What the fuck were they thinking?

About making a solid Bond movie.

>>84410444
Then what went wrong along the way? This movie is the same formula as every other Daniel Craig JB film but shittier because the villain is a pale imitation of the wacky guy in Skyfall. Also, Craig is way too fucking old-looking to be screwing around with a little French qt. It was total trash, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed Skyfall, CR, and QoS and wanted to like this movie.

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>>84410444
>>84410555
Damn those trips

dubs thread now

>>84410403
>hey let's make the villain Bond's brother
>and retroactively have him be responsible for everything in the past several movies despite it making zero sense
>haha look he's got a fucked up eye now because he was actually a rehash of an iconic Bond villain and not an original character haha aren't we clever?
>let's bring the incredibly hot Monica Bellucci in but only have her on screen for two minutes
>we'll have some random blonde with no personality be the love interest
>dude CGI lmao
>Bond has incapacitated a minor villain but runs away like an idiot instead of putting a bullet in the guy's brain, which is absolutely what a trained operative would AND should do
>lmao we can't kill off Christoph Waltz yet he's the only decent actor in this shitfest, let's keep his character alive and bring him back for the next movie
>some subplot about surveillance states in today's world I think?
Helicopter scene was GOAT tho

>>84410403
thats the best craig bond film, and better than any brosnan films

SF>CR>>>QoS>>>>>>Sp

It's a great bond movie, arguably Craig's best or second best. Really enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUnFyYbrR2Q

Remember the girl that didnt want to be your girlfriend in gradeschool? Lets just say a call was placed by my father to the local police about the Bond kid being a weirdo that had tortured squirrells and cats in his basement....oh! did I forget to mention that I placed them there to make you look crazy and spread the word around school? Yes James I am the reason you never got laid...me he...me hehehe,,.....MEH HEHEHHEHEHEHH!HH!H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>84410555
>Way too old
>It's another "Older men can't slay women half their age" memester

In ancient times you were consider a fag until you hit 30s, women didn't want boys they wanted men.

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>>84412538
>Helicopter scene was GOAT tho
>mfw that scene
>mfw everything after

Where do you even start if you've never seen James Bond?

>>84413685
Dr. No

>>84410403
Everything bad about Spectre can be found in Skyfall. Mendez just can't do Bond.

>>84410555
Nah he's no imitation. I don't understand though how they could make him such a non-threat, as he is supposed to be THE vilain, the actual Bond nemesis. How could they fuck that up? He's a great actor, but they gave him a shit role.

>>84410403
sp

>>84410403
I thought it was decent. I don't know why everyone had these high expectations for this film or any recent Bond film for that matter. Bond was always mediocre. If you weren't expecting schlocky nonsense, then you're watching the wrong movie.

>>84412943
Goldeneye IMO is best (by small amount of nostalgia) but watching the newer ones never kinda gets boring.

QoS>CR>>>>Shitefall>Spectre

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>>84410444
>>84410555
GRANT ME REPEATING DIGITS

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>>84414199
>>84413644
>>84410555
>>84410444
All aboard the dubs train

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Doesn't anyone think it's time for a retro Bond? How about we get away from the physical-street Bond and move toward a more traditional suave and elegant Hiddleston Bond set during WW2? Bond can kill Nazi's and in the meantime he can fuck sexy Flemish resistance fighters with hairy armpits.

Watching QoS immediately after CR as an "epilogue" as sorts is the best Bond experience.

>>84413887
Then what do I watch if I want good spy films?

>>84415175

Breech. The first Mission Impossible. Good Shepard.

Fuck if I know anymore.

>>84414954
Bond fights the Soviets, not Nazis.

>>84415284
I'd pay money to see that as well.

>>84410403
I liked it

>original Blofeld was a ruthless criminal mastermind motivated by his own greed and ambition who happened to cross paths with Bond solely because they had conflicting interests
>Nufeld is is a whiny cuck motivated by jealousy of Bond. Everything he ever did was a passive-aggressive bid for attention from muh daddy's favourite.

Yet another example of legacy film franchises eventually collapsings in on themselves and becoming self-ingratiating wankfests. Blofeld is such an iconic villain that *of course* he has to have a personal connection with Bond, to the detriment of his own character.

And to think, the Craigverse was showing such promise.

>>84410403
>it's 201X
>Men need to believe that Cougars, widows and grannies are top-tier sex symbols

>>84413685
Casino Royale (1954)

>>84416328
this. it was such a mistake to make it personal.

also, terrible miscast with wacky waltz. didn't bring any menace to the screen. blofeld should have been played by idris elba who would have given a genuine threat with his presence.

>>84410403
"We must address CR stupid sequel hook and QoS retarded subplot leftovers."

I liked it but Blofeld was such a crap villain.

>>84414163

wew lad

>>84415057
QoS was horse shit. Watching it after something as solid as CR is like getting feces for dessert after having caviar.

>>84415284
Could be very appropos considering the Russian collusion with the current American regime.

I watched this movie for the first time yesterday but I never saw Skyfall. Was the villain someone who was introduced in that movie or QoS? I saw QoS when it came out but I don't remember a single thing about it.

>>84417688
Blofeld appeared for the fist time in the Craigeverse with Spectre. CR and QoS hinted at a bigger organisation behind the scenes.

Is there a story about why they never used Greene pictures through the movie?

>>84417748
>Blofeld appeared for the fist time in the Craigeverse with Spectre
I see. When he was revealed at the head of the table I got the impression that you were supposed to gasp at seeing him.

How's Skyfall? I guess I won't be surprised when M dies but still.

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>>84414873
Toot! Toot!

>>84417825
>I got the impression that you were supposed to gasp at seeing him.
It's because it's aping on Bond lore from pre-Craig movies. Blofeld was the main antagonist in the Connery days, so they wanted to hype up his introduction into the new movies.

how about that gay as fuck theme song tho?

>>84417938
Except they completely ruined it. That moment when you're supposed to be afraid, there's just...silence and nothing happens. You feel nothing.

>>84417967
You mean
"But with you i'm feeling something
That makes me fucking gay
I'm prepared for this
I never miss a kiss
But i feel like a dick is coming
If i'm gonna make it through the day
Then there's no more use in waitin'
This is something i gotta face
If i risk it all
Could you break my ass?
Cause the writing is on the whore!"

>>84417406
QoS is the only Craig Bond that actually sticks to the formula. Bond doesn't quit the agency out of love, M does what M is supposed to do, no retarded capeshit-tier plots, just Bond and spywork.

The only complaint people can have is the editing but everything else is spot on.

It's decent. Radiohead's song for it is miles better than that shit ty Sam Smith pile of shit.

>>84413454
Shoo back to r/incel

Spectre is what happens when a studio gets cinematic universe envy.

>>84410403
>JUST sum up my last three movies & lazily tie them together with a superboss
>SAY NO MORE

>>84410403
>What the fuck were they thinking?

They weren't.

>>84410555
>enjoy QoS

Kys

>>84418134
Bowing to the formula mindlessly is the most stupid thing one can do. It's the same as admitting that quality doesn't matter and that you'll consume all and any available material for no other reason than following a formula. Fucking tool.

>>84417967
Back in Thunderball
>He knows the meaning of sucess
>His needs are more so he gives less
>They call him the winner who takes all
>So he strikes like a thunderball

Meanwhile now
>WAH WAH CAN'T BREATHE WITHOUT YOU MISSING MY SHOTS OMG I'M ABOUT TO FUCKING CRY

Can't fucking believe this shit.

>once I do this surgery you'll forget everything
>does the surgery
>remembers everything

walked out at that point

>>84418733
The Bond formula worked for 50 years. If you don't want that formula, why the hell are you watching Bond movies in the first place? Adherence to the formula alone is not a guarantee of success but it's a fucking start.

>boring, uninspired action sequences with no feeling of stakes or real danger
>recycled theme from Skyfall about "technology vs real agents" only with that annoying cuck Moriarty
>Christoph Waltz has ridiculously low amount of screentime
>still manages to have one of the most ridiculous motivations in recent memory
>weakens previous Bond villains by that IT WAS SMEE JAMES thing
>third act is so unbelievably stupid with the old MI6 building
>overall ridiculously by the books with no heart or identity

Even QoS is better than this garbage.

>>84418861
Nowadays you need something to set the movie apart. CR and Skyfall were successful takes on the Bond formula with their own twists. QoS failed because it strayed from the formula too far.

>>84418861
>The Bond formula worked for 50 years
Do you really believe that the franchise would have stayed around for so long if every movie had the level of quality of QoS?

>>84418948
No, since plebs hate good if not exactly easily digestible movies but on the other hand, it would die for sure if every movie was like Skyfall and Spectre.

>>84418935
>strayed too far

How?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDJOXiPSRIs

>You know, I never understood all these elaborate tortures. It's the simplest thing... to cause more pain than a man can possibly endure.
Spectre BTFO

>>84418935
QoS failed because it was a below average movie, plain and simple.

>Bonds entire identity is based around a sense of duty to queen and country and any women he comes across on the way are used for sex or information


DUDE IVE FALLEN IN LOVE LMAO

>>84413685
Dalton.

>>84419015
>QoS
>good

Go to bed Bizarro.

>>84413685
Probably one of the first 3 Connery.

>>84415175
The Assignment (90s one, not the new one)
Spy Games (a llot of shit editing, but a great story)

>>84413685

Goldfinger.

Don't start at Dr. No - you'll get the wrong impression of the series.

>>84419136
It is.

>James Bond doing actual spywork
>good villain plan that fits the ideology
>grounded
>Kurylenko, Gemma
>"Tosca isn't for everyone"
>Mathis' death scene

>>84419015
>barely any humor
>boring locations, fucking slums and the desert
>bad cinematography (Bond movies should be a visual feast)
>badly shot action sequences
>Bond is a desperate man looking for revenge, not a glamorous globe-trotting assassin
>overall movie is too understated for a big Bond spectacle

>>84419248
I'll say take that advice, Goldfinger blew my mind as a kid while watching Dr No as an adult left me with a vague feeling of insatisfaction.

>>84415175
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

>>84419248
Nah, if he starts with Goldfinger and Bond with a fucking fake bird on his head, he'll stop watching.

No&From Russia are more serious movies. More spy oriented. Goldfinger is when it became cheesy (still good though).

Best Connery Bond: You Only Live Twice
Best Moore Bond: The Spy Who Loved Me
Best Dalton Bond: Licence to Kill
Best Brosnan Bond: GoldenEye
Best Craig Bond: Skyfall

>>84419375
The Living Daylight is so underated. It's best Dalton. It might even be the best Bond film.

>>84419313
>barely any humor
Sardonic humor
>boring locations, fucking slums and the desert
Tosca
>bad cinematography (Bond movies should be a visual feast)
matter of opinion
>badly shot action sequences
Good point but I'm not really watching Bond for action
>Bond is a desperate man looking for revenge, not a glamorous globe-trotting assassin
Bond is a professional that wants to destroy an organization that has infiltrated the British government and others. Not to mention License to Kill has Bond going rogue before.
>overall movie is too understated for a big Bond spectacle
It's grounded in the same vein Dalton movies were. I like camp Bond but this worked too.

>>84419375
>>84419405
Best Dalton Bond is pretty 50/50

>>84419405
WHAT IS GOLDENEYE.

>>84413685
From Russia With Love