WWI vs WWII

Vietnam fucking shit

>>84501796
For political thrillers and team up films WW2.

Everything else, WW1

>>84501796
It all depends on what you're going for you stupid fuck. Just kidding, the real answer is 'nam.

none because no matter what they'll never make it accurate

Korean war movie when?

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>>84501839
>>84501860
Literally all Vietnam movies are americunts crying about killing chinks, no looking into the ideologies that started the war, no real stakes if they lost the war since Vietnam is a third world shithole.

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>>84501796
Pacific theater WWII
I actually liked Hacksaw Ridge but the Pacific is still better

>>84501848
This nigga gets it

>>84502033
only We Were Soldiers and Platoon cry about it, FMJ portrays killing gooks as positive and fun and Apocalypse Now isn't really about the war itself at all

>>84501796
For horrors/pointlessness of war then WW1

For action and more good v evil then ww2

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>>84501917
at least most WWI movies don't have token blacks fucking everywhere.

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>>84502183
>WWII was good vs evil because professor Goldstein said so

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>>84502048
>Band of Brothers
>The Pacific
Will there be another one?

>>84502292
WW2 is MURRICA FUCK YEAH

WW1 is more "why are we here?"

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>>84502183
>good v evil
I know right? It always makes me sad knowing the good guys lost the war :'(

>>84502179
>, FMJ portrays killing gooks as positive and fun
no it didn't you down syndrome fuck

>>84502432
Well it made me want to kill gooks, maybe you're just a pussy

>>84501796
>dude lets twist some random sticks and put them into the no mans land area, it'll look like dali
>broooo yeah lets do it

WB was a mistake

>>84502391
>:'(
back to where you came from, larper faggot

>>84501796
WW1 is criminally underrated because of how badly WW2 overshadows it

All anyone thinks about is the west front being trench warfare

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>>84502458
>maybe you're just a pussy

Wow, you are so badass. I bet you can't get girls off your dick

>>84502469
what's evil about kicking out the banker cabal and instating your own currency free of usury and inflation to support your own economy?

>>84502328
"The Mighty Eighth", but probably not before 2018 or 2019

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>>84502462
that's literally what no man's land looked like

>>84502328
Yes, there's one about a bomber crew coming out within the next two years.

Russian/Nazi front.

Enemy at the Gates is kino

>>84502179
>FMJ portrays killing gooks as positive and fun

too deep for you obviously

WWI = kino
WWII = films and movies

>>84502574
are they using actual restored planes?
that would be rad as fuck

>>84502598
Vietnam = flicks

>>84502552
Evil is a point of view. In particular its Americas view of what it saw as an illegal occupation of Europe by German forces.

Similarly it can be seen from a German perspective as the fight against bolshevikism therefore again it's Good b Evil.

WW1 is more "lets fight for no reason"

>>84502462
I think that is from BF 1

>>84502626
there are more good Vietnam films than there are WWII ones, this is a fact

>>84502561
what a kino image, imagine a scene where it's just beaten down soldiers upon soldiers walking through there

>>84502212
go back to /v/ you pathetic faggot

>>84502608
Probably not. I've been in a few and they're pretty confined. I imagine filming in one would be too restricting.

>>84502656
name 12.

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>>84502179
>FMJ portrays killing gooks as positive and fun

>>84502608
I think i remember they are using reconstructed body for the crew, and then CGI. I hope they manage to pull it off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBy_FIlcOJs

Iran-Iraq war

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WWI can only be portrayed on screen when the person in charge has an in depth understanding of the setting and political climate of the time because nothing about the war was simple or straightforward. The war is more akin to a bible story than a modern screenplay.

WWII is for shitty directors to make a "brutal war film" showcasing the "evils of humanity" and cash in on that sweet propaganda money

>>84502701
there is no good WWII kino besides Saving Private Ryan, the rest are flicks at best

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>>84502179
>FMJ portrays killing gooks as positive and fun

Especially the scene with Joker crying when he has to kill a gook sniper.

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Has anyone seen paths of glory?

Are there any pro-vietnam war films?

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>>84502804
Joker was a faggot, everyone knows Animal Mother was the real hero of the film

>>84502832
No
There is no pro-vietnam anything ever

>>84502832
Yeah, Green Berets, but it's shit

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Apocalypse Now-style psychedelic WWI-era movie when?!

>>84502183
WW2 was morally evil vs even worse evil. The British/Americans/French/Chinese did horrible things, but even they weren't as bad as the Soviets or Italians, who weren't as bad as the Germans, who weren't bad as the Japanese.

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>>84502772
>Das Boot
>Enemy at the Gates
>Thin Red Line
>Hacksaw Ridge
>Letters from Iwo Jima
>Downfall
>Schindlers List
>The Pianist
>Band of Brothers
>The Pacific

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WW1 is better because of Strayan Kino fuck yeah mates

>>84502772
Come and See is better.

>>84502906
>a bunch of flicks and two miniseries
I'll give you Das Boot though

>>84502292
>>84502391
triggered

>>84502908
Gallipoli was pretty good.

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>>84502908
K I N O

>>84502951
*tips menorah*

>>84502033
Rescue dawn isn't

>>84502819
I marathoned the first two scenes yesterday. Kinda boring desu

>>84502701
Name 12 Kino WW2 smegma swallower

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>>84501839
Vietnam was A E S T H E T I C

>>84502328
I wish they would do some North African kino

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>>84503047
this

>>84501796

WWI is perfect for lovecraftian horror.

>>84502033
>I lost two of my best buddies while mowing down hundreds of undernourished naked chinks poor me how can I adapt to middle class life again knowing that my bros didn't make it

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>>84502906
>Forgetting true Stalingrad kino

>>84503031
The last scene is kino though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJH8hO7VlWE

>>84501917
>accurate means good
that's why alexander is such a masterpiece, huh?

>>84502903
>The Germans not as bad as the Japanese
>what is the Holocaust
I'm not even memeing. Yes, Japs were monsters, but they weren't planning to exterminate whole ethnic groups.

>>84503031
Wow how long that take you?

>>84503045
See: >>84502906
also:
>Come and See
>Ice Cold in Alex
>Bridge on the River Kwai

That's 13.

>>84503145
Only 3 are Kino. Rest are flicks

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>>84503097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48

>>84503130
>but they weren't planning to exterminate whole ethnic groups

they literally would have exterminated the Chinese if the war hadn't started when it did.
don't tell me you're a Nanking denier

your life story is a flick

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Are there any movies about Rhodesia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJFRTJgPbU

>>84501796
>there were only fights in EUROPE during the WW1 and WW2!

kys you fucking redditor

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>>84503097
F U N D I T
U
N
D

I
T

ww1fags are the worst

>>84501796
Civil War.

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>>84503256
>American **********HISTORY**********

>>84503227

The Wild Gease

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>>84503313
>yfw USA has been a nation for longer than Germanistan

>>84503201
They would have created puppet regimes in China. They weren't planning to exterminate them.

>Nanking denier
Of course not. Fuck the Japanese, but I see their part of the war as typical Asian war full of cruelty and tortures. The Holocaust and Germans' plans for Eastern Europe are more unique and evil.

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>>84503227
never even heard of the country, let alone a war fought in it.

>>84502772

Stalingrad is 1000x better than SPR, and I say this as an American.

>>84503359
american education

>>84503384
but I'm English...

>>84502903
>but even they weren't as bad as the Soviets or Italians
>Italians

The fuck did Italy do that was so bad?

>>84503359

Zimbabwe used to be run by whites. Blacks got a raw deal but they had it a lot better than they do now. /pol/ likes to use Rhodesia as an example of white superiority, ignoring the fact that it was illegal for blacks to go to school so there was no way for them to maintain the infrastructure left behind.

>>84503352
Charlemagne created Holy Roman Empire in 800 A.D. Germany was a continuation of this great empire.

>>84503347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPJIPToK_gs
thanks it looks good

>>84503421
holy fuck how whipped is england if they don't even touch you about RHodesia in school

>>84503359
>he never went on /k/

>>84503431

Being Italian

>>84503421
So you don't even have an excuse. You are just retarded

>>84503359
>>84503421
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>>84503031
>I marathoned the first two scenes
Wut? Why not watch the whole film? Serisouly leave this board.

>>84503454
It wasn't really Germany. There were a bunch of german states. It only got unified in the XIX century

>>84503511
I'm 22 though...

>>84503526
newfag

>>84501796
That's a sexy looking Sherman.
would hitch a ride to Berlin on/10

>>84503031
Wow

>>84501796
WWII BECAUSE IT HAD BETTER HARDWARE BUT NOT ENOUGH THAT IT REMOVED BATTLEFIELD OPERATIONS!!! PLUS THE NAZI'S HAD COOL UNIFORMS!!!FACT!!!

>>84502906
>Inglouriouous Basterds

>>84501796
Napoleonic wars.

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>>84501839
this, i wish they showed both sides more often tho

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>>84503684
Tarantino's writing and directing was pretty hit and miss in this movie though

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>>84503227
>Rhodesia
Watch pic related

>>84503227
Kek'd at that video, not even /pol/

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so fuckin aesthetic

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>>84501796
WW1 is the epitome of what a nightmare war actually is, WW2 is the epitome of what war could be

>>84502908
Good kid.

>>84503452

They could go to school, they were just shitty cheap schools so that they'd go to be unskilled blue color workers. Literally better than the modern day African American experience kek.

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>>84502033

>>84503823
what movie?

>>84503227
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJFRTJgPbU
pure kino

>>84503823
WW1 is a war between soldiers
WW2 is a total war

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>>84503673
>Not appreciating WWI's nigh-medieval aesthetics
Fucking pleb

Tora Tora Tora is the best war film ever made.

>>84502552
>WHY DO PEOPLE CALL ME A NEO NAZI!!
>I think hitler was a good guy

I wonder why.

>>84503951
Who are you quoting?

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>>84503822
Is war-time photography kino?

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>>84503951
Hitler WAS the good guy, prove me wrong.

>>84503880
Generation War I think.

Which do you watch first Flags of our Fathers or Letters from Iwa Jima?

>>84502632
I think the mass extermination of Slavs, Jews, Poles and anyone else they deemed bad is pretty evil.

It's not a point of view in this war.

>>84502179
Plebian

World War 2 by far. World War 1 is by far one of the shittiest wars in all of history. WW2 had everything you could want in a war setting.

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>>84503921
Pure aesthetic

>>84503985
Flags first

@84503981

>starting the deadliest war in human history
>dividing your country in two for almost fifty years

Sounds like a great guy!

>>84504058
but churchill started world war 2 and hitler united germany, how can you blame what happened after he died on him?

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>WW1
>not the most kino war

>>84501796
You can't trick me, the top one is from Battlefield 1 so of course WWII is a better setting for movies.

>WWI was HELL AND NIGHTMARE!
>HAHA, WWII was pretty fun, I know this because my American adventure films told me!

>>84502292
>Germany annexed Austria, albeit peacefully
>Germany annexed Sudetenland and force a gun to Britain's head
>Germany invade Poland and the Allies go to war to defend Poland
>French and British troops sit at the Maginot line and hope for a peaceful resolution
>Britain wanted peace with Germany they didn't attack Germany directly, they invaded Norway and dropped leaflets instead of bombs.
>Germany annexes France
>Germany invades Belgium
>Germany invades Netherlands
>Germany invades Norway
>Germany invades Denmark
>Germany invades Greece
>Germany invades Yugoslavia after they refuse to a be a puppet
>Germany invades Luxembourg
>Germany swallows the rest of Czechslovakia
>Germany invades the USSR

B-but Germany w-were the good guys because edited Hitler speeches make m-me feel good and a /pol/ack said so, r-right?

Naziboos need to hang.

>>84501796
Any good ww1 horror out there ?

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>>84504018
Why have no modern day filmmakers taken advantage of this?!
I genuinely feel minimal use of CGI could be used to add to its psychedelic atmosphere

>>84501951
This wtf guys

>>84504115
In what way Churchill started WW2? Seriously, where are you people getting this nonsense from?

>>84503823
But they're heading West (left).

>>84504180
Yeah, the writers of WWII should have put some more effort into making the villains less one dimentional

>>84504192
I want to write one

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was the us bombing campaign kino?

>>84501951
It's called the forgotten war for a reason
Also
>What is MASH?

>>84504219
hitler wanted a path to connect east prussia to germany and tried peaceful negotiations for many years with poland that was shot down repeatedly via churchills interests because churchill wanted germany to invade so they could start a war

>>84504192
I suppose Deathwatch would fit the bill.

>>84503869
fucking star wars nerds are a cancer, such an insult to the original image

>>84502965
>>84502908
Tfw lads died for our island now it's full of chinks

>>84504262
>US destroy culture because they're jealous since they don't have any

Pottery.

>>84504222
From their point of view they are heading east

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>>84504216
Don't want to piss off the Koreans, or more importantly the Chinese.

>>84501796
Turtledove's work make a great miniseries. WW1 between the US and Confederates could be fun as all hell to depict.

>>84504250
Seems like the perfect setting for some fucked up psychological/supernatural spooky horror. Weird that there's barely any out there.

>>84503421
You are definitely not English if you have never heard of Rhodesia.

WW2 ofc
During WW1 literally nothing happend

everyone afking in their ditch playing tictactoe and waiting for the otherside to be stupid enough to go out of their ditch.

>>84504357
>good

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>>84504369
The value of remembering the fallen ones is the same in walks of life, even fictional

>>84504501
Sauce on pic?

>>84504246
The motive is there:

>Treaty of Versailles too harsh
>Germany made responsible for WW1
>Occupation of Ruhr
>Economic turmoil
>Lost lands in war
>Nationalistic fervour takes hold of Germany whenever France is remotely strong
>Ethnonationalist leader

It is just that WW2 was unquestionably Germany's fault and Germany committed atrocities that far outweigh any actual reasoning.

Germans were not 1d, the actions of the German state, however, were 1d.

>>84504433
The budgeting would be a bitch, especially if you wanted to go all the way

>>84504493
Only one I could think of

>>84504222
You are not really this stupid, right?

>>84504219
>>84504339
I have never met someone so retarded

> poland that was shot down repeatedly via churchills interests because churchill wanted germany to invade so they could start a war

Churchill was not Prime Minister when WW2 broke out, you dumb cunt.

It is also hilarious that you fabricate this noble war goal that Hitler had even though in Mein Kampf Hitler says he will expand eastwards into Russia for Living Space for the German volk.

Read a book, you 70iq cumstain.

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>>84503976
Fuck yeah it is.

>>84504339
>for many years with poland
For how many years?
>Churchill
What was he doing in 1930s?

>>84504653
how'd that happen?

>>84502832
A movie about the century-long Vietnamese struggle for independence could have potential. It would hard to do without portraying Communism in a positive light, and Americans are still insecure about the outcome of the war though.

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This pic makes me think of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmILOL55xP0

>>84504705
Naziboos unironically believe that Churchill was PM in 1939 because they have never read a book.

Naziboos are the worst type of idiots. They constantly cry "muh Jew propaganda" whilst falling for Nazi propaganda. Never has information been more readily available to fat neets like themselves, yet they still fall for Nazi propaganda. It's almost an incredible feat.

>>84504653
They use pitbulls as weapons?

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>>84503454
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

>>84504627
This is the main problem with stormfags. They simply don't know history. And I'm not talking here about interpretations, I'm talking about dates and events.

>>84503454
fucking kek every time

>>84504627
>>84504811
>>84504847
You don't have to pretend to be 3 different people

>>84504882
Are you retarded?

>>84504627
>>84504811 These two are me, the other isn't.

>>84504835
Fuck off, Voltaire. Don't you have a fedora to be tipping?

>>84503421
Then you're just dumb.

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>>84504811
Yeah, read a BOOK fucking moron nazis!!!

Anyone have any good ideas for a WWI horror movie

>>84504526
Idk the artist but its depicting the 250. Infanterie-Division 'Blau', or Blue Division.

Made up of Spanish who wanted to help Germany against the Soviets.

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>>84502048
It got pretty real.

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>>84504881
Gee these fellas looking swell

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The allies where the good guys because they didnt have concentration cam-oh wait the boer genocide, but at least they were not racis-oh wait jim crow laws and lynchings, well at least they were not imperialis-oh wait the vast majority of the world was a colony of the allies....
WELL FUCK YOU WE WUZ GOOD BOYZ AND SHIT ANYWAYZ
>American posters

>>84505108
jesus christ america...

>The event 70 years ago was one of the worst massacres that occurred after the war.
In mid-June, 1945, repatriated Carpathian Germans, Slovaks and Slovak Hungarians were returning to Slovakia via the Prerov area.
>Their train standing in the Prerov railway station was noticed by soldiers from the 17th infantry unit who were returning to their base in Petrzalka, near Bratislava, from a military parade in Prague.
>They had 120 women, 71 men and 75 children dragged out from the train.
Officer Karol Pazur, who initiated the action, told his fellow soldiers that the deportees included collaborators of Nazis and also SS members who were to blame for war atrocities. Pazur also named a firing squad to execute them.
>The massacre took place in the Svedske sance locality in the night to June 19, 1945. The victims were buried in a mass grave, some of them still alive.

>According to Prerov historian and museum director Frantisek Hybl, Pazur initiated the horrible massacre in order to cover up his own dark past as a member of the Andrej Hlinka Guard, a Slovak pro-Nazi paramilitary unit, and the past of his brother as an SS officer.

Film when?

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>>84505108

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>>84504402

Krauts did the same to the French

>>84505136
>ywn be a medalled chauchat operator

>>84505108
>>84505172
What's wrong? It's all true. There is not a single wrong information there.

>>84502552
the part where you invade all your neighbours

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>>84504559

Would it really cost that much to make some sets that are underground tunnels?

You could pretty much set the whole film in the defensive works of the Germans

>>84505108
It's biased and emotionally involved, but there is not a word of it that isn't true.

>>84505218
This is pretty bad, I agree.

>>84503795
this is kino

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>>84505062

RARE

This is some brit color process. I've never seen a front line photo taking with this film stock.

>>84505230
a bit ze overkill, yes?

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>>84505218
>no reason except their religion

hahahahahaha

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>>84504262
>Europe was still cleaner than my shithole country even after getting carpet bombed
Look at those fucking trashlesss streets

>>84503431
I'm guessing Benito Mussolini had something to do with it.

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>>84503431

gassing Ethiopians

>>84505580
The vast majority of Jews were persecuted for no other reason than their religion and genetic ancestry. Unless you unironically believe that all Jews are evil nation-destroyers, whilst simultaneously believing that no one man can be as evil as the allies said Hitler was.

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>>84505218
>No reason except their religion
>Jews who werent even religious were persecuted
Nice contradiction
>Jews invented democracy
This is an American book right?

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>>84505444
>be german soldier
>be in trench
>english artillery has quietened down in this sector lately
>maybe I can finally get some fucking sleep
>hear faint scraping noise from deep below

>>84505218
>THE CHOSEN PEOPLE believe everyone is equal

AHAHAHAHA AMERICAN EDUCATION

>>84505444
is that dog okay?

>>84505661
>The vast majority of Jews were persecuted for no other reason

So not the only reason then, cool.

>>84502328
It's called Generation Kill, and it's kino.

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>>84505661
Sure thing, schlomo

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>>84503869
is there a 40k version?

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>>84505594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5i9k7s9X_A

>tfw the qt girl at 1:38
you think she was brutally ivanized?

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>>84505868

DELET

>>84505868
Confirmation bias at its best. There couldn't possibly be any reason that 9/14 commanders were Jewish other than they are all involved in a plot to make sure everywhere was communist.

9 Jews leading a failed revolution was not the reason Jews were subjugated by the Nazi party, and I'm pretty sure you know that.

>>84505868
Half of these people weren't Jews.

>>84505972
Jews only made up a single-digit percentage of the population of Germany, so why were more than half of the leaders of the communist rebellions Jewish? They made up significant fractions of the communist and revolutionary rank and file too. This can't be explained by chance.

>>84505982
so 2% of population but 50% of communist leaders
truly makes one ponder

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>>84505972
>9 Jews leading a failed revolution was not the reason Jews were subjugated by the Nazi party, and I'm pretty sure you know that.

It was literally one of the main justifications used by the Nazis

>>84503050
fucking this. they gotta do a flick about Torch all the way up to the capture of Rome

>Vichy Franch
>Kasserine pass
>Rommel vs Patton vs Montgomery rivalry
>Italian armistance
>themes of the entire front being pointless and no one back at home giving two shits about them

shit would be fly af

WWI is the closest we've ever come to hell on earth desu

>>84501796
WWI should be in the horror genre, that war was beyond fucked up

>>84506017
>so why were more than half of the leaders of the communist rebellions Jewish?

Think deep and hard, friend. Why would Jews, a people with no home and a people who have been consistently subjugated since the Bronze Age, want a utopian idealistic society where all men are treated equally regardless of origin?

Now, of course we know that isn't how the Communist states turned out, but the Communist ideology was a utopian ideology that believed in a society where people were treated on merit and not their race, sex or religion.

>They made up significant fractions of the communist and revolutionary rank and file too. This can't be explained by chance.

Ahh yes, you're right, there is no other explanation than 'all Jews are in an evil plot to subjugate the world and destroy us all'. No, there is no other explanation, we must turn off our brains and not think critically, we must listen to what Goebbels, a propaganda minister from 70 years ago, had to say about the Jews.

>>84506188
>Now, of course we know that isn't how the Communist states turned out, but the Communist ideology was a utopian ideology that believed in a society where people were treated on merit and not their race, sex or religion.

And one where all religion would be wiped along with national identity and loyalty to the familial unit.

>>84501796
WWII is easier setting because of a more clear cut enemy, so that tends to get more attention. WWI would require more actual work from the writers and directors, as they'd actually have to explain shit beyond "Nazi's are evil, m'kay?"

So I have to say, WWI has potential for better movies.

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>>84505972

oy vey it was just because of their religion

>>84506188
stop

posting

retarded

redit

faggot

>>84506030
So? There were 500,000 Jews living in Germany. Do you think all of them were revolutionary communists?

>>84506017
It can be explained by their class, profession or history.

You should read about these events because your don't really understand what happened then. Few numbers and facts can be very misleading. For example: all these people did not work together. Spartacus Uprising and Soviet Bavaria (there were actually two) were different things.

>>84506188
>we were oppressed so everyone else should be oppressed too

also forgetting that by the time of 1914 jews (on average, as a group) had actually done rather well for themselves financially and socially. Wilhelmine germany was not a particularly antisemitic place. they weren't in crushing rural poverty like many germans were. they were the social equivalent of wealthy people who adopt fashionable left-wing ideas to be rebellious, it wasn't out of any material need.

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>>84506355

>>84506419
>>we were oppressed so everyone else should be oppressed too
That's not what he said at all anon. No point in having an argument if you're gonna be purposefully obtuse with every post.

>>84506412
>For example: all these people did not work together

so?

>>84506420
I wasn't the guy you were replying to, just saw your blatant redit layout, didn't even read your retarded post. Kill yourself.

>>84506254
>And one where all religion would be wiped along
Karl Marx disliked religion because he thought it was the 'opiate for the masses', but Communism doesn't rely upon atheism to work, it relies upon no state religion. What do you Communist states did was not really what Karl Marx wanted.

> national identity

National identity in this day and age were almost synonymous with unequal treatment based upon birthplace, so you can see why Jews, a persecuted people, flock to this utopian ideology.

>the familial unit.

Loyalty to the family was never going to be wiped out, Marx never said that, he said his economic and social policies would change the family unit as we know it, not destroy it.

>>84506355
Brilliant counter argument, my good friend.

>>84506467
you appear to have reading difficulties

>also forgetting that by the time of 1914 jews (on average, as a group) had actually done rather well for themselves financially and socially. Wilhelmine germany was not a particularly antisemitic place. they weren't in crushing rural poverty like many germans were. they were the social equivalent of wealthy people who adopt fashionable left-wing ideas to be rebellious, it wasn't out of any material need.

Good WWI movies are leagues better than good WWII movies
Bad WWI movies are fucking awful though, at least bad WWII movies can be seen as stupid fun from a certain angle

>>84506412
>Do you think all of them were revolutionary communists?
No, there were plenty of bankers, pawnbrokers, other usurers, scammers and thieves as well.
Oh, can't forget the "academics", the "artists" and the jews peddling the garbage too.

>>84502669
>a 10 minute uncut scene where it's just beaten down soldiers upon soldiers walking through there with no soundtrack
ftfy

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>>84506504
>What do you Communist states did was not really what Karl Marx wanted.

>>84506412

So are you admitting that Jewish presence in communists circles was part of the reason for what the third reich did?

>>84506468
So it wasn't some evil Jewish conspiracy to take over Germany.

>>84506419
It wasn't as bad as in Russia, but Germans were still anti-semitic.

>>84506553
I'm an actual /pol/fag but Stalinism is not what Marx described

>>84506543
yea that's basically what I meant, no soundtrack of course so you can just hear the environment and the men walking, length of scene is debatable
good imagination kino

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>>84506504
>Loyalty to the family was never going to be wiped out, Marx never said that, he said his economic and social policies would change the family unit as we know it, not destroy it.

Loving every laugh

Reminder that Bakunin was 100% right about marx and communism

>>84506577
Yes. That doesn't justify their actions in any way.

>>84503905
WWI was total war too dawg

>>84506609
What Marx wanted was still immoral. You aren't entitled to my labor. I have the freedom to choose my own path. If you try and tread on me I'll kill you.

>>84506635
Marxism-Leninism != Marx

>>84506327
Unsubstantiated post with no sources or actual substance. Hmm.

>>84506419
I never said everyone should be oppressed. I said that Jews were oppressed allover the globe which is why they flocked to utopian ideologies.

> jews (on average, as a group) had actually done rather well for themselves financially and socially.

Making money is not the same as being equal. Anti-Semitism was rife across all of Europe until after WW2.


>Wilhelmine germany was not a particularly antisemitic place

Kaiser Wilhelm II and the reactionary parties were floating the idea of clamping down on Jews because he thought they had too much power (before WW1, then they needed the Jews because Jews make money).

Everywhere in Europe was anti-Semitic and Jews were often left out because of their ethnicity and religion. Jews did well economically because of their strict familial rule that is good for a child and leads to successful individuals.

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>>84506696
>If you try and tread on me I'll kill you.

Such a badass

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WWII for sure. Even better than Vietnam.

>>84506736

Good thing Bakunin just shit on Marx then and was dead when Lenin was still a little kid

>>84506696
*tip MAGA cap*

>>84506598
>So it wasn't some evil Jewish conspiracy to take over Germany.

when did I say it was? there's no nigger conspiracy to make chicago unlivable but that doesn't mean they aren't responsible for it being a warzone

>>84506553
Marxism and Communist States are not interchangeable.

The very term 'Communist state' is an oxymoron because Karl Marx didn't want a state. He didn't want a state to rule, he wanted the workers to work together and rule.

"Not real communism" is thrown around to defend Stalin, but I am not a Stalinist nor a Communist, but if you actually read Marx, you'll realise that the USSR/Maoist states are not what Marx envisioned.

>>84506696
what exactly is your labor?

>>84504464
It's amazing dumb people still believe this

>>84506618
>length of scene is debatable
it's a love letter to tarkovsky :^)

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>>84506740
>Unsubstantiated post with no sources or actual substance. Hmm.

Its Mein Kampf, literally the nazi manual

But I guess tons of commies being jews had nothing to do with it, just religion

>>84506840

Twist- he's actually on welfare

>>84506825
>He didn't want a state to rule, he wanted the workers to work together and rule.
Fucking hilarious people actually took this moron seriously, absolutely delusional.

>>84506825

And if you read Bakunin you would know why Marx ideas were a fucking delusion

>>84502965
But historically innaccurate.

>>84506696
>What Marx wanted was still immoral

Morality is subjective and changes over time. If we made our political decisions based on morality, which is based on Christian teachings, then we'd let in millions of refugees per year.

>You aren't entitled to my labor. I have the freedom to choose my own path

You've never read Marx, have you?

>>84501796
>WWI movie

kino

>WWII movie

kike propaganda

>>84506899
I know, it is utopian and doesn't account for human nature, but being utopian is what draws Jews to it.

>>84506901
I'm not a Marxist, anon. I'm a constitutional Monarchist BTFOing Naziboos.

>>84506925
>dude lets have an elite revolutionary class leading the works
>and then those leaders
>they will just give up power when the revolution is won
>and move on to the next country

Marx had an autist understanding of human nature

>>84506792
I was referring to your picture of Pavlik Morozov. I don't know what Bakunin said about Marx.

>>84502381
america entered the european theatre in 1944 dumb burger fuck. they did supply the allies but WW2 has very little to do with americans.

>>84506995
yup, you never read marx

at least watch like a youtube video on it or something

if you want a good representation of WW1 watch wonder woman. best shit I ever tried to watch.

though most wars are pretty boring, not enough ancient history films

>>84506820
Some Jews were communists, so what? Others died in WW1 fighting for Germany.

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>>84506921
Bong detected

>>84507027
>let me tell you what you've read

lol

I want more fun buddy war movies with a Generation Kill vibe.

>>84506853
So Hitler is your source, lol. Can you name all those Jewish prime ministers of Weimar Republic?

>>84507004
>america entered the european theatre in 1944

1943

>>84507190

The point is the major impetus for antisemtism was not religion, but a belief that communism = jewish and were systematically undermining germany.

You can disagree with this idea all you want, but this is what the Nazis themselves said and made up a major chunk of their propaganda.

>>84507221

it was 42

>>84507221
true. still a minor player in the war.

>>84507301
US declared war on germany in 1941 but didn't step foot in europe before sicily in 1943 and didn't fight nazis on a large scale until normandy

>>84507301
42 : North Africa, 43 : Italy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48&t=34s
WW1 shell shock coming through

>>84501796
WWII
Nobody gives a fuck about WWI

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>>84501796
clone wars

>>84507365
>>84507378

B-17s were bombing Germany in 42

>>84507416
>Nobody gives a fuck about WWI

Amerifat perhaps

>>84505641
But that wasnt even WWII, that was 1936-37

>>84507448
>war happens because some countries are lead by a bunch of retarded autists
>aside from the first few months, the frontline barely moves because fucking no one is experienced enough with the modern weaponry they had at that time.

>>84507304
>minor player

The allies wouldn't have done jack fuck without burgers. Britbongs were getting bombed, Frenchies were under occupation, Poles were getting fucked, only Russians were actually doing something

>>84507267
Not really. It's honestly more complex than that. It was both hatred of communism and capitalism, both were considered Jewish inventions.
Jews represented everything that was material and corrupted, while Germans (Nordics/Aryans) everything that was spiritual and pure.

Of course most Germans didn't care about this shit. They voted for NSDAP because they were disappointed with democracy.

>>84504403
only nazis deal in absolutes

>>84507446
Proofs?

>>84507513
Does "without burgers" in this scenario include U.S aid (weapons and materials) or just burger soldiers? Because if you're referring to material aid then true, but if not then you're full of shit.
>only Russians were actually doing something
>doing something
"something" as in winning a war.

>>84503823
war films shot digitally never look authentic

>>84507609
>but if not then you're full of shit.

How exactly?

>>84507513
>Britbongs were getting bombed

And fighting in Asia and North Africa. Blockading Germany. Trapping the Italian fleet in the Med and eventually destroying it. Sinking the Bismarck. Cracking the enigma code. Destroying the German capital ships. Supplying German battleplans to the USSR. Giving Germany false Allied battleplans which ended the war years earlier.

>>84507594
>THURSDAY, 2 JULY 1942
>(ETO, 8th Air Force): First USAAF air operation over W Europe. 15th Bombardment Squadron (Light) flying 6 American-built Bostons belonging to No. 226 Squadron Royal Air Force, join a RAF low-level attack on De Koog (2 aircraft), Bergen/Alkamaar, Haanstede and Valkenberg (2 aircraft) Airfields in the Netherlands; 2 aircraft are lost, 1 damaged beyond repair and 1 damaged; 6 airmen are MIA. Aircraft flown by Captain Charles C Kegelman, Squadron Commander, is severely damaged, but Kegelman succeeds in bringing it back to base at Swanton Morley. VIII Air Force Composite Command is activated in the US. Second B-17 arrives in the UK via the N Atlantic ferry route.

http://www.8thafhs.org/combat1942.htm

>>84507004
The US Navy started fighting in the Med in early 1942.

>but WW2 has very little to do with americans.

That's not even remotely true, even if you're only talking about Europe. Which is retarded because it completely ignores the Japan situation.

>>84507513
The Brits were doing tons, just because they were no longer fighting on the ground in Europe doesn't mean they weren't doing anything. They were holding their own against the Germans in the air, at sea, and in North Africa on their own.

>>84507703
>Trapping the Italian fleet in the Med and eventually destroying it.

To be fair a kid in a zodiac with an AK could have done that

>>84507703
None of which were actions that would win the war, but rather aid the soviets, which were worse than the nazis

>>84507703

>sinking the Bismarck

https://youtu.be/M1Ufc2hI4FM

>>84502033
>Literally all Vietnam movies are americunts crying about killing chinks
I don't remember Deer Hunter being about this at all

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>>84507813
>soviets
>worse than the nazis

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don't mind me just posting proper ww2 kino

>>84507863

Higher kill count

>>84507864
>this was based on a real story
>you will never ride through a depression in the desert with your bros

>>84507813
>None of which were actions that would win the war, but rather aid the soviets

That's the same fucking thing. And you think cracking the enigma code and destroying the german fleet wasn't important in winning the war? Are you retarded?

>>84503047
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG

>>84507893
>Higher kill count
No?

>>84507813
Them actions ended the war years earlier. I never said the actions ended the war, you implied that all the British were doing was 'getting bombed', which is utter bullocks.

>>84507903
Letting the soviets win is not winning at all.

>>84507517

Right, it had very little to do with killing them because of religion, which is the original claim that was being disputed.

>>84507893
The Germans killed 30 million Soviets, not to mention several million Poles, French, and Brits. If the Soviets killed an equivalent number then Germany wouldn't even be half of its current size today.

>>84507972
The soviets were mostly killed by their generals tho

>>84507961
It is when they're on your side in a war...by your logic, the US sending badly-needed supplies, planes, ammo, fuel, etc. to the Soviet Union wasn't part of winning the war.

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>>84507931

If slavs arent people, then sure

>>84507967
He never said they were killed because the Nazis hated Judaism, he said that people were killed simply because they were Jewish, regardless if they had acted against the state or not.

>>84507673
US weapons and aid were crucial in holding Britain. By the time 1945 rolled around it was the soviets that beat the Nazis. Allies helped of course but they didn't decide to war either way. Obviously the soviets would've probably stopped their advance long before Berlin if UK had been occupied earlier. So the influence of US is major but the influence of US soldiers not so much. They just showed up when it was time to wrap things up. The Nazi army and industrial complex was already running so low on supplies and materials the soviets would've crushed them whether the US troops arrived or not.
>>84507803
>Which is retarded because it completely ignores the Japan situation.
WW2 is a European war. Some chinks claiming some other chicks as slaves is like the spin-off nobody asked for.

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>>84508011
You think the dead Soviets, overwhelmingly civilians, were killed by Soviet generals?

>>84508013
Read about operation unthinkable. The Allies wanted to win not for the soviets to win

>>84507967
Both were kinda linked together in Nazi ideology. For example Eckart, an early Nazi ideologist wrote in 1920s a pamphlet called Bolshevism - from Moses to Lenin. He considered Moses a communist.