Shame (2011)

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>>84669289
D'aww Man With Everything Want HUG!!!

>waaahhh I'm very handsome and have a large penis and people like to be around me and beautiful women want to have sex with me all the time
>please feel sympathy for me
>please

>>84669289
>why was his life so miserable /tv/?
Him and his sister were molested at a very young age

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>>84669298

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>>84669304
>boo hoo I got touched

At least they got some. There are some people who go their whole lives without being so much as hugged by another. "Muh child sexual abushe" "victims" are crybabies. Suck it up, at least somebody wanted you.

It's an addiction. The guy couldn't enjoy anything. He was feeling empty and led by parts of himself he had no control over.

It's a mental illness, logic doesn't enter into the equation. He could have had more, or less, in his life and would still feel the same. It's interor, not exterior. Fucking a supermodel and jerking off to tranny porn on his work computer were the same to him. Something he had no control over and no enjoyment of.

>>84669425
You have a point if someone where to masturbate on another without their consent or touch them in certain ways BUT anal and especially doing something to someone who is underage who isn't ready for any of that sort of thing will indeed scar that child for life.

As for grown woman who get sexually touched in public. Yeah no big deal but it's completely different and you cannot compare to someone physically having sex with an underage.

>>84669289
Only insecure retards actually think like this

>>84669289
How come no one ever talks about how miserable Patrick Bateman is, that he needs to kill people?

>>84669479
what do you mean?
I hope the satire didn't go pass you

meme aside, watch Shameless with Borderline (2008). It's the female version of Shame (but still different enough that you won't feel like it's a repeat, just similar themes) and it's fucking good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1048147/

>>84669519
Not everything is satire on this site. Sadly. Some people are serious and got meme'd into believing things like that as truth.

>>84669487
Because he's just "crazy."

>>84669522
*Shame*, not Shameless.

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>>84669522
>watch the day in the life of an average woman
'no'

>>84669556
You're going to let your hatred of women prevent you from watching a great movie?

That's just... sad.

He has intimacy and emotional attachment issues.

I though I would feel better when I finally moved out of my parents house and got a job that can support my material needs, but at the end of day I feel utterly alone and I'm not able to get attached to anybody because I fear they will abandon me because of my depression.

And I at my worst I "accidentally" posted my own nudes on Facebook so I could get an adrenaline rush in the morning just so I could start the day.

>>84669577
>movie about women
>great
loving
every
laugh

capcha: london no ball

>>84669593
r u grill?

post them if you are

>>84669593
You just wanted attention you fucking creep

>>84669522
Are you seriously expecting the emotional cripples at /tv/ to feel sympathy for a woman in a situation like that? To most of the people here the only reason why women do hurtful things is because they are monsters that hate them specifically. Emotionally their horizon spans from "Dog dies, sad" to their own problems which is mostly "Nobody wants to fuck me, why why why :(".

You may wonder why those people come here to discuss films, and I wonder the same thing actually. I don't know. They should just continue playing fantasy games or something.

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>>84669623
>He hasn't seen Tanner Hall
The best chick flick ever

>>84669289

the point is you're in a horrible position if you're addicted to something you have easy access to, it would be easier to be an ugly sex addict because you would have to try less to avoid your vice

and I know you are desperate for sex but I'm sure you can understand what it's like to be addicted to something you have easy access to since you probably can't go a day without posting on 4chan and jacking off

>>84669670
>what it's like to be addicted to something you have easy access to since you probably can't go a day without posting on 4chan and jacking off
Yes, and I wouldn't care for a movie about this.

>>84669642

The solution to that quandary is that they don't, no one discusses films on /tv/, this thread is off-topic because it's not about blacked.com or the latest twitter drama.

>>84669670
the problem here is, his addiction literally has negative effect on his well being, it didn't destroy his career or his health.

he's better off than most people on this board who have no addictions to anything.

>Hey director I think this movie could really use more diversity, you know a minority character
>well alright, I was just talking to Idris Elba ab-
>no, no we have no roles for a man, a minority woman
>OK how about an Asian -
>no no there's too many of them
>well maybe that Mexican from Modern Family -
>no no that's racist
>OK there's this black -
>perfect

>>84669678

because your life is agonizingly boring but sex addiction involves constantly seeking new exciting situations

>>84669688
typo
no negative effect

>>84669289
How many times are you gonna make this exact fucking thread?

>>84669289
>he thinks sex is the answer
Virgin detected

>>84669688

he couldn't maintain a relationship not even with his own sister and he's a sex addict because him and his sister were molested as children and every time he has a sexual thought he feels like shit because it reminds him of this which is a real problem rather than being a coddled manchild with no responsibilities

>>84669693
K. I would have preferred a compelling conflict that takes a incredible toll on the character, resulting in him having to go through personal growth, instead of becoming guilty and throwing out his porn, and not being able to get it up when he's fucking a proper woman.

>>84669289
the more you have the more you want, greedy people didnt realize their luck

No, he wants to fuck his sister. That's the "shame." Incestual love. He tries to find every other outlet, but it doesn't work. Why else have that scene with her boss?

>>84669289
>Help me /tv/, I'm super autistic and can't understand basic human emotions.

I love Shame threads.

>>84669425
lol
>being butthurt nobody wanted to rape you as a kid

>>84669747
So you wanted a movie made using the BS2 Hollywood formula like 90% of all fucking movies out there?

No.

>>84670026
I think he was making a South Park joke? That episode where that teacher was mad at his dad for not fucking him as a kid?

>>84669966
That's part of it, but not all of it. He's trully addicted, that wasn't just a coping mechanism.
It's heavily implied that he fucked his sister (maybe was forced to as a kid) and still wants to do it. That's the real 'Shame', I think.

ITT: waaaah I don't get sex so I'm obsessed with it

>Be molested
>Carry around a huge amount of pain your entire life
>Be sexually dysfunctional to the point where you can't have a meaningful committed relationship
>Have a bunch of superficial shit and empty sexual encounters to dumb the pain

hurr durr y is he sad

inb4 this is a bait thread

>>84669289
>having sex means your life can't be miserable

fucking virgins I swear

>>84670047
>it's different so you have to enjoy it
No.

>>84669289
Is this a 'movies /r9k/ will never understand' thread?

The weird thing is that I always got the vibe that there was some incestuous shit going on between him and his sister. The way he gets so jealous about her, the way she gets in bed with him, the way she's always teasing him, etc all points to it.
However, Steve McQueen flat out denied that was his intention and said that some brothers and sisters just have different types of relationships.

>>84670117
>Be sexually dysfunctional
Quite the opposite.

>>84670121
It's better to be miserable and have sex than to be miserable and a virgin, Chad.

>>84669425

This has to be one of the most pathetic and absurd posts on 4chan. It's like you outed yourself as a bitter loser whilst also incredibly stupid at once. Christ, have a good day...

>>84670128
It wasn't cookie-cutter enough so it made you have uncomfortable feel-feels?

>>84670158
I could mention conflict and character growth or having interesting events, but that's apparently not general enough. I will way that I sympathize enough with the character to care if he got better or not, so it wasn't compelling initially, and when the movie basically just ended, it wasn't satisfactory, which is, as general as possible, what I look for in a movie, not so much, "It's doing something different."

>>84670145

It's not what OP implied you imbecile.

A woman's is only good for sex and cooking bros :d :D

>>84670026
Fukin lold

where do they say they were molested?

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>>84670231
You forgor cleaning.

>>84670213
I'm not wrong though.

>>84670212
You're a pleb. Nothing really wrong with that, but a movie doesn't need a resolution or sympathetic characters, or even conflict (there's a few, very rare, conflict-less movies out there, mostly experiments in filmmaking, but that doesn't make them 'less') to be good.

Being a slave to the usual formulas like BS2 (and it's older Hero's Journey inspiration), 3 acts structure, etc. is very limiting.

his sister is the most attractive female in the movie

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>>84669289
you proved your virginity is intact with one post, good job

>Can't bring himself to touch the beautiful, intelligent, succesful ebony godess because she is too pure and regal for his white penis
>Immediately summons and degrades some filthy white whore in full view of the public

What did the black director mean by this?

>>84670325

Is it better to be depressed with tons of money than depressed and broke? Yeah sure, but in the end when you're on the verge of crashing you'd never stop to think to yourself "yeah, at least I'm not poor like that other dude, that definitely makes me feel better". It doesn't. If you're trying to compare these things you're probably not even miserable in the first place.

I'M SERIOUS WHERE IN THE MOVIE DOES IT SAY THEY WERE MOLESTED

>>84670419
>If you're trying to compare these things you're probably not even miserable in the first place.
I hope you don't seriously believe this, because then I'd be forced to believe you are projecting.

>in the end when you're on the verge of crashing you'd never stop to think to yourself "yeah, at least I'm not poor like that other dude, that definitely makes me feel better"
If they thought about that, they wouldn't be so sad. In conclusion, depressed Chads are retarded.

>>84670363
That's pretty much the point, dumb redditor.

>>84669289
>he has lots of sex, how could he not be happy?

Spoken like a true virgin

This kino is not for you, please return to watching Michael Cera get the girl in awkward comedies

>>84670513
IT'S HEAVILY IMPLIED YOU AUTISTIC SPASTIC LORD EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE SEVERE AUTISM FIGURED IT OUT EASILY

>oh noes. Cpt. Cunnilingus ejaculated too furiously in some pussy one day and everything appears grey to him.

Honestly men have nothing to learn from this film. Sure it can get old chasing pussy, you gotta do it to learn the lessons though. Fuck a lot of women.

Please women with your dick only and the fact you have more time to pursue other pussy (and actually do this) instead of eating hers will make her want to reward you much more than if you did it eat her out.

>>84670662
So much projecting, wish fantasy, and complete misunderstanding of the movie in your post.

I have no face for this. I have no feel for this.

>>84670662
You completely missed the point of the movie

It's about how you can still be completely isolated even when surrounded by (or inside) people constantly. He literally couldn't be closer to the people in the movie, but for him they might as well not be there, because loneliness is an internal thing, it's not defined by how many people you're around

>>84670714
>boo hoo im surrounded by women who want to fuck me im so alone
>feel sorry for me please

>>84670694
I'm not stupid enough to think this movie is worth interpreting as intended so I fill in the gaps that matter. Only idiots sit there and dutifully listen to the ugly girl recant her dream.

>>84670714
Loneliness is caused by holding onto high-minded ideals for authenticity and friendship. I'd bet if you could measure it these bleakcore movies prolong more depression than they ever helped by "normalizing it" they do nothing but cement passing weaknesses in men.

>>84669289
I'm pretty sure he is a manwhore and that's the point.

Also, I laughed when he dumped his porn collection.

>>84671028
The point of the movie was """sex addiction""".

>>84669289
It goes to show that friendship is worth more than empty sex.

>>84671088
He was a manwhore.

>some random slut at the disco follows him and fucks him

If he was a woman then it would be an easy whore getting fucked.

Also, pretty sure he was anal retentive. His appartment was spotless and everything was in order.

>>84671120
But he was a manwhore because he was an addict in the first place. That's why he spent so much money for porno.

ITT: I can be a manwhore anytime I want.

>>84670637
alright I just wanted to know if it's just implied or if I didn't pay attention

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Having a sex or porn addiction is actually really fucking terrible. Is there really no other anon out there that can relate?

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i fucking love these threads

>>84671240
>Having a sex or porn addiction is actually really fucking terrible
It's literally a non-factor if you are handsome. The movie was pure fiction.

>>84671022
Depression is a biological mental illness. Being 'depressed' by external circumstances or hardship/relationship issues is not true depression.

it's ridiculous how many of you neckbeards pretend to be able to relate to brandon

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>>84669289
Meanwhile somehere on 4chan
>30yo basement dweller in female clothes is streaming his anal adventures while calling his prostet clit

KEK

Seems like those screenwriters know nothing about real life.

that scene from metro was the best desu

>>84670637
Implied? This is what you are implying by suggesting that it was implied:

>that the benefit of the doubt always goes to the victim... more victims equals even less doubt.
>that no evidence apart from tears is required for you to believe something unjust happened
>you want to live in a "guilty until proven innocent" state

I hate you.

>>84671261
You're dumb.

>my alcoholism is a non-issue because I don't have a car
>my gambling is a non-issue because I still have some money left
>my pill-popping is a non-issue because I don't take enough at a time to risk an OD

>>84671311
are you talking about natalie mars

>>84671328
Autism. You have it. You should get that taken care of. I think they can cure you by removing the infected part of your brain or something.

>>84669593
I think you should abstain from stimuli like web and fap. Helped me. Also meditate.

>>84671339
>actually considering someone dying from sex addiction
The worst thing that can happen is getting an STD.

>>84671376
Armchair Chad-doctor to the rescue

Yeah its a shitty dumb faggot ego stroking bullshit movie. One of them good problems. When you feel "sad" that you have to dump a girl cause you dont like her. But you dont REALLY feel sad. You actually feel great. Its that superficial "oh jeez im such a terrble gosh darn heartbreaker" fake sad

This is a movie for women and faggots and nerds that want to fantasise about having problems

>>84671240
Abstinence clears the mind. St. Augustine is one anon that can relate and is arguably a more informative lesson on sex addiction than this film. (FYI He did a complete 180 from total Chad to Celibate Christian Bishop - that's why he's a saint)

Learn to go into and out of hedonism willingly. Like an attack dog that stops on command.

>>84671382
Are you for real? Some of them are death sentences and/or health issues ALL your life.

this is white males for you

they literally have to invent fake problems like sex addiction to show they suffer just as much as the people they oppress

>>84671434
The only std that can kill is aids and that's only from needles

>>84671434
Get a condom, moron.

ITT: roasties, coming to the defense of a shitty arthouse movie because it promotes cunnilingus and extensive sexual experimentation

could someone say some signs that they were molested instead of calling me an autist? I didn't pay too much attention during the movie

>>84671468
No. Fuck, you're dumb. Get educated.

>>84671471
Doesn't work for all STDs you stupid fuck. You can even get life long STDs just by doing oral.

>>84671715
Then don't fuck crackwhores.

>>84671710
>could someone say some signs that they were molested instead of calling me an autist
>I didn't pay too much attention during the movie

Then I won't give you signs, you autist. You wouldn't understand them since you're also an ADHD riddled faggot.

>>84671715
but nowadays you can cure stds with antibiotics except for hiv which is rare as fuck and herpes which doesn't do shit

>>84671752
They're fun. You're missing out.

>>84671760
fuck off the movie had a boring theme and I had other things on my mind. if you say a specific scene I might get it

>>84669642
>>>/t/umblr

>>84671791
Not as fun as proving normies wrong, again.

>>84670302
>cooking
>cleaning
haha you havent been with a woman in a looong time or never.
Woman cant cook worh a shit now and they are fucking sloobs now. Its fucking horrible.

>>84671763
Wrong. Lots of STDs are proven causes of cancers. Hepathatis B kills more people than AIDS. It's not exclusively and STD, but it's the most common mode of transmission theses days.

>>84671928
Not just B, but anyway you'll just make another dissmisive response so why do I bother?

>>84671951
C is the killer. A and B are not that bad. Or weren't that bad, but have been a big source of cancer in the last 2 decades.

>>84669425
As being literaly abused as kid i unironically laughed at this post so much it hurts
>>84670026
kek

>>84672004
How was it? Did you cum?

>>84669522
> pls watch a movie about a whore and then please dont judge women in real life for just enjoying themselves sweetie

Nope

>>84670157
t. diddled boy

>>84672047
Too young for that retard, and it was shit.

>>84670415
>Despite his self destructive tendencies he is too proud of his aryan genes to stoop to zoophilia and ravish the black slut with his glorious white cock.
>He purges the thought by giving a pure, white goddess the gift of his phallus in full view of everyone so all the world can see the beauty of two aryans procreating.

So the rumors of Raimi ghostwriting some scenes might be true after all.

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>>84670026

>>84672143
Did you become gay afterwards, assuming you're a guy and got assburgled?

discussing this movie on /tv/ is like discussing Supersize Me with some famine ridden, soon to be dead by hunger, african kids

none is bad, some is good, too much is worse

>>84672143
Did you do basic stuff, or was he kinky?

>>84671710
>We're not bad people... We just come from a bad place.
- The sister to the dude

To be honest the fact that they could have been molested never crossed my mind. I always thought they had incest at some age and felt guilty for that for the rest of their lives, but I may be projecting. I've done my share of incest and I've been hating myself since.

I don't feel like this movie was about addiction though. If you really want a movie about addiction, checkout Nymphomaniac.