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...lol?
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>>84460090
I remember when they redesigned the ride to look like the movies and include Jack Sparrow and shit. The ride was great before that shit but of course they had to redesign it for the shekels and appeal to the kids. Yeah I'm bitching about a kid's ride in an amusement park appealing to kids, get at me.
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How soon until history books are re-written to be politically correct?
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>>84460090
I don't see what's wrong with that. I mean it's an amusement park not a goddamn museum exhibit, it needs to be watered down to lowest common denominator
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>>84460176
Give it a few decades.
And then jews will use the books they changed and charge you premium for the original versions.
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>>84460176
>The Holocaust

It's already happened.
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>>84460176
They're constantly being rewritten, it's just gradual so you don't notice it

My favorite example that nearly all Americans have never heard of is that one of the biggest reasons we rejected england was their courts becoming tyrannical, and judges having too much power

Hmm
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>>84460090
They should also change the President's hall or whatever the fuck they call it to include an animatronic Hillary Clinton, because she was the only female presidential candidate. We wouldn't want any little girls to be getting discouraged would we?
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>>84460176
They're doing it now.
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>pirates, the lowest form of organized scum, sold women
>that's problematic
Good forbid parents have to teach their little turds morality
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>>84460317
Parents are too lazy to teach their children the nuances of morality.
>Pirates are cool
>Therefore everything they do must be cool
This is how kids think, or how adults believe kids think. So adults sanitize so children don't think the "wrong" things are cool.
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But they're pirates
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>>84460226
Edgy
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>>84460090
oh no a private corporation made a decision in the interest of making more money, i am so outraged right now
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Soon, history books will read that there were black knights and nobility in Medieval Europe.
Or rather, people will think that it was so because someone in a movie shoehorned them and movies are apparently as valid as history books now.
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>>84460176
>>84460205
>>84460226
>>84460282
>>84460312
they teach in american high schools that the US won the Vietnam war. KEK
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>>84460090

I remember reading a while ago that Disney took surveys of park guests and there was hardly any complaints of that auction scene. However, the only complaints of that auction scene was the portrayal of the fat woman who was less desirable than the hot red headed pirate.

This move was a preventive move by Disney which is a bit silly considering the ride features: torture of the mayor, shots getting fired at his wife for trying to defend him, pirates in jail cell getting locked before being burned alive, public in intoxication, and burning/looting of a town.

At this point, I wouldn't surprised if they removed all suicidal elements from the Haunted Mansion.
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>>84460176
already happened. They basically never talked about any war or fighting in history classes last time I was in college. Liberals now just use history as an excuse to call everything racist
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>>84460395
Nobody actually cares about the ride faggot, it's the fact that we're in a culture where it's even seen as profitable or good to do so
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>>84460090
I've been on that ride like 15 times and I dont even remember that part
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LITERALLY THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO SHOW HOW BAD THE PIRATES ARE

THEY FUCKING BURN DOWN THE TOWN

Fuck Disney
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>>84460439
No they don't

Most schools don't even get to vietnam

Even if they do, the teachers are leftists and love shitting on the country
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>>84460344
this. They'll probably add female and gay pirates to the ride instead now. Pirates were LGBT heroes who fought for equal rights
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>>84460429
>Soon, history books will read that there were black knights and nobility in Medieval Europe
>implying there weren't
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/08/04/8-european-kings-queens-noblemen-considered-black-one-drop-rule/
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It's so fucking weird how now villains aren't even allowed to be evil

Like with star wars
>empire kills millions
>they blow up a fucking planet just to prove a point
>but they can't be racist!
wat
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>>84460395
>weak attempt at defending censorship

kys yourself
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>>84460483
how do you not remember the hot redhead?
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>>84460317
but TV is responsible for parenting nowadays
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>>84460502
female pirates and gay pirates existed nigga. pirates were equal opportunity criminals
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Clarification: This is only at Disneyland, not Disney World.
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>>84460488

Disney already shat on that one by empathizing the shoehorned Jack Sparrow. It lessens the effect at the start of the ride where everyone is a skeleton despite their material wealth which is key to the cautionary tale of the ride.
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>>84460090
Why have the pirates at all? They are bad and should be removed.
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>>84460511
I said Medieval Europe, half of those results not fitting into it.
Also the two most distinctly putting themselves into the late stage of that timeline are grasping for straws without any valid sources.
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>>84460511
WE
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>>84460090
LMAO
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>>84460543
lol, thats the actual definition of pirate: stealing shit
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>>84460383
Right? How dare he mock the 60 gorillion, it's like annudah shoah
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>>84460543
>a good pirate never takes another person's property
>just like a good policeman doesn't stop criminals but helps them do their jobs
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>>84460559

Clarification: you're fake news

>The Walt Disney Company plans to make changes to the auction scene in the attraction at Disneyland, Walt Disney World and Disneyland Paris in the coming year, according to Suzi Brown, spokeswoman for the Disneyland Resort.

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/29/auction-scene-in-disneylands-pirates-of-the-caribbean-to-no-longer-auction-brides/
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>>84460090
Disney Yes!
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>>84460090
soon the haunted house wont have dead people getting hanged and executed either
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>>84460090
It's a ride, not a history book
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Drawn together made a whole episode to this more than ten years ago, ffs
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How come Disney never talks about the rampant sexual harassment (by women) to their male characters like Tarzan and Jack Sparrow?
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>>84460090
This isnt news for the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. Awhile back they changed the pirates chasing after women to the women chasing after the pirates with frying pans and then they changed everything to accommodate Johnny Depp in every scene. The rides been beyond fucked awhile now.
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>>84460630
I was only going by every other story I've seen that only mention Disneyland Paris and Anaheim.
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>>84460439
They never say that the U.S. won the war, they just briefly discuss some details about the war and about the U.S. eventually backing out (Losing).
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>>84460656
How does that affect women?
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>>84460676
>to accommodate Johnny Depp in every scene.

That's an exaggeration.
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>>84460543
>a good assassin never kills his targets
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>>84460176
In high school we were told that everyone loved the fags until the 1980's.
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>>84460502
fempirates were canon though.
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>>84460226
>What about the Nazi attack on the Jews?
What about it?
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>>84460725
anything violent or vaguely offensive will get washed away, thats the point
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>>84460176
My last history book completely skipped over Manzanar
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>>84460317
>>pirates, the lowest form of organized scum
except in the UK and other countries they are national heroes
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>>84460725
It's about placating triggered babies.
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Good thing that all pirates we're politically correct
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Sequel >>84460502
rights
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Well I'm glad I got to do the ride back before it got fucked.
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>>84460395
>oh no a private corporation made a decision in the interest of making more money, i am so outraged right now

I agree, it was part of their economy, censuring this is literally stealing jobs from slave traders.
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>>84460090
Will Walt's true vision, Disney World, continue to have the correct version of pirates?
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>>84460176
That happens already. Most teachers are lefties and the curriculum pushes a marxist narrative.

As a Canadian, my history classes were 90% about white guilt and aboriginals.
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>>84460759
they were rare
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>>84460729
As annual passholding prick No its not
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I love hover pirates were more rapey against Elizabeth in the first movie. Probably only reason she is not raped was they were undead
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>>84460779
privateers were not pirates
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>>84460439
Lol no American textbook will flat out say "in the end. The US lost the war", they just say we pulled out
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>>84460626
>just like a good policeman doesn't stop criminals but helps them do their jobs
works for england
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>>84460891
That's the point of trying to keep her alive when they tried to bleed her at the cove.
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>>84460890
Horseshit. Sparrow is in the background in a couple spots and then only prominently displayed at the end. I also go every year.
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>>84460610
shut up dumbass
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>>84460176
Been happening forever, m8.
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>>84460865
The chinese one was pretty successful, and she started out as a concubine.
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>>84460890
>As annual passholding prick
Yes, good goy. Pay us all your hard earned shekels.
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>>84460856

Here's your answer.

>>84460630

So the Disney park that Walt never visited will be losing that ride as well.
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>>84460090
It doesn't matter.

None of this matters.
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>>84460913
>they just say we pulled out
Wtf? Seriously, not memeing anymore, that isn't how it happened? That's how I was taught it happened at school.
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>>84460439
Do you want a redpill? The US never truly lost a war yet. Vietnam is no longer communist and Iraq is now a democratic state with a viable army.

The US eventually got what it wanted therefore it won in the end.
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>>84461160
You lost to a bunch of jungle niggers with 40 year old equipment
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lol
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>WAAAAH WHY DOESN'T THIS SHOW FOR KIDS SHOW RAPE AND GORE!!!!
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>>84460176
History is written by the victors. Or do you actually believe the war of 1812 wasn't complete bullshit?
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>>84461521
>istory is written by the victors.
that's a meme phrase that has been disproved with science
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Why, though? Pirates aren't to be admired, so showing such acts makes sense.
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It's probably because isis shit makes it too real
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>>84461573
>science

You're in the wrong neighbor you little bitch. This is a God fearing board.
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>>84461436
>censorship is literally ok
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>>84460176
look at this duude
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>>84460144
>redesigned ride
>1 extra Barbossa animatronic
>3 extra Jack animatronics
>slightly altered visual effects
>everything else is exactly the same
Yeah, you're a hipsterfag and here's your (You)
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>>84461160

vietnam is communist though. it's just like "china" communist where it's communist in name only basically.
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>>84460525
Aren't they still racist againts non humans? they never had any problem with human race itself.
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>>84460176
It kinda already happened, just they did it to different things. Like the first Thanksgiving, trail of tears, Prohibition era, ect.

We already forgot who the first slaves were, we forgot that African tribes would sell the slaves they owned, we forgot genocides that happened and are still happening, and much more. Shit why do you think the IRA is resurfacing.
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>Caring about dated Pirates of the Caribbean when Avatar is coming to Disney
Soon the whole park will be replaced by avatar rides, turning Disney into irl Pandora.
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>>84460176
>Someday our textbooks will say that 9/11 was an unfortunate accident when white guilt pilots we're sponsoring Muslim student pilots to help get them jobs in America. The word "terrorist/terrorism" will never be associated with Muslims again
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>>84460383
Not really. :/
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>>84460439
Why are europoors so retarded?
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>>84461159
Same

thanks catholic school
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>>84460525
It's not discussed in the films at length but the empire is notoriously Carellian-supremacist. They don't let aliens participate in the military or government and only rely on them for intelligence assets when they have no alternative.
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>>84461851
I don't think even that is true anymore

I just thought it was funny that some people had a huge issue with the possibility of the empire being racist or sexist. In the original films pretty much everyone was a white male so you could argue that they were both. I believe the EU flushed it out further and confirmed what you said - they believed in the superiority of humans but they weren't racist. They were sexist in the EU though.
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>>84461232
I hope people who say this know they're being disingenuous

losing, if america did in fact lose, had nothing to do with the north Vietnamese outperforming the united states
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>>84461112
What ride is that? Looks rad.
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>>84460176
>Disney decides to stop depicting women being sold into sex slavery on their ride nobody goes on
>"Wow, what's next? Are they gonna make Lincoln a black trans woman in the hall of presidents?"
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We sure wouldn't want people to think pirates are bad or anything.
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>>84461160
>Iraq is a now democratic state
Nobody can be stupid enough to believe this. Just look at the last US election, the people wanted Bernie for democratic nominee and got Hillary.
You can't believe that once billions of dollars is spent overthrowing a government, they'll just let the people decide who leads. Hillary is on tape talking about making sure the right people get elected in overthrown governments.
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>>84462119
>Nobody goes on Pirates

Nigga what.
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>>84462121
Disney has always pushed the narrative that pirates were a bunch of lovable robin hood like scamps that sailed around and went on cool adventures. The movies just furthered that story.
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>>84462037
I remember reading comics (that are non-canon now I guess) with black and hispanic empire officials but they were still pretty nasty againts non-humans. Like wookies being used as slave labour and the like.
Haven't keep up with the new SW films tho, still have to watch Rogue One.
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>>84462119
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>>84461765
>calls self republic.
>in name only commie.
>lel i watch cnn and my logics twisted so far it comes out its own ass.
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>>84462180
I go to Disneyworld like annually and Pirates is pretty constantly light traffic in my experience
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>>84462216
>single amusement park ride with bare bones story
>pushed narrative
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>>84462216

Uhhh...they show at the start of the ride that the pirates died addicted to their material possessions. The ride literally portrays them as murderous alcoholic scumbags.
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>>84460176
How can you be sure it hasn't happened already?
#woke #sassy #nofilter
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>akhtually it's about ethics in entertainment reenactment shows at parks
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>>84462280

That's because the ride is constantly loading and unloading. There's no seatbelt check or anything as opposed to other rides like Indiana Jones/Space Mountain which need to have such checks to ensure no one gets injured.
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>>84462280
Yeah, it seems to go faster than Haunted Mansion or the Mountain rides. Of course at -Land, it's completely fucked and the line can get egregiously long.
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>>84460439
Your textbooks call the American Revolution a "minor loss" lel
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>>84461160
>>84461232
The problem in Vietnam is that the pro-US Vietnamese were utterly incapable of holding the country without US support, therefore it was literally impossible to win the war without turning Vietnam into a colony and permanently occupying the country.
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>>84460090
Did you know that Disney owned Lucasfilm banned all pictures of slave Leia in their materials? Just like Hillary said , the future is female. It's up to us male to stop feeding the beast, boycott Disney, don't take your kids to their movies and park
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>>84461901
>coming
Anon it's been here for over a month now
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>>84460439
Losing a war implies we could no longer continue it, but we could, so we abandoned the war.
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>>84462119
>their ride nobody goes on
>pirates of the Caribbean
>nobody goes on
What the honest and actual fuck are you talking about
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>>84460205
>Give it a few decades.
>>84460176
>history books are re-written

history books are complete shit by time version 2 rolls out, because version one is written by the asshole who wants to look better than they actually were when they were doing the stupid shit that warranted them getting into the history books in the first place.
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>>84462651
That's what happens when a foreign country is supporting an illegitimate group to reign over someone else country. If they were supported by the Vietnamese people, they wouldn't need americans

>>84461160
> Iraq is now a democratic state with a viable army.
Thanks for the laugh. The iraqi army and government are just like the pro US viet
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>>84462119
>leftist makes the, "lol who cares argument"
>leftist has no idea what he's talking about either
dude nihilism lmao
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>>84460383
It's not. Nowhere near 6 million kikes died and they weren't even gassed.
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>>84460176

You mean the exact opposite like in /pol/?

>hurr durr white people did nothing wrong ever
>slavery was good for black people
.
.
.

Fuck off.
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>>84462842
>and they weren't even gassed
Wew
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>>84460383
It's not really. Look into it if you have the chance. You don't have to outright deny it happened but the numbers are severely inflated
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>>84462873
The difference is we in fact ARE seeing changes being made to history books in schools and none of those changes are "slavery wasn't bad." In fact nobody said that except for you
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>>84460483
Yeah I don't remember it either. Mandela effect?
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>>84460090

to be honest it has always been weird as fuck how hollywood glamorizes pirates who would and still do murder innocent people to loot their ships
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>>84462960
>The difference is we in fact ARE seeing changes being made to history books in schools

Name one.
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>>84462873
the best part is their WW2 revisionism

>Nazis hated the jews because of the Weimar republic even tho they didn't and the holocaust is fake so is all jewish propaganda
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>>84463010

Yeah it takes a while to wrap your head around the mental gymnastics.

>Jews are responsible for everything wrong ever in the world
>ISRAEL IS OUR ALLY
>Hitler was right about the Jews!!!!!!
>The holocaust...

Mindboggling contradictions.
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>>84460295

Clinton is far from the only female presidential candidate. Do some research of history.
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>>84462840
>4 replies
>about the number of riders: 4
>about the actual argument of the post: 0
usually a decent indicator the point is sound
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>>84460282
Lol this scaremongering post. What power did the courts show that was tyrannical, in the last 15 years?
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>>84462809
They are a viable army though, they have pretty much cleared ISIS out of Iraq. Granted them fleeing is what let ISIS take over to begin with, but they are much stronger now.
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>>84463059
You're conflating the opinions of multiple groups of people because you're mentally retarded.
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>>84462842
>weren't even gassed
kek. wtf?
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>>84463251
Still waiting for that one example of revisionism in an official Western history schoolbook, which is "PC".

An ad hominem wont make your cognitive dissonance less apparent.
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>>84460282
my favourite one is pretending that America won the war of Independence despite Canada literally bordering the US (because no one knows what the war of 1812 was or why the white house was burnt and had to be painted)
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>>84463329
What the fuck are you talking about, shit for brains?

You act like everyone on /pol/ is anti jew and loves Israel, which isn't the case. Learn how this fucking website works so you don't look retarded next time.
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>>84460090
I'm actually surprised it took this long
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>>84463420
This is my second post requesting for an example of a "PC-revisionist" history book for schools in the Western world.

More ad hominems arent gonna help ya lad.
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>>84460090
Television & Film
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>>84463378
>favourite
Go to bed, Abdul.
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>>84460502
>They'll probably add female and gay pirates to the ride instead now
>add female
Who were Anne Bonny and Mary Read?
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>>84463420
>Gets mad
>Doesn't actually reply to the post
Aaaaaaaye
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>>84463136
the actual argument was about the number of riders and how it is a "non issue"

I addressed both of those points

or is your argument that we're making a slippery slope case? that would be pretty fucking stupid
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>>84463444
Man you are a fucking idiot. It's like you don't even understand how replies work.
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>>84460317
>>84460344
>>84460543
pirate worshipping is fucking retarded
>literally a bunch of murderers and racists who also sold people to slavery
>all of that is forgotten in the media because MUH PIRATE FREEDOM, PIRATES ARE FREE
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>>84460662
back to tumblr, roastie
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>>84463251
t. someone that says that everyone left of him is the same retarded commie loving fag
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>>84463378
>burning down a building means you won a war even though you packed up and left after because the rest of the war was unwinnable

Brits/Canuckcucks are THIS insecure
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>>84463498
Its ok kiddo. Someday youll understand how "an argument" works. Until then, good luck! Youll need it.
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>>84460090
>an amusement park for children is eliminating their sex slavery exhibit
I'm outraged
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>>84462065
>outperform
what the fuck are you saying the US killed 100 gooks for every soldier they lost
they burnt down entire jungles
entire villages and cities were reduced to piles of ash and rubble
to this day there are still areas that the Vietnamese are incapable of entering for fear of stepping on land mines
by what metric did they outperform the US?
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>>84463059
>>84463010
>these awful strawmen

wew lad
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>>84460176
>a Disney children's pirate ride with a made up island
>needs to be historically accurate when it comes to rape.
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>>84463469
>article about them changing how an animatronic dresses on a theme park ride
>thread takes 5 posts to bring up holocaust revisionism
nah, you're right, I was reaching on the slippery slope criticism
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>>84462873
You can hate /pol/ all you want but changing history to fit social narratives is complete and utter horseshit
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>>84463512
isn't pro-privateer propaganda part of the reason pirate worship exists? it's a mistake to paint these people as anarchists unaffiliated with state power
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>>84463640
>strawmen

Maybe you should go back to /pol/ and actually read the sticky. It might help identifying logical errors, instead of just spouting popular buzzwords to avoid an argument.
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>>84460090
DISNEY YES!
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>>84463674
Still waiting for an example.
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>pirates were renown for being scoundrels, murderers, rapists
>remove all aspects of them doing this to make then appeal to kids

what
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>>84463687
>/pol/ loves hitler and denies the holocaust but loves israel

this is a strawman because no one believes this, you're making shit up to attack some /pol/ boogeyman that doesn't exist.
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>>84460543
>if you steal their bounty you lose
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>>84460526
That's not censorship buddy.
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>>84463512
fuck I meant to say rapists not racists
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>>84463469
Read that anon's post minus the words "nobody goes on". Is it still an argument? Than that wasn't the crux, dipshit.
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>>84463722
Canadian history, 2002-2007. We were told by our bleeding heart sjw teachers that the evil white man showed up and took everything. One based teacher in grade 9 told us nah, a war was fought and the natives lost, they didn't have guns.
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>>84460543
You're right. A pirate just duplicates a person's property. No harm done. Here's me pirating some a purse.
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>>84461662
>a private company changing their own fictional fantasy pirate ride for kids, is censorship
You people are retarded.
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>old ride design was "women are oppressed and sold! wow, feel bad for them!"
>new design is "women really don't have much to whine about"

I fail to see the problem in changing this scene.
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>>84463780
But...the white man did show up with guns to forcibly take the land owned by a native population. What did you miss? You just repeated yourself twice.
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>>84463840
You just don't get it. Japan was caught denying their war crimes in Nanking and outright lying to their students. Changing history is never ok for good or for bad, just tell people the truth
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>>84463593
(You)
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>>84463724


>this is a strawman because no one believes this, you're making shit up to attack some /pol/ boogeyman that doesn't exist.

Just how new are you friend?

Thats literally /pol/ mainstream groupthink. Talking that faggy shit might get you called a "cuck".

Now scuttle along

>>>/pol/

this isnt an echochamber. Hope you learned something.

>>84463780

>We were told by our bleeding heart sjw teachers that the evil white man showed up and took everything.

Mate can you read? Teachers are shit in the US and Canada. Thats a well established fact. Were talking about pc-revisionist HISTORY BOOKS.

You guys need to step up your reading comprehension.
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>>84461765
I know a rich kid from vietnam and he said his parents just store all their wealth in gold bars
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>>84463724
>nobody believes this
>/pol/ is a boogeyman
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>84463907
Yea it's called conquering, you should look it up some time. Natives fought back too so don't shit on their bravery by making them out to be defence less victims you Fucking cuck
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>>84460495
Most don't even get into Korea, but then again it wasn't heavily covered by the media
>storm the beach of South Korea
>take it with ease and march forward
>take most of North Korea
>fuck this is easy we probably won't be here a whole year!
>China: you're getting a little too close to comfort so skedaddle
>pushes us back all the way to South Korea again
>just leave
>well...we still captured South Korea so that's a win and we'll write it as a win
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>>84460176
>>84460282
that reminds me how some minister of education here in greece a few years ago changed the history books to describe the catastrophe of Smyrna as "commotion near the docks" or something to that effect
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>>84463469
>>84463909
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>>84463780

How are the two incompatible though? White people were still invading shit that wasn't theirs.The fact that the natives tried to defend their land and failed doesn't actually amend the narrative "evil white men came and took all their land."
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>>84463935
>it's called conquering
Literally doesn't justify their attempts at genocide my edgey friend.
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>>84463923
>Just how new are you friend?
>Thats literally /pol/ mainstream groupthink. Talking that faggy shit might get you called a "cuck".
>Now scuttle along


nice fucking argument kid, you're so far up your own ass you don't even realize it.

got a screen cap or archive post of someone saying hitler was great and the holocaust wasnt real but that they also love Jews and Israel?

if not you should kill yourself
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>>84463933
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>>84463923
The actual books rarely get revised because that would leave proof wouldn't it. The books are written completely open ended and the teachers shove their bias down the students throat. The problem isn't the books themselves it's the cucks that teach it. Like I said Japan got caught actually revising their books to deny war crimes and it was a shitshow
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>>84463935
>get nearly wiped out in a few hundred years for not having advanced weaponry
>somehow, you don't get to call yourself a victim
The gymnastics you people go through is astounding.
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>>84463935

Nobody made them out to be defenceless victims, why are you so sensitive about this lol? Was your great-grandaddy raped by a native?

White people came and killed natives to take their land by force. The fact that the natives resisted doesn't make the white people any more moral, considering by your own admission the white people had superior technology and weaponry.

You just seem sorta fucking retarded and hickish desu. Are you a Cletus?
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>>84463674
history has already been changed to fit social narratives
the traditional description of human history as a series of wars is a narrow view through the lens of imperialism and monarchy, it ignores many of the important (complicated!) catalysts for change in society and largely fails to illustrate the tensions between the ruling class and their subjects
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>>84463724
Don't bother with that guy, he just replies with "post an example" because he thinks every person that replies to him is this guy>>84462960

Redditors don't understand how this site works.
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>>84464025
>be weak and undeveloped peoples
>get rekt by more superior peoples

applying modern "morality" to history is a joke, you'd have to be a complete faggot to do that.
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>>84463971
Actually yea it does, do you know the definition of conquering? Was it right? No. Did it happen? Yes. Is it anyone's fault today? Absofuckinglutely not
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>>84460090
WE BE MORAL UPSTANDING CITIZENS N SHIET, AAARRGGGHHH.
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>>84460090

I had this autistic girl in my history class recently in regards to pirates raise her hand and say that some of the most famous and fierce pirates were actually women and how many of the pirates were homosexual. No one said shit to her. How wrong is she?
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>>84464072
WE BE MALE FEMINISTS AND ANTI-PREJUDICE ARGGHH MATEY
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>>84463978
>got a screen cap or archive post of someone saying hitler was great and the holocaust wasnt real
ABSOLUTELY KEKING BEYOND BELIEF

https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/Holocaust/
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>>84463968
Is this real life? You do understand that before whites came to north America natives slaughtered the shit out of each other in tribal wars right? You do understand that humans are violent by nature right?
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>>84464082
Pretty wrong considering being a female on a ship full of pirates would almost certainly equal rape.
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>>84464104
No shit /pol/ denies the holocaust, the point you were making was that they hold the contradictory love of Israel

you failed so fucking hard lmao, absolutely pathetic display reddit.
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>>84464024
No you don't get to call yourself a victim. You got btfo because you wanted to stagnate your culture and not invent guns. Cry me a Fucking river tanto. Oh and did you miss the part where many native tribes sided with the Europeans and fought against other natives? With guns? What's it like having your head up your ass?
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>>84464112
Nah boi its da white man he be da devil yo sheeeiiittt
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>>84463747
Even better.
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>>84464062
Nobody is saying people now are directly responsible you brainwashed faggot, but to wash away how legitimately terrible people have been to Native Americans by saying "well, conquering happens bruh ;)" is perhaps the most retarded way you could revise history. That's such a blatantly retarded hand wave just to make it seem like it wasn't that bad. Whites literally spread diseases to them through blankets in order to decrease their populations and force then to move but to you this is just "par of the course, nothing personal matey". You browse on /pol/, right?
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>>84460090
Ive never seen a pirates movie nor have I been to Disneyland but that inappropriate as fuck for a kids themepark
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>>84464165
>literally what revisionist history looks like
Wew my nigga.
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>>84464222
Actually yes they literally are saying that people today are responsible. Blacks blame people today for slavery and natives blame whitey today for the fact that they don't have jobs and get drunk all day
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>rebranding test track as some tron legacy ride
>tron is no longer relevant

the world thing they did though were all the changes they made to spaceship earth. i think i went on it as a kid when it was jeremy irons's voice doing the narration? that was pretty good. now there's a fucking touch screen thing and instead of going down a starfield at the end enjoying the amazing music you do some kind of touch screen quiz. fuck
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>>84464057
superior already implies that it's better than something else
"more" isn't necessary
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>>84464152
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Israel/

I'm going to write it off as you being new here.
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>>84464112
some of them were violent and some of them were not. gr8 tu quoque tho
>humans are violent by nature
statistically speaking humans are peaceful by nature,
https://youtu.be/UhoHwQ0cwIQ?t=67
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>>84464222
there was a single proven account of a diseased blanket being spread intentionally

ONE

and it was in Canada.

90% of the Natives were wiped out by disease before the colonists even pushed farther West

do you think Mongols still get shit for killing 40 million Asians, Europeans, and Middle Easterners? Stop whining about shit no one alive did and no one alive suffered from.
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>>84464222
And yes you can 100% hand wave it off as being conquered because I don't see anyone bitching about mongols or Romans anywhere. No one alive today was conquered and no one alive today was part of the conquering. So fuck off with your apologist bullshit
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>>84464222
Don't wind yourself up anon. You're completely right but you're only going to get dragged into the land of bullshit semantics and dishonesty
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>>84464261
A lot of that seems like you projecting, but you do benefit from the effects of slavery and western expansion. Even /pol/fags admit they benefit.
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>>84464301
>top 10 are all bashing jews and israel
wow you sure showed me !!!
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>>84463814
There is literally nothing wrong with pirating you stupid faggot, pic related.
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>>84464346
Literally scroll down, kiddo. First it was hating Trump for being a zionist shill, now they love Israel because Trump does.

All of you are retarded fucking drones over there, who can't keep your narrative straight.
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>>84464382
>>Like cuckservatives who support Israel
Kikes belong in kikeland
>white colonists in their justification for slavery.
What the fuck are you even talking about 85iq nigger?
>Or pretty much and priest/pastor at a church sermon.
Hily shit youre a fucking dummy. If youre going to respind to my posts at least try and make a coherent statement you illiterate dum dum.


>Support Israel then backstab them


wew lad, I guess /pol/ loves Israel now
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>>84464315
>90% of the Natives were wiped out by disease before the colonists even pushed farther West
This meme again that's not even accurate.
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>>84463010
>should we talk about how we basically robbed Germany of everything it had at the end of WWI with the Treaty of Versailles
>no the US entered in 1918 and won the war that's all kids need to know. Then Hitler wrote Mein Kampf and created the nazi party overnight and throw in a bunch of holocaust stats too don't forget we're competing with television here
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>>84464222
>Nobody is saying people now are directly responsible
I've gotten into arguments with black people for blaming me for slavery shit just because I have white skin. My father's family didn't even come to America until 1929 and my mom is Mexican. Gets pretty annoying desu
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>>84464315
> Stop whining about shit no one alive did and no one alive suffered from.
"Those who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it."
I mean seriously, you're in a history thread, arguing about history, and you're asking him to stop whining about history? It's like the mental gymnastics OLYMPICS with you.
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>>84460176
It's re-written to accommodate future generations white boy
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>>84462809
north Vietnam had China and USSR supplying them. most Vietnamese people wanted the US to win, but through propaganda the rest of the world thinks they hated everything to do with the west

>>84462651
also see South Korea

Korea and Vietnam war are the same thing, we won one lost other. which country is doing better?
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>>84464417
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/111205-native-americans-europeans-population-dna-genetics-science/

you have counter evidence right?
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>>84464441
Seems like you are going out of you way to find these people and get mad at them.
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>>84461521
history is written by the people who have money and control publication of books.
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>>84464443
You make the mistake of thinking I give a fuck about Native Americans or "repeating" our history.

in fact I'd love for us to repeat history, our culture was stronger then. now we just have cucks like you telling us to feel ashamed about it
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>>84464471
I guess you misunderstood what the point of contention was about:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12003378

http://www.pbs.org/gunsgermssteel/variables/smallpox.html

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/11/european-diseases-left-genetic-mark-native-americans

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics

Get fucked you dumb kid.
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>>84464467
Vietnam

>not governed by a secret cabal of witches
>people aren't obsessed with plastic surgery
>no moral degeneracy

b-but they have less money and money is everything in life!
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>>84461000
He's also in the narration and honestly his face is so fucking recognizable he really stands out in the ride filled with cartoonish-looking people.

Went last year.
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>>84464516
>you shouldn't feel ashamed for having ancestors that wiped out an entire civilization for land.
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>>84460502
you mean like black sails?
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>>84464597
>civilization
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>>84464471
>The number of Native Americans quickly shrank by roughly half following European contact about 500 years ago, according to a new genetic study.
"Following" means "after", sweetie...
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>>84464482
No, I just happened to work at a university, so you can imagine the climate. They always brought up the topic of race when I wanted nothing to do with it.
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>>84464564
how does this disprove that most natives were killed by disease?

it was unintentional because there is only ONE written account of a diseased blanket being given out

it wasn't a widespread practice, most Natives died through simple interaction with Europeans when they brought diseases back to their tribes.
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>>84464341
Slavery was a drop in the bucket, and they were soon outclassed by machinery. Blacks didn't contribute shit to America. But the miniscule benefits that you talk about also benefit natives and blacks, so I don't see your point. Honestly blacks should be thanking us for the free boat ride to be honest.
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>>84464597
name 5 empires that didnt do this at one point or another

>being ashamed of things you weren't around for and had no part in.

keep swinging that whip, self flagellating cuck.
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>>84461765
lol
>communist by name only?
>both governments owns all land
>people can not buy land
>must lease from government
>communist only in name
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>>84460176
They already are
They're teaching in my cousin's school that Cleopatra and Hannibal were full Congo Black
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>>84464626
you know that it took hundreds of years for Europeans to reach the west coast and when they did it was in very small numbers?

if you think the majority of natives died through intentional genocide you're an absolutely brainwashed retard
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>>84464637
It was diseases after they met the Europeans and it is literally fucking wrong that there was only one smallpox story recorded, fuck off. I don't even know where you got that dumb /pol/ meme from but I just gave you a handful of sources. Keep trying to make Europeans out into dindu nuffins though.
>smallpox was an accident I swear! Believe me!
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>>84464674
>>>being ashamed of things you weren't around for and had no part i
and yet being proud for things your "country" did is totally fine and cool
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>>>/his/
>>>/his/
>>>/his/
>>>/his/
>>>/his/
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>>84460176
All history books are edited to serve a purpose other than educating people about history.
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>>84464674
This isn't an argument?
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>>84464724
>it is literally fucking wrong that there was only one smallpox story recorded


http://cherokeeregistry.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=407&Itemid=617


fuck off kike, this is the only recorded and historically accurate record of it happening.
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>>84461920
the MSM pretty much just says "extremist" now, never says their race just a name. unless you are white in ever single case
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>>84464516
>in fact I'd love for us to repeat history,
so you'd like to repeat the resounding defeat of the "master race" in WWII? or the moorish conquest of spain?
"Return your sword to its place, for all who will take up the sword, will die by the sword."
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>>84464738
No, you misunderstand. This is a good-spirited discussion of how a robot should dress
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>>84464737
Yes, you are correct.
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>>84464715
>if you think the majority of natives died through intentional genocide you're an absolutely brainwashed retard

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_Gulch_massacre
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>>84464814
>or the moorish conquest of spain?
Or the Spanish reconquista
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>>84464737
yeah my country put people in space and cured hundreds of diseases.

given an extra 500 years the Natives maybe would've invented an alphabet.

>>84464814
History has its ups and downs, you can't deny that Europe didn't spawn the greatest civilizations mankind has seen.
>inb4 it wasnt dat great u remember da inquisitioN???
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my favorite politically correct history lesson:
native americans never domesticated bison because it just wasn't possible
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>>84464875
another one

The Iroquois Confederacy never practiced slavery.
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Isn't Colombus treated as a genocidal maniac nowadays?
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>>84464836
You missed the part where he said "majority" and "genocide."

The MAJORITY of injuns died to disease; Trail of Tears was not a genocide.

Injuns, of course, never participated in massacres. They was good red bois, dindu nuffin.
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>>84464776
So I already showed you documented evidence that it happened multiple times and even if it only happened once, that's still fucking horrific. That's like /pol/ saying "they only gassed a few thousand Jews!" Like it's not still genocide.

What is your agenda here? What exactly is your goal? To rewrite history to make it less bloodthirsty or to make Europeans look less like monsters?
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>>84464836
thats a very large amount yes, but certainly not the majority of native americans

if you consider diseases brought by euros to be intentional then yes
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>>84464836
those all happened more than 300 years after Europeans came to America, cannot under common understandings of the word be termed genocide, and combined didn't kill even five thousand people while at least several tens of millions were killed by diseases during the same period

keep moving the goal posts, though
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>>84463115
You sexist pig!
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>>84464873
individuals did, not your country
not you losers
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>>84464926
>Trail of Tears was not a genocide.
Yes it was...

Holy shit what is wrong with some of you?
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>Pharaons and Egyptians were all Black
>Blacks never enslaved other people
>Slavery was invented by Europeans
You can find this shit in books in schools nowadays
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>>84464911
No, he just abused the language barrier to basically steal from them.
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Why are women so spoiled?
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>>84464946
Kek, these gymnastics.
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>>84464942
>one case ever recorded
>can be extrapolated to all European colonists like the Spanish, French, Canadians and Colonial Americans

nah cunt, it wasn't intentional for the large part.

>>84464975
>genocide is when any large amount of people die

wew lad
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>>84463115
Next you'll tell me Wonder Woman 2017 wasn't the first movie lead by a woman and the first female superhero depicted in any media
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>>84464979
>Slavery was invented by Europeans
>You can find this shit in books in schools
Which ones?
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>>84464960
Literally thousands died from that ONE smallpox incident. That is the textbook definition of what a genocide looks like. What in the fuck is your argument here?
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>>84462119

The only thing required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.
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Well you can turn and twist it however you like, but most of the indigenous people of America died because of the immigrants, intentionally or not.
Killing how many millions over 200 years might not be an intentional genocide, but the end result is what matters.
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>>84464873
>you can't deny that Europe didn't spawn the greatest civilizations mankind has seen.
an empire is often the greatest civilization in history. europe's been doing well recently. but to pretend that e.g. the egyptian or chinese empires were not impressive for their time is just silly
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>>84465013
>it wasn't intentional to forcibly and continuously remove an indigenous population through war, famine, disease or outright genocide.
>I don't know what the word genocide means
The word isn't a quantity of "meets a criteria number" but of WHO is being targeted and how. If I kill ten people for all being autiatic and I want to wipe out all demographics of autistic people, I am genociding autistic people.
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>>84460090
>Disney giving SJWs some leeway
it'll only get worse from here
>how come that pirate isn't trans?
>where are the healthy at every size obese pirates?
>why aren't there any handicapable female pirates?
>why don't any of the pirates have cutting scars?
>where are the poc pirates?
>why is brer rabbit a male? that rabbit could easily be female
>why is snow white so creepy looking? make her morbidly obese with stretch marks and also black and trans
>make the witch into a straight white male
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>>84461232
>You lost to a bunch of jungle niggers with 40 year old equipment
If you want to do the pure numbers game we damn near genocided the VC. The war was lost because of South Vietnam being unable to hold onto anything as well as hippies and commies back home.
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>>84463329
>>84463003
slavery. hands down has changed massively in the last 20 years.

>how many founding fathers wanted it, get rid of it?
>when did the US stop importing slaves?
>how many slaves did the US have?
>how many whites owned slaves? how many blacks?
>are blacks the only slaves the US ever had?
>who sold slaves?

if any of these questions are ask (i doubt most are) new history books will just say Whites and all Whites only even though millions and millions of whites immigrated here after 1865.

do some of your own reading faggot kys
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>>84465040
>Literally thousands died from that ONE smallpox incident. That is the textbook definition of what a genocide looks like.

No, no it's not. The disease WAS UNINTENTIONAL, you fucking idiot.

>>84465095
>but most of the indigenous people of America died because of the immigrants, intentionally or not.

Which is why we should import more immigrants, of course. Worked well for the injuns.
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>>84465161
>muh sluppery slope fallacy
>over a children's pirate ride
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>>84460483
I remember that part of the ride. Did you go to Land or World?
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>>84464802
I believe it. But I was out of highschool before they even first published 9/11 and the following war into textbooks.
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>>84465189
Just wait until the "so progressive!" tweets start rolling in, they'll go all out thinking this is what millennials want and what will get them into their parks.
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>>84463939
Korean War never ended. We've just been at a cease fire all these years.
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>>84465177
>No, no it's not. The disease WAS UNINTENTIONAL, you fucking idiot.
I have explained to you at least three times, that there are documented records of deliberate spread of infectious diseases...especially smallpox. You are retarded, mate. No two ways about it. Next you are going to cite me The Greatest Story Never Told, amirite? Why not? You've already revised one historical event...why not another?
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>>84465177
>The smallpox blanket was unintentional
Can't make this shit up
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>>84465051
Well then you better get down to Orlando and stuff that robot back into a corset

Democracy is at stake
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>>84460536
my nigga
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>>84463512
Yar har, fiddle di dee,
Being a pirate is all right with me!
Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free,
You are a pirate!
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>>84465259
Oh look, this /pol/ tactic again. You find one book written by a single contrarian and stack that up against a fucking library of counter information...and none of the literal volumes of information matter because you found ONE autist who agrees with you.

Just like you can find me a novel on Holocaust denial, or climate denial or flat earth...
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>>84463003
The earth is round.
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>>84460725
Women are the primary victims in things they're not involved in.
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>>84462119
They recently updated potc actually now Jack Sparrow is the hero of the ride and shows up at random timesthey also dress some guy up as Jack and make him stand outside the ride and do his best Johnny Depp impression
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>>84460090
FUCK THIS SHIT
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>>84461573
How?
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>>84463604
>WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
That shit was fine for years. The fact that we have to change it now only shows how far our society has fallen.
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>>84465304
Now turn around bitch
Get dat ass on a nigga
Grind on his dick, make it get a little bigga
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>>84464261
>>84464222
in wonder woman, what did the native say when asked why he was in Europe? and i hear it all the time living next to a Rez, black people want all white people to pay even though most whites today dont even have an ancester that owned a slave
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>>84465356
Are you implying death makes you a victim? Because I thought the new atheistic way of thinking means nothing happens when you die.
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>>84465401
What a dramatic faggot you are.
>society has fallen because they took rape and sex slavery out of a children's ride
This isn't Hentai alternative, go back
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>>84464082
name 1 without google, then name as many men as you can. that way youll have your answer
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>>84465401
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>>84460543
>A literal baby show Teaching kids not to steal

OMG WHAT AN OUTRAGE
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>>84460090
honestly surprised that they haven't applied more revisionism to the jungle cruise ride. the props abound with eurocentric depictions of 'savages'
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>>84464025
I do wonder how long until they drop manifest destiny from the history books. Saying we were morally just in massacring the natives because it was god's will that the white man conquer the continent cannot go over well.
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>>84465457
Society has fallen because faggots like you need everything to be a safe space. Then when something bad happens you shit your pants and cry for mommy like the little bitch you are.
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>>84464627
>we talked about things I was uncomfortable with at a forum for discourse and education
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>>84465401
yeah you're right. let's put hardcore pornography all over the teacup ride, and surround the entrance to pirates with realistic heads on pikes. those little shits have had it too easy for too many years, it's time to teach them about the real world.
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>>84465247
>documented records
but where is proofs?
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>>84464639
>Blacks didn't contribute shit to America.
Wew lad...
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>>84465571
It's funny to think how much better of America would have been without blacks.
God damn what a terrible mistake it was bringing them here.
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>>84465562
Read the thread. The faggot he's argument with posted one.
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>>84465527
Lot of projection here, kid.
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>>84465546
>if you want to keep this dark aspect of the PotC ride then you want to show hardcore pornography to little kids
Project harder please.
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>>84465571
>muh carver inventing the peanut
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>>84464576
which one would you like to live in honestly?
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>>84465527
you'd get beaten up in a heartbeat for saying the stuff that you post here if you didn't have a safe space behind your keyboard, and you know it
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>>84465595
>no proofs
Typical historical revisionist.
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>>84465626
0/10
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>>84465601
>literally so essential and tied to Southern economy, that their freedom virtually destroyed them for hundreds of years
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>>84465600
>I don't have an argument so I'm just going to meme
:^)
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>>84464597
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaha hahaha

>you should feel ashamed for things you didn't do
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahabaha
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Remember when they hung a kid in a PG-13 movie?
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>>84462098
Frozen
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>>84465595
I posted all sorts of sources saying how smallpox was intentional, yes.
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>>84464082
>No one said shit to her

well, what was the teacher's response?
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>>84465662
How about hindsight or at the very least, remorse? Can you handle that?
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>>84465625
Who'd beat me up? A limp wristed liberal who'd piss his pants if I handed him a gun?

>>84465660
Calling someone out on projecting harder than a lumen isn't a meme.
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>>84461160
oh nooooooooooooo
you need to get away from /pol/ for a while
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>>84465650
>still no proofs
Sad!
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This has nothign to do with television or film
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>>84465189
>doesn't understand the ramifications of poisoning a child's mind

Look no further than every cuck in this thread who actually thinks it's our fault that natives got btfo 300 years ago
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>>84465719
>show some remorse for something you didn't do!!
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>>84465594
yeah you're right
the us economy would not have grown as quickly, they never would have acquired independence, and in all likelihood world war II could have been averted
it's a shame
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>>84460502
Granuaille was fucking based.
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>>84464597
Nigga, that's bad ass. Why shouldn't I feel anything but pride to be descended from such victors? Get the fuck out of here.
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>>84464911
yes he is, on youtube there is a video with natives (all very very very ugly btw) saying the first word that comes to mind about Colombus, many States want to remove or already have removed Colombus day
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>>84465769
300 years ago they knew it was their fault, they just didn't care.
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>>84465719
>remorse for things you didn't do
You can't make this shit up, go prep your wife's bull
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>>84465653
>so essential
But most of them weren't even actually freed, they signed agreement with plantation owners and started work again. The only thing that destroyed the southern economy was the fallout of the Civil War in which we lost hundreds of thousands of men. Whether or not that ties in with emancipation is debatable.
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>>84465778
lol
Irish indentured servants were far more efficient at farming than blacks were.
Even better, without slavery to hold them back, the South could have industrialized sooner and and USA could have grown far quicker into a powerhouse without blacks to hold it back.

It's so sad that blacks are in America. Such a waste of potential. Nothing but a drain on society until today and likely forever. I don't think they will ever into civilization.
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>>84465769
>changing a children's ride is poisoning their mind
I wonder if you have the self-awareness to hear how ridiculous you people sound.
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>>84460344
so you're suggesting some kids are going to go on the PotC ride and then get home and start auctioning off women?
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>>84465447
Are you suggesting that people don't care whether or not they die because they're an atheist?
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>>84465775
>don't show any basic empathy for human tragedy committed by your own government
>in fact, go to great lengths to hand wave it as much as possible
>can't just admit it was wrong now, can we?
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>>84465727
>A limp wristed liberal who'd piss his pants if I handed him a gun?
whoah careful with that edge there boy
>projecting harder than a lumen
so...1/500th the strength of a typical lightbulb?
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>>84465224
so have i, i dont even want to know how they spin the ME tale right now
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>>84465909
They definitely shouldn't, since it implies they think they're wrong.
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>>84465719
"I'm sorry for the actions of my people", said Anon as his wife moaned with pleasure and Jamal's balls hit his face with the rage of a thousand years of slavery.
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>>84465862
Is this the "history lesson" you get over at /pol/?
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>>84465881
You still don't get it. You change the the ride and the kid asks their cuck parents what's going on, the cuck parents get to point at the bullshit display and indent their cuck mentality on their children. Do you remember the first time you saw an animal die? And your parents had to try and explain what happened? A good parent says the bird went to a better place where it gets to fly around all day with its bird friends. A cuck parent says the evil house owner shouldn't clean their windows because it murders birds.
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>>84465862
>Whether or not that ties in with emancipation is debatable.
You are absolutely retarded that it hurts. Emancipation literally crippled the South, it's why they never fully recovered during and after Reconstruction.
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>>84465869
the us colonies were dependent on agriculture for a century before industrialization, you stupid, stupid man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYmn3Gwn3oI
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>>84465926
Has anyone said it wasn't wrong? We admit it was wrong and that's where the conversation ends. Youre the one that wants someone to feel blame for it
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>>84465853
Lack of basic empathy is a sign of sociopathy.
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>>84465927
kek how is that even slightly edgy?
>so...1/500th the strength of a typical lightbulb?
How's that extra chromosome treating you? I'm obviously not talking about the unit
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>>84466001
You are just rewording a slippery slope fallacy.
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>>84465969
not that guy, but which part are you talking about?
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>>84466038
Being an eternal victim is a sign of high estrogen levels
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>>84466037
>Has anyone said it wasn't wrong?
Lol read this thread. Both that it wasn't wrong or that "it wasn't that bad bruh ;)"

Your typical revisionist bullshit.
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>>84466070
>muh slippery slope fallacy

Children are heavily impressionable, since we all agree that shitty parents tend to raise shitty kids, why can't we agree that cuck parents raise cuck kids
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>>84465719
>why cant people hundreds and thousands of years ago think exactly like i (and i alone) think today, i mean common its the current year
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>>84466096
Asking for you to be empathetic to the near destruction of an entire civilization, is somehow asking to be victims?

You kids go through such lengths...
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>>84466141
Because "cuck" is a dumb meme I'm not indulging with you.
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>>84466069
>projecting harder than a lumen
>I'm obviously not talking about the unit
how's that extra chromosome treating you?
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>>84466154
>literally not what was said at all.
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>>84466105
People said it wasn't wrong because it was conquering during an era when conquering happened. Killing people is always bad but it happens and if you weren't involved it's not your fault. Why would anyone feel guilty for something they had no part in. You'll sit here and call broke white people lazy cunts for growing up in poverty and not being millionaires yet when it's natives or blacks theyre just being held down by the white man right?
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>>84465177
>Which is why we should import more immigrants, of course.
Of course.
Worked nice for us Germans.
Actually, no it doesn't.
But....here is an idea...Not bombing their countries into a toxic wasteland could help to avoid the idea of immigration in the first place.
Also selling weapons to dictators and stuff like that, might be actually a stupid idea.
But you know the drill, there are monetary interests at risk so fuck these people.
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>>84466157
Countless civilizations have been destroyed throughout the centuries. Life's shit now grow a pair.
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>>84466071
Saying that it is "debatable" how emancipation fucked up their economy.
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>>84466206
>browses /tv/
>doesn't know about lumen projectors
>screenshots the fucking definition of the word instead of googling "lumen projecting" like a normal person
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>>84460176
Whole lotta armchair historians and wikischolars chiming in to this post.
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>>84466222
You realize that these are literally mental gymnastics, right? Then why study history at all! Who cares! Looks like we can't talk about history retroactively in a way that doesn't make you sperg.
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>>84466157
You're preaching to the wrong person my friend, I have a lot if native family and I've heard all the white man hate. It's complete and utter bullshit. The only natives that have any right to be pissed today are the ones that got put in residential schools back in the 60's. Everyone else can fuck right off and stop taking gibs
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>>84466271
It's like you aren't following the conversation...
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>>84465169
>do some of your own reading faggot kys

I think you're the onle one hete still reading high school text books.
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>>84465881
You're what's ruining the country.
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>>84466183
Cuck is the perfect term to use actually. Cucking is a form of masochism, the cuck gets off on the degredation, which I personally find disgusting but whatever two people want to do in the privacy of their own home is up to them. But when you bring the cucking to a nature atonal level and start forcing everyone to pay for shit they didn't do and feel sorry for shit they didn't do, nah fuck that I have a big problem with that. Take your cuck ass to the ghetto and hand out reperations if you want but leave that shit out of politics
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>>84466351
Sure I am, #notmypirates amirite?
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>>84466258
>doesn't understand what lumen means in the context of projectors
>thinks lumen projectors means super powerful projectors even though every use of lumen before projector is preceded by a large number
>gradually realizing mistake but already committed to it, so it's time to double down
thanks buddy, you've really dispelled a lot of stereotypes about typical republican voters in the united states today
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>>84466364
I want you to give me one example of someone demanding you pay money for shit you didn't do a few hundred years ago, you triggered baby.
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>>84466269
Now you're projecting your cuck mentality on to me, not gonna work buddy. Everyone should read history and learn it. 100% raw unbiased history, tell people what happened and let them discuss it. Leave your guilty conscience at the door and don't try and bring everyone else down to your level of self loathing
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>>84466011
>Civil War ends and slaves are freed
>Jim Crow "separate but equal" established and revived the Black Codes
>most slaves just go back to work on the plantation under the guise of sharecropping and tenant farming
>the ones that didn't usually went north and worked in factories
>plantation owners didn't lose their land, just the ability to sell off slaves
>cotton production grew but the money was never like it was before the war
>steel production went up
>textile mills were created
>South prospered but most freed slaves lived in poverty

hmm
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>>84466429
>100% raw unbiased history, tell people what happened and let them discuss it
Right, cool. I agree. So let's talk about the organized effort to inoculate blankets with diseases in order to dissuade Native American tribes from staying on their land...
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>>84466405
>What are reparations paid to the Indian people
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>>84466292
>muh empathy
Yea it sucks, I wouldn't personally have partaken in those events. No you cannot have my tax dollars, fuck off kike
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>>84466482
You mean, giving them barely a fraction of a tenth of their land back to them? That wasn't yours in the first place? Yes, what a grave injustice.
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>>84466405
I want you go look up how taxation works so that you can understand perfectly how every dime the government spends is the people's money.
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>>84466505
I'm not the person you're autistically talking to. I just answered your request.
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>>84466455
>he thinks plantation owners kept all their lands
>he thinks the South was "prosperous"
Virtually all of this is some hick-fantasy revision of how fucking destroyed the South was after the war.
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>>84466472
Yea that's pretty fucked up. Anything else?
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>>84466398
>gradually realizing mistake but already committed to it, so it's time to double down
No I can admit when I've made a mistake. I thought I'd seen a company by the name of Lumen selling projectors some time ago.
Still better to be wrong in something trivial than to be a liberal.
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>>84466505
>you can't own land
>give the natives back their land
What did hippy cucks mean by this?
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>>84466546
You didn't answer at all. It's their fucking land. You don't pay taxes on reservations you stupid tard.
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>>84466584
That's the only historical critique you can offer? Woah, very in-depth.
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>>84466640
We took it so we own it. Are you baiting for (You) s? Fuck off.
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>>84462978
More like you just forgot
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>>84466538
Oh, are you one of those "taxation is theft" faggots?
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>>84466669
What else do you expect me to say? We both agree it was wrong. Do you want me video tape myself crying over it?
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>>84466579
How exactly was it destroyed after the war? so far all you've done is say no while I've been providing proof of how the South, while never returning to its height before the war, did not in fact "crash".
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>>84466694
No but it kind of is. I understand taxation must exist so we can have public services available. But when I see public services being ignored in favor of cuck hand outs I have a problem with that yes.
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>>84466680
How am I baiting you? US government has recognized that they took Native American land and so set up reservations of land they don't own and you don't pay taxes for in the slightest. What is your deal here? Are you honestly arguing that it is unfair that we gave them back literally breadcrumbs of land?
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>>84466715
You didn't prove anything, just said a bunch of wrong shit. We are close to archive mate, don't listen to /pol/ and just go do research on Reconstruction.
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>>84466745
Yet you aren't naming a single thing your tax money actually goes to that is akin to "paying for wrongs committed hundreds of years ago".
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>>84466781
I'm not arguing anything you troll. Also, you seem to be confused on if we never had it or we gave it back. Revise your post.
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>>84466836
Are you autistic? We can debate the semantics of ownership all day. That wasn't the point.

Fuck, you are one stupid clod.
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>>84463171
our courts have been tyrannical since marbury vs madison
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>>84466781
The fact they got anything back is laughable and proves leftist rhetoric is insanity. If we're all equal then why do some of us need special privileges? You give them handouts because you're the one who thinks they're weak and they need them. I don't want them getting handouts because they're as much a part of this country as I am and every bit capable of succeeding. Now que the flaming over muh white privilege. I haven't gotten my white privilege checks in the mail for a long time now so I guess I was cut off
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>>84466701
I expect you to avoid sperging out at a conversation that doesn't make Europeans look that great.
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>>84466885
>We can debate the semantics
>That wasn't the point

>It's their fucking land.

Wewlad.
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>>84466934
WHAT ARE YOU ARGUING???
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>>84466954
I never was. I told you that twice, you moron.
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>>84466917
>recognizing that there was a rich and developed culture in North America that was nearly destroyed, by giving them land you literally took from them
>is a handout
Are you baiting me? Nobody is this autistic.
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>>84466834
Are you trying to pretend the government doesn't hand out millions of dollars in reperation money to natives? Are you trying to imply that the Canadian government isn't as we speak spending over 1 billion dollars on refugees to give them free housing and food? Doesn't it upset you that there are still thousands of homeless people wasting away on your cities streets while your government wipes the asses of other countries?
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>>84466982
Then stop posting?
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>>84466602
>still better to be wrong in something trivial than to be a liberal.
yeah I agree laissez-faire economics is completely absurd and any politician or party who advocates for it should be ridiculed mercilessly
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>>84467014
Usually the person in your position would stop after it was made clear the person the were talking to didn't care, not respond with insults are circular logic.
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>>84466922
Alright I give up. I agreed with you and that's still not enough. This is not and never has been about morals and ethics. You hate yourself for whatever reason and just want everyone else to be brought down to your level so you can feel normal.
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>>84467006
>Are you trying to pretend the government doesn't hand out millions of dollars in reperation money to natives? Are you trying to imply that the Canadian government isn't as we speak spending over 1 billion dollars on refugees to give them free housing and food?
I am literally not bothered by this in the slightest.
>Doesn't it upset you that there are still thousands of homeless people wasting away on your cities streets while your government wipes the asses of other countries?
Global poverty is the lowest its been in human history and while homelessness in the first world is an issue, I recognize that the US and Canada are leading the efforts in eliminating poverty. You reactionary fag.
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>>84467068
You sure do speak for me, huh? Almost as if 4chan is more than one person.
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>>84466990
You're a lost cause man

>play monopoly
>land on boardwalk
>has hotels
>that'll be 2000
>can't afford that
>ok well just give me your red properties
>alright
>land on red properties
>that'll be 750
>THIS WAS MY LAND OMG WHITE PRIVILEGE
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>>84467066
You don't know what circular logic is.
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>>84467149
Sure
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>>84467071
And here's the problem. You wanna help everyone when you can't, I just wanna help the people around me. So if you wanna help everyone be my guest and do it yourself
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>>84466640
natives receive a check (used to receive sugar, flour, wheat and many more things) from the US and Canadian gov. guy who knows nothing about the topic at hand
>>84466405
also that is a big point BLM wants
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>>84467140
This the shittiest analogy I ever read. Here's a better one:
>own boardwalk
>own boardwalk for a dozen turns
>new player shows up "fuck the rules"
>takes boardwalk
>takes the entire board
>"eh, here. You can have a space back"
>faggots like you: "WTF THAT ISN'T FAIR REEEE THEY ARE GIBME DATS!"
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>>84466013
>white people can't farms without niggers
LOL
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>>84467196
You'd make a poor egalitarian. You could start by writing your statesmen or congressmen and protest foreign wars that force people to immigrate in the first place...that your country is responsible for. What work have you done to help spread awareness that foreign wars create refugees?
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>>84467281
>it's your fault greedy sandniggers are escaping thousand of miles to Sweden to get free shit
Ah, finally, my eyes are open
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>>84467199
Good. I'm glad natives get something. How much of a sperg would I be if I had a problem with that? It's not even my own tax money.
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>>84467319
If you can't understand geopolitics and why the current displacement of refugees is chiefly caused by American and European powers destroying their countries, you aren't worth talking too. It's like you aren't interested in long-term solutions here.
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>>84467338
>My own tax money
What did he mean by this?
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>>84467393
I mean, none of our tax money go towards reservations. So again, you haven't named a single example.
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>>84467423
>Government money going to Indians isn't giving them money
Right
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>>84467319
>how dare refugees seek first world nations with better healthcare and opportunity, that welcome them freely??? Don't they know they have to stay in Muslim shitholes!!!?
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>>84467338
here is the problem, name 1 famous native, what have they done with the land, are they happy, 85% of teens kill themselves, i have NEVER seen a fit native. giving them all this stuff has fucked their lives. look up life on a rez. what the governments are doing to them is beyond horrible. that is the problem. plus telling other people how to spend their money?
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>>84466809
Pretty sad when you cant even argue my points and just bring up the "/pol/ boogeyman"

Might I suggest some light reading to enrich yourself since you obviously know nothing about the Civil War:
What Drove the Terrible War? by James M. McPherson
The Memory of the Civil War in American Culture
After the Glory: The Struggles of Black Civil War Veteran Donald R. Shaffer
Mothers of Invention: Women of the Slaveholding South in the American Civil War Drew Gilpin Faust
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>>84467464
>he thinks all the money the government has is from his taxes
That's cute.
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>>84467488
None of this is even remotely an argument and none of your own private money goes to reservations
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>>84467503
So, you couldn't actually directly source some evidence right?
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>>84467507
Where does the money come from, to specifically pay for it?
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>>84467503
>he thinks /pol/ is a boogeyman
I will never understand this dodge. We all literally know /pol/ is not a boogeyman, yet some of you are in such denial about it...why? What does that do for you?
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>>84467466
sure they can seek it, but what about the countries native people? they should always come first. why cant the west help them in their own homes? why cant other prosperous ME counties?
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>>84467640
Who told you nobody is helping natives from their own countries? Literally show me where help is denied to a native of Sweden or Denmark or Germany.
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>>84460383
Just going to chime in and confirm also: We don't know how many died because governments have stymied all efforts to investigate the camps, but it wasn't 6 million, and it probably wasn't even close. Also, it's pretty clear at this point that there were no human gassings at the camp. Everything people believe about the holocaust: that moronic, hate-riddled, delusional "deniers" are running around in society trying to humiliate the children of tortured jews; that there is ample and overwhelming, indisputable evidence for the current historical narrative about Nazis and WWII; that 6 million jews were systematically exterminated through a genocidal policy of Adolf Hitler... none of that is really true.

Governments throughout history have lied to and manipulated their populations to believe historical falsehoods... why would ours be any different? What can one historian, or one scientist, or ten, do against the power of the modern state and mass media institution?
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