/tpg/ Cooper is never coming back edition Friendly reminde

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Imagine...

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DAD

wait, there is a new episode in 2 days

There is a nuclear power plant in Washington but it's over 150 miles from the Canadian border while Twin Peaks is said to be 5 miles from the border.

>>84721780
my life is moving in slow motion

>>84721780
Yes, Sunday.

>>84721786
what about a nuclear plant?

>>84721612
>Reminder the song confirms that Cooper is coming back

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>>84721786

>Twin Peaks wiki claims that Nixon, Jackie Gleason, and Milford went to a "glass box" like on the show, at Hanscom Air Force Base in MA, and saw The Experiment / "mother" inside it
>Secret History of Twin Peaks explicitly states that these 3 men went to Homestead Air Force Base in FL, and saw a gray alien inside a room

Why do people make fanfiction wiki entries?

>>84721813
2 weeks seemed like it was going to be ages but its already over.

well how'bout that - big ed

>>84721825
People think Dopplecoop might want to melt down a nuclear power plant to summon the Experiment since when he was downloading stuff before he went to the prison parts of it were blueprints for a nuclear power plant.

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>>84721838
The second impact

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Anyone else hate how they made some of the Lodge shit so literal? Like how the spirits travel through electricity so Cooper needed to go through a giant electrical socket to get back into the world? It's kind of stupid, in my opinion. The Lodge really lost some of its mystique this season.

>>84721843
The Experiment does kind of look like a grey alien though. And for them to see it in the room it would have to have a glass part. That entry is pretty misleading though and changing too much to fit the show.

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The garmonbozia, BOB

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>>84721906
Hahaha
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>>84721906
I'm sure a lot of it is the fact that they can do more things in editing for cheaper now so David can show what he really wanted to show all along.

>>84721906
Twin Peaks in general has elements that are incredibly stupid, if you think about it
cream corn representing pain & sorrow?
a dancing midget that talks backwards?
Sometimes I wonder why I even like it

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>>84721906
Hahaha
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>>84722003
I always hated garmonbozia, too. All of Lynch's "lore" additions in FWWM were fucking horrible.

>inb4 creamed corn was in the show first

>>84721906
You are right, but it doesn't really bother me

It's funny how in season 1 and 2, "Bob" could be taken as a representation of the "evil" in human nature, but in this season Bob is a physical entity, and we even know how he was born, it's kinda lame, but atleast we are getting some interesting visuals and ideas with that this season

>>84721838
With all seriousness now, we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

wow Bob wow
lynch lynch'd her daughter. leland hair going grey is a clue

>>84722056
>All of Lynch's "lore" additions in FWWM were fucking horrible.
I like the addition of the ring

>>84721907


Seems like he's pretty set on going full X-Files greys. I would love this if it changed into Bob but it doesn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHz664vmrjM

>>84722056
I've always found it odd that he decided to explain what garmombozia was right there in the subtitles for some reason. That shit was odd of all things to explain he decided to explain that bit in real time.

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>>84722003
Sounds like you are too LYNCHED and should return to watching capeshit

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>>84721786
WAfag here. There's a functional plant in Eastern WA and an unfinished plant on permanent hiatus called Satsop in western WA. So as far as Twin Peaks universe is concerned it could be finished? Pic related. Satsop.

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>>84722003
>>84722056
>>84722139

>>84722139
I always thought it was because there wasn't any other clear visual way to pair the association with the garmonbozia and pain/suffering. That and I think it's ironically Lynchian to explain something so explicitly, because I certainly wasn't expecting it.

>>84722088

>Dragonball Laura will fight the explosion

>Dougie will kiss Rhonda while Janey-E looks on scowling

>Sonny Jim turns out to be a lodge inhabitant

>Bob goes back to the lodge to torture Laura's trapped soul for eternity, that's the price she pays for saving the world.

>>84721971
>>84722005
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>>84722229
I always wonder the age of LYNCHEDposters. The LYNCHED reaction image existed long before The Return and /tpg/, but old Twin Peaks threads didn't have any of you faggots, which makes me think you all just watched Twin Peaks this year and these are just babby's first TP threads.

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>>84721906
agree, I wish it was left ambiguous

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>>84722210
Sounds like you were severely
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>>84722310
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>>84721906
I completely agree. Part of the fun with the black lodge was that it was completely impossible to know what the fuck was going on exactly.

non-exist-ent!

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>>84722310
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>>84722083
bob has always been explicitly a physical entity that is also a metaphor for the evil that men do. Although Bob is real in-universe, FWWM can easily be read as a story about a girl who's been viciously abused for years on end and cannot process that her own father would do such a thing.

rhonda worst girl

>>84721906
I really predict that this season is going to become the polar opposite of FWWM. As in it's well-liked and well-received at the time, but as time goes by and the hype cloud dissipates, its flaws will become more and more apparent. It's great for a lot of reasons, but I feel like people will look at a lot of the decisions with a more critical eye in the coming years.

I still love the series, but the enchantment is slightly wearing off and there's a lot of things I don't like about it.

>>84722672
>A personal opinion
Y-yeah? w-w-well haha, uh, you've uh, y-you've been L-LYNCHED... hehe

>>84721838

Nuclear reactors don't explode.

>>84722443
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what the fuck is this

>>84722767

Future fat Sonny Jim getting Lynched

>>84721906

I don't mind that so much but I find Bad Cooper's magical spy tech annoying.

>>84720564
>the other folks at Buella's house & why Ray and Daria were there
>George and Phyllis' affair & framing Bill & Don Harrison
>James' friend's with one green glove
>Shelly's daughter drama
>The congressman's dilemma
>Harry's illness (hopefully)
>119 junkie mom & child
>The secretary at Lucky 7 Insurance

>>84721612
Do you really think Lynch would pull something that predictable and let the song and images be released this soon if that were the case?

The obvious and important thing to remind you all is that Audrey is best girl and also

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>>84722837

If 'tard Leo and Dougie/Coop end up in the same room I will be very happy.

>>84722913
Audrey looks like everyone's grandma now
Shelly best girl

>>84722767

Ike the Spic

>>84722767
It's Vin Diesel getting his revenge on Cooper on the toilet after his hand got pulled off.

>>84722837
>>George and Phyllis' affair & framing Bill & Don Harrison

No way. Hastings' secretary is one of the two people we still need to tie everything together.

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>>84722837
This is why a lot of people think the series is a mess. So many fucking plot points introduced and there's no way they're all relevant and no way they're all going to get resolved. Even worse is that some have been introduced in only one scene probably to never be fucking seen again, like pic related. The first season of Twin Peaks was a masterclass in television writing. Such tight focus, perfect pacing, every character mattered.

Sure, the new season is far more ambitious and it's great just based on that alone, but it could have been cleaned up a bit.

>>84723028
>So many fucking plot points introduced and there's no way they're all relevant and no way they're all going to get resolved.

I don't even think that's really the problem. The problem is having all this bullshit fill time within the last 18 hours we're ever getting in this universe with the characters everyone has been waiting to see again for 25 years. Yes I know, I'm Lynched.

>>84723080

>implying we won't get a season 4

The ultimate lynching.

>>84721906
I think it'd be stupider if they just appeared out of thin air like it seemed they did before these revelations.

>>84723080
I have faith that Lynch and Frost can tie all of this up. As far as Cooper, I think he has a bad fate. Look at The Final Dossier book that's scheduled. There is no way Cooper comes out of this series in a good way.

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is she in any other good movies?

>>84723282
she isnt in any good movies

Who gave this hothead his own thread?

>>84723282
Vampires

>>84722139
Especially when the convenience store and Jeffries scenes were intentionally mangled in the film to be incomprehensible compared to their full cuts released later. That whole sequence is one of the worst edited things I've ever seen, it's ugly and inane whereas the full scenes are as good as anything else in the film

>>84722310
>i can't into meme evolution

>>84723347
Anon she said GOOD movies.

>>84723361
^THIS

>>84723026
I totally forgot about that, you're right
Also >Shelly's daughter drama
We've already seen her (Amanda Seyfried) and her boyfriend will definitely be connected to Red and Richard Horne drug trafficking subplot, especially considering the looks Shelly and Red were giving each other. I don't know if I'd be too surprised if it turned out that Red was Becky's father.

>>84722245
>I always thought it was because there wasn't any other clear visual way to pair the association with the garmonbozia and pain/suffering.
This is fair
>That and I think it's ironically Lynchian to explain something so explicitly
This is a gayest thing I've ever read

>>84721971
why did he do this

>>84723343
Eddie Vedder and David Lynch's collaborative song that ends the series.

>>84722443
is that filename real

>>84723361
It being a meme is fine, but it's become a detriment to actual discussion. And yes, I know I shouldn't expect quality discussion from /tv/, but post-Return threads are fucking garbage compared to TP threads of yesteryear. I'm honestly glad there's even new material to talk about, and I come to these threads to laugh and fuck around more than anything, but the second anyone tries to actually discuss, or god forbid criticize, it's just met with a slew of responses by people straight from /v/.

>>84723537
HAHAHAHA word

>>84721880
holy kek it's true

>>84723537
well i agree that it gets excessive but its pretty easy to ignore when you realize it is literally said to any criticism and therefore a joke and not serious

>>84723537
sounds like you got lynched

>>84723343
He got Lynched in the previous thread and made this one as revenge.

>>84722846
The song's lyrics are clearly about a person able to mournfully reflect on their life, failures, and losses.

>>84723282
Winter's Bone

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>>84721926
You're way out of focus

>>84723537
It's fucked that Doctor Who threads generate better discussion than a fucking Twin Peaks thread. We're supposed to be better than them.

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>>84722310
Here's their true nature

>>84723508
Yes.

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The scenes, David.

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>>84723537
Hahaha
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>>84724060
>Dr Who?
Kek

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>>84722310
They're the second worst posters in these threads. The worst are the ones that try so hard to be LE PATRICIAN that they now completely shit on the original series that they were apparently just pretending to like up until May 21st. But judging by the level of fagginess, they're probably pic related.

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>>84724148
Judy?

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>>84722443
what is the source of this? is filename real?

>>84723846
Read the lyrics and listen to it. I believe the meme.

>>84724224
Yes.

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>>84724266
source on that?

https://youtu.be/Py__2g5lFRY

I think there might be some merit to The Flintstones connection, guys.

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STOP SUPPORTING PATRIARCHAL ART

>>84724195
For every great surreal scene in the original show there was another one that was really shlocky or stupidly melodramatic so before the new season started I considered TP a guilty pleasure.
S3 is on a new level and it's art that shouldn't be judged by Reddit criteria like "plot progression" and "character development".

>Annie has only been mentioned once and is not in the show, despite the original show ending with "How's Annie?"
>There is no mention of Annie at all in The Secret History of Twin Peaks, even to the point where it states repeatedly that Lana won the Miss Twin Peaks Pageant.
>According to Secret History, Norma's parents are said to have died before the show began (1984).

Are Annie Blackburn And Vivian "M.T. Wentz" Niles non-canon?

>>84724428
Really not untrue that Lynch has a fascination with abused women, for better or worse

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Why is opinion on her acting in the movie so divisive? It seems like people love it or hate it, even on /tpg/.

>>84724431
>it's art that shouldn't be judged by Reddit criteria like "plot progression" and "character development"

Fucking kill yourself for writing that assuming it isn't b8

>>84724428
>Uncle Barkly

>>84724224
https://youtu.be/M4BmPBIqf00

>>84723222
2 things will buttblast me if done. A Coop bad end or a cliffhanger. Not saying I want a right as rain Coop drinking coffee and eating pie in the sunrise or anything but he at least deserves a neutral good but melancholy end. The entire point of the show concerning Twin peaks is about how things may be familiar, but time has changed things. Nothing is the same, you can't go back.

If it goes cliffhanger I could see Lynch getting Lynched.

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How the fuck is it confirmed that Retardcooper never becomes normal again?

>>84724442
/tpg/ in general overrates it, and FWWM in general, for that matter. People posted and said it's overrated, then people replied with an extreme counterpoint which caused a rebuttal of an equally extreme opposing viewpoint.

So like everything on /tv/, it's either the greatest thing ever or complete shit.

>>84724434
annie confirmed ret-conned into being a fantasy character envisioned by dale cooper and perpetuated by the white lodge to get him to go to the red room

>>84724434
Annie has been mentioned in The Return, Part 7 I think.

>>84724558
I genuinely found it cringey and grating desu Like, I guess it adds to the tragedy/weirdness that the people of Twin Peaks described Laura simply as "troubled" and "not right" when she was actually a screaming lunatic, but it felt more like a case of bad direction/overacting.

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Will this be kino?

https://youtu.be/2KLLkj84GAo

>>84724195
Saying the original show had its problems and liking Lynch going further with the surrealism like his movies doesn't mean you hate the original show. But the original show was the product of executive meddling. There's nothing wrong with liking it more but Lynch has a large fanbase outside of Twin Peaks that I'm sure are glad that the new season is how it is even if they still did like the first two seasons.

>>84724512
There are only two possible ends for Coop:

>He gets his memories back, defeats the doppelganger, then goes back to living Dougie's life knowing that his old one is gone and all of his friends are either dead or hate him because of the mistaken identity. He may even willingly give up his memories again to deal with this.

OR

>He dies and ascends to the White Lodge.

I honestly think it might be the first one because of all the time we've spent with Dougie's family/coworkers. Clearly we're supposed to be getting emotionally attached to them for some big payoff.

I guess if I had to ask for a normiecore capeshit ending, the ideal for me would be Coop getting his memories back, saving the day and taking Janey E and Sonny Jim to live with him in Twin Peaks. At least then we'd have all our bases covered and you could truly call it a happy ending.

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david lunch lol

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>>84724807
Nope.

>>84724816
kek

>>84724555
it's not confirmed anywhere. even the lyrics of that stupid vedder song don't imply anything of the sort

>>84724428
Lynch does abuse women in his movies but no more than men are abused in other movies, even those not by Lynch. And even though this is true Lynch also does like female protags and characters and the abuse just highlights the multiple dimensions of the characters. Not sure this applies to the new season of Twin Peaks so far but if the only thing this person got out of Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet, and Inland Empire is "Lynch likes to make women suffer" then they really shouldn't be criticizing movies.

>>84724882
Can't you read? He's a top critic, I don't see Rotten Tomatoes hosting your reviews anywhere

>>84724813
>>He gets his memories back, defeats the doppelganger, then goes back to living Dougie's life knowing that his old one is gone and all of his friends are either dead or hate him because of the mistaken identity. He may even willingly give up his memories again to deal with this.

I know all the memeing about the Vedder song is just that, memeing, because there's no way you can be a functioning human being and think the lyrics are referring to anything but this.

Cooper spent a quarter of his life in a hellish dimension populated by reality warping spirits. He went in as a young man one day and left as an older one, probably with no sense of linear time so for him it probably only felt like a few hours or days, or even seconds. His friends are gone and the ones who are left think he's a piece of shit monster because an actual monster with his face used his identity to commit unspeakable acts of evil. He literally has nothing left to live for except the family of some shitty retarded clone of his who somehow loves him unconditionally. Why would he ever want to go back to his old life when he has this?

>>84724434
Cooper wrote the part of Secret History containing the references to Norma's mother. Make of that what you will.

Also Nixon says at one point in the book "I am not a kook" in regard to his belief in UFO-type phenomena. I am not a kook.

>>84724434
I get the feeling that Lynch and his fucktoy Frost by extension will only acknowledge Annie as little as they possibly need to because she was never their original idea and is the epitome of the network meddling that killed the original series.

She was only in FWWM because she was so central to the finale. That's literally it.

>>84724943
The build up for Janey E this season is pretty unreal, she's a companion protagonist to Cooper at this point. He won't be old Dale, but he'll get something out of his suffering.

>THIS IS THE WATER
>THIS IS THE WELL
What does it all mean anon?

>>84724920
>can't look past the things that trigger you on the surface of the movie to see what they actually mean and do for the movie
Yeah, they shouldn't be criticizing movies.

>>84724813
>all of his friends are either dead or hate him because of the mistaken identity

But everyone pretty much knows that DoppelCoop isn't him now. Cole, Albert and Diane know for a fact because of the fingerprint, and Hawk and Truman now know that "the one who came out of the Lodge with Annie that night... was not the good Cooper". Cooper didn't seem to have that many personal relationships outside of the FBI before Twin Peaks, and the truth is known by pretty much everyone he cared for except for maybe Audrey.

>>84724943
Your post just described the Eddie Vedder song that plays at the end of the series.

From all the leaked behind the scenes pics with Belushi, I think this is what we can logically conclude will happen in the next few episodes:

>the mafia will see Coop on the news and recognize him as the guy from the casino
>Belushi and co will be sent to deal with him accordingly
>they'll kidnap him and take him to the desert to kill or beat the shit out of
>his full memories will come back and he'll get help from the Lodge to kill or wound them enough to escape

I think logically this will happen in the 11th episode. SDCC is showing a special advance screening of it to go along with their Twin Peaks panel, so it obviously has to be a very special one.

where the hell is this show going

it seems like fuck all is happening at TP and its just getting further and further away from the original material. Hawk and andy are going through evidence at a glacial pace and now we have cockroach frogs from a 1950's atomic test site

>>84725088
Cole and Albert can only do so much for him if he's an internationally wanted criminal, though, even with Cole's Blue Rose authority unless he has more power in the FBI than he seems to. As for Diane, even though she knows the truth now, I'm not so certain she and Cooper could ever go back to having a relationship like the one they had before especially if there's some element of abuse that went on with Doppelcoop.

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wtf happened she was such a qt...

>>84723282

Bliss

Softcore erotica about tantric sex where she works out her hang ups were from being molested as a child.

>skinemax peaks

>>84725047
I only wish she wasn't such a shrew. I know what they're trying to do with her and under any other circumstance I'd be okay with it, but she's so incredibly grating and uninteresting.

>>84724830
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>>84725253
I think that's just Naomi's performance, hopefully intentionally to do a 180 like in Mulholland Drive and show you a less stilted "real" Janey soon

>>84725048
>Here's the church
>Here's the steeple

>>84721612
what a shit show

>>84724882
I always felt that the point of having him put emphasis on women in trouble in his movies was to bring attention to the fact that abuse like this can and often does happen in the real world and it's ugly and horrific. I never understood where the idea of him as some rampant sexist came from.

>>84725217
Well yeah, that's different. If he has to pay for his doppelganger's crimes, then his life will be fucked up beyond repair. You can only imagine the type of shit that DoppelCoop got into. But then again, their fingerprints do not match, and it's on record unless the warden did away with the files.

The point was that most of the people he cares about know the truth now, though. Potential legal trouble is an entirely different issue altogether.

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>>84725345
Hahaha
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>>84725253

She's easily one of my favourite things about the show.

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>>84725345

>>84725348
Because all the people complaining see is women going through abuse and extreme circumstances and like I said don't take the time to put it into the context of the movie and just get triggered by it.

>>84725253
>sees photos of her husband having an affair
>gets mad but quickly cools off
>still loves and protects Dougie
>jumped in on Ike the Spike despite Cooper pushing her out of harm's way
Jane Eyre loves and cares for Dougie, even if she's a bit rough around the edges.

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>>84725353
Lynch did it and got away with it, why wouldn't Coop?

H E L L
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>>84725390
I know, logically she should be a great character, there's just something about her performance that really gets under my skin. I think it would be a lot more bearable if she had normal Coop to play off, but I'm going to believe >>84725329 and assume that she's going to have more vulnerable, human moments soon.

>>84725222
best girl right there. nice trips, btw

>>84725390
I thought it had less to do with her loving him and more to do with all those clams he won.

>>84724852
Why does OP say it then? Just to troll?

>>84725442
I'm surprised no one mentions this but Naomi Watts is really overacting in this show

Gonna rewatch FWWM now. Should I just watch the film or get a missing pieces edit? I've already seen all the deleted scenes btw.

>>84725353
This is why him adopting Dougie's identity fulltime is the only ending that makes sense with the direction the show's going on.

As much as David likes LYNCHING us, I think even he knows how much of an unsatisfying ending it would be to see a beloved, heroic protagonist, who was rewarded for his love and kindness with 25 years of hell, get put away for life and possibly even executed for crimes he didn't commit.

>>84721880
>still no Twin Peaks Evangelion Opening
I'm pretty sure there's even a template video for that sort of shit

>>84725553
If you've never seen the edit, might as well watch it for a different experience.

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>>84725187
There's no other way to respond to posts like these besides you're obviously not intelligent enough to follow it

>>84725474
Dougie was always a piece of shit based on what little we saw of him and have since learned about him, but Jane Eyre stood by him anyway.

And I may be misremembering, but her reaction to Cooper winning the jackpot seemed to be focused on familial benefit rather than selfish greed.

>>84725543
This is one of the few instances in all of Twin Peaks where the overacting feels right somehow. I guess because it's being done for comedy instead of drama.

FUCK GENE KELLY

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>>84725577
As cliched and saccharine as Cooper moving to Twin Peaks with Janey-E and Sonny Jim would be, I would love it. Cooper deserves the best, most hopeful sendoff possible, especially if this is the last time we ever see this character.

>tfw the final scene is cooper climbing the tall hill, sitting in the cool grass and feeling the sun on his face

>>84725577

Are we in Soap Opera territory? You just put a wig on, change names and all of a sudden the FBI can't find you?

>>84725474
Or maybe she genuinely does love Dougie. He IS a doppelganger of Cooper. It's entirely possible that he might have had some of the real one's personality or traits.

>>84721734
It's good, but when it cuts back to them, they need to both be Lynch heads too.

>>84725634
>I guess because it's being done for comedy instead of drama

Yeah, Janey-E is basically a sitcom wife and it's great.

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A cute maid appears!

Did anyone else first mute and then eventually fast forward through all the """""art"""""" in the last episode?

Sorry but this show is a fucking mess.

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>>84725651
that line wasn't funny desu
felt so forced

>>84725674
Dougie is a doppelganger of Cooper? I don't think so

>>84725706
No, I sat there sucking it in while thinking "holy shit" but also thinking "wow, it finally got to this stuff" since this was what I was expecting from the new season anyway.

>>84725667
>Gordon and Albert find out where Coop is
>they realize what really happened and know that trying to argue AN EVIL CLONE DID IT isn't going to hold up in any fucking court in the world
>the only thing they can do to help him is make sure that he gets to live the life he deserves by helping him cover up his tracks/fake his identity/whatever

Wow, such a stretch in a show that already was a soap opera.

>>84725746
Not in the Lodge definition of the word, but what else do you want me to call him? Give me another word and I'll use it.

>>84725746
He's a doppleganger of Cooper's doppleganger

>>84725755
I get your point but:

1. They may not be able to do that if DoppelCoop is one of those TOP 10 FBI most wanted

2.they might not buy the evil clone story, especially Tammy who's new to all this

>>84725751
Huh I guess I was expecting an actual television series, not amateur hour """"""art"""""""".

>>84725667
Considering the fact that despite Cooper being a wanted person, nobody looked at Dougie in those 25 years and thought "hey, he looks like that Cooper guy", I think he will be fine hiding as Dougie for a while.

>>84725782
hmmm.. I guess he's the replica created by DoppelCoop?

>>84721906
F R O S T E D
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>>84725587
wtc? I'm drunk and need to be spoonfed. Public trackers are fine or mega or whatever.

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>>84725815
You've obviously not watched Inland Empire.

>>84725804
>2.they might not buy the evil clone story, especially Tammy who's new to all this

Why wouldn't they? Gordon's department specializes in supernatural cases and he and Albert immediately believed Diane when she told them it wasn't the real Cooper, and even then they both recognized that it was a Blue Rose case.

>>84725824
>Considering the fact that despite Cooper being a wanted person, nobody looked at Dougie in those 25 years and thought "hey, he looks like that Cooper guy"

congratulations, you just found youself a plothole

>>84725828
As much as I'd like to blame Frost, that entire sequence looked like a stupid Lynch painting, so that was probably his contribution. He was also the one who introduced the "electricity" motif in FWWM.

>>84725543
she's clearly being directed to overact in these scenes

dougie > coop

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>>84725667
>FBI
>competent

>>84725804
Yes, those are both possibilities, but they aren't really serious hurdles.

This is a story where Doop transfered a tracking device to another vehicle by tapping a big button on his smartphone. Gordon and Denise pulling some strings would be sufficient explanation for Cooper's name being cleared.

>>84725815
>whining that a surreal artist makes surreal art
kill yourself

>>84725849
Is the whole movie shot that way?
Jesus Christ Lynch

>>84724816
good meem

>>84725804
>2.they might not buy the evil clone story, especially Tammy who's new to all this

Read the book

david lynch read homestuck and that's why the new season is bad

>>84725948
not him but I read the book and Tammy is skeptic as fuck, she's always bitching about sources and ''GIVE ME FACTS''

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>>84725864
I mean he lived in Las Vegas where it doesn't seem that anyone who would have recognized him would have been. And even if they did look for him they wouldn't have the slightest clue where to start. We also don't know when exactly Dougie was created. If we assume he met Janey-E and had Sonny Jim (how old even is he? I'm not good with ages) that would mean he was created around 10 or so years ago at the latest, which would be 15 years after Cooper disappeared and I don't think the FBI would have been looking for him for 15 years. There's a lot of reasons why nobody would have recognized or found him.

>>84725929
What do you mean "this way"? It was shot on a shitty digital camera in like 2005 or maybe a bit before that and has that look. The conversation in that webm is pretty stilted though and it's not like that the entire movie. You should watch it. I think it's great.

>>84725836
I Googled it and found it here of all places kek

https://www.reddit.com/r/megalinks/comments/5xl2a1/twin_peaks_fire_walk_with_me_q2_fan_edit_1992/

>>84725980
Dude, you're acting like this is the 1900's. Dougie Jones was probably a normal person whichs means he had a social security number, ID, driver's license. It would be so easy for the FBI to get him

>>84725926
>surrealist artist

Cringe

>>84725543
Just like that other Lynch film she was in, until suddenly she wasn't

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>>84721612
Hey /tpg/, it's Laura! I bet you never thought you would see me again. Sometimes love is lost and found, /tpg/

>>84725980
I was referring to the fish-eye close-up thing that they have going in that conversation. I've seen a few clips beforehand and they looked similar so I wasn't sure.
I'll definitely have to check it out though, I'm saving it for last but I've heard a lot of really great and really shitty things about it so I'm excited. The fact that the shot it on a shitty standard def camera is really funny to me too but I guess it genuinely looks like almost no other movie out there.

>>84726018
If they were looking for him. Which I don't think they were. Dougie most likely wasn't created directly after Dopplecoop left Twin Peaks and even if he was the FBI has to purposely search for certain things to be able to find anything. Why would they look in Las Vegas of all places as opposed to anywhere else? Especially if Dougie was created several years after Cooper disappeared. I think you overestimate the FBI's searching power.

>>84726020
the only cringe here is how retarded you are. I feel bad for your parents.

>>84726112
>underage Lynch fanboy

Cringe

>>84725543
What? Her acting is perfect.

>>84725864
I was more talking about the "making the lodge - and everything - so literal" aspect. Yes, the electricity socket was weird. It made me think of a show I used to watch as a kid (it was a pretty creepy show looking back at it).

>>84726073
I'm assuming DoppelCoop was like a Top 10 FBI most wanted criminal and int that case it doesn't make sense but if he's just a small fish criminal then I guess you're right

Honestly, if you didn't watch the original series when it first aired, you are too young to understand the new series.

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>>84726066
The closeups are a thing that persists the entire movie. I don't know what Lynch was going for with them but it adds to the weird as fuck atmosphere the movie has.

>>84726112
Lynch is a real artist, but that doesn't make everything he works on automatically good. It's ok to recognize when things don't work as they should. Stop blindly rimming people while saying "thank you". Learn to appreciate art and develop critical judgment.

>>84721762
this picture made me gay

So is this show just about evil electric hobos now?

>>84722672
desu I'd be happier if this season was never made, and Lynch continued with other stuff. FWWM is a great prequel / sequel to the original series, it never needed any more.

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How do I ask my barber for this?

fire walk with me + missing pieces really grows on me over time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQtm1eznrtU

>>84726270
>Stop blindly rimming people while saying "thank you".
not that anon but that's basically been my entire dating experience

>>84726303
that's what the show has always been about

>>84726333
how's the pink eye?

>>84726270
It's an Emperor's New Clothes scenario with what I assume are the younger people in these threads. They're so afraid of "not getting it", or just people thinking that they don't, when it comes to someone who's considered an artist that they'll fellate him for anything he does. It's the telltale sign of someone who's trying to appear that they're into something as opposed of someone who's actually into something.

>>84726327
Save the picture on your phone and show it to him. Or go to /fa/ and ask what kind of cut it is.

>>84726284
>asymmetrical face
>soulless gaze
>looks like a sociopath
Were you like 99% gay before you saw that picture?

>>84726327

Just give your barber the glad hand.

>>84726378
i got really bad strep throat + fever from eating ass all the time last summer. let that be a lesson to you

>>84726327
>i w-want this haircut, p-please
>show them that picture
>"who's the towhead?"
>try to run out but slip on unswept hair
>spill your creamed corn
>run out crying

>>84723028
> So many fucking plot points introduced and there's no way they're all relevant and no way they're all going to get resolved

You could say that about the original. The mill plot, the James plot, the bullshit Josie is involved with, literally have nothing to do with the main investigation. The only difference is that in Season 3, we have plots being introduced without any resolution (but they're still irrelevant).

I think they're taking the piss with these plots that go nowhere, to be honest.

>>84726270
>but that doesn't make everything he works on automatically good.
I never said that you fucking idiot. Congrats are putting words in my mouth. However, whining about something being surreal is fucking retarded when the person who's making it is an established surreal artist

>>84721612
>Agent Cooper never returned home

h-h-hold me, /tv/

>>84726380
Or they actually like it because their idea of what they want is different from yours. It's ridiculous to think that people are just pretending to like something.

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>>84726133
>retarded fucking autist
cringe
go cry that the skies blue faggot

>>84724060
Unlike Dr Who threads, however, these threads are post-ironic.

>>84726327
"Just fuck my shit up, pham"

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>>84726485
Literally Donald Trump, including the incest and sexual assault.

>>84726494
>getting this upset someone doesn't like some hack director and his bad tv show

Cringe

>>84726480
>It's ridiculous to think that people are just pretending to like something.

Have you never been to an art building at college? You will meet the most faux-pretentious tryhards you could ever imagine.

>>84726436
>towhead
Isn't it "toe-head"?

Who has watched On the Air? Is it as bad as I've read or did the (((reviewers))) get lynched?

>>84726480
>It's ridiculous to think that people are just pretending to like something.

It really isn't. It happens all the time.

>>84726523
>getting this upset that you get called out for whining about something that is the equivalent of whining about the sky being blue
cringe

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>>84726433
Mike Adriano, is that you?

>>84726524
Not even just art students. I once talked to a bunch of medical students and one of them smugly laughed when he was asked what films he likes and said he only watches documentaries.

>>84726561
Except I'm not upset or the one calling other people "fucking retards" for not enjoying a bad tv show.

>he's still replying

>>84726543
I've only seen the first episode and it was okay. A bit too slapstick for me. Lynch only directed the first episode.

>>84726524
>>84726555
I just notice a pattern that if someone doesn't like something they claim anyone that says they do like it is lying. It does happen like you said but at least for me, I like the new season and it's disheartening to see people brushing other people who also seem to like it as people new to Lynch who just want to seem cool. I've seen the same thing with Inland Empire too.

>>84726537
No.

>>84726589
I called you a retarded for whining about surrealist making surreal art
not because you didn't enjoy the show

>>he's still replying
so are you, retard

>>84726568
not yet
maybe some day.

also what was the jumping man from fwwm supposed to be? is it coming back this season, i mean, the woodsmen did

>>84726625
>being 15 years old

>>84726521
t. CNN

>>84726687
I legit teach classes for special needs kids, and you're more retarded than any of them. Have fun being dumb as dirt.

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>>84726480
>It's ridiculous to think that people are just pretending to like something.

>>84726598
toe-head is a better insult tbf

>>84725222
That was back in the 50s. She's aged a lot since then.

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>>84726751
>A bevy of unfinished ideas and long sequences of hackneyed imagery were left on the television screen and everyone mistook it for art

need good agent desmond screenshots

>>84726751
Perhaps my post was too generalized but it isn't productive to think this all the time. Lynch has his style and it is pretty obvious in the new season. If you liked his last few movies it seems weird that you wouldn't like the new season.

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>>84726860

The difference is, nobody got paid for dropping their glasses in that museum.

>>84726926
>someone says that something Lynch did is bad
>instead of addressing this claim, Lynchfags rush forward to say "TH-THAT'S HIS STYLE"
every single time

>>84726860
kek

>>84726751
>>84726860
Fucking jej

>>84726995
Explain what is bad about it. Like I said, if you liked his last few movies I can't imagine what you're not liking.

>>84727048
That was my first post in the conversation, and I liked episode 8. I just think it's hilarious how Lynchfags refuse to engage with criticism by attacking strawmen every time.

>>84727152
If that was your first post then you probably missed my posts being responses to people who think everyone enjoying the new season is just pretending. Like you, anon. You can't legitimately like this garbage right? You're just pretending to like it for the street cred it gets you.

>and I liked episode 8
No you didn't. Stop pretending.

>>84727048
Not who you're replying to and I'm just playing devil's advocate, but everyone who says they want a more coherent, focused story with fewer (therefore more important) characters and a semblance of stylistic consistency with the first 2 seasons is called a redditor, so I think those people have stopped pleading their case altogether.

I myself love Lynch's work, but I can see where people are coming from. If he had evolved from Twin Peaks, he should have just done something new and completely different, instead of forcing "completely different" onto something old.

>>84727237
Pretty sure someone said this above but the first two seasons weren't all that different in regards to the characters. The main story was Laura's murder and there were a lot of characters not related to that in any way that could have been cut if all you want out of a TV show is a single plot line. There's even a fan edit that does just that. I haven't watched it but I'm sure it isn't as good because these are TV shows and not movies and so can get away with having more characters and plot threads.

I myself would also like something new from Lynch but he felt like revisiting Twin Peaks. Your complaints about the new season being too different also makes me think of all the times a show is revived and follows the old series too closely only to be called nostalgia bait. Regardless of what happens someone is going to complain.

>>84727200
Don't get me wrong, that anon is a retard too, but if someone claims something is shit, then "it's INTENTIONAL" is not an argument against that. It's a random, irrelevant claim that everyone is already well aware of and has no bearing on whether or not the content is indeed shit.

Lynch is a hack, the new series is shit, and if you like it, you have objectively shit taste & should kill yourself ASAP

>>84727237
>inb4 someone says dumb shit about how people only like watching the same thing and can't handle things changing and evolving

NuPeaks is like if they made a new season of Mad Men and it became science fiction where they opened a new agency on the moon. Change and different styles are good when they make sense, not when they clash with the status quo so blatantly.

>>84727343
Saying something is shit because it does basically the same thing the creator has been doing for over a decade is also not an argument unless these same people are going to say that Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, and Inland Empire are also all shit. I've seen people say it about Inland Empire but not the other too.

>>84727333
The difference is that the original series didn't have the absolutely glacial scene pacing, so they were able to actually keep those plot threads spinning.

TP2 is full of dead air, so we have plot threads getting shelved left and right. Characters show up, then we don't see them for six episodes.

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>people like this show
lmao it's fucking awful
LOL RANDOM WEIRDNESS
WOOOO SPOOKY OOKEY FIREMEN
seriously, this show is garbage and so are you if you like it

>>84726479
Quantum Leap style ending.

Try-hard show for 19-year-old virgin Plebbitors.

>>84727451
I feel like it would work much better as Lynch's intended "18-hour film". The weekly episodic format fucking kills it. If /tpg/ didn't exist, it would be fucking brutal to watch live.

>>84727451
This is the fault of the way it's being aired clashing with how it was actually made. I'm going to wait to see how the entire thing ends up but as of right now I personally don't have a problem with the pacing as long as it's airing weekly but these two week breaks are unbearable. Kyle said it'll all make sense so I imagine the majority of the plot threads will be resolved.

>>84727523
>>84727542
Whether this turns out to be true or not, the claim that "the first two seasons weren't all that different in regards to the characters" is wrong.

>>84727567
It's not. There were lots of plot threads that had jack shit to do with the main story and could have been cut out if you wanted a more focused story. The pacing of the new season has nothing to do with what I'm saying. The great thing about TV though is it's more long form and so you can have several different plot threads at once as opposed to a 2 hour movie where there isn't as much time to do so.

>>84727567
Yeah, people say "look at all of this unrelated shit" in regards to the central mystery, but they were intentionally unrelated in most cases. They were red herrings in a murder mystery. If there aren't multiple lines of thought for the viewer, it becomes uninteresting and predictable.

"Look at this criminal Hank, could he have something to do with this? Now Josie isn't as innocent as she seems. What could she know about Laura?"

Even though it all ended up being nothing, they were there to divert your attention and make you think.

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>>84726327
"Low number two below the crown, next to nothing off the top, don't worry about the blend, I'll be back in three weeks anyway..."

It's so fucking stupid. The pacing is so slow for a television series, but it's technically not a television series, it's an 18 hour movie split into parts, but who the fuck has time to watch a 18 hour movie?
Also, I don't even the pacing would work with as a whole 18 hour movie. Tarkovsky was a lot better at slower pacing. His scenes felt like they were breathing. Lynch's feel like they're limping.

>>84727687
Yeah. The problem now is that there is no central mystery, or even a clear central plotline. We were told that the show is about Agent Cooper's odyssey back to Twin Peaks, but halfway through the show the main character is still essentially braindead. Wow, we've been LYNCHED. You really got us.

>>84726543

I've seen the pilot. It was... goofy but it had some laughs.

>>84727628
Let me condense my post so you don't get triggered by the word "pacing" this time
>The difference is that the original series kept those plot threads spinning, whereas TP2 has characters show up and then we don't see them for six episodes.
All the subplots in TP were also connected to potential culprits in the original murder mystery. In hindsight they're "irrelevant", but as you're watching they are all windows into the lives of might-be murderers.

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>>84725345
>>84725706
>>84725951
>>84727363
>>84727458
>>84727499
>>84727752

>>84727762
>even a clear central plotline
central plot line is good coop stopping bad coop.

>>84727687
Exactly.

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>>84727752

>>84727849
Amazing how people don't even realize that when the comparison is made. Is it any wonder that any non-main story plot became immediately unbearable to watch post-killer reveal? Were they really that much worse? No, it's because there was no intrigue with no central story to connect them to.

That's the same problem with season 3.

I dont get what people see with season 3, its just not twin peaks.
Show was about something different. I dropped s3 after 4 episodes.

>>84727817
Perhaps that's my problem since I don't remember watching the show like that even before I knew who killed her. But I'm not saying I disliked them. I think it's a benefit of TV to be able to do this. And I don't dislike the new season for it either, and have no problem sitting down to watch an episode like some people seem to. They are I imagine all connected and will come together and not seeing a plot thread for a few episodes doesn't diminish my enjoyment of it at all and I also enjoy the stuff that could just be Lynch doing something surreal for the sake of it.

>>84727987
I dropped the series right after the Wally scene
meme it all you want fags, but it was objectively a horrible scene and one of the worst directed scenes in anything Lynch related

>>84728043
The Wally scene was one of the most Twin Peaks-iest things on the show, though.

>>84728043
I really loved it.
Late at night, police station with those comfy lights. Woods surrounding the place.
Someone new appearing, dreamy ambient.

I dont follow the conversation, somehow it gets so confortable again, proud Andy and Lucy.

Scene tasted like a good scotch

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>>84728043
tfw he already looks so old

>>84728043
That was one of the only remotely entertaining scenes so far though.

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big ed looks so scary in this one
do you think we'll see more of james/nadine/others? or just random scenes like
>I think Ive lost my car
>Gold shovels
>James is cool

>>84728043
nah

>>84728270
nadine's patch looks shopped

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reminder that this deleted scene is absolute kino and we are #blessed that it got released

>>84728307
Cringe

Fuck you guys saying LYNCHED as some sort of response. I know it's funny but Jesus at least make a thoughtful reply even if this a pure shitposting general

>>84728307
i love her

>>84728334
HAHAHA

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>>84728334
LYNCHED

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Imagine being /tpg/ watching this show and having to be all like "damn, Twin Peaks: The Return, you fuckin' kino, all artsy with your loose plot points and horrifically vague visual drama. I would totally watch you, both as Anonymous and the real me." when all he really wants is it to be more like season 1 and 2. Like seriously imagine having to be /tpg/ and not only sit in that chair while Twin Peaks: The Return flaunts it's poor quality in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing it's poor editing and painful pace, and just sit there, scene after scene, episode after episode, while it unravels that story. Not only having to tolerate it's poor quality visual effects but its terrible acting as everyone on the internet says it's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, TWIN PEAKS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch its disappointing fucking story contort into types of abstractions you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been watching nothing but a healthy diet of Twin Peaks and X-Files and later alleged Game of Thrones for the past YEAR AND A HALF coming straight out of the boonies in /tv/. You've never even seen anything this fucking boring before, and now you swear you can see the CGI that's breaking out in the Black Lodge as it makes it more bizarre to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to pay to sit there and revel in its "surreal (for that is what it calls itself)" art, the art they worked so hard for with Showtime in the previous years. And then then Retard Coop gets another bumbling scene, and you know you could troll every single person in this thread before the other anons could call you a pleb, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Anonymous. You're not going to lose your self-perceived patricianhood over this. Just bear it. Post LYNCHED and bear it.

>>84728622
>when all he really wants is it to be more like season 1 and 2
I actually want it to be more like Inland Empire but I'm not sure how well that would work in Twin Peaks' universe.

>>84724442
I loved it, although I think Sheryl Lee is perfect in every way so I'm pretty biased

>>84728270
I can already feel the rest of the show being random scenes without any meaning.
It's painful because I really like the direction they took James but of course he's shown for 1 minute 6 episodes ago and never shown or mentioned again

>>84728270
expect seeing audrey just for a short scene in the whole 18 episodes

>>84728905
Audrey confirmed worst girl.

>>84721762
He looks fucking crazy here.

>>84728270
Imagine being David Lynch at that photo shoot, knowing all those actors along side him are barely in the show.
Do you think he felt bad for the actors?
Do you think he felt that this shoot was false advertising?

>>84729022
He's most likely a sociopath so I'm going to say no.

>>84721612
New thread: >>84729033

New thread: >>84729033

New thread: >>84729033

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What did Lynch mean by this?

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Harry Dean Stanton is 90 years old?!