DCEU thread

>>84441609
Based Snyder the prophet we don't deserve.

>>84441609
thats pretty neat actually

>the space man
>the ambassador
>the knight

>tfw we are finally going to see bruce/clark bromance on screen

>>84441609
Apollo, Athena, and Hades.

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>>84441878
Maybe in JL 2. We're getting Bruce and Arthur bromance first.

>>84441985
You're probably right. but hopefully it ends with them forming the justice league with a nice snyder kino shot.

>>84441609
Getting reall concerned about Justice League 2bh

>>84441985
>Driving towards oncoming enemy
>Jumps forward anyway

Fucking drunk

>>84441985
>>84442074
Looking at webm makes me worried how Joss is going to ruin this.

>>84441609
Ungrateful women, Batman should have left them with the human trafficker

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>>84441985
That's what Snyder is aiming for.

>>84442117
can you really buy women in America?

>>84442434
Yes

>>84442599
Nice try FBI

november is still far away

btw we will be getting a new trailer in comic con

Interesting
If I go hunting am I going to find you, capetourist?

>>84441609
>worshiped
>adored
>feared
Who does this? I surely don't.

>>84442836
by the people in the dc universe you dense marvelkid

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he better show up in a sequel

Recommended watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-k-tQxJv8o

An effective summation of the philosophical difference between BvS and Civil War (and to some extent DC and Marvel)

How civil war treats the world and people in it as background fodder despite the movie pertaining to be about the effect of Heroes on the world, unlike BvS which develops that theme through actually looking at the world and people in it and how they view or are effected by the heroes

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>>84441609
THE DCEU KINO IS DEAD, BURY IT! CONSIDER THIS MERCY

>>84444525
But the DCEU has made more money in a much shorter time compared to marvel and won more prestigious awards

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Zack King Snyder

>>84444383
Marvel portrays a cartoon world where the world exists to fill the need of superheroes while Snyder portrays a world where superheroes have to adapt and navigate through a world that exists independent of those heroes.

>>84441609
The Holy Trinity of DC are actually a reflection of the most popular human religious archetypes.

Superman is your sun-god jesus.
Wonder Woman is your violently sexual earth mother huntress.
Batman is your bisexual moon intellect who also assumes the masculine hunter.

>>84445085

This guy knows what's up. Superman has aspects of the ideal enlightenment Renascence man as well.

I loved BvS but I know whedon is gonna cuck us on JL. What's worse is that we will see a spectre of what based Zach intended

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>>84445227
Snyder's vision is too bold for the Marvelized base of critics and fanboys. I think BvS is going to end as the peak of this now creatively dead genre. Geoff Johns and Whedon are bad news to me. Very bad news.

>>84445310
Fucking whedon man. Literally nobody disliked the score for BvS. He probably thought XL is too dark. Fucking Danny elfman playing a flute

>>84441812
>the awesome
>the gay
>the guy with no ears

>>84445377
Yeah Im seriously bummed that we wont be hearing a Junkie XL Justice League score.

>>84445377
Elfman is also completely wasted under TV Josh.

>>84441609
>god
>friend
>creepy neighbor

>>84442110
You can't ruin what's already shit.

>>84441609
ok this really made me think..

>>84445085
This is what DCucks actually want to believe

>>84446159
Nah it's actually real.
It wasn't consciously done until Grant Morrison got a hold of it though.

>>84441985
The absolute state of that webm. It's like someone's dad was asked to make a scene that the kids would think was cool and that's what he came up with.

>>84444906
>invasion of new york
>75 dead
>they got evacuated right away guys!

Fuck this shit

>>84441609
admired like the Father
adored like the Son
feared like the holy Ghost

Imagine being a Marvel fan where your movies are so bland and forgettable you spend your days in these threads instead.

>>84447623
But Superman is supposed to be Jesus, not WW!

>>84441609
Best Batman.

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>>84441985
>they made Harley Quinn a cultural icon last year
>they made Wonder Woman a cultural icon this year
>they are going to make fucking Aquaman a normie icon come november
Based

>>84445377
The score was decent.
The use of the score was atrocious, namely the use of WWs theme for everything.

>>84441985
artehouse

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>>84448932
>tfw no longer have to explain what Aquaman does aside from "talks to fish"

>>84441609

I thought that was the asian girl from Gran Torino.

Then I thought I was just being racist.

Then I googled it and it actually is her.

>>84448829
How can anyone think this is poorly done.

>>84448829
fuck the flick but goddamn batman looks great dressed like this..

its a shame the whole movie wasnt set in this universe.

>>84446340
I'm a dad. I think it's cool. Fuck off to reddit, numale.

>>84448473
WW was born on Earth like Jesus.

>>84449882
Then what do we do with all the Superman/Jesus imagery Snyder has been shoving down our throats for two movies?

>>84448829
what the fuck are those flying things?

>>84444444

>>84449532
Wait two films.

That is if Snyder is developing the story.

>>84449927
I bet anybody who's not a big comic book fan walked out of the movie wondering that. And who that Mexican looking dude that came out of the screen was too. And what the fuck did all that shit have to do with the rest of the movie.

>>84450078
I havent seen the movie. Im just curious what they are

>>84449917
Well what do we do with all this Jesus is God imagery the catholic church has been shoving down out throats for 2k years?

Superman is God the father
WW is the son (daughter)
Batman is the ghost

Its a trinity. I'm not sure how it holds up. I think the Marvel Universe is shit. I'm not liking the DC universe any better. I think the DC characters work better on film with separate non intersecting mythology and stories. They can have Justice League shit on paper comics but let them shine alone. Especially Superman. He deserved a full 3 movie treatment with an individual story arc and content as rich and fulfilling as the Dark Knight series was for Bat fans. Then when that's done you cab have your DC universe mix-em-up shit show.

>>84450078
>And what the fuck did all that shit have to do with the rest of the movie.
You know that talk about "if there's a 1% chance of superman being evil we must take it as sure thing"? This is why

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>>84441609

>>84450144
Parademons that also attack Superman's minions? And some Latino looking guy coming out of the screen to give Bruce some criptic warning?
I mean, the nightmare was pretty redundant and unnecessary during the whole first half, but it made sense as to why was it included. But everything that happens after the parademons show up makes no sense whatsoever.

>>84450170
shouldnt superman be fat since he has never really exerted much energy on earth. all earthling exercise would do nothing for him

>>84450139
>Superman is God the father
But if that's the case, then why did Snyder include it as a subsitute of Jesus in all the religious imagery he mimicked?

>>84450132
They're parademons, creatures at the orders of Darkseid, the big bad from DC.

>>84447623
Superman is the Son
Jonathan Kent is the Father
Jor-El is the Holy Ghost

>>84448829
>lets run up to batman and flail around till he decides to do something
looks fake as fuck

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>>84441609
>tfw Matt Reeves forgets to expand on the horror elements of Batman

>>84451000
They wanted him alive.

>>84446854
Holy shit it's real

>>84450230
They're not attacking his minions. They're scooping up the dead for "processing."

>>84445434
Junkie XL is still listed as a music credit for the project on IMDB, at least last I looked. I have a feeling he'll still have a presence in the film.

I think we're going to find out that metahumans have less to do with genetics and a lot more to do with metaphysics. I think that's part of what Lex learned from the scoutship, and part of what the Enchantress was talking about.

>>84451128
alright buddy, better not hit him then
>>84451484
>metaphysics
is that a thing in the DC universe?

Let's be honest, most of the time in comics Wonder Woman is irrelevant as fuck, even when they're pushing this Trinity sorta of bullshit. She's just there to act haughty and cold, and violent, while also attempting to get Superman all hyped up on the belief that he's some sorta god and with it tempt him into using his power to do some real damage with the excuse that anything he wishes to do is automatically morally right because of who he is. With Batman usually having to tell her off and remind Superman that he's not above humanity, specially because Batman can kick his ass if he ever tries to chimp out as a reminder.

Basically, she's usually portrayed as the bitch who's there to create relationship drama between Superman and Batman.

>>84451646
What kind of shit comics have you been reading? Geoff Johns New52 Justice League?

>>84451646

That only happen in comics centered around Superman which happen to have all three (like Kingdom Come). Those really have Wonder Woman acting as some sort of Lady Macbeth. There's nothing adoring about her. She's a mean bitch that in the end is put in her place by Superman (usually using his dick).

But in stories centered around the whole team, which are less about wanking Superman and more about the whole team and their dynamic, that usually doesn't happen.

>>84451531
>is that a thing in the DC universe?
It's probably going to be less about genetics and "scientific" explanations and more something involving actual magic.

>>84451808

There are tons of example like that, including the New 52 runs of Justice League and Superman/Wonder Woman. For example Kingdom Come, like >>84451818 remembered, or Dawyn Cooke's DC: The New Frontier (or the animated movie Justice League: The New Frontier), or Frank Miller's DKR series, or even some of Wonder Woman own solo runs.

>>84451872
That really is an oversimplification of Kingdom Come, though. It ignores context. None of the trinity was either perfectly in the right *or* perfectly in the wrong.

>>84451960
Wonder Woman was a major bitch in Kingdom Come and nearly got all superheroes killed with her bloodlust and incompetence.

Something tells me that aspect of WW is going to be lost with DCEU's safer tone.

>>84452031
>Something tells me that aspect of WW is going to be lost with DCEU's safer tone.
And it's good because it's the worst version of WW. Any of the good ones aren't like that.
And yes, she was kind of a bitch in KC but that's because Waid, like Johns, doesn't know how to write female characters.

>>84452113
IMO that's the most accurate way to write them.

>>84452031
Diana wasn't totally wrong in KC. Drastic times *do* call for drastic measures, and I'd say superhuman "gangs" warring over turf counts as drastic. Maybe if Supes had let her off the leash earlier, a couple of good "examples" would have served to bring others more in line.

There was no time for Clark's kinder, gentler approach, because an entire baby boom of "heroes" grew up without him there to lead by example, and when your example is no longer enough, you're left with no choice but to face your opponents on their level. War is and always will remain the final diplomacy.

Maybe if he'd listened to Diana more, it would have ultimately cost fewer lives.

>>84452177
Of course you do. You're a manchild like Waid who probably throws tantrums like he does.

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>>84450170

>>84450170
Superman jacked as fuck.

>>84452373
Holy crap. It really is bottomless, isn't it?

>>84445085
>Superman is your sun-god jesus.
Doubtful since Jews hate Jesus hard af and Superman was created by Jews.

>>84452258
>>84451960

You're both wrong. Kingdom Come is basically the story of everything going to shit once Superman ins't there anymore to show people how it is done. You can see that every hero, be them the new bastards led by Magog's shitty example or the established ones left cold by Superman, had let their powers go into their heads and were pretty much acting as dictators. The new ones fighting among themselves over turfs and the old ones ruling their cities with an iron grip. Even Batman, who was technically only human, had lost his shit.

Diana was there basically to force and manipulate Superman into action, but her kind of "action" which was extreme one, because she had become disgraced in the eyes of her people for failing to bring peace to Man's World in all her time and was lived about it, and so she wanted to change things around by force and quickly, but the only thing she did was escalate the situation, and the more things escalated the more extreme she'd get. Creating the unsustainable cycle that ended in the story tragedy.
So she was decidedly in the wrong. She's told this by Superman (after he was sucked into her plans) and by a Batman that was shamed into action by Superman. Because Mark Waid thought that a character who's a warrior that war in the name of peace and love is stupid. So after being told several times by the people closest to her how her people's way is stupid and seeing the ugly result of her stupidity she finally calms down and decide to live the rest of her life teaching the new heroes how to not be as stupid as her and playing the role of a dead woman for her new husband.

>>84441609
Wondy is the most reassuring.

>>84442434

Human trafficking occurs all over the world

>>84449100

In BvS? They use it like once.

>>84452791
>superhero characters stay faithful to their creation

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>>84441985
Ok I know this gets thrown out a lot but this looks like a video game level.

There's a lot of negative connotations immediately perceived when someone says that, so let me try to break it down and know I'm just trying to be objective:

>Non-fiction, fantasy subject matter
>Something fantastic with little regard to physics is taking place on screen
>Characters not wearing normal clothes and doing something extraordinary
>The entire backround and a majority of the foreground is not real, it's CG

Not to say this is bad, but the last point is what really sticks out to where it may feel like you're not watching a movie which is what people may notice and not like.

What I can say with certainty that is shit is the fucking colors holy shit. It's blue, orange and shadows and literally nothing else. You don't even what aquaman is fighting or even the color of his armor.
Maybe if change the scene to where its not another apocaylpse, urban battlefield, they can have more freedoms with colors.

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Does the fact that nobody on 4chan appears to have been talking about how Wonder Woman is literally Third Wave Feminism: The Film prove that most of people on here who complain about feminism or feminazis at any given opportunity don't actually know what it is they're rallying against outside of a blinkered preconceived notion of what Feminism actually is without any actual basis in research or even general knowledge?

>>84453949
It's probably due to the fact that enjoyable movies always overcome stale bait.

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>>84452791
The eventual coming of the Messiah is literally a basic and fundamental part of Judaism you fucking moron. They just don't think that Jesus was actually the messiah himself. So yes, Jewish creators could have indeed intended Superman to be a messiah figure.

>>84442102
He seems to propel himself with enough force to move approximately twice as fast as the car. Why is it not wrecked should be your real question.

>>84453172
That's sound. It still doesn't speak to the fact that his absence was the underlying cause. I'm not saying he was wrong to step away when he saw humanity embrace a new kind of "hero," but he was no more blameless than the rest of them. He lost touch with humanity and it cost him his judgement.

>>84442154
quip-fuckin-tastic

>>84441985
>those retarded jump physics
kill me now I can never enjoy action film again

>>84454124
Vectored force, faggot.

>>84454212
how about you write it in notation
>implying force isn't always a vector.
>what is a newtonian plane

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>>84441985
You know how in the Star Wars prequels everything has a weird enclosed airless feel because most of the background was green/blue screen?

This film.

>>84454247
Let x= angle with the x plane
X component: f*cos(x)
Y component: f*sin(x)

Given that he appears to be traveling on roughly a 45-degree trajectory and his weight is somewhere upwards of 200 lbs., and his velocity doesn't appear to be much more than 15-20 mph faster than the car, there's not enough force there to do much more than make it squat on its suspension.

>>84450914
Absolutely KINO!

>>84454463
Depends on how much acceleration he will be able to generate. We can safely assume that he is moving in projectile motion, therefore the only force acting on him is that of gravity.
Also
>using imperial systems.
absolute pleb

>>84441609
Its almost like they based it on some sort of comic where these characters basic function in society is just that, hmm really make the neuron fire.

>>84446854
Heroes actually doing their job... go figure

>>84441985
>AQUAman
>he flies

>>84449927
I think it's some kind of pokemon

>>84453949
It was really forgettable. What is there to say? Even SS is more fun to talk about.

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Let's talk about the Unholy Trinity. Here's our False Prophet.

>>84454903
Zod as satan/ lucifer
Doomsday as the anti christ

>>84455108
Or is it Darkseid as Lucifer and possessed/impersonated Clark as the Antichrist?

wtf never knew DCEU threads could be so comfy

>>84455459
Welcome, brother!

Comfy threads are kind of the norm. Even the arguments stay civil by chan standards.

>>84445377
Why did they go with Whedon?. Did they literally go to boxofficemojo and saw that the Avengers made a lot of money and it's basically also a superhero team movie so it has to be the same thing?
I'm not really sure who I'd pick to replace Snyder. His visual style is kind of unique, but Whedon has no style. Everything loks like it's on a soundstage or TNG Enterprise bridge set.
I can't even process what BvS would've looked if Whedon directed it. And I don't mean the fucking dialogue. I know any dramtic tension would be fucked by a joke, but visually. i can only imagine... cheaper.

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>>84455166
>Or is it Darkseid as Lucifer

Well he is the big baddie.

Sometimes I wish DC adapts a New Gods movie but I doubt causals would care enough to see it in theaters unless all the characters quip.

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>>84455709
I don't know, but word is that Snyder hand-picked him. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

>>84455709
As long as the cinematographer remains the same, hopefully it won't be that drastic a change. From what I understand, Whedon's basically just wrapping up and shooting some pickups.

Will Superman be more like himself in this next capeshit?

>>84455709
Snyder asked Whedon to write some extra additional scenes. I'm imaging these are scenes to do with the group interactions. I doubt they'd reshoot any major action sequences since Jason Momoa has already wrapped up filming reshoots after 1 week.

>>84448473
>>84449882
>>84449917
>>84450139

>Heaven is about to explode cause Satan did some shit
>God puts his only son into a spaceship and launches him to Earth so he can survive the destruction of Heaven


How cooler would the Bible be?

>>84451646
>Let's be honest, most of the time in comics Wonder Woman is irrelevant as fuck, even when they're pushing this Trinity sorta of bullshit.

Pretty much. If she wasn't one of the oldest superheroes out there she'd be mid-tier. As far as brand recognition goes Robin is the third in the Big 3. Fuck even Aquaman has a claim to fame cause at least for decades people made joke about him.
But DC does love it's meta bs where they add "deeper" meaning to something that just sort of happened. Like since they went turbo autistic with censoring their own books in the 50s to the point they were all like sitcoms with capes, some guy with buttravaged OCD came up with the "no kill rule" to explain why Batman and Superman never killed. Now it's part of the fabric of DC just like the Trinity spiel.

>>84455709
>I'm not really sure who I'd pick to replace Snyder
Ben Affleck since he was creatively involved with BvS aswell and knows Terrio and Snyder well.

Whedon reeks of WB execs getting cold feet after nu-male fanboys hated BvS not being kiddy-oriented.

>>84441985
Fuck no, Bats and Supes, forever.
Aquaman is a cunt to everybody.

>>84453949
I watched it, is not annoying with the femnist stuff, is completely harmless.
It really annoyed me more that they got out of their way to show all those black soldiers when we know almst no black took part in WWI

>>84456286
>Whedon reeks of WB execs getting cold feet after nu-male fanboys hated BvS not being kiddy-oriented.

Yeah, it does feels like unnecessary panicked damage control. It doesn't help that everybody thinks these movies should do Avatar numbers, so if they don't completely crush BO records it's apparently a failure.

>>84455709
Whedon has a proven track record of successful and positively recieved capeshit. Theres no one better for a big budget capeshit

>>84450914
General Zod is physical power
The council of ancient of crypton is the political power
Jor-El is the wisdom

Superman is the holy trinity of power made man. That's why he is referred as a god.
He has the power to do and command and the knowledge to know what to do.
That's also why his adoptive father waited for so long before letting him use his power (he wasn't mature enough)

>>84457033
>General Zod is physical power
>The council of ancient of crypton is the political power
>Jor-El is the wisdom
This is a fantastic summation of kryptonian society

/x/ here
The holy trinity is not only Christian, and it has components traceable to almost every religion
However, thanks to some new conceptions:
>Son, mixture of human and god qualities, Taoism defines as Man, the son of heaven and earth, that's Jesus or Superman, the symbol of evolution and hope.
>Father, the Abrahamic figure of wrath that punishes men for their sins, in the old tradition "the fear of God" was a thing, that's Batman
>Holy Ghost, that's the embodiment of feminine
essence in nature which is complementary to the masculine, thats Mother Earth, Gaia, Earth to Taosism, Venus.

>>84457534
Interesting stuff, first time I see the holy ghost refered as female or female like

>>84456615
I can't think of anyone worse save the Russos and James Gunn.

>>84457033
>>84457515
This is how they fall.
As Jor-El tells us the political power in crypton became corrupted and regressive and stopped any advancement of the situation.
They stopped colonilising new worlds (What would have been the works of General Zod) and they did not listen Jor-El when he told them to not harness the energy of the planet.
The three power lost balance so much that Zod tried to attempt a coup and Jor-El stole Cripton's Codex.
He then send his son on earth trying to create there the perfect civilization they could not attain on Crypton.
By being on earth he knew Clark already have the physical power (he is a god).
By infusing himself into the key he Knew he could pass him on his Knowledge.
Therefor the only power Superman lacked, and this is why it's litteraly one of the main theme of Man of steel and BvS, is the political power.
He needs to be seen as a savior, a god, a leader by the humans on earth
That's why his human dad stresses him enough not to use his power, he is not ready, the world is not ready.
And sure enough the fight of metropolis is what caused such a distrust for him by the Normies in diegesis and ironically outside of the diegesis (I.E. the plebs who rated the film badly on IMDB)
Stating that superman is not the superman that they knew, well exactly it was what Snyder wanted. People are just too dumb to understand.
In BvS the same theme continue and the aftermath of the battle of metropolis is expanded and appears Lex Luthor who does nothing but destroy Superman's reputation.
By the end of BvS they beat Lex Luthor and create the new-man : Superman he is finally ready to inspire people (batman is the indicator of this change, even the most distrusting human as seen the light)
That's why Snyder said superman will be lighter in Justice league, it's because by the end of BvS he is finally superman

>>84441609
>orange
>blue
>orange

>>84457792
That's probably because the old Catholic tradition does in fact "suppress" the feminine in favor of a patriarchy and male-only thing. That point I can give to sjws... But for the other traditions it was there, it was a complement, Yin to the Yang. Trinity is supposed to have both complementary genders in it so they can birth the Son, Man or Qi, the interaction of opposing forces creates movement.
Some old forms of "feminism" used to try to rescue the importance of it, but modern "feminism" is as cancerous as what they criticize.

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>>84444383
This video further demonstrates the difference between Snyder's faith to DC superheroes and Disney's faith to theirs.

Snyder is willing to depict the victims and consequences of the superheroes he's portraying because he has enough faith in them that the audience will still end up relating to them and sympathizing with them. Meanwhile Disney is so insecure with its own material that they don't even have the balls to show one civilian dying at the risk of making Cap America hated with the soccer moms.

Snyder shows the ugly truth, and also shows us that these ugly truths will be a part of these superheroes but that also makes their moral fortitude and goodness all that more powerful. Snyder will depict Superman as a demon if he has to so long as it's necessary in order to rebuild Superman as this believable superhero alien, who while he has critics, is still doing the right thing. This makes Superman all the more powerful because it tells us that despite hardships, he will carry on doing the thing he believes in. The world doesn't exist to serve his needs. He has to navigate in a world that at times isn't even sure if it wants him there.

That to me is so much more meaningful than the Avengers quipping in NY while they carefully avoid showing any sort of consequence of death because they fear the audience will be thrown into a state of unease. That is dishonest storytelling and also tells of what little faith Disney has in the superhero genre.

>>84456053
I believe he will be. I think his "death" is going to sort of serve the purpose the extended off-screen "training period" Reeve Superman had.

>>84444383
>>84458478
Also forgot to mention that Civil War is a product of Disney watching BvS trailers and trying to match that 1:1 because they were more focused with damaging BvS's market appeal than making a good story. This is the whole reason Civil War exists. To mimic BvS so the scenes in BvS are made less impactful. Unfortunately for Disney, all it does is display the very opposite, now we are given a source to what happens when you do everything wrong.

>>84457534
>>84458242
There's also some Nietzsche in this... Superman is the übermensch, being the Son, is the evolutionary future of mankind, with the power to save or destroy the world, Jesus is the perfect man of Christianity. Transhumanism made flesh.
I guess these kinds of philosophical gymnastics are the reason why normies won't ever get these movies

watching wonder woman and actually quite like it. never been a fan of live action dc (the animated universe is fucking awesome though)
shes playing a pretty decent part infairness but the script is fucking agony. this is the end of WW 1 for fuck sake every ones having a great time laughs all around.

>>84457534
Fellow /x]-Philemon here. I think the metahumans, magic, and maybe even the gods are going to have a very Richard Keel component. Godly echoes and such.

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>>84450170
>>84441609

> the one thing I will give credit to the makers of the DCEU is how the movies have shown their different personalities so well. These are three very strong willed beings that are going to have to make it work to make the JL work.

>>84458478
Something else that told me the minds behind the MCU didn't have a lot of faith in their material - their reluctance to let the Asgardians truly be gods.

I understand that decision, but it doesn't mean I'm ever going to like it.

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>>84458242
>>84458389
>>84458478
>>84458617
I really REALLY love bvs/mos threads

>>84458242
Has anyone gotten any further word on the Krypton series?

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>>84458548
>because they were more focused with damaging BvS's market appeal than making a good story. This is the whole reason Civil War exists

I once read somewhere that this was Feige's decision after watching the BvS announcement. Ironically hes all over WW's vayjayjay right now on social media.

>>84450170
>the boys became orphans at a young age and were outcasts all their lives
>the woman gets everything handed to her on a silver plate and everyone always likes her and never says anything bad to her shitty attitude
Accurate to real life desu

>>84441609
I really hate how much Superman hates being Superman. The beginning montage should have had Superman be more amiable and inspiring and THEN he gets wigged out by the Mexican worshippers that make him rethink things.

>>84441985
SW prequel tier action scene

>>84441609
>DC thread
>all people do is talk about Marvel

Looks like marvel movies are memorable after all

>>84458903
Why do you think they panicked and did a last-second rental of Spider-Man? The whole film solely exists as a competitive product to downplay BvS's impact. Feige is a cunt hack and it's no surprise he was more obsessed with attacking DC than actually saving his own shitshow Universe for kids. Imagine being so fucking cynical you make a film solely to sabotage another film by copypasting scenes from it from the trailers.

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>>84441609
I think there's legitimate hope for a Nightwing and Robin movie. Damian's my guy, fuck Tim.

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>>84452373

> tfw anons will be finding these for years to come

K-I-N-O

>>84459017
Yeah taking huge royal dumps on Marvel.>>84458478
This thread has effectively debunked the MCU shill arguments in just 150 replies.

>>84458972
Thats more down to pa kent being a terrible father this superman has never quite come to terms with being a saviour and the god worship would fuck with anyones psyche

>>84449927
Parademons. The shock troopers of Darkseid.

>>84459017
I come for the deep bvs/mos analysis which is comfy as fuck. Shitting on the mcu is just icing but not needed or wanted

>>84459046
There's a solid shot of the TDKR Bats take-down of Supes in their fight that I have to stop and admire every time I watch it.

>>84458903
And he announced Captain Marvel right after DC announced WW. It took them almost a decade to finally decide on a female superhero movie.

>>84441609
Make a better (cleaner) image with those headings faggot

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>>84459020

Well, Feige is known for being a ruthless business man. You don't stay at the top that long by being a good boy. He went full Two-face, He's a villain by now. At least DC is trying to switch up the formula a bit, they are risktakers which I can respect more than cookie cutting forgettable movies like Dr. Strange (that one hurt).

>>84458744
too bad no one got snyders vision...

>>84458182
You're memeing but fact is whedons cv (when it comes to serviceable blockbusters) isn't matched

>>84459245
>cookie cutter
I keep hearing this thrown around but if it sells and is overall a fun and well recieved piece of art then it becomes meaningless. There is no incentive to change it

>>84459168
not to discuss non dc material but...
I would have paid to see a black widow origin/trilogy 10 years ago
too dark i suppose

>>84458972
That's solely on the shoulders of Pa and Ma Kent for making Superman so afraid of being Superman.

Now every time he sees someone worshiping him, he fears it'll go downhill. It's part of his character arc to move away from fear of being a hero, and learn how to be one that inspires hope instead of religious fanaticism. At least I think that's where we're going.

>>84459503
"were" being the key word you missed

>>84441985
>Aquaman yells 'Yeah!' before striking against the Parademons
Hopefully JL has a better color palette at some point. BvS needs a razzie for it's cgi.

>>84459620
Name me one superhero film with better CGI than BvS. I'll wait.

>>84459801
>hurr its the best of the worst durr

DCuck mental dissonance

>>84459503
Well it's pretty unfortunate that there was a three-year gap in between movies, with the second one ending in his death, and Justice League likely having him brainwashed for a good portion of it. I get what they're going for but at this point it'll be 2020 by the time he's through this development.

>>84460033
So nothing? Good, then shut the fuck up. And also next time give it a few more posts before you reveal your MCUck shill ass.

>>84459387

>>There is no incentive to change it

on the business side, I agree. On the side of the moviegoer, hell no. There is plenty of incentive to change it.

>>84460082
I'm totally fine with that. Superman shouldn't develop in a cheap moment of epiphany.

>>84460127
Even on the business side, Civil War dropped almost half a billion in BO compared to Avengers. And that was with Spidey, the biggest Marvel superhero after Iron Man. And they still fell short half a billion dollars. Their businesses have saturated, Disney bought Star Wars to keep the wheel going because Marvel has hit its peak long ago. Right now it's all about exploiting the last of this coal mine before everyone gets sick and tired of Cap America's phony face. And then go do the same thing to Star Wars.

>>84460088
>he doesn't like my special interest, autism freindly movie
>he must like the other special interest, autism freindly movie

It must be suffering being a DCuck desu, and while we're at it days of future past had better cgi

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>>84460196
It's ok we believe you. We all believe you. It's ok now. Black Panther is going to be great!

>>84460186
that can be accounted to capeshit fatigue and the fact that the avengers was unique in that it was a first in bringing together universes

>>84459620
the first full trailer didn't have that "Yeah!", somehow I think they dubbed that in to help make that terrible scene less bad

>>84460227
oh you caught me anon how terribly clever of you i guess its back to over anyysing a piece of shit movie with you. You sure showed me.

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>>84460254
>that can be accounted to capeshit fatigue
You mean Marvel fatigue? DC is consistent as fuck. 800-1 billion range for almost all their films. Just admit it, Disney treated Marvel like a coal mine and exploited all it had and then all that remains now is a corpse hanging by threads.

>>84460318
DC movies have been underperforming like crazy though (except WW). BvS should have crossed the billion mark with ease

>>84460318
>>84460254
You don't just drop 500 million like that. Even BvS who was panned by every nu-male critic in the business got just a 100 million from TDK. And this is having every external factor against it. Meanwhile Marvel knows it has seen its best days and all they can do is attack DC aswell hoping they don't gain too much of an upper hand. The only real success story of Marvel as of late is Guardians. And that's barely related to the MCU.

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>>84460254
>capeshit fatigue

kek don't lump DC with your company's greedy mess. DC will still be going stronk long after Thanos has been beating via Dance-off bro.

>>84460442

*beaten

>>84441985
>then Aquaman is never seen again in the DCEU and presumed dead

>>84460318
>Disney treated Marvel like a coal mine and exploited all it had

It's what Disney does.

>>84460318
wait for the reboot with all new actors senpai. you aint seen nothing yet

could diana really beat clark in a fight

>>84460621
She would destroy him in like 30 seconds.

>>84441985
I just enjoy the dynamism of this scene, its only bad and cheesy except for when the batmobile races into view.

>>84453949
Its legit First Wave bro or maybe its so old its Vaporwave, that is to say nobody talks about it because its agreed upon months ago that it had a perfect viewpoint on feminism, which is to say 'women are equal to men or even if they are better men are still engaged and powerful in their own right'. Third Wave is when you begin removing genders entirely and literally don't need no man.

>>84460621
"no"

>>84448829
Works as a big budget Hollywood flick but Kino it is not

>>84460621
She won't even beat Faora.

>>84456080
theyll have shitty quips, whedo is worse than sorkin

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>>84460880
why did you have to remind me of best girl anon

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>>84460621

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>>84460995
thats... incredibly problematic

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>Hey guys, remember us? We're part of DCEU too.

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>>84461102
I will never forget those Harley cosplays.

>>84460621
to the death? no

>>84458617
Yes I meant to imply that when I talked about the Nu-male, the superman, the Nietzschean ideal
Which is even more relevant in this post-religion society

>>84461283
Only good thing to come out of that shit

Why is that whenever Superman is saving people, he always seems to be completely bored out of his mind, like he was wishing to be elsewhere?

>>84460880
>She won't even beat Faora.
>even
>implying Faora was less than Superman

Nigger, she was beating the everloving shit out of Superman and he could barely land a punch on her. At full power she probably could do even better than Zod, by virtue of being younger and more bloodthirsty.

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>>84448829

>>84460880
>>84460956
>>84461865
Could they bring her back? I mean technically she's not dead.

>>84461985
God i hope so

>>84461283
I have not yet had my fill.

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>tfw always been a DCEU fan and people are finally coming around and having comfy DCEU threads

God 2016 was hell for anyone who enjoyed BvS

>>84462084
in the future cucks will see it for the masterpiece it really is and unabashedly lie about their original opinions of it... I'm not sure how i feel about that desu

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>>84462084
Yeah, it's not like you could just have your own opinion and live your life or anything.

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Who's going to complete the holy trinity of kino directors in the DCEU?

>>84459620
its fucking snyder, im so annoyed by his godamn night fight scenes. Man of steel looked fucking good in the day time, i have no idea why hes so obsessed with making everything taking place at night since BvS even in the justice league trailer its all at night

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>>84462084
They were the dark times. I look back and still can't imagine the critic response. It's so completely nonsensical and dishonest to me. It was sabotage and it hit us like a truck.

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>>84455758
>he shows up
What would would happen?

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>brooding
>unsure of him
>does wrong all the time
>engages in international issues
But hey Snyder totally did wrong by portraying exactly this Superman in BvS.

Reminder that haters are just mad Marvel fanboys upset he's not acting like phony fuck Cap America.

>>84461735
He is a probably atheist,not joking.

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Is Zack gonna be okay?

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>>84462440
>In doubt, he looks to his father

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>>84462649
>this scene directly after Clark talks to his father
I like to think Bruce had a similar moment of reflection.

>>84460880
Superman didn't beat Faora either.

>>84462719
I like to think it's Bruce's lack of fatherly guidance that makes him lost.

And I also think Lex is lying about his father to justify his Superman jealousy. His fireplace is all pampered up and looks ridiculous.

>>84445381
Trollslayers cinematic universe when?

>>84463728
Number 4 should be called RADMAN

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>>84448829
murder batman is best batman. bvs was bad, but affleck was fucken savage
>yfw all the bruce wayne drinking scenes were ad-libbed by a liquored up affleck

>>84454138
but they are more than just quips, they are jokes. Set up when Batman goes to talk to Arthur, and the punchline comes when Aquaman talks to Batman.

>>84453882
>genre fiction is inherently more videogamey
>hurr durr why cant I see anything other than lights in a NIGHTTIME scene


jesus christ you are retarded

>>84460264
are you retarded? the first teaser trailer didnt even have that scene in it, and of course it was dubbed in, or did you think he REALLY jumped and they had a mic on him the entire time?


goddamn, you are so dumb.

>>84454606
>>84454147
>hurr durr why do superpowered people do super jumps in this superhero movie?!?!


holy shit, you guys are autistic

>>84454584
>being this retarded and disconnected from reality

>>84458803
same hombre

>>84445377
>>84445310
>>84445434
>>84451267
>>84445438
>>84449100
>>84455709
Whedon was already working on the movie with Snyder before he stepped down. I think Elfman coming in to do second part of the score will be like how Junkie XL came in for BvS to help Zimmer.

>>84451531
>>84451000
they do try to hit him, and obviously they wanted him alive, which you can see by the fact that they take him in alive.

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>>84459046

>>84444636
They are riding off marvel thats why

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who is looking forward to super powered superman glowing with solar powers and shit

>>84465088
i love these details

BvS is legitimately a work of high art. A bridge between blockbuster and arthouse.

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>>84465100
>Scenes Marveltards will NEVER understand.

A year ago and these threads were filled with shitposters.

Now they're all quiet. Maybe it was Zack's departure decreasing the need for a continued smear campaign who can tell these days.

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>>84464445
>unable to seperate reality from fiction

>>84460621

In this cinematic universe? Probably
In comics where the writer is a woman? Yes but barely
In comics where the writer isn't retarded? Supes rips her head off before she even realizes what's going on

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>>84462084

>tfw huge DC comics fan
>MoS wasn't perfect but pretty alright overall
>BvS sucked penis dick
>Sooside Squawd was just meh, completely unnecessary
>Wonder Woman was fucking great

Cautiously optimistic for JL

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Ben was seen back in London with his beard shaved. I'm guesting he's back for reshoots. There was actually a memeing faggot here on /tv/ saying that Whedon hated Ben and Batman and was going to edit his role smaller or some shit. Like they would do that to a A-list actor.

>>84464823
I REALLY hope this means he's done with the senseless killing. Supes, show us the light

>>84465693
i look forward to the day you join us in the sun brother

>>84453949
3rd wave? WTF

>Princess leaves her island/echo chamber/feminist bubble/safe space
>Trevor has to "mansplain" everything to her
>gets redpilled on human nature and war
>realises she was wrong all along

Also:
>romance
>female war criminal
>based Trevor saves the day

And last but not least:
>SHE IS A FUCKING CUTIE AND HER SMILE MELTS YOUR SORRY ASS PLEB HEART

Did we see the same movie, anon?

>>84448829
The action is shit but I'd watch the fuck out of Batman: New Vegas

>>84465770

I want to but Batmurderer is scaring me away

>>84465720
Honestly would've preferred if they just left his scene alone. Nobody disliked Snyder's Batman. Why are they even touching that? Why is this even happening?

>>84465736
of course he is, how did you not get that? He even does the brand-punch to the wall (instead of branding Luthor) to illustrate that. Furthermore, we SEE in Suicide Squad him going to extreme lengths to not let Joker or Harley die.


Jesus christ, I really question the average person if they cant even understand the most basic of character arcs.

>>84465925
10 years of Marvel conditioning has turned the attention span of the average movie goer into intervals of quips. BvS hit reality too close to where it hurts to be successful.

>>84465849
>>84465693
dont be dumb, the movie portrays Batman killing as a bad thing. He starts and stops within the span of the second half of BvS. The entire narrative is telling us "BATMAN SHOULDNT DO THIS, THIS IS UNBATMAN LIKE!" to the point where Alfred threatens to leave him over it.
Its commenting on how in every batman movie (Except the adam west one) Batman has killed and no one has given a single shit. Its the reconstruction of the classic Batman in modern movies.

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>>84458478
My god, that poster is brilliant.

>>84466009
This is the first Batman film where his killings are actually depicted as negative. No other Batman film has been as harsh on Batman as this one is. Burton didn't give a fuck. Neither did Nolan.

>>84466040
Exactly. This movie is a reconstruction at its core.

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>>84465916
Probably be some quips scenes or some shit. They mentioned a family dynamic between the JL, Maybe WB wants Whedon to reshoot some of those type of scene where they are hanging out. Like Bruce and Barry/Diana.

>>84465925
>>84465974

This is all head canon, sorry. Of course he won't kill major characters. He only kills faceless henchmen and parademons (as seen in the JL trailer). What remains to be seen is if he abstains from killing generic villains. Inb4 he killed KGBeast, he wasn't even KGBeast yet

>>84466009

Really hope you're right. Oh and by the way, Clooney didn't kill either

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>>84466009
>Its commenting on how in every batman movie (Except the adam west one)
He killed even there.

The writer to the Burton Batman thought the No Kill rule was retarded as it ended up getting more people killed than saved. Nolan probably thought the same since he let Bruce kill Ra's. Snyder/Terrio are the only ones that depict his kilings as a fallen state that he eventually steers clear from.

It's funny though, it's only a problem when Snyder does it. Always. When New York is destroyed, nobody cares. When Metropolis is destroyed, it's turned into an online meme. When Burton/Batman kills, nobody cares. When Snyder Batman kills while being portrayed as something bad, everyone loses their shit.

I think I've noticed the pattern here. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. All Snyder can do is follow his heart and do what he feels is right instead of the screeching fanboy warriors that are out for blood.

>>84466110
Why couldn't they just let Snyder do his Superman trilogy in peace instead of this? Man cinematic universes ruined fucking everything. Another Marvel leftover that will plague us for years from now. By now I've already settled on JL being a distant third from MoS/BvS. God knows what Whedon is doing behind the scenes.

>>84462214

Jenkins already did that.

>>84466190
>When New York is destroyed, nobody cares. When Metropolis is destroyed, it's turned into an online meme

Before the Avengers movies, nobody gave a shit/knew about them. Everybody knows Supes and expect him to be better than that. I get that it's essentially Superman Begins but it think I speak for everyone when I say we're fucking tired of origin stories, especially the ones even my grandma know by heart. Also, the only people who like Burton movies are nostalgiafags and Snyder's Batman didn't just let villains die like Nolan's, he straight up brutally murdered them. Punisher would have been proud

>>84466327
kek

>>84465231
>a continued smear campaign who can tell these days.
It's still going

>Though it doesn't approach the abominations of recent DC movies, which (with the happy exception of Wonder Woman, but certainly including the cringeworthy Justice League trailer) seem intent on making those initials stand not for "Detective Comics" but "Douchebag Corrosiveness,"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/spider-man-homecoming-review-1017796

>>84461102

great designs tho, they only need to be in a good movie

>>84466177
Clooney killed Batman

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/03/29/george-clooney-says-he-killed-batman/

>>84466361
>Everybody knows Supes and expect him to be better than that.
Everybody expects him to be better than a gang of Kryptonians, all bred solely for battle, while also saving 7 billion lives from Terraforming in the Indian Ocean? Nah, the people upset about ZOD's attack on Metropolis are fucking naive manchildren who has no idea just how fucking outmatched Clark was in every way possible. Hell he only walks out alive because he got lucky and landed behind Zod. Zod was completely dominating that battle from start to near finish. As he should, considering him being genetically bred for that purpose.

>>84466497

Comics Supes would have somehow taken to fight to a deserted place

>>84466177
Its not headcanon you stupid idiot, his whole line about promises is about his own code. And when he says man can be good he has gone back to not killing. Just because its not handed to you on a silver plate doesnt mean it isnt there. Its not head canon.


By your definition any interpetation of 2001: A Space Odyssey is headcanon because its not explicitly said.


And >hurr durr he wasnt KGBeast yet

what the fuck does that even mean? Yes he was. Just because he didnt wear a mask and costume and say I AM KGBEAST!!! it doesnt count in your head?

>>84466553
What makes you believe Superman was at liberty to choose place of battle when he was on the other side of the fucking world making sure the World Engine didn't kill 7 billion people?!

Also there are a million versions of comic Supes. Stop pretend it's Snyder vs Comics when it's also comics vs comics in Superman depictions.

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>>84466553
No he wouldnt have, and there have been so many different versions of "comics supes" you are a casual for even pretending there is one version.

And "comics supes" would not have. Especially not during his first ever fight. Pic related, a version of comic supes (not even alt-universe, mainline Supes) not taking the fight to the desert.

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>>84466553
he did try to move the fight away, you silly faggot.

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>>84466553

>>84466706
Not in bvs

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>>84466706
>ywn ever kidnap faora and take her to your rape dungeon with an assortment of strap-ons for her to use on you

>>84459801
Can't. Snyder films all his shit at night time though. I can grab some stills from the JL trailer if you don't believe me. Shit looks monochrome.

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>>84467188
Then why did this happen? Space is as deserted as a popcorn fart.

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>>84466553
He never does that in comics. He just has some thought balloon saying

>GREAT SCOTT! I ACTUALLY FELT THAT PUNCH! LUCKILY MY SUPER-CONTROLLED FALL AVOIDED BYSTANDERS!

Civilians in comics don't die cause of shitty exposition telling us they didn't or people just accept that everybody evacuated. It's easy to pull that shit in a static medium as comics. MoS gave a first proper superhero fight where all that superspeed shit is depicted as it would actually be. But, since we have to hate this movie millions died.

>>84467958
Do you have more pictures like that? Site source?

>>84468248
http://conceptartworld.com/news/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-concept-art-by-vance-kovacs/

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>>84446854
If everyone got evacuated when why the fuck do they care if the army is going to nuke the city?

>>84469112
>its a world economic engine
>millions of people homeless and destitute
>premier city wipes out

I thought you DCucks were supposed to be "smart"

>>84469198
They didn't seem to have that problem in Age of Ultron when they literally let an entire city be destroyed

>Superman is the man of tomorrow
>WW is dedicated to save the present
>Batman is a modern knight, a gallant warrior from times past

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I love these threads. You guys are great.

Is your movie poorly made?

Just add forced symbolism, religious imagery and dark shadows to your film and the retards at /tv/ will gobble it up and call it kino! Making a bad yet popular movie has never been simpler!