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What if he said "You're killing Martha!"

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>>84741552
probably would've been better

Will whedon cuck JL? The only DCEU movies I have left to look forward to are Batman ones with reeves.

>when even your worst DC movie is worth of an Oscar

how can marvelcucks will ever recover?

reminder this was made by actual pajeets and they will cry to the mods to help them when exposed

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>>84741645
what about aquakino? wan is a solid director and momoa should be great

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>>84741535
http://thefederalist.com/2013/11/11/plato-man-steel/

>>84741678
>t. didn't actually watch the Oscars
If you had watched them then you would know that the only reason SS won over Star trek beyond was so that the winners could give an acceptance speech that was about nothing but how awesome migrant workers are. It's no coincidence that in the year where the academy finally bowed to pressure from SJWs (which was also the first Oscars ceremony under Trump's presidency) that they gave best makeup--an award that they never cared about in the first place--to the only movie up for the award that also happened to be the only one with a makeup team filled with migrants. I could care less about these company wars but anybody with eyes who has seen SS and star trek beyond had to realize that something was fishy with that award

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>>84742405
it's a joke lad

>BVS: Dawn of Jewtice
wdtmbt

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>>84741465
>tfw you realize Snyder's capekino are what Kubrick would be making if he was alive today

>>84742405
>he actually sat down and watched the Oscars ceremony

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>>84742601

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I just finished watching Reel Analysis' video on MoS and I was really impressed with it. Never knew just how much snyder tried to show how the movie really is the birth of superman, especially all that stuff with the world engines.

>>84741552
What if he didn't really say Martha at all?

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>>84741719
I have high hopes for underwater awesomeness and spoops.

>>84741465

Is the stuff like the top two images intentional or probably just a coincidence? It seems like a lot to plan out.

Am I the only faggot here who actually really likes slow-mo in movies? Especially in action scenes.

>>84742601
That's fucking nuts.

>>84743478
No you're not alone. Slow motion let's you see the action in more detail than other director tricks like shakey cam and quick cuts. .

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>>84742909
That really opened my eyes, too. I didn't even know about it until about a month after BvS's release.

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>>84743470
I put nothing past this man. Nothing.

>>84743478
I like it in the hands of someone who knows how to use it well. In my opinion, Snyder knows how to use it exceptionally well.

>>84743478
It's a lot better than the disgusting quick cuts that marvel loves to use, that's for sure.

Is this thread ironic

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>>84743720
Nothing at all.

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Post moar deep stuff

Something to ponder about things to come, DCbros:

Argus.

http://www.argus-gov.com/

It's the project that Task Force X operates under. Its Latin motto Noster Quaerere Incipere translates to "our search begins." Pretty much guaranteed to be referring to the search for metahumans, and the first guy we saw keeping tabs on any was none other than Lex himself. Though it's never overtly stated in the movie, it's pretty obvious that he's collecting his data by means of hacking surveillance cams and even other government projects like some sort of all-seeing eye. Interestingly, one of the definitions of Argus is "giant with a hundred eyes."

I think Waller's working for Lex, the corporate giant that sees all and knows all, and she may not even know it yet.

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>>84743417
>>84741719
>underwater horror kino

as someone who has an irrational fear of deep water (and the things lurking therein) I'm not sure how i feel about this

>>84743478
Cinema is a visual medium. To not appreciate editing techniques like slow motion and ramping is to reject the most essential part of the form. To prefer fast cut multicam action where you can't see clean movement is the ultimate mark of the pleb. You're safe here fellow DChad.

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>>84744434
I still like this one a lot.

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>>84743921
>is this thread ironic

METROPOLIS

MANKIND IS INTRODUCED TO THE SUPERMAN

>>84741465
Is there seriously only one film next year

What are the odds of them announcing another one for a July 2018 release at SDCC

>>84744434
that poster is such a visual clusterfuck .. just a bunch of headshots all pasted together with no harmony, your eye isn't drawn anywhere in particular

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>>84744612
Not me. I like being spooped.

>>84744434
Here's one that sort of sets the stage for one of the running themes: under the right circumstances, anything can become a religion, anything can become a god.

>>84744670
>ALEXander III of Macedonia
>ALEXander II of Luthor
holy shit

>>84743921
if you have to ask, you don't belong here

Man these kino threads are always so fucking stupid.

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>>84744717
I'm actually OK with a slower pace. It's been a hectic couple of years for cape fans, and I'd rather them take their time and deliver something memorable than something people are going to digest and forget in a week.

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Is WB recycling the plot of BvS for Godzilla vs Kong?

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>>84744434
Here are the caps that pretty much started it all. A lot of opinions have changed and evolved since then, but you can see the beginnings of understanding in them.

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>>84744434
And here's one about Man of Steel's childhood flashbacks. It made me happy to hear that Pa Kent's got some scenes in Justice League.

>>84745146
Which one is Bruce? I say Kong, because he'd sort of be the underdog.

>>84741552
Why would superman call her martha instead of mom? Ma? Anything but just her name.

That is one of the biggest problems I have with these superman movies is that he feels so far separated from normal people. He doesn't really seem to have any sort of emotional connection with his parents or even Lois. That is what they were going for pushing his alien aspect but to me that was never what superman was about. He may not have been human but he embodied all of the best characteristics that make us human.

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I liked Leto Joker. I just wish they remove the tattoo on his forehead.

>>84745345
Because he is speaking through his Superman persona not as Clark Kent. He wouldn't say I'm trying to locate my girlfriend, he would say I'm trying to find Lois Lane. He is pleading with Batman to find a missing person, her name is Martha Kent. Saying my mom would be irrational, since he would have to assume that Batman knows his identity and family members' names.

In the film you can even hear Superman saying Kent, but he says it with a gasped breath because there is a boot over his neck.

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>>84745365
he's okay. frankly the joker is overrated as a villain. i prefer like, two-face or deathstroke.

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>>84745345
It might turn out that Clark didn't even say Martha - it might have just been Bruce hearing what he needed to hear to stop himself.

Bruce was sabotaging his own vendetta campaign pretty much from the word go by choosing to make a spear instead of an actual bullet. Bruce can't kill that way, not even at his worst, especially not a guy that his own mind was already painting in as one of the "angels."

Watch the scene again sometime. Take notice of the first time we hear Clark refer to Martha as his mom. It's after Lois shows up. There's more than one way that can be interpreted, sure, but it's going to be pretty damn funny if Clark comes back thinking Bruce is some sort of telepath.

>>84745524
This would actually be an interesting take: the Joker equates violence with love which is why he constantly harasses Batman because he would show love to him - and it would explain his relationship with Harley Quinn...

>>84745365
Same. I felt he was hugely under utilised and with massive potential, Im indifferent to the tattoo

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Most more kino lads

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>>84745564
>Watch the scene again sometime. Take notice of the first time we hear Clark refer to Martha as his mom. It's after Lois shows up. There's more than one way that can be interpreted, sure, but it's going to be pretty damn funny if Clark comes back thinking Bruce is some sort of telepath.

that's exactly the type of weird, auteur thing zack would do. and plebs on reddit would hate it.

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>>84745620

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>>84745365
I do too. Even the tats have grown on me.

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>>84741552

>>84745555
I just want to see Hush/Zsasz/Hugo/Riddler... heres hoping reeves uses him

checked

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There's a Ring Cycle, Tolkien, Arthurian kind of feel to BvS(and JL, it seems) that I really like. The literary archetype of Edenic "childhood" or pre-history is certainly present in BvS. 300 has that same sort of feel.

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>>84745365
>Were there any that didn't get cut? I'm asking you, were there any that didn't get cut? There were so many scenes that got cut from the movie, I couldn't even start. I think that the Joker... we did a lot of experimentation on the set, we explored a lot. There's so much that we shot that's not in the film. If I die anytime soon, it's probably likely that it'll surface somewhere. That's the good news about the death of an actor is all that stuff seems to come out.

>>84745732
I'd love to see Zsasz. Love. It.

>>84745486
Countless people are killed everyday for superman to just come out and say 'Martha Kent is dying' is really strange. It would make much more sense for this one death that he is so focused on even when he is about to die to be someone close to him. I think it could have been more powerful for him to say mom and that would cause Bruce to hesitate. To see superman as more human. It helps to show an emotional connection that was lacking everywhere else in the story.

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>>84745732
Reeves said he's doing a detective-focused movie, so a Se7en-esque story of Batman and hopefully a Robin goddamn it hunting down Zsasz would be pretty fucking rad.

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>>84745749
I can't wait for us to get more information on the Ancient War. I think we're going to find out through Diana that there's more to the absence of the gods than just Ares.

If you noticed, not even Ares wanted to operate anywhere but the shadows, and I think we're going to find out there's a reason for that.

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He flew too close to the sun.

>>84745901
Robin makes everything campy. Just look at him

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>>84745901
>detective-focused movie
Neat. Hopefully it's Commissioner focused too.

Ahh yes, the thread that reminds me of why /tv/ has horrible taste

>>84745994
Steve went out like a Superman.

Batfleck should already have a 3rd Robin.

>lex reverses the picture of the angels and demons
>"we were wrong, demons don't come from underground, but from above"
>next movie is about how bruce, after having his sins redeemed by the death of superman, gathers the justice league on earth
>the implication that angels come from earth

woah. How will marlels recover? Another 5 second clip of a purple man with a magic glove?

>>84746025
fuck "campy." the robins are essential to batman as a character, it's absurd that they've been almost entirely forgotten in the films.

>>84746048
isnt it time you went back?

>>84746102
How would you feel about Carrie Kelly?

I like Tim Drake a lot, but even I have to admit that he's basically just Grayson made over.

>>84745620
>>84745654
>>84745656
>>84745687
>>84745755
>>84746137

Thanks for sharing these. I'm leaving this thread up so I can check for more when I get home from work.

>>84746238
>Carrie Kelly?
Sophia Lillis

>>84743956
Did anybody notice that lex after talking with Steppenwolf he was no longer all whacky and autistic

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>>84746025
I'd say he makes Batman a stranger character. Imagine, Ben Affleck parading around with some kid in these shorts. Hammers home how fucked up this guy really is that he would use children as essentially soldiers in his war against crime.

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>>84746238
A bunch of fanboys(girls) might get upset of not having the complete set.

>>84746343
I sure did. Still a bit unhinged, but it was almost like even having just a little bit of the knowledge(truth) he was sitting on come to light "unburdened" him.

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>>84746356

>>84745889
Except less than a minute before that scene Batman says "I bet your parents told you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason."

Batman knows Superman has parents. Biological and adoptive. That's easy to assume. It's only when there is a name attached that he really has to consider the depth of a single human life. When he hears "Martha" he remembers everything about his mother and what she meant to him. Suddenly, Superman didn't just have "a mother" he had a Martha in his life too, and it was then that Batman truly saw himself in Superman. He had already been projecting the darker side of his personality onto him, his belief that people can be corrupted because he himself is "fallen" but when he is taken back to the night of his parents death, he remembers the innocence and potential for grace that is in every human being.

>>84746403
I know for sure that I'll be perfectly cool with them leaving Damian out. I hate that kid.

>>84746403
that's still missing a couple of people

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>>84746359
>Hammers home how fucked up this guy really is that he would use children as essentially soldiers in his war against crime.

>>84746493
Same. Hopefully if Flash goes into the future he meets Terry McGinnis

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>>84746493
>I hate that kid.

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>>84746137
M-Marvel can make references too!!!

>>84746403
Does anyone know why DC has an obsession with characters having black hair and blue eyes? Bruce, Clark and Diana could pass as triplets.

>>84746466
>>84746460
>>84746356
I hope snyder sees these and all the other images. I feel he's a good guy thats given alot of shit for no good reason

>>84746359
As much as people hate Kick Ass I think the film proved you could successfully have 12 year old child play Robin. Hopefully someone involved with Batman remembers that flick.

>>84746471
>potential for grace

I have to point this out, because I think it's beautiful whether it was intentional or not:

While Lex is in the process of murdering Finch(his truth) and his Mercy, Bruce is shown calling out for Grace.

https://youtu.be/tpw6JRIWeNk

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>>84746689
yeah he's aware of them

he said in an interview years ago that he doesn't care if most people don't like his films, as long as some people like them a lot

>>84746647
Its the patrician combo desu. Black hair accentuates the color of the eyes, more pleasing to the eyes

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>>84746689
Oh he knows....

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>>84746689
>>84746739

That's good to hear. He's sort of become my hero.

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>>84746689
Me too anon, to be aware that people talk shit not just about your movies but of your character, it can't be good for someone on the long run

>>84746697
This will never not get me.

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>>84746689
Hopefully he shows up at comic con and the audience gives him a 13 minute (it's been 13 years since his first major motion picture) standing ovation

>>84746812
yeah man, me too. it's pretty remarkable for somebody to be making the types films he's making at the superhero mega-blockbuster level. even if you don't like his movies, you have to admire the commitment he has to his vision.

What was Doomsday supposed to do after he killed Superman?

What was Lex's plan to handle Doomsday?

>>84741719
don't forget
>Dolph Lundgren as Nereus
>Amber looking damn good as Mera
>Da Foe as Vulko
>Based Patrick Wilson as Orm

>>84746359
Look at that bulge jason was packing

>>84746429
Yeah thats what i thought too, i really enjoyed him as lex Luther

>superman's fight with zod levels an entire city block, causes collateral damage in smallville fighting faora, etc.
>superman shows no remorse
>superman snaps zod's neck, cries like a little bitch afterwards

Explain this shit

>>84746689
hes a fucking hack that single handedly destroyed what should been the easiest franchise to handle. he deserves all the hate and more

>>84746732
HOLY FUCK
One year later still so much kino to uncover...

>>84746504
The mcu where no heroes ever get killed pussies

>>84745674
do you mind if I save this image?

>>84747090
He killed the last of his kind. He knows that besides him, there will be no more Kryptonians. At the same time he is devastated that the last Kryptonians, the ones that actually personally knew his father, turned out to be genocidal maniacs, responsible for the deaths of thousands. At the same time it's a tragic situation and a tragic choice for him - he has to kill Zod to save thousands.

>>84745146
>you're letting him...kill Mothra!
Holy shit i wouldn't even be mad if that's what happens

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>Joss won't get any credit for JL

Is this fair?

>>84747159
Meanwhile Superman gets killed in BvS then we're shown he's alive 15 minutes later

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>>84747097

>>84747226
And it was great

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>>84747226
>implying he wouldn't come back
>implying he doesn't do this in the comics

Really rustles my brustles. At least instead of shock value because comics aren't selling, his death is used to unite people, to see a MAN not a God lay his life down for the world, and bring about a Dawn of Justice, a new age were people can be inspired

>>84746359
>That pic
There's a cool shot in the JL trailer where he is looking up at Flash's suit and smiling. It would be insane if at some point in the film Bruce accidentally calls Barry "Jason".

>prometheus zapped by zeus for going against the gods
>see the fraud you are with their own hands


the city civilians light candles at his emblem, built into the ground (coincides with the vision of omega in bruce's dream) while clark himself is buried

clark ends up being a 'true' promethean figure, what form this light takes is already hinted at through bvs into justice league, after all, the logo for justice league is a straight up shield with a star shining in the center of it. obviously, this coincides with the hope aspect of the story as told through bruce; hope in the face of tragedy, processing the past to go forward. it's also connected to the painting in luthor's office, which while being only angels and demons fighting, has meaning that changes throughout bvs. by the end, it pretty much paints all life on earth as a form of light, with the demons to come from "out in the darkness among the stars". which is what justice league is, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45h73pDutBk
there's a reason, all of the justice league characters look the way they do, a reason why they share a certain design aspect

>>84745703
HOLY SHIT

>>84747090
>>84747203
Also it's his first real fight. He's not like Batman, who fought so many criminals and villains he became hardened enough to show no remorse killing/branding criminals. Clark at this point is still a normal guy, a boy really, who has never seen death and devastation on such scale.

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>>84747226
Still better than Rhostie getting paralyzed and shown walking again 15 minutes later.

Zack Snyder? More like Hack Shyster.

>>84747308
>>84747364
i mean we all now this by now, superman can't be kept down


he is literally on that level, the reaction alone proves it

>>84747159
>what is quicksilver
>what is yondu

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>>84746689
He's seen them

>>84747428
BTFO

>>84746403
When did Jason get the grey highlights? As if he wasn't edgy looking enough already...

>>84747452
Did anyone even give a fuck when Quicksilver died? I forgot he was in Age of Ultron
I teared up when Yondu died tho, but we also had him around for longer than Quicksilver. What did Quicksilver even do in that movie, I just remember Wanda was the important one cause she has mindfuck powers and can break apart the avengers.

>>84746647
easier to colour

>>84747658
>yfw you realize snyder's mother is named Marsha
> Marsha = Martha

:'(

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>>84746359

>>84748112
What the fuck am I reading

>>84748198
all star batman and robin, a great comic that triggers redditors and plebs.

bvs and mos absolutely destroy ww
name 3 memorable or cool lines from ww

>>84747203
>>84747402

Ok that's fine and dandy, but why doesn't he feel bad about all the humans caught in the crossfire of his violent, destructive tendencies?

>>84748321
>You can't cross! That's No Man's Land
I am no man

and

>Why does it hurt so much (Steve's death)
Because it was real

>>84741465
I just realized that BVS is.
It's an over-rated 90s Elseworlds book.

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Alright lads which movie should I rewatch tonight?

or should I finally watch suicide squad?

>>84741465
>Top Row
The hands are in the wrong frames, the object in the hand are not extending in a similar direction, and the scenes have no thematic mirroring. Making these shots stupid.

>Second Row
Again with this Jesus Christ/Christian shit. He could at least try and be clever about it.

>Third Row
Why is Bruce touching the black goo from Prometheus?

>Bottom Row
So cringe worthy. I bet all those guys Batman murdered earlier in the movie probably would've been fine if they just screamed their mothers name was Martha.

>>84748557
So Zach visited an art museum and decided to do his best to imitate it in a capeshit movie?

>>84749082
Save MoS and BvS for November. If you're going to watch SS pick the extended cut.

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How will top alpha Snyder recreate this scene?

>>84742601
>tfw you realize Snyder has been stealing shots from one of the greatest directors of all time because he has no ideas of his own.

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>>84743609

>>84749082
For the love of christ dont watch SS.

Mos and then bvs

>>84749290
>it's another pleb cant understand visual parallels and symbolism episode

>>84747452
>what is side characters written to be killed off for the development of main characters without majorly affecting the plot

>>84748659
>Because it was real

wasn't that from the hobbit?

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>>84749407
>tfw you know so little about art that you think alluding to other artists is "ripping off"

i don't know this feel

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The Knightmare scene is pretty fucking cool. Honestly one of the best Batsuit designs.

>>84744670
>how do you cut the Gordian Knot
>Cut that shit
>How do you kill Superman
>Just create a really strong guy
POTTERY

>>84743470
Big movies, and especially action or CGI heavy movies, are generally storyboarded very heavily so they don't waste time on shoot days. It's almost certainly intentional and something that was planned early on

>>84747016
>Based Patrick Wilson as Orm
wasn't he the voice of the president in BvS? what did they mean by this?

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>>84752358
>dude you're just imagining things lmao

>dude snyder and terrio are just as dumb as i am lmao

>>84748659
>less than 3
hahahhahahahahaha

>>84742740
Pure PopKino

>>84748659
FAKE QUOTES

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>>84752463
wew

Can you dank memesters just admit that the film wasn't very good, and overloading something with obvious symbolism can't redeem a pile of shit?

>>84753046
yeah bro huge DC fan here BVS IS SHIT LMAO!

>>84753046
but why do you think it was bad

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>>84753091
>>84753073
stop replying to redditors

>>84747097
sup reddit

>>84753091
Shitty performances, shitty writing, and shitty directing. About the only redeeming feature is the Ben Affleck's portrayal of a serial killer.

It's the DaVinci code of capeshit.

>>84753215
but why do you think those things were shitty? "shitty" doesn't really mean anything outside of letting us know (again) that you didn't like them.

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>>84753215
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

nobody cares what you think, or what your shitty reddit pleb opinions. you have to go back.

>>84753046
I can see you pounding your head against the wall.

>WHY. WON'T. THEY. LIKE. THE. MOVIES. I. LIKE????

Can you admit that you've got a noose in your closet?

>>84753259
>shitty performances.
I consider it a film with 3 main actors. Wonder Woman doesn't have enough screen time to put her in the main category, but she was alright.

The three main characters are of course, Batman, Superman, and Lex. I don't have an issue with Affleck's Batman.

Lex Luthor: I'll ignore for the moment how Lex should be, and instead focus on the character they were actually trying to portray. They wanted Lex to be a sinister figure, intelligent, and I think Charismatic. Though it's hard to tell with this last one, because in all respects, Jessie fell short. He came across not as this powerful, philosophically motivated and charming man, but more a middle school boy spouting philosophy he didn't understand and didn't think through.

Superman: Henry Cavill doesn't have the emotional range to play the standard depiction of superman, let alone the brooding, complex mess that they wanted him to portray.

>writing
The movie is full of plot holes, and Lex's plan is incredibly bad if you think about it. The philosophical discussions are intro level at best, and not well thought out. The entire movie hinges on a single, pivotal scene, the basis of which is absurd. Yes, I'm talking about the Martha scene.

>directing
This ties slightly into the other two, but the director allowed all of this on the screen. He allowed Eisenberg to do that incredibly bad performance. Additionally, the symbolism is so blatant as to be cringe inducing. Symbolism is most powerful when it is subtle, when the audience knows something was there, but can't quite put their finger on it until further analysis and thought, and then, in a magic moment, they find it for themselves. There's nothing of that here. instead the director throws blatant jesus symbolism into every shot like he's practicing for the next Davinci Code, and then has the characters point it out to you in some cases.

someone pls make a gif or webm of :20 - :22 seconds in, batman's reaction is hilarious, kinda like that robocop gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VxQHdDDCO4

>>84754078
I don't know if 3:03 is intentional or not but I find it funny how Batman just stands there while WW and Supes are doing all the fighting.

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>>84754078

>>84754904
there's a place in heaven for you my guy. thank you

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beware of the Mousecuck fellow DChads, our dear prophet even gave us a clear portrait of them so you can spot them immediately.

>>84743373
He'd be fucking dead

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>>84753991
>watches villain spend the entire movie lying to people and putting up a false front
>thinks he reveals his plan or his reason to the hero because Hollywood

It's like you're still swallowing tropes cape movies were making fun of ten years ago or something.

>>84753654
Its better because it's so dense, every single image has so many things going on

>>84749082
Watch SS if for no other reason than the one thing it did really well: Subtle world-building.

Watch it, pay attention to the conversations that Waller and the Enchantress have with other characters, then acquaint yourself with the plot points of the old comic miniseries "Legends."

>>84756524
movie lex never comes off as sufficiently intelligent to lie

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I like this thread. Snyder is geniunely a visual storyteller.

Heyo DC peeps.

Watched the Ultimate Cut for the first time last night. It was pretty great, but for the first time I could finally see where the criticisms came from. Snyder's really good at making individual scenes, you can see evidence at this just by looking at Youtube and see everyone calling it a masterpiece. As a whole movie though, there's really something missing connecting it all, the pacing feels off sometimes.

What troubled me the most is that the Martha scene didn't affect me as much as it did when I first saw it in theaters. I swear, I almost teared seeing Batman panic over the thought of his mother. Maybe it's because I wasn't paying as much as attention on my rewatch.

I think the first time really blew me away, as someone who was accustomed to Marvel movies, it was really something else and made me a bit overwhelmed how divisive it was to a regular Superhero film.

>>84747525
The Lazarus Pit, you pleb.
Think of Ras al ghul