13 Reasons Why blamed for teen suicides

I want a movie that makes trans degenerates suicide.
One that shows how the only countries that tolerate trans freaks all have dying populations,
and import from cultures that want to kill trans freaks to compensate for their infertility.

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>families don't want to blame themselves so they blame fiction

>>84488040
wtf i love netflix now

the show wasn't pro-suicide at all
>retard parents with retard kids blame show for their bad parenting

>>84488040
That's a good thing. I never understood why do people keep crying about mass suicides so much. Suicide is good. Less people on the planet is always better. Housing reasons for example.

>>84488226
B-but they TALKED about suicide! They must be Pro suicide! I bet those writers and filmmakers all listen to heavy metal and play dungeons and dragons too!

>>84488226
>girl is wronged by people
>kills herself
>her suicide gets revenge on all those people
>everyone now appreciates her and remembers her
How is that not pro-suicide? It's the full version of a teenage suicide fantasy 'YOU'LL MISS ME WHEN I'M DEAD!!!!'

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>>84488449
MY NAME IS NOT IMPORTANT

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>>84488105
>fiction that portrays suicide as a good idea don't want to blame themselves so they blame the families

i'm glad.

Not because they're right, because it is a bad show and producers need to know not to make shit like this again

Kid with neglectful parents is going through some heavy shit and try to get attention by telling them he/she's watching a show about teen suicide. Parents can't bebothered to even pay attention when he/she's talking to them about it. He/she kills him/herself.

IT WAS THAT SHOW'S FAULT REEEEEEEEEEE

>>84488226
>>84488449
It was presented as being an effective means for "revenge".

>>84488514
You literally made all that up.
Good job.

>>84488515
>>84488488
>>84488469
did you watch the show?

>>84488542
You obviously didn't

>>84488542
Of course he didn't. I wish I was like him and didn't watched it. It was shit and my completist side made me watch it all after watching the pilot.

>>84488040
>Kids kill themself just to cancel second season of this shitshow
BASED

Haven't we had this thread like three times already?

Media does have an impact on young peoples minds.

It doesnt matter if something is anti-suicide since the mere attention generated by it fuels the need for validation these people want.

Netflix and the parents have to have some personal responsibility for allowing kids to watch this so easily.

>>84488683
This

>watch Paranoia agent
>episode about a group attempting suicide
>it's great comedy

>>84488683
>Media does have an impact on young peoples minds

Not that way, it doesn't. You're just an old (relatively speaking) fuck trying to put blame on something so the problem can be "fixed" easily. It can't. There's always been suicides in teenagers and there will always be the risk of it. All we can do is give them the tools and ressources they need.

>>84488683
>>84488742
samefag

>>84488763
>>84488782

You're fucking retarded if you don't think media has any impact on the way people perceive the world around.

>>84488763
>All we can do is give them the tools and ressources they need.

Tools and resources dont help. Its all about how culture.

Sex education and prevention is widely available in schools and to the public but the teen pregancy rate has still been rising. This is the product of an inconsistent culture which constantly promotes self fulfilment the the gratification of selfish desires.

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>>84488763
>There's always been suicides in teenagers and there will always be the risk of it

I wonder if any cultural changes happened around the time the suicide rate rose?

>>84488986
Heavy Metal and DnD. When they lost popularity, the numbers go down.

Jack Chick was right all along.

>tfw still no suicide booths as in futurama

>>84488040
kys

>>84488603

>my completist side

does that compel you to watch season 2?

>>84488986
1992 is exactly when the first episode of 13 reasons why aired! this cant be! somebody cover the teenagers eyes!

>>84489069
I'm more bummed that euthaniasia is still not legal in most countries. guess I'll have to hang myself when I get cancer.

>all these people wronged me in one way or another.
>I know. I'll kill myself. that will show them
i mean, it's not a bad idea

>>84488664
and we've becoem increasingly better at making them

>>84488040
Maybe if there were better parenting they'd still be alive.

>>84489116

The point is that the suicide rate isnt a constant and can be affected by cultural changes or other factors.

this is literally my first thought after this tv show came out, people literally #cutforbieber or whatever, and i just thought how many people would just straight up kill themselves after watching this shit.

It would have been a big moment if the ending was the beta kid denounced her for doing what she did to him and others.

But they had to add the rape shit like every show nowadays that wants to show a character is bad but doesn't have good writers, so the suicide seemed semi-justifiable. Would have been a lot better if all 13 reasons were petty shit that every teen goes through, and everyone learned to not blame themselves and realise the one constant problem was her.

>>84489129
yeah it's retarded as fuck. if an animal is sick beyond help we don't hesitate to relieve it from its suffering but humans are strapped to their beds and forced to endure it till the end.

>>84488040
she's hot why's she crying?

Suicide is natural selection.
Those who don't want to live are unworthy of life.
That was their decision, and nobody else is entitled to change it for them.

>>84488916
Teen pregnancy rates have plummeted since the 1980s, you utter fuckwad. As have abortion rates.

>>84489099
No.

>>84488226
It doesn't need to be pro.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide

>>84489434
So... does that mean that suice prevention in school is the cause of teen suicide?

I think it does.

>>84488040
>>84488040
>goes out of her way to walk miles during the night and willingly end up in a known rapists' jacuzzi, in the opposite side of town, in a party she wasn't even invited to
>traumatised when she gets raped

give me thesuicidescene

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>>84488040
giv hannah gf

>>84489808
you're cancer

>suicide
>everyone acts sad for like a month
>eventually forgotten


that's what happened with the 2 suicides at my school

>>84490136
when i killed myself people were grieving for months
no one ever really forgot

>>84488683
That's just what conservative parents do. They never want to acknowledge the fact that they're shitty parents, so they shift the blame onto something else. They did it with rap music, video games, and now they're doing it with this show.

>Parents who didn't even notice their kids were depressed until they killed themselves blame a tv show
wew

>>84490036
Fuck you.

>>84489026
But the peak is in 95, when no one was listening to metal and D&D was already getting less popular because of vidya.

>>84490276
Well then, no hannah gf for you until you've earned some good boy points young man

>>84490303
It takes time for the full effect of HM/D&D to make people kill themselves.

>>84490382
I didn't know you posted on here, Tipper

>>84488449
Any sort of media coverage of suicide increases the suicide rate, its a well documented phenomenon. They had to have known what would happen when they made a series about teen suicide. Here in Australia the media doesn't even mention when it's a suicide, you can only tell because articles about a suicide will include a note like
>If you are experiencing a crisis contact Lifeline on 13 11 14

>>84490409
Meh, here they say it and we have a very low suicide rate.

>>84488076
Why are you so offended by what other people do with their own bodies?

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>>84490172
I'm sorry Sawyer but you didn't even get a sticky. Stop haunting this place please.

>>84490474
Being offended about a dying collective is an unnecessary loss of energy.
Just like faggots and trans freaks are not allowed to hold pride marches in Muslim neighborhoods in Sweden,
the same will soon spread to the rest of Western Europe, and then to USA as well.
The difference between fertility rates makes it mathematically inevitable.

Hmm. Prolefeed like this maybe should be regulated for the good of the people. But if a real piece of art glamorises suicide ""irresponsibly"" FUCK OFF

>>84488040
i hope not, i liked season 1 a lot

>>84489173
is /lgbt/ full of closet cases? never really been there

>>84488040
Isn't seeing people kill themselves for stupid reasons a great suicide deterrent?

Just browsing for 5 minutes on a suicide/depression forum about people crying about losing their wallet is enough to make you not want to be lumped in with those people.

Similar situation for this show. Unrealistically stupid girl keeps fucking chads that she knows hates her, and then jumps into the pool with King of Kings Chad McChaddock.

>>84488040
While I really liked 13RW, I don't think it should have gotten a second season

>>84492650
yeah i kinda wish there as just another episode to wrap it up

>>84492253

>not Chad Chadot

Next time friend.

>>84492663
That's literally all it would have needed, not another season. Adding a second season also defeats the point in the first place.

As an Ex high school jock bully. I will say this to all you dumb cunts and faggots. If you kill yourself and give a box of tapes to get back at them. They will not give a shit, they will all listen to them together and laugh at how retarded you are. The news of you killing yourself is an award to a bully, and the bully will brag about making you kill yourself for years. This show 100% glorifies teen suicide!

>>84490136

>what is a person's reaction to every death ever that is not a direct family member

>>84488040
What are the 13 reasons?

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>>84493497
i cant tell you
you just have to listen to the tapes

>>84493582
I'm looking at the summaries of them now. They're kind of lame.

>>84492785
The tapes had dirt on people that's why they didn't want to share them.

>>84493604
Some are, others are pretty harsh. Then they add up and she just fucking lost it

>>84493913
One of them isn't even a reason. It's just oh Clay is a nice guy but whatever.

>>84488040
Wait are they saying that the show is so shit it caused their children to kill themselves??? Bit harsh

>>84488763
No shit one fucking show is not the source of the problem you fucking mong.
However a popular show that presents suicide as a means of getting revenge can absolutely influence some impressionable teens.

>>84488040
So the parents knew their kids were depressed and having a really bad time, but instead of actually helping them or getting them therapy, they just ignored it.

But clearly it's the tv show's fault.

why do people keep killing themselves in horrible painful ways that may just disfigure or cripple them, making things even worse? there are easily available way to do it which are painless and are extremely unlikely to have any consequences to your body or brain if you fail. like, can't people do 1 fucking thing right? or is that why they want to die, because they can't do anything right. i don't understand. i for sure have a good plan if i ever need to off myself because of terminal disease or something

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>>84488449

>>84495710
That's mostly women and faggots. They aren't serious about offing themselves, they just want attention, hence self-harm scars

>>84493948
Hannah would not have killed herself if Clay raped her.

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>>84488040
Why is she so perfect lads?

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Oh ya I forgot, teens never killed themselves before this show came out

>watching a show that's so bad it makes you literally kill yourself

>>84496599
idk man
i found her even hotter with short hair

been thinking about kms, if I do it should I implicate this show in my note to get the second season cancelled or no?

>>84498701
no i want a second season
also dont do it anon talk to someone

>>84488488
>>fiction that portrays suicide as a good idea

t. i have never watched the show the post

>>84488040
>be bad at parenting and understanding your kids
>blame television and entertainment when something goes wrong
Same shit as usual. People have been blaming television for making people violent for years

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>>84488449
>tfw you were a teen growing up in the 80s when dungeons and dragons and heavy metal music were thought to be linked to satanic ritual abuse
>the 80s were almost 40 years ago

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>>84488040
If anything I thought this movie really opened the eyes of a lot of people about the dangers of date rape. How bad the outcome can be and how damaging it is to those involved.

Literally this movie revolved around Rape, she was doing fine until bigshot rich boy forced himself on her then everything and everyone got fucked over after that.

>>84488986
Is this implying that Kurt Cobain inspired suicides too?

Short hair hannah > Nice black girl > Clay's Mum > coked up looking black girl > Hannah's friend at the start of the season >>>>> Tattoo and piercings voodoo girl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannah's mum

about to start this shit. what am i in for?

To be fair, this show did really affect me. Not a clue why, I never get emotional over fictional shows. However, after finishing this, I found myself constantly thinking of it and getting really feelsy because of it.
>inb4 pussy
>inb4 faggot

>>84500563
I'm actually on-and-off suicidal and the show didn't really affect me at all. Both of our reactions are pretty normal, that's why the show shouldn't be blamed for any suicides IMO.

>>84500623
I agree. I have had a history with the same sort of stuff (self-harm/depression/suicidal thoughts) and I wasn't affected by those parts of it.
I think it's just the fact it was presented so raw and in a take no prisoners sort of way. I don't think it glorifies suicide in any shape or form, quite the opposite. So I don't feel like this show should be blamed for the suicides of two people; if it wasn't this show, it'd be another show, book or something that caused it.

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>>84500563
Exactly the same here. It took me weeks after the final episode to get "over it", so to speak. I guess why it affected me was because I unironically relate to Clay, or that I'm sad that I missed out on all of the "normal" teen life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtlgYxa6BMU

>>84488105
>I don't want any recognition when these little fuckers are good at math
>I don't want any blame when they put on trenchcoats and celebrate Hitler's birthday
>you weak bag of vomit parents, stop blaming entertainers for your failures as parents
Jim Norton said it better, I'm paraphrasing at best

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>>84501070
No way am I listening to that song again, that song is forever ruined for me.
I'm currently trying to stop myself from watching all of it a second time. Fuck this show

>>84490474
Because it's contagious. Stupidity inspires stupidity.

I feel like literally every article posted i read on /tv is a click-bait article.

If my kid would an hero, I'd blame no one but myself, for it was my job to forge him and provide him a way into this world.

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I don't exactly believe in "bad" people, but Hannah was way worse than Bryce. And I'm not saying that to be edgy.

>>84502492
edgelord

>>84493582
What an absolute faggot. Just fucking tell me you spic fag

>>84495710
What's your plan?

just watched the first episode. it wasn't that bad honestly. and i guess clay was on her shitlist because of what happened on lunch that time? kind of a bullshit reason to me.

>in retrospect, this is what they watched
>this show must be why they did it!
It's a fucking crying shame that anyone should kill themselves. But to have their families blame it on a piece of entertainment is so fucked up.
Not everybody kills themselves because of a show they watched recently. Not everybody kills themselves because of movies, music, video games, TV shows, radio programmes or podcasts.
People kill themselves because they can't live any more. It could be valuable to look into that, instead of blaming others.

Parents are the worst sometimes. Just the worst fucking people who will point the finger at just about anyone else before they take responsibility for their own children.

>>84495710
continue

>>84504340
kek this. people don't kill themselves because they saw a show about suicide, they kill themselves because their lives are shit

>>84504068
>>84504506
opiate overdose. feel amazing, fall asleep, don't wake up. if it doesn't work you just wake up groggy and still pretty high. can try again if you want, or not, no consequences really. only way you could get fucked up is if someone finds you and revives you after you were already oxygen starved for a while which might give you brain damage, so just have to make sure no one is gonna find you for a few hours.

>>84504573
and where would someone find opiate ?
i think CO poisoning is your best bet

>>84504831
doctor or drug dealer, take your pick. if you have a few days or weeks to plan it isn't hard to get an OD of opiates. and in what way is CO poisoning better? opiate overdose has the benefit of an instant choice(like you don't have to sit there with a mask on for several minutes or a bag over your head or some shit like that, and chicken out halfway through, try again, and again) like a gun has, once the opiates are in your veins or stomach it's a done deal(well you could throw up if you do it early enough, prolly why IV is better) but you don't run the risk of blowing half your head off and the doctors saving you to be a freak braindead abomination.

I have died of an opiate OD and got brought back, pretty comfy dude. For the record before anyone calls me edgy or an asshole i'm not saying anyone should kill themselves, but if you are going to do it anyway at least do it in a way that isn't painful or might fuck your shit up worse then before and you live.

>>84505100
well for starter it might be easy for you to get them but not for the rest of us
same goes for a helium tank i guess so i'd say they are equal in being the top ways to end it

>>84505100
Are you seriously giving advice on how to kill yourself to someone?

>>84505814
I agree its more of a /b/ thing to do

>>84505814
shush I'm taking notes.

>>84505930
I was thinking the same, this is my first time on this board and I was hoping it wasn't the same as /b/.

>>84505814
i was asking for a friend

>>84505977
I bet

Is this show the new Danny Phantom?

>>84489173
>implying Bryce isn't /ourguy/

>>84498701
Just do the same tapes thing that Hannah did, people will make the connection.

>>84500425
A pretty entertaining show that's generally well-presented but isn't realistic at all.

>>84502492
Bryce is pretty much a cartoon villain, it's hard to get worse. Hannah was a dumb bimbo though. I feel like she's how most teenage girls view themselves (barring the whole witnessing and experiencing rape part), witty and beautiful but also outcasts that are hated by everyone. They also have their "Clay" that they wish would swoop them off their feet, get angry when he doesn't make a move, then get angry again when he finally does.

>>84506881
To be fair, she did kind of witness a rape, get raped, have semi-revealing photos of her spread around, lose all of her friends and get used by multiple guys because they thought she was a whore.
But I guess it's not that much, right guise?

>>84507146
I can understand from a cause and effect perspective why she sudoku'd, but not from a personal perspective. I would pretty much have to be in constant physical pain to consider suicide, otherwise I'm going to cling to life no matter what. And I say this as someone who's clinically depressed. There ain't nothing after this, giving it up prematurely is a waste. Fearing death is a very wonderful and healthy thing.

But the reason I say she's a dumb bimbo is because she's so passive, she had so many opportunities to fix her own life or to talk to someone. She literally could have just told Mr. Porter "I was raped" and that would have solved it, instead she danced around the topic and blamed him for not immediately understanding it. Hindsight is 20/20, everyone makes shit life choices, but sending out all those tapes was just spiteful, the only one that deserved to get called out was Bryce.

>>84490136
>eventually forgotten
As it should be. Do you think its good for kids to dwell on that kind of shit?

is it even biologically possible to be raped by a man you find sexually attractive?

>>84509103
totes

>>84490409
Here in the Netherlands they also never mention suicide

>>84492189
The jews really did a number on you. Good goy.

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>>84488040
Just get Dee Snider to make the arguments