I'm confused. Did he save billions or kill billions?
>>84474898
I kind of think it was beyond his control. He just tried to do his job the way I remember it.
>>84474898
original series: turned everyone into tang, if they want to retake their physical form then that option is always open to them....but they will live in a strange hellscape
rebuild: accidentally killed millions, not sure if billions
>>84474898
Neither, the billions existed in a superposition of being both alive and dead at the same time until you, the observer, looked at (measured) the outcome.
You murdering bastard. How could you!
>>84474920
The final decision came on him twice though.
>Everyone should die
>This feels weird. Rei turn it off.
He saved people from the real world of sorrow and loneliness to live in their own fantasies, but then changed his mind. If people recognized their forms and wanted to go back to living as individuals in the real world again they were then free to do so.
>>84474898
what show?
>>84476063
pokemon
>>84474976
i think millions/billions were stilled 'tang'd' in rebuild but some people weren't
>>84474898
A matter of perspective. To me he didn't save anyone, being tanged is much better than being a flesh puppet.
reifags: autists
asukafags: normies
misatofags: patricians
>>84476063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bix44C1EzY
i watched like 4 episodes, but jesus christ shinji is such a pathetic whiny emo bitch
should i keep watching?
>>84476250
>Misato
>Patrician
>Used goods
>Patrician
>Daddy issues
>Patrician
>Sex can fix anything
>Patrician
>I'm sorry Shinji, fuck me Shinji it will make everything better
>Patrician
We all know who the real patrician choice is.
>>84476361
No, you're too old to enjoy Evangelion, since you no longer can self-insert as Shinji.
DUDE EVERYONE DIES LMAO
>>84476745
The entire series went completely over your head.
>>84476745
No, that's wrong
>>84476216
BURGERED.com
The guy hiding under the table when everyone got tang'd had the best reaction to the events that unfolded completely.
>>84474898
Congratulations, OP.
>>84476437
People forget how integral it is to the viewing experience to see it for the first time when they are actually going to high school.
You can't compare seeing it for the first time when you're that age, I'm glad I did.
what would you have done in this situation
>weeb mods delete the porn and racist threads, but leave this shit up
baka
>>84477210
Because it's a movie
>>84477210
What do you expect from the new /v/eddit janny? He's proven over and over in his short time as janitor that he's from /v/
>>84477253
at this point /tv/ is just as bad as /v/ maybe even worst since they probably don't have daily blacked threads
>>84477253
>janitor doesn't delete a thread that violates literally none of the global or board rules
Yeah what a faggot haha
>>84477307
>maybe even worst
It is now with this new guy. He is everything every board hates about /v/ and hes a fucking janitor
It's up to the people, really. If they wanna come back, ey badda boom. No dice? Fuggedaboutit
>>84477313
yes, I'm sure it's just coincidence that this weeb bait thread is still up after 2 hours: >>84472441
>>84476157
Nobody got tang'd in Rebuild, the botched Third Impact didn't get there. Still, it had catastrophic consequences on the planet, the mass destruction is pretty evident in the third movie.
>>84476361
>shinji is such a pathetic whiny emo bitch
He is, but he also has every right to be like that.
>>84476437
How about us Marifags?
>>84477116
Rape
>>84474976
I've only seen the series and the first movie End of Evangelion, can you explain to me what being tanged is?
>>84477487
guess i needed to watch more
all i wanted to do after 4 episodes was punch his face every time it showed up
>>84474898
Neither
He "killed" them I suppose but they can come back to life whenever they want
>>84476063
Do people still do this?
>>84477562
When the entire planet was liquified
why does misato kiss a 15 year old. wut a bitch
>>84477640
why are you complaining wouldn't you want misato to stick her tongue down your throat when you were 15
probably tastes like cigarettes and strawberries
>>84477628
I'll be honest the last couple of episodes and the movie went over my head
I even tried reading the manga to see if it helped but the manga has a totally different story
>>84477666
trying to tempt me satan?
>>84477580
Even in the first ep his reaction couldn't be more justified. He is called by his estranged dad after several years of living alone, only to find himself in the middle of a battleze with a giant alien monster. Once he gets to where his dad is, he doesn't even say "hi", just coldly order to jump into that robot without any explanations or training, and go punch that alien or i'll send that badly wounded gir over there. And when he does jump in the robot... well, nobody tells him shit, not even the fact that he will feel every harm on the robot as it was done on his own body. Shit's bonkers.
>>84474898
Is there even billions left on earth during End of Evangelion?
>>84477562
How the fuck do you not understand? Do you just not know what tang is? Jesus fuck
>>84477562
speedwatcher detected
>>84476910
This. 18 years since i first watched it in high school.
>>84476745
>>84477780
They never really make it clear how many people died during Second Impact (which happened before the events of NGE). I didn't even realize the world was supposed to be depopulated until reading about it later. I'm pretty sure the world population is under one billion.
>>84477879
What?
>>84477849
Why shinji and asuka were the last ones alive? No
Why the rest of the world went to liquid? No
Did his mom make him become god or something, making him rewrite shit?
>>84477562
>>84477678
Basically, humans lose their AT field which causes their bodies to lose coherence and turn into LCL, and their souls joins into one super-soul.
>>84477948
>Why shinji and asuka were the last ones alive?
Shinji rejects Instrumentality (A.K.A. getting tang'd) and so does Asuka shortly after, so they return to their physical existence. Anybody who wishes to do so will return, allegedly.
>Why the rest of the world went to liquid?
They all lost their AT fields.
>>84477923
IIRC the world's population was halved
>>84480037
Dude, really?
>>84477210
>Thinks a movie is not /tv/ related
>>84476745
>Main theme of the entire show and the purpose of the Human Instrumentality Project is about the rebirth of humanity and evolution
>DUDE EVERYONE DIES
end yourself
I hate how much I related to Shinji as a kid.
I watched Eva when I was ~14 originally
>>84481767
I watched it for the first time a month or two ago and I'm in my thirties now, but I immediately understood why 4chan likes this movie so much as soon as Shinji started talking and doing things.
>>84477542
Cancer
>>84477210
Anime threads are deleted randomly. The mods actually hate anime, so what they're doing is frustrating people as much as possible by letting threads stay up for a while before deleting them, but also not deleting them consistently so nobody is ever sure if anime is allowed and under what circumstances.
>>84476868
underrated comment
>>84481925
It's either vehemently hated or pathologically praised on here. There is no middle-ground and it's precisely because people on here relate in some way to Shinji.
>>84477769
>Go fight mind-numbingly terrifying skyscraper-sized hell-monsters in this equally terrifying skyscraper-sized robot! What's that? You're not confident in your ability to do that because you have no training and come to think of it, you don't even know how to drive a car yet? Well, mister, you need to stop WHINING. If you screw up, that's MILLIONS of innocents dead, and their blood is on YOUR hands! No pressure though, get in that robot!
Honestly, the fact that Shinji does anything at all makes him pretty amazing.
>>84481719
The planet is devastated and every person is dead except for two people. This is the bad ending.
Everyone dies. Horribly I might add. There's no point in choosing to be reborn just to starve to death in a wasteland.
>>84483191
Eva went over your head.
>>84483191
>Horribly
Albeit terrifying turning into tang looked painless and was instant
>>84477116
not have sperged out just because i got a boner
Why is 3.33 soshit?
>>84477487
>has every right to be like that
LOL at this emo
>>84476063
boku no pico
>>84477210
The End of Evangelion is the definition of kino.
>>84476437
>REEEE I CANT STAND WHEN WOMEN HAVE SEX WITH OTHER MEN THATS NOT MEE
This is you.
>>84483849
fan service instead of suspense or inner conflict
>>84477991
>>84478128
wow that really activated my AT field
why is evangelion predicated on metaphysical nonsense
>>84483849
It has some fucking AMAZING visuals - a few of which unfortunately ruined by garbage CGI, like the descent into Termina Dogma - but the writing was a mess.
I genuinely appreciate how ambitious and daring it was to go completely off the rails, but the execution wasn't up to the series' standards.
>>84477210
>He expects a weeboo forum to be unbias towards weeabo content
>>84484697
>why is a story about mankind sticking its dick in biblical-themed cosmic horror gods predicated on metaphysical nonsense
>>84484697
it's just to set up big returning to the womb visual metaphors
>>84483191
>Everyone dies. Horribly I might add.
Everyone got to see what they desired the most, for Maya it was being noticed by her senpai, for Fuyutsuki it was seeing Yui again, for Gohan it was Misato. Not sure what Aoba desired, he saw multiple Reis looking at him so he was probably that kind of guy?
>>84484938
o i c
i think all those teens shoulda fucked
>>84483849
It's the only decent rebuild movie so far, anon.
1 was a recap of the first 6 episodes.
2 was a hot mess trying to fit episodes 7-22, family drama and a new Eva pilot in a single two hours long movie.
3 was episode 23 retold in a different fashion.
>>84484999
i always saw it as not so much what they desired the most, but something or someone that they'd let down their (literal) emotional barriers for. and just kinda assumed he didn't have anyone like that and so got brute forced down.
>>84484999
>have your most sincere wish fulfilled
>live in comfy soup for eternity
>get to spook any ayyylmaos and/or future humans that visit when they realize what you are
Happy ending desu
>>84485124
>humankind becomes apathetic soup
>teenagers die as warriors, no fucking
shit ending desu
>>84485202
>no fucking
Shinji was LITERALLY inside his mom/god toward the end there. Their pelvises were fused together.
>>84485001
yea desu
>>84485249
did he nut?
also i thought he wanted to fuck rei. see he shoulda fucked rei and asuka should have had a threesome with misato and kenji
everyone fucks happily ever after.
>>84484999
I think he, as a level headed person, actually sees what is objectively happening. The others, having weaker minds, succumb to fantasies.
The Reis are, in a way, tempting for people to get tanged, but he doesn't want it to happen.
>>84482986
don't forget he jumped into an active volcano
>>84485287
He stopped wanting to fuck Rei after Ritsuko showed him that Rei is a fucked up clone thing.
>>84485287
>also i thought he wanted to fuck rei.
rei is some weird mix between lilith and sinji's mother dna.
wincest is win
>>84485287
shinji was after that boipussy dog
>>84485202
Any person can reform their body from the soup, same as Shinji and Asuka did.
He only wanted to save Ayanami. To hell what happened to him. To hell what happened with the world.
>>84484716
my opinion of it went way up after getting the chance to see it in a theater, the visuals really benefit from the format
>>84485825
I'm jealous anon
>>84478128
How will they survive though
Drinking LCL?
>tfw I'm just a mere brainlet /newfag/
>>84474976
Christ the third Rebuild is horrible
>>84485881
cave up some reisteaks from the lilith corpse
>>84485920
Anything eva except EoE is horrible
>Nobody gets mad if you make a Simpsons thread even though /co/ exists
>If you make a thread about The End of Evangelion people get butthurt and tell you to go back to /a/
>>84485971
The series and the first two Rebuild films are good.
>>84486032
Pleb opinion
>>84486073
Yeah its far more patrician to like the fucking third Rebuild movie that was entirely fanservice.
If you're a patrician, you appreciate the original series (including the ending), EoE, and the enhanced visuals of the first two films. And of course, the best episode is the synchronized dance episode.
>>84486032
Series = EoE > Rebuild 2 > Rebuild 1 > Rebuild 3
>>84486097
>enhanced visuals
>>84486132
Ehhhh, tough call. Rebuild 1 has the best angel updated in glorious fashion, while Rebuild 2 has a bunch of shitty angels, and more Mari, but better music.
>>84474898
Neither. Eva doesn't make any sense even when "understand" the entire plot. Even after you look at it as an allegory for overcoming depression and isolation, or any other approach of your choice.
Eva is a preposterous series and you'd do best to just stop thinking about it.
>>84486167
Micropenis detected, gtfo
>>84477210
>his nigger thread got deleted and now has to wait 10 minutes before another thread is up for his mudshark bullshit
>>84486167
If you don't understand evangelion you are literally dumber than people who think inception is hard to understand
>>84486210
I understand every bit of it and if you take a step back and look at it after you see what a ridiculous exercise the whole thing turns out to be, especially when all the sci-fi elements are revealed and you no longer have the mystery elements of the show to entertain you. At that point you look for a deeper message and what is there is merely a few shallow ideas about human connections, childhood, parenthood, and ambition. The only decent story is that of Yui.
>>84486313
You don't get it, then.
>>84486324
You don't get it, then.
You see how that works?
>>84486336
I understand the show, unlike a pleb who wrote:
>Eva doesn't make any sense even when "understand" the entire plot.
>>84486158
2.0's changes make it better than 1.0 imo. 1.0 pretty much sticks to the original series while generally being not as good, whereas 2.0 has more reason to exist by virtue of doing its own thing.
The surprise Third Impact initiation was particularly great, and the use of Tsubasa wo Kudasai is total kino once you get over it feeling like a retread of Komm Susser Tod.
>>84477460
Well 'millions'+ got turned into eva's (they litter the landscape. We can't be sure if that's equivalent to being tanged or a weirder limbo between living, dead and tang. You do hear screams when they are moved en-mass, but that could just be stylistic. 3.33 didn't explain shit.
>>84486372
Yeah, but Mari
>>84486372
maybe it would've had some poignancy if they didn't do it twice in like 20 minutes
>>84486360
If you have to resort to pointing out a minor word omission as an argument then you're done here.
>>84486404
Those Evas at the end of EoE are the 9 mass production ones that killed Asuka
>>84486409
I didn't hate Mari as much as everyone else. It's interesting to see an actually competent pilot who has some idea of what's happening, just as a foil to the original characters.
>>84486430
Yeah, I fucking hated that when I first watched it. I think that was my #1 grievance after finishing.
On repeat viewings I'm still bothered by it, but I've come to really appreciate both scenes and the way they use music. The way the Bardiel fight uses its song as part of the narrative is top tier.
>>84486498
He's talking about 3.33.
>>84486556
The music is great, but everything else is a goddamn mess. And now all the tension is gone because they had two attempted impacts already.
>>84486556
>Yeah, I fucking hated that when I first watched it. I think that was my #1 grievance after finishing.
Hey, remember when Misato went from yelling for Shinji to go along with triggering the third impact to blaming Shinji for triggering the third impact, to the point of refusing to tell him literally anything?
Remember when Asuka decided to yell at Shinji instead of explain things because Anno thought it was cute?
Remember when we were stuck with that stupid fucking TTGL-tier ship and crew?
Remember when the characters didn't age for some reason?
Remember when the narrative fell apart so badly in 3.33 that we had to have someone give an exposition dump to Shinji to move the plot along?
Remember when every single fight was a mess because of CGI?
Remember when 02 was a lion?
>>84476250
only normies like misato retard
>dude she be cool to chill with and have a byd with
>>84485920
evangelion is based in that stupid book, but only rebuild is totally based in the book.
>>84476250
Pic related, ritsukofags.
Just as you'd expect from the master, Mr Anno.
>>84486576
>And now all the tension is gone because they had two attempted impacts already.
The Third Impact revealed in 3.33 fucked everything up and left the world in an almost post-EoE state. We're through the looking glass.
>>84486629
Did Misato know he was going to trigger Third Impact? I seem to remember her having a PTSD episode once Shinji kicked things off.
Further, it makes sense for Misato to change that much over 14 years given how much the world and her position in it have changed. Dig back to your ye olde self when you were able to understand that Shinji was kind of an emo bitch, but he had a reason to be that way. Really put yourself in the shoes of Misato the person, and not your memory of Misato.
>characters not aging
Don't really care desu, and it was foreshadowed by Mari. Plus, metaphors.
>Remember when the narrative fell apart so badly in 3.33 that we had to have someone give an exposition dump to Shinji to move the plot along?
The narrator's unreliability makes this easier to accept as a storytelling decision. Plus, this is Eva. Long monologues/dialogues with limited animation are a part of the series' toolbox. EoE even had Rei/Lilith exposit at times about what was happening.
>02 was a lion
reeeeeee
hate the new Beast Wars transformations
>CGI
>bridge crew featuring Wacky Moe Pink Hair-chan
I've got nothing.
>Charlie Brown gif
Probably not since it's a 4chan filename, but did you by any chance watch Eva because someone on /vg/ told you to?
>>84486865
>Don't really care desu, and it was foreshadowed by Mari. Plus, metaphors.
More like "merchandising"
>>84486926
That's part of the metaphor, yes.
I haven't watched Eva in years, but wasn't the majority of the planet wiped out? I thought there were barely any people even left on the respective continents that even survived?
Are there even billions to save?
>>84486865
Disagree completely. Misato holding Shinji responsible for his actions in the second movie was essentially character assassination as far as I'm concerned. Her behavior was shitty and only served to create drama where there didn't have to be any. You're comparing teenage Shinji who understood nothing with a military leader who understood what was happening.
Also I watched EoE before /vg/ was a thing so I doubt it.
>>84487057
>Her behavior was shitty
Yes, it was, but that doesn't make it less reasonable or understandable. Put yourself in her shoes after seeing most of the world come to a horrifying end, learning that you were working for the people responsibile for Second Impact, and suddenly being thrust into the position of being the commander of humanity's last oasis. And Kaji, the love of her life, is presumably dead.
She was hardened and forced to internalize a lot of shame and hatred. Anyone in her situation would be a cunt.
>>84487034
After the second impact around 2.5 billion died.
>>84487155
Yes, it does make it less reasonable and less understanding. You should rewatch 3.33 and see how Misato treats Shinji.
There's a difference between someone hardening and someone being the victim of sloppy, lazy writing.
>>84487157
What the fuck. Why are there only a handful of Evas that are based in Japan of all places? In a post-impact world that still had billions of people, wouldn't the entire world economy basically be war-geared toward this extraterrestrial threat? Why don't we ever see more cool shit instead of (inset random 2 or 3 tanks firing up in the air like some crappy Godzilla movie).
I mean if we have the tech to create entire cities that can now hide underground and the weapons the Eva's use, why aren't we wiping the floor of these shitty prism-angels with fleets of rail gun hover jets and shit?
>>84487350
because the sci-fi setting is just aesthetic window dressing and loving pastiche of series like godzilla and ultraman
He saw the potential for a human future without the human condition (lonliness/isolation). He chose to retain the human condition and pursue the resolution of the human condition(love) in the old fashioned way, rather than lose what makes him human in the first place.
Beautiful series.
>>84487203
This, Anno hates the fans harder than anyone else on Earth. The whole point of 3.0 was to finally take his horrible vengeance. Simply killing the characters was never going to work, he had to comprehensively ruin them.
You don't break a man in the desert by depriving him of water, rather you give him a bottle of brine.
>>84487426
>a human future without the human condition (lonliness/isolation)
Like the Christian Heaven?
>>>/trash/
>>84486688
what the fuck are you talking about
>>84487350
NERV originated in America, if I remember right. That one episode where the prototype Eva goes haywire and explodes happened in the American NERV. There's a NERV branch for every surviving country, Asuka transfers in from the German one.
>>84487584
Yes. Part of the point is that humans won't just accept heaven if it is simply offered to them. Misato shows Shinji the potential for true meaning from life, and he chooses to pursue that himself rather than remove it from the equation because he can. It's a romantic idea.
>>84476250
>tfw Misatofag
>>84474898
Congratulations!
>>84487350
There was some rule where each country could only have 2 active evas, which is why they disabled Asuka's eva when they got the one that was an angel
>>84488054
Yeah, it's called the "Vatican Treaty". Pope Francis did his best.
>>84487632
>The sight of the female body greatly upsets me
>everyone knows from the start that Misato will eventually attempt to make Shinji her pusy slave
How does a degenerate like her hold any position of authority in something like NERV?
>>84488474
She hides it from everybody except Kaji and Shinji... and Pen Pen (and to a lesser extent, Ritsuko)
In the instrumentality sequences about her, she literally says out loud that she's tired of pretending to be well-behaved and proper, and wants to be a dirty little slag
>>84488380
>I like to watch prepubescent anime girls' titties
>>84488749
>prepubescent
are you a virgin?
>>84488749
>prepubescent
>titties
>>84488474
shinji was born to be a pusy slave tbqh
None of you ITT understood this anime lol
>>84488931
Animes are for retards, there's nothing to understand.
in which fukcing order i am supposed to watch this shit ?
>>84489309
In the order it was released
>>84477116
Worshiped those feet.
>Just bee urself
Jesus fucking christ, why do you people like this shit again?
Why is that through the series and the movies, nobody seems to notice that the kids are emotional wrecks with massive psychological problems?
This actually makes me think Misato was just pretending to care about them, because there is no reason for her not to notice and bring them to a therapist to get some help.
>>84489977
I don't think they had a choice, they needed the kids to even have a chance at not being destroyed by the angels
>>84489977
a combination of narrative convenience (since the sci-fi paramilitary aspect is there to facilitate the emotional and character aspects) and japanese culture heavily looking down on mental illness & therapy in general. bottle that shit up and don't make waves, ect
>>84489977
Misato didn't do anything because he wanted Shinji to be her pusy slave.
Gendo didn't do anything because he wanted Rei as his pee-pee mistress
Asuka is terrible, no one gives a shit about her.
>>84489504
not be urself
like urself
>>84489977
because the adults are just as broken
>>84476908
>The guy hiding under the table when everyone got tang'd had the best reaction to the events that unfolded completely.
I've always been curious, everybody apparently sees what they desire the most just before getting tang'd, so why did he see a shitload of naked Reis? was he a closet pedo all the time?
>>84474898
>>84490560
>I've always been curious, everybody apparently sees what they desire the most just before getting tang'd, so why did he see a shitload of naked Reis?
I'm pretty sure it was because he didn't love/desire anyone, so Rei was the "default" option so to speak
humanity evolving into one big consciousness is always trash. Its a lazy and unimaginative "good" end and it's always a "solution to humanitys suffering" which is bullshit.
What the fuck was his problem?
>>84492987
poor writing
>>84493332
Gendo is one of the best characters in eva you pleb
>>84487632
Will Space runaway Ideon ever come out on bluray/dvd for the US?
I want to see it
>>84491808
Didn't Shinji acknowledge that it was bullshit?
>Everyone gets turned into tang
>Rei "saves" those who died recently (Misato and Ritsuko), even repairing those who were damaged (Asuka)
>Everyone experiences reality
>Shinji realises that its not the same as real life, and even though real life can be difficult, it is worth living.
>Shinji rejects Instrumentality, gets sent back to devastated Earth, Asuka also rejects instrumentality
>Shinji chokes Asuka to see if he is in the real world, in which she caresses his cheek to show him she is real.
>"How Disgusting" - a jab at Shinji as she is stuck in a world with just him
>>84493989
>willing to live in the real world despite having gone to utter shit
Why do fictional people do this retarded shit? The one guy who betrayed the crew in the Matrix was the only sensible one
>>84485287
He clearly wanted to fuck Kaworu more than anything
>Gendo wants to reunite with his waifu
>to do so, he royally fuck ups his only son, and destroys the world
OK, let's say Instrumentality went his way and he reunited with Yui. Wouldn't she logically be pissed off to no end?
>>84476437
I'm 21 and I self insert as him.
>>84491540
Yup. That's why he's screaming in pain, rather than being relaxed.
>>84491808
That's the FUCKING POINT.
>>84494784
I certainly like to think so. It often seems to me the characters in Evangelion all get what they want but in a fucked-up and counterproductive form they couldn't have guessed at.
Why is this show so praised? It is literally plebbit tier deep
>>84491808
>humanity evolving into one big consciousness is always trash
Are you aware that the main character ultimately agrees with your point?
>>84493989
>Shinji chokes Asuka to see if he is in the real world, in which she caresses his cheek to show him she is real.
I thought he choked her because he was still angry over the shit she said to him during pre-Instrumentality.
>>84491808
I-It's a bad thing.
It's treated as such.
>>84494940
>>84493989
>I only watched EoE dubbed
It's a lot more cynical than you're making it out to be.
>>84494984
It's sort of like that, but it's not just that. It's a compendium of things that make up Shinji and who he is that she's disgusted by - most of all, his inability to make any kind of meaningful or long lasting decision. She confronts him with kindness and he backs down immediately.
>>84474898
Shinji achieved the best possible outcome for humanity. Everyone gets to choose whether they live as part of a collective entity or as individuals, whatever makes them happier.
>>84495746
No they don't, the tang is breaking down.
>>84474898
He didn't save anyone but he might not have killed anyone either. Instrumentality was interrupted before it was completed.
What happens to person with no friends, no loving family and no one who ever cared about them, during instrumentality? Do they just stay forever alone as tang?
>>84474898omedettou
>>84496076
No, they're forced to interact with the rest of humanity and share their experience
What if Shinji was egoist?
>>84495746
Nope he fucked humanity.
No one can realisitcally want to be by his own on a ruined earth.
the self is the thing defined by the presence of another, when there is no other people one may as well not exist.
>>84496073
>he might not have killed anyone
He definitely didn't kill anyone. Tanged people are not actually dead, you know?
>>84496118arigato
>>84485058
2.22 is pure fanservice and I love it.
You cannot but feel great with Shinji going balls to the wall against Zeruel
>>84496076
They leave.
Shinji didn't just choose to leave Instrumentality to "save" humanity or "because its bullshit". He couldn't come to terms with himself, he couldn't chill - and when he was gone it was Asuka's term to address herself, and she couldn't do it either, so she left too.
You may not like Instrumentality as a narrative device or an idea (I think it's fucking scary), but the only people who would leave it are people who couldn't hang.
Alternatively, you could always assume Asuka was just the first of manner to slide out of the ocean because Instrumentality is breaking down (and it is breaking down, it was interrupted) but it's more than likely that after she was no longer used to confront Shinji, she and her own issues were addressed and she could find no closure anywhere either.
>>84495152
>I only watched EoE dubbed
How does the dub alter the tone?
Were Shinji and Asuka the only persons left on Earth by the end of the movie?
>>84496188
>No one can realisitcally want to be by his own on a ruined earth
Yeah, because a lot of people would realistically want to live as fucking tang, right?
>>84496289
This is true.
>>84496377
Yes.
>>84496377
At that moment, probably, but more people could join them given time.
Reminder that Shinji was a commie
>>84489977
For a world that is just rebuilding from a planet wide cataclysm and several wars everyone looks pretty chill.
>>84496314
The things Shinji says have a different context in the English Dub. He comes off as a victim, a lot less of a bad person. He comes off as kind of pathetic, and confused. It's not just him, either. Asuka comes off as a lot more abusive and hostile. Or at least, in a way that comes off as unjustified.
In the Japanese dub, Shinji's voice work, particularly during his breakdown, emphasizes that Shinji isn't just angry or frightened, he's being spiteful. He's saying these things with the intent of causing hurt. You can hear it.
Shinji is not a kind person or a nice guy. He is not the savior of humanity. He left Instrumentality because he could not come to terms with his faults and weaknesses. He wasn't even willing to try.
At one point, he calls out the three main girls for being frustratingly ambiguous, and they retort basically saying that things are ambiguous about them because they have their own issues to deal with too. Shinji complains that this makes his life hard.
>>84483849
For a series that is pretty depressing to start, 3.33 was INCREDIBLY depressing. NERV was just a ghost facility with like 4 people. An integral part of the show(at least for me) was how awesome NERV was. A bustling sub city filled with people trying to save the world and futuristic high tech shit.
Why would anyone like to be orange juice?
Can someone explain everything that happened after kowaru turned out to be an angel?
Who was that weird white guy stuck on the cross? Why were they trying to stop kowaru from reaching him? What exactly was the second impact? What were the evas, exactly? Was Rei an angel too?
>>84496161
>Instrumentality is being forced to a party by unlimited chads 24/7 telling you to be yourself while staceys giggle with/at you
I would scream in panic if the Reis came for me too.
>>84487350
>Why are only a handful of Evas based in Japan?
Because it's the Japanese who did everything key to inventing Evas. America and Germany also made Evas; Asuka herself is from Germany.
>wouldn't the entire world economy basically be war-geared toward this extraterrestrial threat?
No. First off, it isn't extraterrestrial. Second, the Angels are classified and are basically invincible to standard weaponry. Third, the first angel that appears in the show is the first angel humanity fights, they have no data and experience to deal with them and it's only because of the Dead Sea Scrolls that NERV has Evas ready.
>Why don't we ever see more cool shit?
Evas aren't cool?
>cities that hide underground
Technically we didn't build that.
>the weapons that Evas use
their power is enhanced by the pilot's AT field.
tl:dr watch the show
>>84496377
Because that's the last scene in the movie. Shinji and Asuka broke the glass wall allowing people to leave the tang.
>>84496289
>You cannot but feel great with Shinji going balls to the wall against Zeruel
You know, Shinji outright says that he doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world, as long as he can be with Rei.
Like father, like son, I guess.
>>84496906
Exactly. It's pottery. But who wouldn't burn the world to save his waifu?
>>84496810
>America and Germany also made Evas
I think what that anon is trying to say is, if they are aware the Angels' goal is to attack the Geofront... what's the point of having Evas elsewhere but where they are needed?
>>84496810
>First off, it isn't extraterrestrial
Technically, they are. But humanity also are aliens to this world.
Of course, that is if you want to treat the info from that obscure jap-only game as canon.
>cities that hide underground
>Technically we didn't build that.
The hell are you talking about?
>>84497043
The Evas are deadly superweapons. It's not okay for one nation to have a bunch of them while other nations have no means of reprisal.
So at the end of the movie they were the only people so fucked up and self hating they refused the bliss of a blended consciousness. Shinji choking her was his expression of having to spend the rest of his short life with this chick who hated his guts for being a weak faggot.
>>84497264
Perhaps he can only get hard by choking a bitch.
>>84497344
it should have ended with him raping her, and her staring up at him with cold hateful eyes. That would elevate EOE to the eternal goat. I promise you this was considered but probably dropped in production
>>84476250
>ignoring the waifufaggotry
Elder god tier
>>84485916
holy shit some of those make sense
>>84497125
geo front formed because the black moon /litlith is there
>>84474898
Killed billions, since I can't stop jerking it to him and his cute plump ass
>>84497264
Basically this.
Is there any special meaning with these lines? Sometimes they take different shapes when Shinji thinks to himself
>>84497043
the other evas aren't just idling on standby, theyre transfered to the geofront once they're operational (except the mp series but that's deliberate)
The fact that you are all talking about technicalities and exposition shows that you didn't get anything from it. It was never about the fights or the sci fi
>>84493989
the "How disgusting" is because when Shinji and Asuka were one during instrumentality, she saw what Shinji did at the hospital
Think about it
>>84493989
I must also add, Shinji choked Asuka because he saw her "true" feelings for Shinji, which was mostly hate. Asuka also saw Shinji's feeling towards her, and she when she realized how hateful she was towards someone that loved her, she repents and thats why she caresses Shinji
Gents, I think we are missing the real issue here.
Is Asuka still virgin during 3.0?
Mari is not an factor, as she is a huge whore and probably was already sucking cocks when she was 14.
>>84501406
She's 28 in a 14 year-old body. Of course not
She's probably had dicks in her vacant eye-socket
>>84501733
You are disgusting
>>84501406
they probably tribbed out at least a couple times
>>84486158
>fixed
>>84489504
>there are people in this world that still don't realize shinji was congratulating himself in his own mind and the series' ending signified the hell of seeking personal satisfaction opposed to a better world for everyone
How? It's like the most offputting, blatantly cheery, satirical ending for a series which had a 14 year old mindraped by an alien 2 episodes earlier. I don't understand how people don't see the Congratulations sequence as horrifically depressing and terrifying in its implications.
>>84477403
well where else are people going to discuss anime?
>>84496178
He'd just call everyone in the tang his property while they ignore him.
>>84486032
Based Saigado.
So I missed the boat on Evangelion. However I've seen clips of the several series on youtube.
Which ones should I watch if I want a kino experience?
>>84508696
>Original series>EoE>the mango>fucking Anima when it's finally translated
Rebuild is totally optional unless Shin presents it asa continuation of the original canon.
>>84497549
This tbqh
>>84510302
Where is Mari?
>>84510968
>>84474898
Congratulations!
>>84484999
In the dvd commentary they say he had no significant other to desire so he just saw Rei's as Angels of death/release, that's pretty scary