This film was depressing as fuck.

>>84443186
>netflix

shibboleth for trash

>>84443186
6/10

no eaty meaty

Why dat rabbit got a butthole on its face

>>84443186
Factory Farming is fucked.

Not only from an ethical standpoint, but also from the fact it's super fucking unhygienic and super polluting and shit.

I love that Governments have classified taking photos of Factory Farms is "Eco-Terrorism".

Not even vegan or vegetarian, but I do hope one day fake/lab meat does become affordable. Animals are sentient as much as people don't want to believe it and animals such as pigs actually have individual self awareness.

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was it rape?

>>84443342
Who gives a shit. I'd factory farm people

>>84443342
Lmao. Legit don't give a shit. I like meat and don't care how it happens.

>>84443525
This. These animals would not exist if not for us. We giveth and we takteth away. We are God to them.

The hippo was disgusting and annoyed the fuck out of me. The ugly little chink screaming its retarded name all the time was also annoying.

Every character was very fucking irritating.

>>84443548
dunno bout you but i'd rather not exist than live a short life of shit

>>84443597
if an animal only knows suffering, what difference does it make to the animal?

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>>84443548
Do you think God stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created?

>>84443658
implying that makes suffering okay

>>84443365
The bull did nothing wrong.

>>84443342
Then you have the problem of abundant domesticated livestock and what to do with it.

>>84443342
'fake' meat is affordable and pretty easily found in most major grocery stores. do something about it instead of hoping

>>84443718
implying it doesn't.

do you think an animal is sitting in its pen dreaming about the animals that are running free and thinking "maaaaan we should be out there an' shiiiit".

No, actually it is wondering when food is coming again (because unlike wild animals, their food is always going to come) and wondering if it could have sex with that female animal over there, or maybe it wants to try and find a spot with the shade.

It's a fucking animal. It is dumber than you, shockingly.

>>84443365
>The mirandos are equivalent to Clinton
>propagate bulls to rape the females
What did Bong Ripper mean by this?

>>84443788
no shit it's dumber than me. still doesn't make suffering okay

>>84443892
Oh my God, just grow up. Suffering is a part of the human experience. Why should the animals be spared?

>>84443933
LOL

>>84443720
You sound like my wife.

>>84443991
You know I'm right. Suck that dick.

>>84443186
Why does the Luck Dragon look all fucked?

>>84443892
>WAAAAAAAAA DATS RIGHT YOUSE KNOWS IM RIGHT DATS RIGHT


You wouldn't give 20years of your life to save 10 billion chickens would you

>>84443933
>Animals should suffer even though they do none of the shit humans do to deserve that suffering

Neck yourself, cunt

>>84443744
Slaughter the majority of them for their meat, of course, and keep the remaining animals as a diverse gene pool to draw from in case of any problems down the line.

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>>84443365
Very healthy!

>>84443186
>OMG MUH POOR FARMING ANIMALS!
>proceeds to hunt whales

>>84444123
Who cares whether or not they "should" suffer? I like paying $3 for a pound of chicken. It tastes the same to me whether or not it "suffered". Take it up with someone who cares.

>>84443788
>dumb animals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3VX8VU9kI

>>84444218
Apparently meat that was well treated taste better, at least that's the principle behind gourmet meat like the Kobe steaks.

>>84444258
Is that a chicken? A cow? A pig?

>>84444268
>at least that's the principle behind gourmet meat like the Kobe steaks.
Literally a scam pulling the wool over gaijin eyes.

>>84443365

Remimded me of this : https://nhentai.net/g/123442/

>>84444198
>koreans
>hunting whales
>hunting equivalent to factory farming
Sweetie, you're retarded.

>>84444303
Don't know people that eat it says it's damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRRIjOkzHPM

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>>84443342
>Animals are sentient as much as people don't want to believe it and animals such as pigs actually have individual self awareness.

>>84444313
hunting is morally worse

>>84444394
>individual self awareness.

My jumping spiders have that.

Animals can have comedic timing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOOYWTNU47Q

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Can we talk about the movie at all?

>>84444394
And millions of human beings starve to death or are murdered by criminals, terrorists, and governments.

Your point?

If you eat meat you're literally a trash human being that should not reproduce

>>84444657
funny how the language barrier seemed to help rather then get in the way of communication

Why did the bull pig look deformed?

There where plenty of normal looking ones in the slaughter fields

>>84443788
whoa dude lmao you should be a philosopher or something

>>84443342
animals are not sentinent anon, maybe whales, elephants and most primates, but not livestock. They deserve better conditions though, extensive farming is a valid option for most livestock. Anyway, if we eradicate farming in general we have this problem>>84443744

>>84444303
whoa the person who gets off on animal suffering is japanese, who would have guessed?

>>84444727
All the other animals have the free will to eat meat. Why should humans be limited? You dont judge any other animal for its food choices. Why do you judge your fellow man? Its only wrong when humans do it? So humans are special why?

>>84444777
You're not going to use some weak little cuck pig to breed with your best super pig.

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>>84444854
pigs are objectively self aware
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test

>>84444880
>dude we should let animals decide whats ethical and follow their example lmao

also factory farming is way worse than anything that occurs in nature

>>84444918
Yes, the obvious self awareness of humans has led to the elimination of war and violence amongst humans.

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>>84444198
>>84444313
Don't forget doggos

>>84444989
>>84444854
>animals are not sentinent anon, maybe whales, elephants and most primates, but not livestock

this is very demonstrably false was my only point

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Why didnt they use an insemination rod for okja like real farmers do with cows? They didnt have to have her get fucked and it would probably have been easier for everyone

>>84444968
Too much subjectivity for me.

You dont get to decide for anyone else what's ethical. We are just animals. We piss and shit and die like all the other animals. If there are sentient animals it only proves the point. Sentience doesn't stop pigs from eating meat, nor does it stop the other apes from killing each other with violence.

Animals would show you no pity if they could, you are a cuck if you feel bad for them

>>84445076
if you unironically believe this I hope you're at least consistent and have no problem with murder, eating babies etc. because some animals do it

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>>84445051
I dunno it looked like it was already pretty easy for everyone except Okja. Also I'm pretty sure Gyllenhaal was only doing it because he was a pervert who masturbates to pig fucking, not for scientific reasons.

>>84444918
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test
Pigs are smart like a dog, but I'm not sure if self aware. Their meat is supposedly the most similar to ours, so it unsettling to eat it anyway (but it's so delicious)

>>84445042
My point here >>84444989
Is that humans are sentient and that doesn't stop them from killing each other and yet they are upset about eating other animals. Its illogical. If there was no more murder and terrorism and state sanctioned violence and war then maybe there would be more logic to protecting frogs and pigs or whatever from being killed. Bit our self awareness doesn't even stop us from killing each other.

>>84445203
murder and terrorism are recognized as bad though, the fact violence exists in the world doesn't give you a free pass to ignore it

>>84445203
That would be emphathy, not self awareness.
But you can yet be self aware and a sadistic sonofabitch.
And then it's the feelings you have to leave aside when killing livestock to eat, or even pull the lettuce you've been caring for all season. Plants feel too, through are not as relatable as animals.

>>84444279
looking forward to back to school lil guy?

>>84445134
Still you are looking at it backwards. Its not that things are ok because animals do it. Things are neither ok, nor not-ok because animals do it. And we are just animals. Its up to each of us to determine what we will eat and why. We have free will. Your ethical cosmology of the universe has no bearing on my ethical construction of the physical reality we occupy. Nor do your ethical qualms effect the lion or panda bear, or your beloved pets who would eat each other as well. We are just as free to eat what we like as any other animal. No subjective mental state or understanding can change that.

What was the moral of the story?

Cried like a little bitch, what a real tear jerker.

>that scene at the end where the two parents let their young calf escape

>>84445291
But focusing on violence towards animals when we haven't even stopped killing each other is more insipid and banal. Human suffering will always matter more to humans that dolphin suffering. Until we have such a time as an abundance of resources and a lack of human suffering to address.

>>84445367
Its funny how starving people in war torn ravaged lands dont seem upset about eating a cow or pig when the next day they could be killed by revel troops and thier wife and daughters raped and murdered. And I am sure they would be on your side with your abundance of concern for the well being of their dinner.

>>84445484
>>84445554
Why is feigned empathy toward other humans always the default response in this conversation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kTwnO-cOeg

As someone who spent time on a farm. Cows and shit do actually have emotions and different personalities and such. They're dumb as fuck. But they're sentient.

One cow I remember seemed to really like music.

The film isn't really about the meat industry (though that is obviously a part), it's really about how ethical consumption under Capitalism is a sham and companies like say Apple or whatever, who do like "APPLE CELEBRATES GAY/TRANSGENDER PRIDE MONTH", behind the scenes, still are exploiting the fuck out of people, have workers in sweatshops and shit.

The ethical capitalism was a sham, and in the end, it turned out to fall apart anyway and returned old school baron capitalism, which works because people don't care about morality and ethics when things are cheap and mass exploitation is the way to get things cheap.

>>84446074
huh that makes sense

>>84444861
You're getting your asians confused.

>>84445415
Watch the movie and figure it out for yourself.

I don't understand any of you at all. How can we be inhumane? We are human. Everything we do is humanity itself. It is the vegan and animals sympathizers who are the inhumane one. All of these animal rights only compose a small human population; how can any of you call the rest of the world inhuman?

>>84446319
If you want to play the semantics game, the correct word to use would be immoral.

>retards who are only capable of interpreting something on the surface level still think this movie is about veganism

>>84443186
This movie takes place in the USA, right?

>>84446683
nope south korea then seoul,she never makes it toward americans soil

>retards trying to find depth in a netflix flick only because is made by koreans

>>84445203

>other people are bad so that excuses me

lol

>>84446728
Did you stop watching the movie twenty minutes in or something?

>>84446728
Retard.

>>84443186

It was kinda weird how they just threw away the useless Mirando character. she had no arc at all.

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>>84446857
She was the scapegoat all along, you imbecile. Pic related.

>>84443186
>genetically altered super pig

What

>>84447163

What did they mean by this?

>>84447481
What part of it are you not understanding?

>>84445155

Neither pigs nor dogs are self aware.

As far as i know it's limited to Chimps, bonobos, dolphins and magpies.

>>84447163
purekino

Is Tilda Swinton the ugliest actress in history?

>>84448619
yes

What's with all the Jewish music tho?

>>84448619
She's the prettiest actor.

>>84446728
Kek

>>84448619
She is oddly very attractive

>>84443365
post a webm

>it's a vegetarian propaganda!
And The Host was about a giant monster, right? It's weird how so many people (including the critics) don't see the obvious message in Bong's films.

>>84449094
Snowpiercer was about trains being bad.

>>84443664

underrated

>Netflix cannot be ki-

>>84448619
shut the fuck up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi1r8B5INfU

She's fucking sexy as hell.

>>84445148
Those tragic glasses make him look like Retarded Teddy Roosevelt.

Also someone needs to make a horror movie from the animals POV, it would be possibly really good and make people think, you could have brutal kills and because it was animals it would make people legitimately angry and sick to their stomachs and bring back what horror was initially about, at least slasher.

All of the shit they would do in China would happen to our lead characters. The dogs or pigs or whatever would have voices and get to sound just like slasher movie teen characters so it would be meta and we'd spare no expense showing them get dismembered and throat slashed and burned in oil. If I has a director did not get death threats I would not consider my animal slasher flick a success.

>>84449341
God i wish that were me

>>84444854
Pigs are smarter than a lot of people I know (including our president)

>>84445415
There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism.

>>84449672
AHAHAHAHAH!

>>84449249
It's literally about Marx's theory of history.

>>84449740
Bong is a socialist with heavy anti-American bias. It's in all of his movies. He was blacklisted by the Korean government during the presidency of Park Geun-hye.

>>84449898
Is The Host anti-capitalist as well? I haven't watched it yet.

>>84449955
The Host is mostly anti-American.

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>>84444258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQMP74-XziI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1XW7_tFwec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em40mVYzUEA

>>84444617
but the hunters, plunders don't care if that species dies out. Farming them keeps them safe from extinction

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>>84443186
tfw at the end where the pig pushed its baby through the fence

wtf I'm a vegan now

>>84443186
never gonna watch it, do they butcher the pig hippo thing in the end? its ugly as shit and i dont care if uggo animals get the knife

>>84447666
Lucy mirando = Hilary Clinton, liberal Ceo, hypocritical, still only cares about profits just with a liberal vaneer

Black guy = Obama, works for both Lucy and Nancy, but is ultimately loyal to Nancy. Goes along with Lucy to do PR for feel good causes

Nancy Mirando = Vested intrests Monsanto, Pharmaceuticals whatever. Ultimately usurps power in the end, still only cares about profits and bottom line, but without bullshit PR.

tl;dr Apple/Monsanto = same shit, and Neoliberals are still only beholden to vested interests

>>84444444

>>84451348
Fuck off retard, it's a cgi creation.

the super pigs are extremely intelligent, that stunt with the rope and the log at the start was top tier problem solving. animals that intelligent shouldnt be eaten desu

besides that anyway, is farming them even viable when they take 10 fucking years to mature? and mija said okjas metabolism was super high so it must consume a shit load of food too

>>84451851
no shit sherlock, how does that change whether they kill it in the movie or not??

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>>84443186

So not-PETA are the good guys?
The movie was well made and enjoyable but fuck the message

>>84443578
okjaaaa

>>84452684
not peta had their own agendas, a lot of them were pompous, some were good and most self-serving

this movie isn't a black and white movie despite what people think, stop thinking like someone from peta

it just shows the complex relationship that we have with animals, we eat some, love others

>>84452684
t. brainlet /pol/cuck

>>84453159
t. some newfag with 0 rare Albertos

>>84449094

The entire point of the movie is not MEAT IS BAD MKAY, though the meat industry still gets a jab. It's about capitalism and the lies to get what you want, plus the shitty way we treat the animals we consume

>>84453158

It's a mix of both. Not-Peta have good intentions but questionable methods and some in it for themselves. The CEO is a bitch but desperately wanted to undo the bad image upon the company by her asshole dad, while her sister is even worse

And then there's not-Steve Irwin who sold his soul years ago and is still struggling with the guilt

i wish jakes character got more screentime

>>84443186

I want to fuck the pig thing. I mean, damn that ass...

>>84443342
Wasn't the factory farm scene conveying the exact opposite of what you're writing?

It's clearly shown that Okja was put through all of its misery due to ethical grandstanding from a business that didn't run for profit but rather to satisfy some delusional morale altruism.

All that was needed was a reasonable exchange of goods and services and Okja was free. The one difference is that after that scene we are reminded that the super pigs are intelligent and have the capacity for empathy. But whatever.

>>84443186
You n ow realize chickens, cows and pigs are capable of great empathy and intelligence greater or equal to dogs.

You now realize they develop emotional attachment, hierarchial structures, and family units.

You now have an awareness that when you go to seaworld you are watching the equivalent (intelligence wise) of 9 year old children swimming on their backs and playing with balls .
The magic hippo in this movie is all of these maligned and oppressed animals put together. this is a masterpiece.

>>84443186
Well directed and shit but It was fucking straight up hippie propaganda. Who the hell is against GMOs? the right and left both want it. What the fuck are we suppose to do? Not eat meat? The Friendo gun is the most humane way to kill animals, do we cut them up like Jews and Muslims to make them kosher and halal? Also it makes pieces of meat look evil and cruel, like the fuckers have never went to a fucking open air market. The acting was also really inconsistent, some acted like normal humans while some actors were caricatures like Jake Gyllenhal and the white squeaky assistant. It also makes any kind of security force look evil, near the end security came because Okja was rampaging but it was shot in a way that it's a bunch of police and soldiers abusing rioters. Lastly it was kinda diversity crap like the sikh guy throwing a beer at Jake.

>>84443578
neck yourself cuck

>It's a Jake jerks off to super-pig rape porn episode

If offered for free there is no one who would pick a factory farmed piece of meat versus a free range one, unless said person is brain dead.

My subjective opinion is that it also tastes better. Intuitively I would imagine it is healthier for you in the long run.

The only question is, at what price point would it take for people to switch over? How much tastier does it need to be to make up for the difference in price?

>>84444444

How much of that Glenn guy from Walking Dead is in this?

>>84457031
>Who the hell is against GMOs?

Do you live in a bubble? Lots of people are against it both right and left.

Personally I am not against the idea but the fact its nearly monopolized is a huge problem.

>Lastly it was kinda diversity crap

You've never been to New York before have you?

>>84457559
I have been to new York it's diverse but it's Netflix who is really big into diversity crap and it's a big statement to make a minority do something.
I haven't been to /tv/ in a while but has this place been taken over by leftists like what happened to /co/?

>>84457853
>has this place been taken over by leftists like what happened to /co/

lol

I am having bacon tonight

>>84449422
>>make people think
>>animals with voices
It would only prop up the fantasy that animals have inner mental lives like humans.

>>84443744
Not raping animals to breed them for more meat would probably cut down the number of animals around.

>>84446803
This tbqh. Why would you waste your time watching this trash instead of Captain Avengers of the Galaxy 14?

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What if I REALLY like meat, guys?
I feel legit sorry for the animals because they treat them like shit and they suffer but I can't really hunt cows or raise them and me not eating the delicious steaks won't change anything

>>84458130
Who says they don't?

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>>84443436
>>84443525
You have to be 18 to use this site

>>84444989
>>84445203
The argument that people are self aware and still kill each other so it's ok to put other animals along with self aware animals in horrific living conditions before brutally killing them with no remorse or care is incredibly stupid. How about we should do better because we can and because it's the right thing to do? Stop being a gutless worm

>>84444668
What is your point?

>>84443788
>They're dumb so we can treat them like shit
I can't wait for you to have stupid kids so the world can try out that philosophy on them

>Animals in the wilderness face predators/starvation/danger
>Woah dude woah every living being deserves to never suffer woah we should keep farm animals in a perfect utopian conditions
>Woah what do you mean just buy meat from the farmer, that's expensive

Neck yourselves

>>84459272
>>Woah dude woah every living being deserves to never suffer woah we should keep farm animals in a perfect utopian conditions

No one argued that you fucking retarded braindead strawman cuck.

Kill yourself.

>>84458722
Just eat chicken and fish. Cows and pigs are too smart and friendly to eat.

>People can barely spare some empathy to their fellow man
>But muh anymals so sad

>>84459272
There's quite a big difference between hunting your own food and relying on what basically amounts to an industrial holocaust in order to get really shitty meat onto your plate.

>>84459391
I would kill and eat DC fans. They're probably too bitter tasting though.