Doctor Who General - /who/

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Reminder.

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New Doctor and his companions

>>84599273
NARDOLE IS STRONGER THAN THE DOCTOR
OBJECTIVELY BEST CHARACTER CONFIRMED

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>>84599391
is he a big guy?

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>>84599337
>cats was Moffat's shitposting trip all along

>>84599273
If the Doctor would have legit died after this scene I wouldn't even be mad it was the perfect ending

>>84599329
I'm a bit surprised they didn't age up the children a bit in this scene, to show that Nardole had been waiting for a few years at that point.

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>>84599329
>Bill thinks the Doctor is dead
>the Doctor thinks Bill is dead
>Nardole thinks both of them are dead

>>84599514

vid related is max canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMi8c8uglmI

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>>84599414
It was so obvious... How could we be so blind?

>>84599532
12's actual last words probably won't be as beautiful.

>>84599567
I hope the next Doctor gets just as involved with fans as Capaldi did, you can tell he absolutely loved it

>>84599350
This looks like every British drama series made in the last 6 years, Jesus Fuck.

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>the doctor thinks missy abandoned him
>the doctor doesn't know she stood for him
>the doctor doesn't know she died

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>>84599549
>Missy died without the Doctor knowing she decided to stand with him
>the last thing he will always remember from her is her betraying him

Fuck.

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>>84599596
New Master tormenting the New Doctor's companions

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>>84599598
>>84599610
this is genuinely one of the most depressing things moff has done

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>"Stupid, stupid Doctor!!"

Man the series 11 trailer was great, surprised they shot enough footage to show

>I can't keep on being somebody else
This probably just means "I can't keep changing from one person to another" but it almost sounds like he still thinks of himself as the First Doctor and the rest are just alter egos he adopts, especially given what happens right after. And also because 1 IS GOAT AND CANON. EVERY OTHER DOCTOR IS NONCANON SHIT FUCK YOU.

Is Clara returning?

>>84599786
Apparently so for the Christmas episode

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>>84599768
I think it might have to do with the Doctor literally wanting to just rest already and die, but as Moffat said he's eventually going to choose to live

>>84599786
Of course
Moff better not fuck it up, if he doesn't make the clara scene about her accepting her death while the doctor accepts his regneration I'll be very grumpy

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>>84599786
You bet your sweet ass she is. Truly Moff's final gift to /who/.

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>>84599598
>>84599610
It's fine. The Doctor knows he and the Master are buds.

The true question is:
Will 12 regenerate to Breaking the Wall?

>>84599974
I want it to be a mix of that and Every Christmas is Last Christmas

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>>84599834
>A massive change
You best not give me a girl Doctorina Whoette I swear to god.

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It's 2019 and you're watching your favourite Doctor Who episodes on youtube, then the video ends and you're greeted by
>HAY ye wuvley peopwuls!!! Dun farge' ta tickle dat wike buttwon and subscwibe fa moor cwazy docta hoo videos XD. Hugs and kwisses and hava wibbly wobbly wonderfwal day ta all yous siwwy bananas :P

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>>84600013
Will Rosenthal be the greatest Doctor yet? He'll be able to single-handedly revive the show by being eye candy to bring back all the tumblr fangirls while also being deeply witty with alien charm to appeal to the hardcore fans

>>84599610
Fuck you moffat.

>>84599834
>calls the finale a bloodbath
>only Missy and the non-Bill Cybermen die

Waiting for the Christmas special is going to be dreadful isn't it...

>>84599974
I hope not
it was okay in TDF but using it again one episode later is just going to undermine it. Let the regeneration music be a new composition.

>>84600471
I'm looking forward to the "does anyone know when the christmas special is airing?" meme being relevant again tbqh desu

>>84600491
>tfw your in nz and it airs on the 26th

>>84600472
>Let the regeneration music be a new composition.
Has this ever happened before? I'm not enough of a nerd to be able to identify many of the scores (I wish I was though) but that sounds like it wouldn't happen.

>>84600514
vale decem
can't remember 11's

>>84600534
11's was already used in... I want to say it was during Clara's speech in Rings of Akhaten. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJqnGpkaqrM

>>84600491
What about the classic "I don't watch Christmas specials because I'm an atheist" maymay

>>84600620
another favourite

if this is marigold's last episode too, do you think he will try and go out with a bang and make another cracker like vale decem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGW5fL6bhCY
marigold peaked with the 2009 specials and has really never been as good as the RTD era ever since

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If you haven't listened to How to Win Planets and Influence People, then do so. It's one of the funniest Doctor Who scripts in a long time.

You guys, I really like Doctor Who.

>>84600838
Ugh. Pleb.

>>84600747
Is it comfy?

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>>84600838
>He hasn't achieved true hatred of all things Who yet
I remember when I was young.

>>84599610
Without witness, without hope, etc.

>>84600013
I ironically want Rosenthal to be 13.

>>84600951
Literally explain yourself.

I'd be surprised to see Clara but not Missy on the special, she was a big part of the Twelve's era

>>84600013
He doesn't even speak like that, where has that come from?

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>>84600747
Speaking of audios, it's main range anon here. Recently listened to 37. The Sandman and 38. The Church and the Crown, enjoyed both of them, both solid stories with a nice bit of mystery in Sandman and a historical in Church and the Crown

Also listened to half The Romance of Crime and it's pretty good so far

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He knows

the doctors wife was fucking trash

>>84601069
Your fucking trash.

>>84601088
power of love is always bad until we want it to be good

>>84601069
Agreed.
>I said your were the most beautiful thing I'd even seen
Yeah, like the first Doc would have said that...

>>84601142
Don't worry Moff will retcon his character in the Christmas special and have him saying stuff like "ohh you sexy thing"

>tell you what doctor, if you regenerate I'll go back and face the raven

>>84601175
1st see's 12's TARDIS
>Compensating for something?
Could Moffat do it? Would he dare? I think so!

>>84601186
Clara deciding to face her death while 12 decides to face his regeneration would be the only thing that would make a Clara cameo worth it. But Moff won't do it because "no this is Doctor Who and good things happen not bad so Clara will live forever"

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I haven't watched the episode
How did they mess up the cybermen again

>>84601198
>1 enters 12's TARDIS
>Slowly turns his cane upwards

>>84601239
I guess it was no worse than how they usually mess them up.

>>84601239
Flying, and Auton gun effect for the Cyberman gun

>>84601239
the mondasians have rocket boots after thousands of years of evolution
besides that they just all kind of blow up easily and don't prove themselves to be much of a threat

>>84600747
Do they ever release the short trips on CD?

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>>84601253
>I see you've re-decorated...I like it

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>>84601253
>>84601256
>>84601267
oh
i
i just want good cybermen stories
is that too much?

>>84601239
Not really any worse than usual for NuWho. The first part has some good conversion stuff I suppose, second part has them as a generic robot army with the companion fighting off conversion somehow with the strength of her emotions or some bullshit. It's fun to see Mondasian style Cybermen I suppose.

>>84601286
In this day and age, yes.

>>84601275
Why is Bradley so cute?

>>84601286
Considering there's only ever been like a handful of good Cybermen stories, yeah it is

>>84601275
>1 looks down at his crotch, a surprised expression on his aged face
>"I must say.. I haven't felt THAT sensation in quite some time!"
>12 trips and falls onto a drumset and regenerates into Mark Gatiss wearing a pair of fake breasts

It's gonna be shit

>>84601142
>le 1 was just grumpy all the time maymay
I can totally see him saying something like that, especially when he's alone with Susan, who he was more intimate with than any of his other companions.

>>84601329
>you know, the workman ship on this ship is extraordinary, yes mhm. wonderful
thats about as good as you're gonna get, if he was in a good mood.

>>84601239
They clarified at least that cybermen are inevitable and appear in many different planets and take roughly the same path.

>>84601273
No

So what's Big Finishs plan for 8? They're slowly approaching the Time War, and after that they've reached the end of his timeline. What's next? More main range stuff? A new separate 8th doctor adventures as its own range but in main range style, set before or after Charley?

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>>84600838
Same.

>>84601465
We've still got the Time War boxsets and more stuff with Liv and Helen before we get to that point. It'll take at least a few years.

>>84601465

MeGan is quitting after Time War releases. He's been playing the part for 20 years.

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There's only going to be one (1) more Capaldi episode.

>>84601394
Why not?

>>84601532
By that logic Davison, Baker and McGann should have quit years ago.

>>84601465
According to notthebigfinishforums, he's never returning to main range.

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>>84601522
Really? I thought it was the Time War up next.

>>84601532


>>84601554
Why would I know?

>>84601573
>Why would I know?
you might secretly work for BF

>>84601465
He's a part of the Classic Doctors, New Monsters as well as the Time War series

https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-eighth-doctor---the-time-war-series-01-1384?range=112

The Time War Series will last until 2020 so who knows what he'll do after that.

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>>84601553
SHUT. UP.

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>>84601275
Imagining Bradley getting really excited about all the different things Capaldi's TARDIS has compared to his own is cute. Would be a nice take on the stale "I don't like it" meme. And him asking about what all the different switches, etc. do could be a fun meta reference to Hartnell himself.

>Books! Right here in the console room? My dear boy, what a splendid idea! I'm glad to see we don't lose sight of what's important, hmm?
I don't know how to impersonate Hartnell's speaking

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>>84601580

>>84601573
Yes, there's the Time War boxsets, but Liv and Helen haven't left yet so they'll get back to them.

>tfw Alien Bodies adaptation never

>>84601609
Just throw a couple of "yes yes" in there and an "indeed" or "quite right" and you're good

>>84601609
It's gonna be GOAT. I just hope Moffat get's Hartnell spot on. Is it confirmed a 60 minute episode? It really needs to be

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Have there been any more new leaks since the photo of two Tardises?

>>84601347
No, that's all wrong. The Doctor could be reserved but he showed emotion at truly intense moments and stealing the TARDIS is the biggest decision of his life. I'm not saying I'd expect him to break down in tears, but something like
>Look at that, Susan. The ship's central control column. Isn't that the most beautiful thing you've ever seen?
It's something he's probably never seen before (forget all that crap about 4 having taken TARDIS exams) that represents freedom, escape, a new life.

>>84601648
All Christmas Specials are 60 mins

>>84601625
I wonder if they'd have to negotiate with Lawrence and/or pay him royalties. I don't know how rights for the books work. If they did, I can see why BF wouldn't bother. They probably don't want to talk to him and who knows if he'd even agree if they did.

How can we bring Larry back to the light side, /who/?

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>>84601657
No, leakanon did tell us that the new Doctor is definitely a male though.

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Will Venusian Aikido ever get old?

>>84601682
Leak anon here to confirm. Yep. 13 is definitely male.

>>84601672
>>>Look at that, Susan. The ship's central control column. Isn't that the most beautiful thing you've ever seen?

Sorry m8, just trying to read that in Hartnell's voice is pretty much impossible. If you have to argue that something just barely might be possibly said by a character under the most extreme of circumstances, then it's probably not too much in-character.

>>84601682
Real leak anon here (this isn't me >>84601706), my source has since told me that the next Doctor's identity isn't as set in stone as they originally thought. I'm not sure what it means either.

>>84601680
He'd probably agree to get paid in Legos.

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>>84601706
>>84601735
WHICH ONE IS THE REAL ONE LADS

>>84601695
12 is so based. Why does he have to go again? I feel like he just hit his stride in series 10

>>84601735
People like you are why proper leakers don't bother coming back. Stop trying to impersonate me. I have the original hi-res photo of the 2 TARDISes, but it's people like you who stop me wanting to bother.

>>84601706
Even if you are bullshitting, BCS have already started concept for 13, and one of the designers confirmed it's a male on their Facebook. I guess we take it with a grain of salt, but it seems to be a decent sauce.

>>84601770
Because either the BBC or Peter thinks the dropped ratings are his fault.

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>>84601733
>Sorry m8, just trying to read that in Hartnell's voice is pretty much impossible
That's because Wandering in the Cletus Dimension didn't even try to put a Hartnell spin on the dialogue, not because of the sentiment itself. Hartnell's Doctor appreciated design and beauty in things and was attracted to complicated machinery and in general was fascinated with things that were new. It's not ridiculous to think he could've called the TARDIS beautiful, although I agree it's not the most Hartnell-esque term. "Magnificent" or "elegant" or something like that is more believable.

>>84601553
Nah, he'll be back for the 60th anniversary

>>84601804
I think a better word would be extraordinary

Me again, my source has just informed me that I'm not the real leak anon and that I was only pretending to be. My source also says I should apologise to >>84601782, but I simply REFUSE

>>84601735
Real real leak anon here (>>84601735 and >>84601682 aren't me). My secret source told me the next Doctor is a queerfluid transblack womynkin. Any ideas who it could be?

>>84601834
I think you're right.

next time leak anon has a genuine photo to leak he should put on a trip
I promise I won't complain

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>>84601745

I am >>84601706 the 2 TARDISes leak anon. I won't post the original but hopefully this validates me some-what.

>>84601848
epic joke, cletus. tell us another

>>84601804
This

Why didn't the cybermen upgrade themselves so that the mondasian and pete's world variants were upgraded to be the newest model cibber? Why would all the different cibber models coexist?

>>84601875
your life

>>84601914
Budget.

Remember when the cybermen had super speed and could only be stopped by blowing up the planet?

>>84601914
>>84601918
This but in-universe. They had limited materials to work with.

>>84601872
Fuck I forgot I saw that. What was going on there? How was that allowed?

>>84601872
>"cybus cibbers are completly robotic except the organic interior parts!"
>"whoops we don't have extras that can act!"

>>84601918
The original plan was to design a whole new Cyberman, so the Mondasians would 'evolve' beyond any other model we've seen and become the new Cybers. But budget.

I just finished the season finale. Did the Master just die for good? John Simm's Master said Missy was given a full blast and to not try to regenerate so I assume this means they killed off the Master for good even though he escapes?

What the fuck is "The Pilot" exactly and why was she powerful enough to take down a Dalek as well as re-arrange atoms if she were telling the truth about making Bill human again? I assume this means that we now have Clara and Me as well as Bill and her running around the universe having adventures through space and time?

>>84601914
How many times have the Cybermen been created? I was wondering that too until I realized they all developed in completely isolated environments. Weren't the Cybermen from Tennant's tenure created in an alternate universe and thus never existed in the one the show takes place in and weren't the ones at the end of Series 8 created by Missy? I thought it was implied that John Simm's Master created the Mondasian Cybermen there.

>>84601981
>Did the Master just die for good?
It's ambiguous enough that it won't stop a future showrunner from bringing the character back. Typical master episode really.

>>84601999
So Missy could still regenerate?

>>84601968
Huh, I hadn't heard that but I thought it was kind of weird that didn't happen. Makes sense.

>>84602022
>I remembered shooting a very scary lady and for some reason remembered to always keep a laser proof vest on at all times
>it absorbed enough of the blast that I was still able to regenerate

easy

I just realised that puddle Heather can rearrange atoms and shit, which is basically Bad Wolf Rose 2.0, except Heather and Bill get to keep the special power whilst Rose has to lose it and y'know, face consequences

So I knew there were a few more multi doctor stories in audio and books and such than in TV but I just looked it up and holy shit there's like a hundred of them

>>84601981
>they killed off the Master for good
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>84602037
So how come John Simm's Master didn't recall her saying that to him?

Can someone explain to me how was the ship related to Mondas?
Was it from Mondas or headed to Mondas?
If Mondasians built it and it was from it, why was blue men group there? If Monas had that kind of technology, why not just build more ships instead of bothering with Cybermen? If they were part of some space community, why not ask them for help?
If it was headed to Mondas, how were Mondasians aboard?

>>84602022
>did you really think i wouldn't program my own laser screwdriver to override the anti-regeneration feature if the DNA of the user matched the DNA of the person it was used against?

There, I just gave you a halfway reasonable way Missy could regenerate and I'm retarded so some future producer/writer/showrunner could probably come up with something even better.

>>84602052
???

>>84602038
>face consequences
like what?

>>84602053
headed to mondas
being flown back to mondas by mondasians

What is planet 14?

>>84602080
just a cheeky nod to add a couple comics to the canon bubble series 10 takes place in

>>84602038
Would Heather and Rose essentially be considered gods (goddesses, w/e)?

>>84602078
So they had space travel? Why not just flee the planet then?

>>84602070
Well, okay, the Doctor faced consequences - he took the energy and regenerated. (If Rose had kept it, they said she'd have died.) But super duper Bill and Heather get to just essentially keep the magic powers, and that's fucking lame.

>>84602090
limited space travel
it was a crew of 50 on the colony ship, heading back to mondas

>>84602096
>But super duper Bill and Heather get to just essentially keep the magic powers, and that's fucking lame.
Well, to be fair, Bill and Heather didn't single handedly wipe out the bad guys in their episode, like Rose did.

The magic space oil is a commercial fuel type right? Meaning there's a lot of it? And it can travel space and time at will, and absorb a person and take on their persona?
What was the "target found, target engaged" whispery voice the other side of the oil made in the pilot?

>>84602111
I just find it stupid that we've gone from such power and ability being basically god-like, uncontrollable and dangerous, to 2 randoms getting to whizz around the universe with it with no consequence.

>>84601981
>How many times have the Cybermen been created?
Three.
Mondas - 1
Ship - 2
Alternate Earth - 3.
Everything else is derivative of the above. And it could be argued that Ship is derivative of Mondas, since the original Mondasian Cybermen is probably where Simm got the idea to turn them in the first place.

>>84602039
Favourite Multi Doctor stories /who/. I'd have to go with The Five Doctors, but all I've infosorbed is all the TV ones, plus Sirens of Time and Five Card Draw

How did the Doctor hold regeneration after getting hit so many times? In The Impossible Astronaut he gets hit once < regeneration < twice < "dead". Holding makes fuck all sense, and Cybermen rays were probably deadly, Missy was visibly afraid after seeing them after her.

>>84601871
I'm not really sure what I'm looking at here to be honest

>>84602136
First one seems like another piece of random power creep that happens all the time. Nobody cares how it will reflect on the whole Whoniverse. That said, it could be one of the kind, it was never established.

The rest seem like a leftover that didn't get excised during revision. Originally puddle seemed like a portal of a sort, but Moffat abandoned the idea. That's my theory.

>>84602179
because 12 is metal as fuck

>>84602179
That was the Tesselecta that got hit

>>84602161
Weren't the Mondasian Cybermen also created on an egg, I mean, the moon?

>>84602184
On the right, two TARDISes. Deliberately blurred to stop idiots pasting it everywhere after I asked for the other 2 TARDISes pic (zoomed in) to not be posted on Twitter and then someone did anyway.

>>84602206
"If I'm killed before regeneration, then I'm dead." The End of Time (Part 1)
It was just a proof of concept.

>>84602224
>someone anon posted it on Twitter

See this is why we can't have nice things

>>84602224
>after I asked for the other 2 TARDISes pic (zoomed in) to not be posted on Twitter and then someone did anyway.
I'm sorry to hear that anon
if it makes you feel any better, I specifically didn't post it because you said you didn't want it to be. Shame someone else didn't respect your wishes

What's the smaller blurred box on the left?

>>84602218
No, but they did attack the moon. Possibly with the aim of killing it.

>>84602218
No, they came from Mondas. There aer only 3 independant points of origin.

>>84602270
No problem. I'm sure #dwsr will keep people happy til official promos come out.

>What's the smaller blurred box on the left?
2 people on set, just production crew. Didn't want their identities known if the photo got out.

>>84602308
I'd recommend putting on a trip so people don't start impersonating you and making up shit

So does the master ally with the cyberman to begin the plot with the cyberman from series 8?
DESU that's what I thought the rain was. Wtf was this magic lesbian deus ex, lol

How come it felt weird seeing Rose, Martha, and Donna in a flashback?

It even felt weird seeing Amy.

Has it really been that long?

>>84599873
she looks like she has a dick here

>>84602087
I can't beleive I missed The Doctor mentioning Marinus. World Shapers by Grant Morrison is awesome...so I guess that means Jamie's death from it is canon?

>>84602348
>5 years since The Angels Take Manhattan
>9 years since Journey's End

>>84602338
it's pretty obvious missy got her cybbers from here

>>84602326
Suggestion noted, thanks anon.

>>84602428
>name
please fucking tell me the chumbleys are coming back

>>84602451
Kek, sadly not to my knowledge. Christmas won't be the absolute nostalgia-fest some fans are expecting.

>>84602451
Honestly, I'd be surprised if they didn't at least get a name drop. Moff is going all out in letting Capaldi live out all his Doctor Who fantasies before he leaves, it's kinda sweet

The new doctor should be a child actor, we haven't had a child actor play the doctor before.

>>84602472
Are you able to tell us what your role in production is? Have you read the script to the episode, or is that on a need to know basis?

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>>84602485
Kinda have.

>>84602502
what does a nation of space wizards need with a barn?

>>84602499
I'm not part of production. I just know someone who is. I can't be any more specific.

>>84602502
That was before he was the doctor

>>84602505
The same reason anyone else would need a barn.

>>84602510
You dumb or what? Still the same fucking person, "Doctor" name or not.

>>84602525
I was speaking more out of a term of enjoyment. We haven't seen a child play the doctor in his normal role.
This is why english sucks, emoji's are the future.

>>84602348
I thought it was weird that it showed all the RTD companions but no classic companions, especially when series 10 has such a hard on for the classic series. I know NuWho has been mostly its own self-contained narrative despite having lots of references to earlier stuff, but now I feel like it's been going for long enough and is so far from where it started that it could treat its own early years and Classic Who as more comparable. If nothing else, it's weird that he remembers Sarah Jane as the middle aged version he met like five times more than as she was when he traveled with her for years.

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>>84602502
>it was actually Bradley under the sheet

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This set has been recreated for use in the Christmas special.

>>84602568
But would the scene be longer if they had to list all of the Classic companions?

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>>84602602
As has this one, along with Hartnell's TARDIS interior.

>>84602602
>>84602615
do you know how much the plot of the tenth planet is relevant to the christmas special?

>>84601936
>>84601941
it's just that one guy. the others in the back are doing a normal stomp. I guess he was just overexcited to finally play a Cyberman

>>84602615
How big a role does Clara play?

>>84602615
>along with Hartnell's TARDIS interior.
But don't they already have that from Hell Bent and Adventure?

>>84602637
literally who the fuck are you?

>it wasnt explained why the tardis took off by itself in empress of mars

>>84602655
Idk
Tripfag

>>84602655
It's Caroline

>>84602603
I wouldn't want all of them, just a few key ones. Sarah, Susan, maybe Ace or Jo. It would be nice to have everyone shouting "Doctor!" and have it end with Susan shouting "Grandfather!" Although then you'd have to color all the flashbacks black and white or hers would be the only one and it would just be weird - the eternal problem with reusing footage from '60s Who. But yeah, keeping it short was probably a concern.

>>84602655
You don't know Caroline? Hi boardie

>>84602629
Sadly no.

>>84602637
A minor cameo towards the end, likely aboard 12's TARDIS.

>>84602648
They have the console and a wall or two. They've gone to town this time, finding all the bits and pieces seen in the console room since 1963, including the fancy clock and the chair, etc.

/r/ing any big finish guides you may have

>>84602682
Oh thank god
I was scared it'd focus a lot on her

If you know, is the 12th, 13th and 1st Doctors the only ones appearing?

>>84602690
I'll guide you. Tell me in which direction you want to be led.

>>84602672
The honest, most probable answer is: the montage was hastily put together in a short space of time with no real thought other than "right, name the companions from recent years and find when they shouted Doctor." It's strange that Rory and Strax are missing, but where do you draw the line? Brian? Wilf? etc.[/spoiler]

>>84602706
Oh, no, don't worry. Clara's appearance is more like Amy's in Time of the Doctor - a small little scene which has no impact on the overall plot.

>>84602672
How come Russell T. Davies or Steven Moffat never did anything involving Susan? Wasn't she a time lady which means she should also be able to regenerate or did something happen in Classic Who which put an end to that?

>>84602713
What order should they be listened to?
What are the best, what are the worst?
Any little quirks to note about them that I might not be expecting?

>>84602682
>including the fancy clock and the chair, etc.
HYPE

>>84602706
>If you know, is the 12th, 13th and 1st Doctors the only ones appearing?
Yes. 12 and 1 throughout the episode.
(If the others appear, it'll be old footage.)
13 only appears at the end in the 'traditional' final scene of the episode. The Xmas readthrough had a script which stopped as soon as 12 regenerated. The final scene will be filmed later, and written by Chibnall.

>>84602739
Phew
I'm pretty excited for the special now that my main fears are gone

>>84602742
You wouldn't even need to do a new incarnation, Carole Ann Ford is still alive.

There's no real answer to your question though. There's no obvious reason why nobody brought her back, including classic series producers.

>>84602766
Will Susan be in it?
Sorry for so many questions

>>84602794
Can time lords/ladies age gradually?

>>84602267
It's all over Twitter, Instagram, tumblr... which I should've suspected, but I'm more pissed someone on here posted it to Twitter right after they'd asked me and I'd said no. That's just plain rude.

>>84602766
Are Ben and Polly in it?

>>84602742
>How come Russell T. Davies or Steven Moffat never did anything involving Susan
I can see why RTD wouldn't touch her - he wanted the Doctor to be the poor and lonely last of the Time Lords, and revealing that not only there's another survivor besides the Master, but also that survivor is his close relative would fuck that image up.
Don't know why Moffat didn;t though.

>>84602812
That's a dumb question and you know it

>>84602801
No info on that. I don't know as much as maybe some here think I do. I could ask but if I ask my source constant questions, it raises suspicion on me. If I find out anything, I'll just drop it here.

But personally, I'd suspect we may see Carole Ann Ford somehow, even if only for a tiny cameo. It'd be mad not to?

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>>84602812

>>84602826
Not them, but why is it dumb?

>>84602744
>What order should they be listened to?
Depends on what you're interested in. I think starting from early main range is good, but if you're mostly interested in 8 you could start with the Eight Doctor Adventures instead, but he has main range audios too.

>What are the best, what are the worst?
If you're only interested in listening to high-quality audios and skipping the lesser ones, you probably shouldn't stick to listening in an order and just pick up specific audios people recommend.

>Any little quirks to note about them that I might not be expecting?
It's just sound

>>84601040
he's busy in the US playing Lucifer (and doing a great job)

>>84602615

Wait, are you the same anon as last week saying you've seen props, it's definitely Marshall and you'd post pics?

>>84602839
Why does older 11 make me think of 1? Is it because of the long gray hair?

>>84602848
The First and War Doctors died of old age - War himself was clearly young when he first became War. If you don't know classic who or minisodes, then 10 got aged up and unless it's retconned, YANA Master. Unless you say "That wasn't natural" or "He was under chameleon arc so it doesn't count", see >>84602839

So, off the top of my head, that's
1st Doctor
War Doctor
10th Doctor
11th Doctor
YANA

>>84602873
No, 'prop/Axon anon' is a different anon.

I came on here yesterday, with that "2 TARDISes" photo (which is now everywhere), and I posted a blurred HQ photo of it above too. Since then, I've kept this trip.

I'm sure Axon/prop anon was just a fame hungry attention seeker, sorry.

>>84602812
You wouldn't think so and nothing I can think of in the classic series implies it, but the War Doctor and 11 both significantly aged so I guess so

>>84602825
Probably since she isn't that popular with all her screaming. But they should at least mentioned her in connection with the story about his daughter and such. Maybe they did and I forgot

>>84602815
It would be hilarious if they were. I think they might be the least cared about companions ever.

>>84602889
They definitely did. He tells Donna it's not the first time he's been a father.

>>84602889
No, they did not, I watched that episode recently and it seems like any mentioning of Susan came during 12 and I think some of 11's run.

>>84602760
Expect the console room at Christmas to look a little more 'lived in' than the Hell Bent set. (Also, since TTP runs straight into Power of the Daleks, I believe they've also got a chest which 2 later rummages through in there too)

>>84602889
>she isn't that popular with all her screaming
That's something that only people who have actually seen Hartnell Who know about though, which isn't most of the audience. The real appeal of bringing back Susan would be her unique relationship and history the Doctor, which could be written without anyone getting wise to the fact that she was actually a shit companion all along.

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>>84602883
What I always wanted to know is whether or not a Time Lord's look accurately reflects the age. 3 and 12 looked old from the very beginning of their life. Does it mean they were also physically older and had lesser lifespan than 5 or 11?

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>>84602944
Forgot to attach this, for reference of how it'll probably look. The upcoming console room set will be a lot more faithful than the Hell Bent DWE set which was more cobbled together.

>>84602919
He also says to Rose, in Fear Her: "I was a dad once."

>>84602885

Ah right, I missed that as I didn't come on here much yesterday. Thanks for the info.

>>84602983
Can you source confirm that?

>>84602953
3 didn't seem to exist that long on screen but iirc if you do the math from one of the last times the 2nd doctor said his age to one of the first 4th doctor said his age, he lived for a couple hundred. 12 has lived for a few hundred too, iirc.

>>84602963
Will the roundels be real or a painted wall?

>>84602996
Wasn't 12 imprisoned for 4.5 billion years?

>>84603011
Real proper roundels!

>>84602963
I always loved all the chairs and antiques and stuff in the TARDIS. They contrast nicely with the futuristic look and imply how much traveling the Doctor has done to acquire all of it.

I want the Christmas special to be at least 90 minutes long
Peter deserves a grande send off

How do we un-cuck Doctor Who?

>>84603022
wasn't he in a timeloop or some shit though

>>84603022
he kept respawning. After the whole thing he was only older by however long 1 cycle took.

>>84603042
It's 60 minutes, unless they secure an extra 5-10 minutes later down the line.

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>>84603044
It's simple - we, uhh, kill the left.

>>84603036
Agreed, wanderer! I'd love to see everything in there, even if it's just background - like the space time visualiser and the astral map, but I doubt they've gone to those extremes.

So Missy/Master will be resurrected as a Cyberlord due to Doc's tweaking of the Cyberman prime objective and extending definition of human to include two hearts - right?

Why do I wish I could be The Doctor's companion when I am a straight biological male currently undergoing gender transitioning?

>>84602946
True. And she have a special status as the first companion. So it is a bit strange that they haven't used her. Maybe it would be a bit odd to just throw in a "Yeah, btw this is my granddaughter, so I have a family that I haven't talk about before." If he married River Song and the other wife is alive and well back on Gallifrey he is a bigamist. WTF I hate the Doctor now. Marriage wrecker!

>>84603084
The Jews are only puppets of the Reptilians, not Reptilians themselves. You fucking retard.

>>84603098
The Doctor having a living wife on his home planet is my headcanon reason why he didn't take Cameca with him.

>>84603084
Verity was jewish, cletus.

>>84603138
Yeah, she was also controlled by reptillians from space

>>84603098
What if the doctor is running away from his wife all along?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8arYi7Xf6Zs

Is there any documented proof that Hartnell was a racist, let alone more racist than other old British men in the 1960s?

>>84603235
He was a product of his time really. Anneke Wills (Polly) has spoken about how he was disgruntled that a black actor was playing an astronaut

Are we looking at one of those coma type stories, where it's all in the Doctor's head? Will how badly injured he is affect his proper regeneration at the end of the series?

>>84603256
>he was disgruntled that a black actor was playing an astronaut
Sounds like half of /who/

>>84603155
Actually makes sense. The classic nagging bitch wife. How are the marriage rules on Gallifrey btw? They do marry, and just one at the time? Maybe it was an unhappy arranged marriage or she was just a intergalactic space slut playing the field in space and time. That's some epic cock carousel. Poor cuck-doctor, no wonder he is fleeing that

>>84603175
Did people really believe the Twelfth Doctor would regenerate back into the First?

Is this Lego Dimensions now?

>>84603295
cringe

>>84603256
>getting mad at BBC diversity quotas
Hartnell is literally /our guy/

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Can anyone tell me if Big Finish or the books/comics ever did anything more with this? It's my first and favourite story.

Also still the best Who story. Yeah I said it.

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>>84603274
I have been wondering about this. 1 could just be a weird hallucination or vision.
>yfw that's the explanation for why he looks and sounds slightly off, like how they were going to make Hurndall's Doctor an android

Chumbley, will there be a Christmas special trailer at Capaldi's final comic con panel later this month?

The doctor's first wife should be dead desu

>>84603347
did they actually film in france?

>>84603422
Yes

>>84603347
No, nothing beyond a mention in some short stories. If it helps, Gareth Roberts and Jonathan Morris' 4/Romana books and audios are definitely made with City of Death in mind.

>>84603447
Unless you count an entire character being created out of one throwaway line from Romana.

>>84603447

Thanks dude, I'll have to check some out. Any recommendations for me on the books/audios?

>>84603472
who /irvingbraxiatel/ here?

>>84603472
Oh shit, I forgot about Braxiatel.

>>84603481
Maybe the Iris Wildthyme audios? Definitely The One Doctor.

So who is going to be the Next Doctor?

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>>84603534

Since Missy's/the Master's timelines were out of sync, did she never remember regenerating from John Simm? Must be scary just waking up one day as someone else.

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>>84603534
We've known for ages m8.

>>84603542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVXo4y7VTCw

>>84603557
don't think much of the new companions tbqh

>>84603550
>did she never remember regenerating from John Simm?
They said so at the beginning of the episode m8.

>>84603256
Speaking of, what were the political alignments of the other actors who played the Doctor? I know Davison, Tennant, and McGann are lefties. And Tom Baker thinks both the left and the right are nonsensical.

>>84603595
Most actors are left leaning, just the three you mentioned are actually members of left parties

>>84601465

There's the Time War boxsets and BF have said they also want to continue his stories with Liv and Helen, so I don't think we've seen the end of the Eighth Doctor audios just yet.

They could also do boxsets with new stories with him and Charley or Lucie.

>>84603582
Kinda ruins the theory that Missy is the last Master then, which is sad 'cause "the Master" standing with the Doctor is a good way to "terminate" the character.

>>84603498
Irving Braxiatel is amazing.

>>84603663
They could never terminate the Master. He's too ingrained in the show's history.

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>>84603647
I figure they could have some audios where he sees what happens after the Time War, after the War Doctor's done his thing with the Moment.

Obama will be the next Doctor

>>84603663
>Kinda ruins the theory that Missy is the last Master then
How?

>>84603705
Would be entertaining if only for Trump's tweets attacking his Doctor's methods after every episode

>>84603663
You can never kill the Master.

They'll just show up again sometime in the future with no explanation of how they escaped from death in The Doctor Falls.

>>84603696
The Master can and should return, always against the Doctor. But it would be nice to know that in the end he/she will do the right thing and align with the Doctor.

>>84603705
This. The End of Time was all foreshadowing, RTD's been playing the long game (not a coincidence that he wrote an episode with that title in his first series) and pulling the strings behind the scenes the whole time.

>>84603733
>He Can't even let one Dalek die in order to protect his people. Sad.

>>84603721
'Cause the next Master now might have a bit of decency in him/her. That's unlike the character throughout the show.

>>84603747
If the Master returns I want a whole troll episode of the Doctor suspecting that the Master is up to no good but they aren't responsible for any of it.

>>84603705
And Trump the next Master?

>>84603767
You should listen to Big Finish's Master. It's so fucked up.

>>84603771

>low energy Doctor fails to stop my plans again. Sad! Make Gallifrey Great Again!

>>84603771
Try Hillary libertard

>>84602744
The main range is mostly standalone, but there are trilogies and arcs that occasionally show up. The Eighth Doctor audios should be listened from release order first though.

The Sara Kingdom audios, Peri and the Piscon Paradox, Spare Parts, Jubilee, etc. If it's written by Shearman, Dorney, Fountain, Guerrier, or Morris, you've got something good in your hands.

Obviously, the actors will sound older. Most of the 60s companions won't sound anything at all like themselves. While other characters like Mel, Ace, and Peri sound pretty much the same as they did in the show.

New thread
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>>84603816
>>84603816

>tfw The 12th Doctor Mentioned Donald Trump by name and noted he was "inevitable"

>>84603809
>>>/pol/

>>84603368
No.

>>84603833
>anyone to the right of me belongs on /pol/
>anyone who even remotely dislikes Hillary belongs on /pol/

grow up pls

>>84603696
>he

>>84603088
dubs of truth

What are some comfy stories from Classic Who I can watch before bed?

I need to slaap now so I want to put something on to happy me fall asleep. I started watching Tom Baker's run and left off in the middle of Ark in Space which I think I should re-watch from the beginning, but I don't want to re-watch it right this second.

Are there any good Hartnell stories? I thought about watching The Aztecs since I heard from /who/ that it was a pretty accurate portrayal of the culture for the 60's.

Recommendations?

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Why do I find Susan Foreman cute when I am currently undergoing gender transitioning?

>>84605154
Are you the Doctor?