>>84756583
I work in IT, I just kept getting new certs and pretending I'm not a manchild.

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>hey buffy thread yay
>same old whedon war shit

>guess i'll just shitpost

>>84756668
These threads tend to be comfy when fans don't argue which show is better.

There's always one guy and it snowballs.

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>>84756668

Holtz had to be my favorite villain in Angel. Solid acting and all around awesome story. The beast was fun it was great watching him fuck up Faith.

The Mayor was my fav villain in Buffy.

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>>84756721
Personally I might like Angel better but that's just me and my reasons. Other than that, I started with Buffy just like everyone else. This means I like Buffy threads too, don't get why some faggots have to fag and start wars. This is beyond autistic.

>>84756923
I like some Angel seasons more, but I don't see how any Buffy arc reaches the lows of the evil Cory arc/Jas.

>>84756629
That's what I'm attempting to go into. Took programming classes, but just want comfy IT job. Finished my course in sept.

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>>84756923

It's 4chan. What do you expect?

>>84756864
Nice picks
Mine:
>Holtz, Beast, Senior Partners
>Mayor, Glory, Adam, Angelus
Faith was awesome too.
She should've been at the reunion.

>>84750406
I always felt like Adam didn't get a fair shake by the staff, Joss walks in an says "nah, gay" and so he gets underdeveloped and acts like, "see, I was a right, he's completely underdeveloped."

>>84750406

Buffy and Angel are still easily my top favorite shows. It´s so rare to see actual character development on shows even today.
Weasley has to be one of the best characters ever. His transformation arc was amazing and he was not the only one. Cordelia steadily sinking on depression or Faith redemption arc where damn good too.

Not to mention both shows had some great arcs and some damn good stand alone episodes.

I would say is kind of like this:

Buffy

S03 > S02 > S04 > S06 > S07 > S01 > S05

Angel

S03 > S02 > S01 > S05 > S04

As for the girls, because no Buffyverse thread is complete without it...

Faith = Vamp Willow > Down (S06) > Lilah = Jenny > Eve > Darla > Amy (witch) > Buffy > Illyria > Cordi > Tara > Anya > Dru > Kendra

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>>84757189

He wasn't planned to be the main villain. Maggie was but the actress left midway through.

I didn't mind Adam. S4 as a whole gets too much shit.

>>84757278

Those are some shitty rankings and I think you're very confused.

>>84757278
>Not putting the blue goddess in her rightful place of worship.
See this >>84756098

>>84753199
Yeah right. The only thing good about Angel was Wesley's story arc and evolution as a character and the sheer magnificent beauty of the actress who played Fred. Oh and Spike, of course. Everything else was shit. Especially the campy "Powers That Be" crap and Angel's son.

>>84757402

>magnificent beauty

Amy is cute at best. Angel gal official ranking:

Lilah > Cordy = Eve > Fred > Darla > Kate

>>84757402
Both shows were camp as shit anon.

The only bits I dislike about Angel are all parts of S4.

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>>84757526
Heresy

>>84757084
I'm just Level 2/3 service desk.
I don't have the motivation for anything like programing.

>>84753337
I think she was as good and innocent as she seemed to be in the beginning and then the power she experienced from magic changed her, slowly over the course of the show. That's what makes her such a great character. We got to see her shadowself manifest in a very well told and believable way.

And the writers used magic and mysticism to portray things like sexuality and addiction with her character that I thought was really clever, especially for the time. All major plot points involving her character were foreshadowed so perfectly, too, often multiple seasons in advance.

>>84757685
By the end of high school/beginning for Uni poor Willow was well on her way to becoming what she became after Tara died.

>>84757558
Yeah but Buffy acknowledged it more. Angel seemed to me to take itself way more seriously.

>>84757526
Why is best girl, Harmony not on this list?

>>84757839
Angel dancing his goofy ass off in S1 means it took itself more seriously?

Angel had a Noir-ish setting, but it was just as campy. Buffy was still a teenager when Angel left so the general mood was a bit less dark. Until Buffy became an adult that is.

>>84757299
Season 4 gets so much shit because it was such an adjustment period in the show, I think.

And it has a couple of really REALLY bad episodes.

And The Initiative is not what people want to see in a show about magic and mysticism.

But season 4 has some great stuff in it, like the "Hush" episode. And everything related to Spike.

>>84750757
Good episode picks, I forgot how much I like season 5. I still ship Angel and Buffy but Spike is the second best character in the show. Xander is at his peak handsomeness, Dawn is actually okay, and I can't remember much else right now but.... I like it.

>>84758115
its just a playlist that goes on forever, im not actually streaming this

>>84758069
The problem with The Initiative is not the concept but what they did with it.

In a world filled with vampires and monsters of course the Gov would have some facility to study them.

S4 also gave us Chipped Spike. It wasn't all bad.

>>84750406

Fuck how tall is the bloke at the back

>>84758069
I heard an anon say that S4 hate was about Riley not being Angel mostly.
And as it had bad episodes, it also had some of the kinoest episodes in the entire show.
I did like the Initiative though. Is always a missing part of magic shows. Really? the government and non-magics are gonna stay in the shadows and know nothing? Not buying that.
>>84758158
This

>>84758164
its a metaphor, hes standing on all the corpses hes responsible for

One thing I love about Season 6 now, that I actually hated the first time watching it is the Buffy story line about being in heaven (or whatever) and coming back to life on Earth and how they portrayed that as/through depression.

I originally watched the show before experiencing depression and didn't get it. I was a lot younger then and blissfully ignorant.

I have a new take on it now after having lived with depression for 10+ years and I think they did a great job of capturing the feeling of depression with that story line.

>>84758158
>The problem with The Initiative is not the concept but what they did with it.
That's probably true, yeah. It could have been done better.
>In a world filled with vampires and monsters of course the Gov would have some facility to study them.
I agree, I just don't think the majority of Buffy fans want/wanted to watch that part of the universe.

so will there ever be an hd release? its even impossible to find hdtv rips, whats that all about?

>>84758359
It seems to be a reoccuring theme in Whedons works too.

>>84758384
The HD/widescreen version is beyond fucked.
They color correct some things that don't need it, don't color correct things that were corrected in the past. Don't hide boom mics, etc.

>>84758416
yes i know about the problems with the hd release but i still want to have it because i doubt there will be another version anytime soon, but it seems like the whole pirating community decided to not bother uploading it.

>>84758468
>it seems like the whole pirating community decided to not bother uploading it.

The HD version is just that bad.

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>>84757090
>>84756753
>>84756668
What is it about fakes of actresses that makes me swell to a full, throbbing four inches?

>>84758679
>four inches

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>>84759154
My face when

>>84750541
>I thought/was told it was a girls show
i was lucky enough to catch the original movie when i was a kid. it was one of the few movies my sister and i could agree to watch together since we shared a tv (she was obsessed with luke perry.) many of my classmates, male and female, watched the show when it came out, though it just wasn't all that popular. but over time it seems more people have adopted the "it's for girls" attitude that wasn't really there with the movie or first airing of the show

>>84759164
that episode is literally playing right on here >>84750757