Holy shit, LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG

So Vulture was the Blue Collar Man trying to survive in the world of tech billionaires and Norwegian Gods?

>>84732951
>Norwegian
REEEE
You know it's called Scandinavian mythology for a reason, don't you?

>>84733057
t. swede

>>84733086
I'm Russian actually.

>>84732951
They finally got a villain that didn't quip.
I'm proud of disney.

>>84732951
Uhmm, no, sweetie....

He's white and privileged therefore he's extremely dangerous and a danger to society.

>>84732951
/ourguy/

>>84733192
>>84733012
>>84732951
D-Fens of our days.

>>84732951

great villain

no shill

he's just a family man trying to provide for his black wife and mulatto kid, based keaton

>>84732951
He's a FUCKING WHITE MALE.

>>84732951
Well if this it's real then he literally did nothing wrong.

>>84733192
Strange, he doesn't *seem* like a total fuck-up.

>>84732951

You forgot to mention the part where he kills countless people.

>>84733230
bernie supporting liberals are not "based", anon

>>84732951
it's obama's fault. Trump would never have let that happen

>>84732951

He also could have easily finished Peter off on the beach, but spared his life.

His daughter was way too black looking to be his biological kid though.

>>84733474
>one drop

>>84733417
Besides accidentally disintegrating Shocker #1, list other people he killed.

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>>84733460

>>84733474
They have different last names, so...

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>>84733474
>He also could have easily finished Peter off on the beach

>>84733474
The mom was a dark enough that I could buy the daughter was only half that.

>>84733183
>No quip villain
>Disney
It was Sony that did it, the mouse wasn't involved in anything

>>84733160
I am so sorry for you anon. Keep going, I'll root for you.

>>84733160
When are russians gonna take arms against their tyrannical government?

>>84732951
>movie makes villain eil
>"BLAND"
>movie makes villain waver or questionable
>"LITTERAY did nothing wrong"

Why did Toomes and the daughter have different surnames?

>>84733640
The daughter's surname is never brought up.

>>84733674
Oh, okay.

>>84733640

So they could have a "wat a twist" moment.

>>84732951
He was probably the only part of the movie I enjoyed.

They really broke the mold by making him likable and not killing him off.

>>84733640
Toomes was a cuck.

>>84732951
>LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG
he's an old white male, that alone is wrong.

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What the fuck are you guys talking about, pic related is Toomes/Vultures daughter.

>>84733788
dumb frogposter

>>84733788

Look at her eyes, you just KNOW.

>>84733697

>implying you saw it coming

It was a good twist and the car drive was great. I think that's the first time in capeshit history someone has actually figured out that X and Y are never in the same room so X is Y.

>>84733881
More like the first time someone actually figured out that wearing a full-body jumpsuit doesn't conceal your height, build or voice at all. Like in the first Spider-man with Maguire when he saves MJ and drops her off on a roof, "just your friendly neighbourhood spider-man", and she has no fucking idea.

>>84733737
That's some fine late virtue signaling there, anon.

>>84733474
How much interracial shit is there in this film?

>phase throw walls so you can steal stuff you can sell for money instead of just stealing money

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>>84734208
Does it even matter? However slight the actual amount it'll always be enough to set the disapproving matrons on /tv/ swooning.

>>84733249
>he's a FUCKING WHITE MALE
you mean like..
>green goblin in Spider-Man
>doc oc in Spider-Man 2
> harry Osborne, venom and sandman in Spider-Man 3
>lizard in ASM
>rhino, harry Osborne in ASM2

With the exception of shocker, every Spider-Man movie since Raimis has had the villain as a FUCKING WHITE MALE

>>84734208
As much as the Jew could cram in.

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>>84733881
The car drive was an ad for the car, it was weird because why would peter need a car?

Oh and he stole a car.

>>84734208
Measured by the comics, too much. Measured by reality in Queens, NY, too tame.

>>84733192
For him to be your guy you'd have to actually have worked at least a day in your life.

>>84733586
This movie was made be the all usual bunch of Marvel MCU (DISNEY) producers, like Kevin Feige.

>>84734208
almost the entire film

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>>84734288
why tails smoke ?
it's bad for kid isn't it ?

He was a genuinely sympathetic bad guy

>>84734288
i think you got the wrong car scene

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>>84734422
He wanted to be cool. Like Coldsteel.

>>84732951
Except he was clearly rich enough already and wanted to keep stealing anyway. The guy wasn't doing it for family anymore at some point. It was a missed opportunity that the film didn't point that out and just firmly made him seem like a good guy.

>Didn't watch the trailer
>Saw this guy in the first minute
>Keep expecting him drop a TLC reference the whole movie.
>He didn't

Left the cinema disappointed :(

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>>84734696

Holy Fuck I've never seen this image and I can't breathe...my sides hurts so bad...

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Honestly the Vulture is what made me go from liking to loving this movie.

He's not a super complicated character, but his sobering realist views provided the perfect contrast to youngster Spider-Man. The fact that his motivation is largely hidden for most of the movie makes the twist so good, it really is a "oh shit" moment and you instantly understand him.

Also, I loved that Spider-Man actually listened and learned from him. Not just 'You bad guy I stop you!", it made their chemistry feel much more real.

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>>84734833

So did they kill him off like every other marvelshit movie?

>>84735035
Nope Spidertwink saved his life

>>84733417
>>84733505
Shocker #1 was made out to be such a dick anyways that there wasn't any sadness over his death. And the other guy replaced him so there's no feeling that we lost a henchman of value.

>>84734906
hola reddit

>>84734269
doc-oc isn't white in that movie

>>84733533
I'd like to be finished off on the beach - sounds comfy.

>>84736110
Alfred Molina is spanish-italian, he's not one of your american "hispanics".

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>>84735984
And Shocker #2 is Friendly Mike Milligan!

Bokeem Woodbine is solid, just wish he'd get to play more characters with charisma.

>>84734815
>Except he was clearly rich enough already and wanted to keep stealing anyway. The guy wasn't doing it for family anymore at some point. It was a missed opportunity that the film didn't point that out and just firmly made him seem like a good guy.

He was obviously well off, but if he stopped he would most likely run out of money sooner or later. He says that he has "one last job" as well to his wife, implying he would be able to retire.

This was probably the funniest of all of Marvel's movies. When did you laugh the hardest? For me it was when Spidey was on the news, and their stock photo of him was his stepping out of a portopotty.

>>84734241

>steal thousands of dollars
>steal things you can sell for tens of thousands of dollars

Gee, that was hard

>>84736322
I laughed way harder at the "I'm actually going that way." than I probably should've.

The way they made fun of that cliche was pretty hilarious.

>>84733638
You can safely add "Did nothing wrong" to your filter list. Yeah, you'll miss one good thread out of a hundred, but the others are all shitposts. Like the classic we had last night, "DUCAT DID NOTHING WRONG" and the responses were mostly "He only killed five million Bajorans, he should have killed them all!"

>>84736560
I don't remember that part, when are you referring to?

>>84736723
At the end when he parts with Liz and he awkwardly walks past her instead of coolly walking away.

>>84736340
Or, picture this:
>steal tens of thousands of dollars

I don't know why you've written that off as a possibility to make your point.

You're trying to tell me that the best use of phasing technology is to perform heists to steal volatile technology that your buddy can make into futuristic weapons in your hidden gas station lab, so that you can later sell gravity guns and lasers that can slice through a building across the street to low-level thugs who want to rob ATMs in plain sight.

There's a lot of things wrong with this plan, not including the fact that you could maintain superiority over your enemies by keeping your superior weaponry for yourself instead of having it literally on the streets.

Spider-Man literally sees them demo one of these weapons from miles away and when he gets there, turns out they're offering the weapon to Donald Glover's character who turns out to be driving a hoopty with no rear windows. Which means if nothing else, they're really bad a finding and screening potential clientele.

As opposed to just stealing and laundering cash money or literally anything of value that can be quickly and effortlessly flipped for large sums of cash without first having to be integrated into a laser cannon.

Sorry but what you're saying doesn't make any sense and trying to be cheeky about it does you a disservice.

>>84733586
Sony only paid the bills. Marvel had final say on all creative decisions

>>84736723
A super common cliche in romcoms is having the girl and guy hitting it off and then having them walk away in an attractive fashion.

Peter tries to do this but then suddenly remembers he's going the wrong way and awkwardly walks past her.

>>84733929

But Norman figured out his identity

>>84732951

Keaton is a national treasure.

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>capeshit thread

Everyone replying to this thread unironically needs to be shot

>>84737223
Says the Naruto frogposter.

Keaton also didn't phone it in

So Marvel is what 30 movies in and you have
One decent villain: Vulture
Two alright villains: Ego and Loki, guess even Ultron since I dont read comics
And the rest are pure trash

>>84737338
Zemo wasn't bad either.

>>84737338
Ultron could've been great but Wheadon ruined him with his dumbass quips.

Spader sounded menacing as fuck, what a waste.

>>84737338
Goblin, Doc Ock, and Sandman from the original three are the best villains marvel has ever had

WHY THE FUCK didn't they play the emo tony card?
confused/emo Tony should have lost a 1 on 1 with vulture, then Spidey should have saved him.

i really wanted some continuation and effect from Civil War..

but i guess they consciously decided "lets not make this about Tony"

>>84737338
Zemo was great, Loki is still great.
Keaton was pretty good.
Ego was good.

Winter soldier in cap 2 is good as is alexander Pierce
Ironman 2's russian was good.
Redskull was good enough
Ultron was okay as a wannabe human.

>>84733637
>tyrannical government
>Putin
Pick uno.

Is there a reason why the Vulture couldn't be black? I mean both his wife and daughter are black, there's really no reason to make him white other than for the WHAT A TWEEST moment.

>>84737733
I pick both, Mexican.

>>84737850
Was there any reason not to? Other than you wanting the wife to be white and the dad to be black.

>>84736965

OK, how about it being relatively safer in terms of arousing the suspicion of law enforcement to stick to stealing stuff that is going to just be locked away in a massive vault.

Robbing a bank is a pretty public crime and it would be easier to keep behind the scenes, selling weapons for cash. Arms dealers exist in the real world, why don't they just deal drugs or rob pawn shops instead?

The Vulture suit seemed like the most superior tech they had and they kept that for themselves.

I can't really explain them selling to some random street thug, that was a little too "thrown in to advance the plot".

>>84733533
>Mr. Gamgee, I'm Hobbiton.

>>84737887
For diversity of course, there's not many black villains in marvel. In this case, it actually makes sense because most blacks are poor and it gives more weight to the reason why vulture had to do what he did.

>>84737952

Except he already had a perfectly decent job before turning to crime.

>>84737607
I agree ecspecially for the first two. but I refferring to just the Marvel Cinematic Shared Movie Universe villians

Consider that all his heists were super well planned too and all completely victimless

phase in, grab shit, phase out

he's on a higher level than bank robbers except his cronies keep fucking up

>>84737607
>>84737987
Dafoe is a reddit meme and Sandman was forced muh daughter shit that only served to take a shit on Ben Parker's death. Dock Ock was the only decent one and even then his motivation was just retarded mind control.

>>84732951
Does his men even do anything that bad?


In the trailers I just saw them stealing from atm machines, who does that really hurt? Nobody but jews, and not even that much since money is FDIC insured.


Did his men actually do anything fucked up?

>>84733474
The actress Laura Harrier is literally biracial

>>84738140
shooting off dangerous explosive alien weapons in central park at odd hours of the morning exploding stuff

hmmmmm

>>84738181
>Guns are dangerous


Spotted the liberal.


Besides from what I saw most of the guns just do anti-grav stuff and shoot electricity, any guns in the movie do nuclear shit or do lazers?

>>84738325
not sure if this dudes joking or if his life has become an actual meme

At least he beats Peter in the final battle. That's better than 95% of MCU villains already.

>>84737608
Yeah, tony was too normal.
But like you said, they probably didn't want to make it about him.

>>84733160
BTFO by the Finns. Literally the Mexicans of Scandinavia.

>>84737607
>Sandman

Urgh no.

>>84733183
>Whiplash
>Abomination
>Red Skull
>Malekith
>Winter Soldier
>Ronan

Probably some I missed too.

>>84738140
I wasnt sure if those were actually his men or not. They seemed like customers trying out the new tech and got stupid when Spider-man arrived.

>>84736971
I thought it was the other way around, marvel footed the bill, sony made the movie, and sony gets all the profits from the movie and marvel gets all the merchandising.

>>84732951

Vulture and Obidiah Stane/War Monger are the only well done villains in the MCU in my opinion.

I thought for sure Toomes was a goner once he found out who Peter was. If they don't bring Keaton back, that's a big mistake. They could actually make a sinister six thing work since Vulture was the original leader. They got a good start with Vulture, but I bet they drop the ball. Other than Loki, I can't think of a single recurring villain. I highly doubt they get Keaton back since he doesn't seem like the type t do a contract.

>>84740274
>Other than Loki, I can't think of a single recurring villain.
Tony

Is Norman Osborn in this at all? Or do they just mention his company? I wanted Keaton to be old Norm, oh well.

Why is Keaton always the flying cape man?

>>84740425
Nope, don't them mentioning any Osborns at all

Does eminent domain or liquidity not exist in MCU? How can the government take away Keaton's contract to clean up alien scraps without paying any liability insurance?

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>>84732951
>Listen carefully Peter, I'm going to tell you something important. See in this life, there is no greater ecstasy for a white men like us to experience than that of interracial sex with a bodacious lady of color. My own grandfather called it 'jungle fever'. Dipping your sausage into that dark cavern will expose to you your true nature. I still have dreams of my first encounter with a lady of African descent. There was no going back to blank milk toast for me after that. Back when I was young, before I got married that is, I practically went through the entire shade catalogue of African temptresses that this sweer earth has to offer. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that those 5 years of wild sex in college changed me and made me the man I am today. I remember one night I slept with an entire dorm of black women... So I want you to know that IF you do not show my ebony daughter the time of her life this evening, I swear to god I will kill you and everyone you love!

His first line in the film calls Native Americans "Indians".
Unless you don't think racism is wrong...

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>>84732951
I can support his cause but he was obviously serving himself considering he owned a super fancy home in New York City
His guys must have all been paid off by then, so by continuing his business he was endangering thousands for his own gain.

>>84734260
>numale

>>84740578
Good one.

I bet Keaton was thinking "why do I have this fucking racist line to make my character look like an ignorant racist... fucking acting"

>>84740578
Indians isn't racist.

>>84740425
>>84740478

Since Stark moved out of the tower, I'm hoping Oscorp buys it and sets up shop in the next movie.

>>84736578
Ares was the hero of WW. A prophet.

>>84740721
Honestly I am hoping Pete finds the black suit during infinity war so the sequel can be a less rushed movie about Venom

>>84740635
>I bet Keaton was thinking "why do I have this fucking racist line to make my character look like an ignorant racist... fucking acting"
But he fucks nigresses. How can he be WACIST?

>>84740578
That was pretty good, I was expecting him to make a comeback response but probably learned to stay silent in that line of work.

Best MCU villain and it's not even close.

This rendition of the Vulture was so much better I bet they'll start rewriting him in the comics to be more like him. His popularity will definitively skyrocket.

>>84733474
Never seen obama before?

>>84741257
>that line of work
What? They were blue collar workers who probably cussed like sailors and said racist ignorant shit all the time due to having little to no education, but somehow enough to reverse engineer alien technology.

>>84741286
What is his characterization in the comic anyway? I remember in the cartoon he was an old man who used his company and tech for crime to go after a fountain of youth type formula or something.

>>84741326
The guy whose job was reverse engineering that shit was the same guy who said "actually, it's 'Native Americans.'"

Clearly he was an outlier. Working well below his level because he was bored being smart and in behind a computer screen. And it isn't like his character was arrested, so, that John Hodgman-sounding motherfucker will be back.

>>84741237
>Implying COLONIZED isn't racist as fuck

>>84732951
DOESN'T MATTER OP HE WAS FUCKIN' WHITE LOL TRUMP BTFO WHITE MEN MUST PAY FOR 50000000 YUEARS OF SALVERY

>>84733533
I love when assholes take this children's cartoon serious.

You guys remember that they said Tony was selling Stark Tower? I bet the buyer is going to be OsCorp.

>>84741955
Or Reed Richards.

>>84742054

Property of Fox, sorry.

>>84732951
>DID NOTHING WRONG

Yeah he was just selling bombs and nukes to thugs.

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>>84742116
>Spider-Man, property of Sony, can never appear in Disney's MCU

>The Fantastic Four, property of Fox, can never appear in Disney's MCU

>>84742189
Stark did that and got a chance to be a hero.

>>84742398
No, he didn't.

>Pre-screeners and critics said "the villain is meh, just typical MCU villain"

What? This is finally a good MCU villain right here along with Ego.

>>84740425

Nope, they avoiding things the last 5 movies focused on.

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What's the takers on the number of shill comments in this thread. I'm thinking a lowball of 15-25%, but they know just how to get (you)s to keep the convo going. The most obvious "shill" comments are probably LARPers, but I can't discount lazy shills I guess.

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>>84732951

I'm watching the cam and I literally grimaced as Peter started longingly at this walking by in the hall while dreamy music played.

>>84741350
Originally, he just wanted revenge on his business partner who screwed him over and then fixated on revenge against Spider-Man for screwing him over.

Over time it shifted to him being an old man who likes being a supervillain because it makes him feel young and powerful, which led to his "seeking for the Fountain of Youth" phase.

Lately they've introduced his long-lost black daughter and grandson with cancer. He's doing it for them now.

Was he ever referred to as , or called himself, The Vulture in the entire film? By name?

>>84740425
The movie doesn't repeat anything at all and feels fresh as fuck, it's actually surprising considering the mess of films that came before and the amount of brain dead execs meddling in these movies.

Homecoming doesn't have the "heart" of Raimi's SM2 ( nor does it go for that angle ) but everywhere the previous movies failed, this one nails perfectly, even with all the nitpicking I can do. Take that as you will.

>>84743283
feige is a god and doesn't get enough credit sometimes

he did the hollywood impossible and made a sony big budget film that was well-received and financially successful

>>84743283
>>The movie doesn't repeat anything at all
Except the "omg the bad guy is secretly my buddy's/crush's father and he knows who I am" thing like the Green Goblin.

>>84732951
>reeee! muh 1%! we must overthrow the system! I'm going to kill innocent people just to make a buck but I'm still morally better than Stark and the rest of the other cis scum! reeeee!
That's how Vulture sounds right now.

>>84743431
And the "saving my crush from falling" scene. And the secret identity shenanigans at home. And pretty much everything fight-wise, down to the remote controlled wing rig that's a blatant copy of Green Goblin's.

>>84738081
Kys

>>84743431
>Except the "omg the bad guy is secretly my buddy's/crush's father and he knows who I am" thing like the Green Goblin.

Yeah, no. The audience knew who Norman was from the very first second and you accompany his progress into madness, there's no surprise and no twist whatsoever there. You can't even compare the two situations and I feel worse for having to read your retardation.

>>84737733
That's a weird way to spell 'both'

>>84743431
I think part of being Peter Parker is that the villains he goes up against usually have some personal connection to him. It's his shitty luck that being Spider-Man will always fuck up his personal life.

>>84733191
Has a black wife though.

>>84734906

Fuck off and die.

Why does a guy with zillions of arms dealing dollars send his daughter to some plebian highschool in Queens?

>>84741326
Doesnt have to do with education, just what he was used to hearing. Turned his reminascing into a political statement, like I am sure the character was ready to say something. They were under contract, so he didnt want to risk the job by coming back. When he lost his job was when he let loose and decked that other guy.

Or I am over analyzing a small statement that probably just said that for laughs.

>>84743942
did you pay attention anon, it's a science & tech focused academy. basically mid tier level education, which considering the NYC public education system is a fucking great school

the opening scene of the movie is about him losing his contract, he can make ends meet but he's not a zillionaire. once he starts stealing shit he's comfortable but a super high level education for a teenager is out of his ballpark financially

>>84743272

Yes. Peter leaves a note next to him when he's webbed up that says "Here's this vulture guy" and some other stuff.

>>84743942
>Why does a guy with zillions of arms dealing dollars send his daughter to some plebian highschool in Queens?
Because he trusts in the liberal controlled public school system, duh! He obviously knows that Democrats have our best interests at heart!

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>>84743942
>>84744029
actually now that i look at it, it's not some shit tier school at all

that is a great high school for anybody in queens

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>>84737891
>I can't really explain them selling to some random street thug, that was a little too "thrown in to advance the plot".

It was a long running theme in the comics that low level street thugs in NYC were getting super-tech and using just to rob armored cards and shit.

Villains were often scientsits capable of creating anti gravity weaponry and shit like that but then used it to steal diamonds. Others simply stole prototype power armor and shit like that to become super-street criminals.

it was always the runnign joke that they could have sold the patent for millions and instead of using their one-off prototype for petty street crime. This is what spider man is all about.

>>84733086
Even in the epic Beowulf the eternal Swede is an Enemy of the white race.

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I liked him, Keaton did a really good job. It genuinely was an "oh shit" moment when he opened the door at Liz's home.

Is this the best Marvel antagonist we've had so far? Loki might be up there.

>mfw he offers to take them to prom.

>>84733637
When will americans, and I don't mean "le drumpfxdddd" i mean the entire us government, cia, fbi, etc.
t. American

>>84744243
>Don't let him intimidate you

>>84732951
>WAAAH IT'S THE WORLD'S FAULT IF I CAN'T ADAPT TO A CHANGING WORLD! It's (((their))) fault and Stark is probably a jew too!
So he was the typical white person

>>84744102
>No Child Left Behind

>>84744296
Ummm... one of his early line's is "The world's changing – time we change too."

>>84744243
>oh shit
Really? People at theater were laughing their ass off during that. It was a legit twist, but comes across as the usual spidey shit tier luck.

>>84744585
>people can only respond to something in one way and one way only

>>84733417
We only knew that he killed the Shocker stand-in because he used the wrong weapon and he doesn't take enjoyment out of killing, just protecting his family and teaching a lesson to the rest of his men to not fuck around.

>>84744664
People don't respond to oh shit moment with laughter.

>>84744805
Nah bro people are allowed to respond one way or another over a particular scene. It's like when people laughed during Logan after Professor X died and Logan went apeshit with the shovel.

>>84741399
Isn't he the alien with time traveling device in MiB 3?

>>84742277
Watching this movie makes me realize that Fox should just give up and share the rights of F4 with Marvel. They're the only one who knows what they are doing with their comic properties.

>>84744664
>>84744805
>>84744879

I've had audiences laugh in decidedly not-funny scenes before, for example: Théoden crying for his son at the family crypt. It's a way to relieve tension for some people.

That jacket
I must have it

>Ned Leeds is a chink
>MJ Watson is a nig
>Liz Allen is a nig
>Flash Thompson is a pajeet
>Shocker is a nig

muh forced diversity
>Scorpion is a spic

>>84745132
Spider is a fagget

>>84743764
He's the Bill Burr of Marvel villains?

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>>84745132
>set in NY
What did you expect faggot

>>84744135
I think it was implied that it it was a selective school for smart kids.

>>84744243
That was really clever to make Spider-mans villain and every highschool boys most intimidating figures into one character: the scariest moment for both Peter and Spider-man. Whoever made that twist deserves an award.

>>84745132
I'll be honest I liked pajeet flash. I thought changing it from stereotypical football jock to "nerd jock" was refreshing. He was a rich smart douche instead of the captain of the football team trope.

WHEN I SAY PENIS YOU SAY PARKER

>>84745397
PENIS!

>>84745132
>>84745397
The actor's some kind of hispanic. His name is Tony Ravioli or something similar. I thought he was a pajeet too after watching Grand Budapest Hotel in which he plays some kind of middle-eastern guy.

I'd argue he's a more realistic bully anyhow. It's usually spazzy kids with some kinda complex who bully people like that, not the handsome sporty guys who in my experience are nice enough people.

>>84745397
I think this was one of Homecoming's best aspects, they managed to modernize a lot of Spider-man's aspects and it worked very well for the most part. Frankly, Marvel's comic department should take some notes from this movie.

>>84744102
because it would draw attention. besides his wife is probably a lawyer or something.

I unironically think this is the best MCU movie and quite possibly the greatest capeflick of all time.

The two things that drag it down is feeling a bit too generic MCU capeshit at times (though most of the time it doesn't) and Michelle; who frankly was fucking terrible and all of her jokes were everything I hate about "weird girl humor".

Basically everything else I adored. It's geniunely uplifting and inspiring, which feels rare for superhero movies ironically enough. Holland was great, Keaton was amazing and the twist was perfect. I even fucking laughed at a couple of jokes. It actually feels like Marvel listened to people complaining about MCU starting to feel stale and answered with this movie. It almost cured my superhero fatigue, almost.

>>84736322
definetly when aunt may said what the fuck[sppoiler]

>>84734241
>marked and tracked bills
>unmarked bills
there you go
also
plot

>>84734906
at least try to hide it newbabby

Interesting how nobody questioned how the NYC-exclusive Spiderman showed up in DC for a day just to rescue a bunch of kids from NYC

>>84740544
It's funny because he'd probably be cool with Peter banging his daughter.

>>84746451
Probably because he's associated with the Avengers in some capacity. They get around a lot.

>>84741237
You can have a sexual attraction to another race and still hold a sense of superiority.

Is it just me or he doesn't have spider sense anymore?

>>84745397

t. Marvel shill

Ehrm buddy, I have some bad news for you... Venom isn't coming. Mac Gargan is probably just there for show and tell.

Bane has been casted as Venom for his own film by Sony because that's what they agreed on. Everything related to but not Spiderman himself can be on their end of the Marvel table.

Or they are going to shit the bed and change Mac Gargan into Carnage. Could be anyone's guess. Those slimy chinks just need to let go of a franchise and not suck on it like some slushy with all the flavour sucked out.

>>84746529
No it's Stark[tm] sense now.

>>84745397
I liked him a lot, he had the most personality of the 3 Flash's so far. And stronk bullyboy character isn't really interesting because all of us know that Peter isn't actually in danger, it's just a matter of time until he ends up besting BigFlash in some way since he's actually physically superior. Having it be some little turbomanlet that serves a Lex Luthor type role that can't just be punched gives him more value to the narrative.

>>84733869
they do'nt bulge like a frogs do, i don't see what people hate about her

>>84746558
I agree with him, pajeet Flash was good, sexy aunt May was good, the only shit one was MJ; who to be fair really was total fucking garbage.

Most of the changes this movie made worked imo. They took the fucking Vulture and made him the best MCU villain.

>>84746529
In Civil War there's a moment where he's facing toward the camera and behind him Bucky throws some big object at him, and he knows it's coming before turning around while saying "Oh God", so who knows. Might just be his heightened senses as he puts it, but he needs to use them and pay attention to actually take advantage rather than having some magical sense that operates independent of his attention.

>>84746529
I think he does, as anon put it>>84746706, but they haven't used it like the other movies where they make a mini scene out of showing Peter zone in on whatever is tingling it. Example: the end of 1 where he senses goblins glider

>>84734208
Take a walk in Queens sometimes, it actually was realistic.

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>>84733057
Thor aint KEK hence Norwegian. Also we gonna rewrite all that mythology towards Norway and act as Sweden never happened.

>>84735035
>implying they can afford to kill off any of Spidey's villains
He has one of the worst rogue's galleries of any of the big superheroes, maybe the worst.
>Either Gobby
>Vulture
>Venom/Carnage
>Sandman is pushing jobber territory
Everything else is a joke

what do you think keaton thinks about playing a literal birdman

Anybody else like the voice he used when he talked to his classmates after saving them. Probably the most genuine laugh i got out of the movie

>>84746906
I forgot Doctor Octopus and decided Sandman is full-on jobber.

>>84735984
Shocker #1 is Jackson "Montana" Brice, one of Spiderman's earliest villains. He isn't that important but I would've liked to have seen him with the other enforcers in the future.

>>84746906
Truthfully thats a marvel problem in general. Most of their heroes only have a few really good recurring bad guys. It's not DC where half the justice league has some pretty good rogues galleries

>>84746917
Probably just means Keaton doesn't have a stick up his ass and knows you should accept a decent paycheck for a decent character.

>>84743764

white male/black female relationships are racist because they are a continuance of master/slave rape culture

>>84746917
He probably finds it funny. Him doing Birdman was proof that he's more than happy to joke about his biggest roles being superhero related.

>>84746906
Spider-Man's villains being good or not doesn't really matter that much, what matters is that they are memorable and can easily be molded into something more interesting, like this movie showed.

Mysterio, Scorpion, Kraven, the list goes on. None of these characters are super interesting writing wise, but they are iconic; and you can do fun stuff with them.

>>84736220
I knew he looked familiar!
But yeah, shocker sucks

>>84747250
The problem is that they aren't even iconic. Those five/seven (two of which are the same idea on a different character) are the only villains a layman would be able to name and Sandman wouldn't be on that list if not for the movie. Hell, the layman won't even know about Hobgoblin or Carnage. Vulture is only known for being the old guy dressed as a vulture. Those character concepts and designs are straight out of sixties-era "THE WALL" writing.

>>84747353
It was bothering me throughout the whole film. It had A LOT of recognisable faces in general.

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>>84744135
>making the football/soccer/lacrosse field angled

FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE OTHER TO TRIGGER ME

>>84736220
hes got my vote as Dave Chappelle biopic

>>84733057
>You know it's called Scandinavian mythology for a reason, don't you?

I thought it was called Norse Mythology because it's from Norway.

So he is basically Trump. Pathetic.

>>84744135
Looks like my old high school. Trust me, it's a shithole.

>>84733881
Osborn did it on the first spiderman movie

>>84747618
It's called norse mythology because it's from the norsemen, ie the people who inhabited scandinavia. The modern divide between sweden, denmark and norway wasn't as pronounced back then and was more related to tribes. Sweden for example was inhabited by two larger tribes (ie peoples) known as the Geats (or Goths) and the Swedes which were unified at some point. The swedish king was known as The King of the Swedes, the Goths, and the Wends up until the mid 70s when the current king got the crown and simplified it to King of Sweden.

A lot of what we know about norse mythology was compiled by an icelandic monk some hundred years after the peninsula was christianised.

>>84747353
>>84747470

I remember him from the Total Recall remake.

>>84733057
Not all Scandinavians though. I'm pretty sure the Swedes worship Allah.

>>84732951
>Bitches about money
>Proceeds to live in a lovely expensive house.

He's an idiot, or he was too scared to provide poverty to his family which is interesting.

>>84747595
Are you me?

>>84747548
That's not too strange, it's leaving a small section for Track and Field

why the hell did they show captain america clips when captain america is basically criminal traitor in this timeline now?

did marvel basically admit now that civil war was a complete unnecessary movie?

>>84747953

I imagine the house came after his shady business started paying off.

>>84747953

He only bitched about money at the start of the movie when he was a poor contractor who hit it big with a government contract and dumped all his money into preparing for a big haul. He stopped bitching about money when he was a successful black market weapons salesman.

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>oh, you're sad because a girl at your high-school doesn't like you back? Peter, when I was your age, I left school to bullseye gooks from a helicopter in the middle of some god forsaken jungle. Don't tell me you have it hard because you're a pathetic kissless virgin. You can act sad when you have to leave behind the lady-boy you fell in love with and made passionate steamy love to in a collapsing bamboo shack, just like I did. You think I felt good about firebombing his chink village and watching our fuck-hut burn to the ground? We were going to build our lives together there, Peter! You know what? Fuck you. Get the fuck out of my car.

>>84748031
Did you miss the part were the gym teacher said he was a war criminal but he has to show the shit videos. Or did you not watch the movie and just see the stuff on the trailer?

>>84748031
the gym teacher directly referenced that fact, by saying he's supposed to be a wear criminal now.

the point of the video was to give off the "shitty public school vibe" in the marvel universe

>>84748096
He did it throughout the film, I'm convinced he was kidding himself.

>>84748031
>>84748117
I'm pretty sure the joke is that the state just never bothered to change it. In my high school we were still being showed weird educational shit from 20 years ago and I lived in a typical middle-class suburb.

>>84748186
Yeah I was just asking if your going off the trailer or not?

We had shit in my high school that the teacher would show up as a joke since half of them had shit like "BY the year 2000 we will have colonized the moon" and "How to survive a nuclear attack" that had to be in the mid to late 90s.

>>84748158

People in big houses complain about money all the time. See: The entire American middle class that thinks it's being financially crushed to death with no recourse, despite living in 5-bedroom houses with 4 kids and owning 3 cars. They're too stupid to realize that the only thing threatening them is their own mindless lifestyle inflation. They could live in a smaller house, own fewer cars, or have fewer kids; but no, it's the government and taxes and those damnable rich people that are the problem.

>think /tv/ and /pol/ are trolling about MJ being a trans BLM activist
>watch Homecoming
>MJ is super butch and tough, with short hair, gruff, and only wears man's clothes
>school goes on field trip to Washington monument, MJ refuses to go inside and says she won't enter a "structure that was built by slaves". The white teacher says "I'm sure the Washington monument wasn't built by slaves!" and looks for confirmation from a black park ranger who shrugs and makes a "maybe" gesture. Teacher is suddenly frightened and tells MJ she doesn't have to go in

I can't believe this shit.

>>84748315
She's not being passed off as a cool character who's always right, just as someone who intentionally isolates themselves by being as edgy as possible for whatever reason.

>>84748390
This.

The joke of her character is that she's overly edgy and has no friends.

>>84746256

I honestly feel with white MJ who could act and without the forced-diversity misscasting of side characters this could have been the greatest spider man movie ever made. As it was its still very good

Isnt it weird that a small time contractor crew creates much better weaponry that the nazi super scientists?

>>84740544
this scene really got me thinking

>>84734288
Because he was in the burbs and couldn't web sling. Hope Spiderman 2 has more manhattan swingin.

>>84748446
did the nazi scientists have access to purple alien dildos?

>>84748474
Yea, major plot from avengers 2

>>84748474

Yes.

>>84748307
Middle class people hate the poor not the rich.

The rich has been killing the middle class for years, and they point the finger at the poor saying they are stealing resourses from them by being a burden on the system.

Lets kill the rich and eat the poor, that's my solution.

>>84746489
>Yes Peter, do it, your children will be the ultimate race. Thrust Harder, their kind need to feel your full weight slam into their haunches with every push.
>Yes sir.

>>84747548
Hammer Throw, Shot Put, Javelin in the unhashed triangle area. I've seen it before.

>>84748583

However you cut it, middle class people have plenty of money to live very comfortably, but instead they live way beyond their means and then blame anyone but themselves when it's hard for them to keep up with their own bad financial skills.

>>84734696
>Jinco jeans

I did not need my sides today

>>84748583
Then you will be either rich or poor.

>>84746906

>implying mysterio in a 3d movie wouldnt be pure kino

>>84748667
Oh I was agreeing with you, you just got who they blame wrong, its kinda sad isnt it?

I make enough money to live well, but I still rather have roommates and save. I went through all the shit to buy a house and figured if I wait a year or two I could dramatically drop how much it cost me and leave me with a savings account.

>>84748705
Cycle starts anew then.

>>84732951
Great post Anon.

Don't forget that it was Peter's fault that his daughter was in danger in the first place.

And why wouldn't the Feds investigate what might have been a terrorist attack at the Washington Monument? They would have easily figured out the source of the blast. It clearly came from within the backpack of the fat kid.

>>84733586
Sony had nothing to do with the production of this film Anon

>>84748667
I think you're conflating the working class and middle class, admittedly something most people do. They have very different goals.
>working class
>technically expanding
>actually just getting kicked down the ladder, fewer skilled jobs
>taxes are too high for their income
>competing with immigrants
>actually don't have enough money to maintain their lifestyles

>middle class
>shrinking dramatically
>taxes are too high for an idea of equitable distribution, still have enough money
>competing with themselves, globalism gets them their luxury goods
>basically fighting to continue existing

>>84744135
IRl school is shit. thats near where i live its franklin K lane

>>84737479
I thought Zemo was efficient and having him do what he did for personal reasons instead of the usual megalomaniacal motivations we see in capeshit was pretty good. On the other hand, he had a bland personality and part of his masterplan relied on luck and convenience.

>>84749177
What did I miss? Who's Zemo?

>>84749014
probably still better than PS School #48098209 or whatever at least

>>84749219
Captain America: Civil War's villain. The fact that you forgot about it basically proves what I was referring to when I said he had a bland personality lol

>>84749219

guy from civil war

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>>84749293
Honestly, I'm thinking back on the film and I genuinely cannot remember it even having a villain.

>>84749353

He was the guy who showed Iron Man the video of Winter Soldier killing his parents.

>>84749353
I know, right? That movie actually didn't really need a villain.

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>>84749383
>>84749399
I remember the video but not that anyone showed it to him

what the heck

>>84732951
just wait until sinister six when vulture has enough and reveals spideys identity to the world

>>84749353
Yea, it was really wierd. He was literally just 'some guy'.
Marvel has all these great villians to choose from, but they just can't seem to ever get it right.

>>84738419
That was really great. Having Peter beat Toomes wouldn't really make sense.
Peter was relying solely on his yet-to-be-fully-realized skills and pure will power since Tony took his suit away, but at the same time that was the first time he'd ever faced a threat of that magnitude.

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>>84749448
Here's some visual aid.

>>84746561
>not knowing who Mac Gargan originally was

>>84749569
I know the actor from other films and all I can think of is some scene with snow outside a bunker or something.

>>84749505
I think people forget that Peter's supposed to be 15.

>>84732951
>Did nothing wrong
>Born as a white male
Whoah, not cool

>>84743283
I actually thought this movie had a good heart. The scene where Peter slowly garners enough strenght to lift all of those blocks of concrete after looking at his own reflection in the water next to his mask while screaming his name was a great moment.
Holland is a good actor, he really sells the utter desperation Peter's feeling being left there moments away from being crushed. Personally, It's already one of my favorite moments in the entire MCU so far.

>>84738419
Is this true? Might consider watching this if the villain is no pushover.

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I want to see more heroes fight villains with completely different power sets.
I don't really care to see Kraven on the big screen because he's also a faster stronger human

Who'd play Mysterio well?
Somebody with a spooky voice

>>84749955
Fuck, I remember a friend of mine having some Mysterio action figure like 15 years ago. I'd completely forgotten he existed.

>>84749955
They managed to make the Vulture an intimidating figure, which is a pretty impressive feat in itself. A Mysterio would be great.

>>84743272
People constantly refer to him as "that Vulture guy" and etc.

>>84748446
The fat guy designing the weapons is not your normal scrub. He's supposed to be a supervillain as well.

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>>84750073
>he's a flying guy who makes his living stealing scraps from other people's kills
How meta.

>>84747250
Kraven's Last Hunt is one of the best spider-man stories ever told though

Could Vulture beat Falcon

>>84750165
Yes

>>84750165
Falcon's basically just been that bloke who can fly. Vulture's exo-skeleton and sharpened wings are fucking sick in comparison, he's also Michael Keaton.

>>84733160
>Russia
A kingdom of mongrels founded by a bunch of shitfaced swedes on a gap year trip around the continent

>>84749955
>Mysterio shows up
>gets murdered by that guy from Doctor Strange

>>84749955
I know everyone has said it but I think Bruce Campbell can work.

>Special effects powerhouse and actor in the 80's
>Has been actor now and CGI has replaced practical effects
>Has a shot at a remake/revival of his movies like Ash vs Evil Dead but has no budget
>Wants to steal money using his Mysterio suit from one of his films and his special effects knowledge
>Loves for a moment that he's in the spotlight again when he sees himself in the news
>Get frustrated that Peter doesn't get all his references to classic movies, makes fun of him when he tries to ham up his appearances as Mysterio, and gets mad when Peter "messes up the shot"

>>84750196
Falcon has guns

It's the only advantage I can think of lel

>>84732951
>tried to make ends meet

by committing crimes. That's where he went wrong. Best Spider-Man movie villain and probably best villain in the MCU.

>>84733057
I thought they are called Norse gods

>>84749793
Spidey is generally thrashed around in this movie. Even the Shocker would have done him in if Ned didn't arrive in time.

>>84749955
Kevin Feige said the next film will not be rehashing a villain from the other films.

It's most likely Scorpion, but Mysterio seems like close second place imo. I actually think he could be amazing for this inexperienced Spider-Man, because Mysterio is supposed to be a fraud that uses smokes and mirrors. This fits very well with Homecomings more small-scale lighthearted style. They could have tons of fun with that.

>>84750248
They are. Norse = general scandinavians from about 1,000 years ago.

>>84750212
>Get frustrated that Peter doesn't get all his references to classic movies
Peter's inability to actually name Empire Strikes Back and calling it "that really old movie" in Civil War bothered me more than anything else in that film. No kid who's any level of nerdy would NOT know what Star Wars or the Empire Strikes back is, and then he and his friend are getting excited by a lego Death Star in Homecoming? Bothered me even more, because he's obviously into it.

>>84746878
you realize Sweden gave up on their norse faith long after the norwegians did for christianity, right? Sweden was one of the last norse nations if not the last that converted to christianity.

>>84745362
This. This movie just perfectly intertwined and balanced the heroic part of his life with the personal one, wihich is essential to every competent Spider-Man story, and this twist was just a great culmination of all of that.

>>84750312
Maybe they could have both villains since Homecoming had 3 supervillains work together

>>84750330
>Peter's inability to actually name Empire Strikes Back and calling it "that really old movie" in Civil War bothered me
Don't forget Tony and Rhodes also thought that was a dated reference

Plus Spider-Man was fighting Giant-Man, it was an exciting moment for him so he probably wasn't thinking straight

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>>84750349
Don't bother, man. He's made up his mind.

>>84750382
>Don't forget Tony and Rhodes also thought that was a dated reference
I actually did forget that. All I remember is Rhodes asking Tony how old the kid is, and Tony responding that he didn't carbon-date him.

Star Wars is the biggest movie franchise *ever*, not being aware of Empire Strikes Back is ignorance at this point.

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How do you use him in a Marvel movie

>villain is my friend's dad!
>comments on strength of handshake
>figures out spiderman's identity

These hack writers just stole all their ideas from previous spidermen

Also "I did it to support my family " breaking bad ripoff

That being said keaton vulture was a likable guy and a good dad, refreshing in a world of smug billionaires and annoying quippy shitheads. it was hard to watch knowing he would lose. How many "bad guys" has Tony created by being a selfish dick? Then he defeats them and rewards himself with a champagne party and we're supposed to love him. THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

Vulture was right. Also he was the only watchable part of this teen Disney trash.

RDJ is a faggot and Ironman is a shit tier character no one cared about, he only got to be star of the MCU because Spiderman and the Xmen were taken

>>84750391
Just saying dude, even if Sweden is pretty cucked now I would think Thor would prefer the people that gave up on him last than the people who abandoned him for a peace loving jew with curls the first chance they got.

>>84745397
>>84745753
>>84745969
>>84746592

I liked him too. The bullying comes from a status thing, in this movie that fits like a glove and definitely makes more sense than having Flash be a jock.

>>84750442
>Star Wars is the biggest movie franchise *ever*, not being aware of Empire Strikes Back is ignorance at this point.

Nah there are people who just don't know Star Wars and think its cool to not care about it because its so huge. Not even snobs do that, I've seen plenty of normies completely ignore Star Wars for some reason.
Plus billionaires like Tony or busy military guys don't have time for all the movies

>>84750330
>Empire Strikes Back and calling it "that really old movie" in Civil War bothered me more than anything else in that film.

If the dates are correct and Civil War took place in 2016, then ESB is 36 years old. If Peter is 15, then Star Wars was already 24 years old when Peter was born in 2001 so it's not too far out there for him to refer to it as a old film.

>>84746256
I believe it's one of the best MCU movies so far. In the Top 5, I'd say, at least imo.

>>84750456
>These hack writers just stole all their ideas from previous spidermen
yep
I liked the scene where spidey tried saving all those people by spinning a bunch of webs on each side and then holding them, just like in Spiderman 2!

>>84750330
Maybe what should bother you is your terrible memory, or whatever it is that's going on in your head if you remember yourself being frustrated over something that didn't actually happen.
>Spider-Man: Hey guys, you ever see that really old movie, Empire Strikes Back?
>War Machine: Jesus, Tony, how old is this guy?
>Iron Man: I don't know, I didn't carbon date him. He's on the young side.
>>84750382
>Don't forget Tony and Rhodes also thought that was a dated reference
Sounded more like Rhodes was shocked at how young Spidey was and Tony had to defend it.

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>Feige confirmed this kid is Peter

>Peter is 15 in HC
>Stark Expo was in 2010
>He'd be 8 by the time pic related happened
Makes sense I guess but do you buy it?

>>84746529
I think he does have it, but it's discreet. There's a moment during the ferry battle where Shocker cokes running full speed behind him and Spider-Man easily evades his punch, knocks him on his ass and jokes about how the guy before him could handle the gauntlet way better.

>>84750447
>Villain
Mysterio.

>Hero
Voice of some cgi character.

>>84750525
ESB was already 14 years old by the time I was born and I didn't see it until 04. It's hardly a new film and yeah, you could call it old, but his perspective of time isn't that different from mine and it's status has definitely made it more timless than it otherwise would've been.

>>84750519
Peter's not an ignorant normie though, he's the epitome of a nerdy teenager. And I did say "aware", I know people who haven't actually watched them but still know the plot points and the "I am your father" bits.

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>>84750585
>Maybe what should bother you is your terrible memory
kill me

I remember it bothering me because he dissed the film and acting like knowing about it was weird, I had just completely blanked out that he mentioned it by name.

>>84748117
>>84748140
>>84748295
>Hannibal standing there looking bored as fuck literally like he does in the Eric Andre Show


made me kek briefly

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Maybe I'm just easily entertained, but I thought "Spider-Man has nothing to swing on!" was one of the funniest running gags ever.

I loved Spider-Man as a kid and often dreamt of being him, but I also grew up out in the country; I was often thinking about how I would be able to get around if I actually was Spider-Man. Seeing the movie tackle this was quite possibly one of the most funny and satisfying feelings ever.

>>84750804
Next line:
>Spider-Man: You know that part, when they're on the snow planet, with the walking thingies?
I suppose you could interpret that as him not nerding out about it enough to say Hoth and AT-AT's/Imperial Walkers, but you could also interpret it as him being a bit distracted by the exact details given the situation, or that he might want to reference what he's talking about to the team in a way that doesn't rely on them nerding out about it and knowing the exact names, or you could interpret it as the screenwriters wanting to write in the reference for general audiences to get it without relying on them all to nerd out about it to get the reference and the subsequent payoff.
But I don't think Peter himself carries any disrespect for the movies. I mean, he did just reference it in the middle of a fight with a bunch of unrelated shit going on, instead of just saying "hey let's trip this guy". He probably got a nerd boner getting the chance to reference fucking star wars in the middle of the most serious and intense moment of his life up to that point.

>>84749665
Yeah, that was the ending. Him talking to Black Panther before attempting suicide.

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>>84750901
Speaking of his swinging and shit. I know how they made his web shooters artificial in this iteration of him, but what about his climbing? I think I remember Tony asking him if he had micro-fibers in his gloves or something in Civil War, but does he, or is that an ability he got from the spider?

>>84750861
I have to say they did get a great cast, besides the MJ character, I know they said she isnt THE MJ, yet. And the only reason I find bad is she doesn't act anything like MJ.

Who gives a shit about race when they can't even get her to act like she should, some basic ass bitch who gets knocked down a peg and humbled, because lets be serious she is second prize to Gwen.

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>>84750957
Yeah that makes sense, anon. I'm just freaking out a bit about remembering everything wrong.

I must've been fucked up when I watched Civil War cus I'm the guy who didn't remember the villain either.

>>84750980
Atleast I got something right.

>>84750984
If you look at his homemade costume you can actually see he's wearing fingerless gloves.

Tony's suit most likely solves the glove problem with some space tech.

>>84751047
Go watch it again. People give it shit on here for the airport scene but I thought it was full of tons of hilarious shit.
>Falcon and Bucky are running through a building and Spidey pops over on the window and starts climbing along the side of the building keeping up with them
>Bucky: What the hell is that?
>Falcon: Everyone's got a gimmick now.
Falcon had all the best lines

>>84751145
Makes sense. So his spider powers are super strength, agility, senses and climbing?

Thinking back on it, the wrist-spinnerets Maguire's Spidey had were really freaky.

>>84751226
Hasn't Peter always produced webbing and just pressurizes it in the shooter?

>>84751226
>Thinking back on it, the wrist-spinnerets Maguire's Spidey had were really freaky.
It makes more sense than having "web shooter machines" that create web out of thin air.

>>84751270
I dunno, anon. I haven't really read the comics at all, everything I know about Spider-man is based on cartoons from like 2000 and the live action films. I know he almost always had web-shooter though.

>>84750312
Won't he be at least a bit more experienced after helping the Avengers fight Thanos and the Black Order, though?

>>84750121
Pretty much.

>>84750901
I've always wondered that, and it was pretty funny of them to actually address it in a movie.