How historically accurate is the movie Downfall? What things

Very accurate. Hitler was a nervous, twitchy, mumbly man-child detached from reality and prone to temper tantrums.

Holocaust isn't real so obviously those scenes were false.

>>84407710
Quite accurate, several of the scenes and events in it reportedly happened. The film stops and kind of glosses over that all the women got gang raped in the aftermath, if that absence is important to you.

>>84407710
Isn't this movie based on the memoirs of the real life secretary?

>>84407734
just like drumph amirite

>>84407884
Who?

>>84407839
yeah thats the only one i really knew about, i also knew about that "Operation Clausewitz" wasnt the actual name either. I dont know if thats true though. Im just currently watching it and wondering if im able to actually learn from it

>>84407909
Frau Junge

>>84407734
Hitler was literally having a mental breakdown from advanced syphilis and parkinsons by the end of the war. He didn't have long left regardless of the result. Its also true that Hitler ordered infrastructure destroyed and all citizens armed so the "unworthy" Germanic peoples would perish in their entirely with the fall of Nazi ideology.

there are some conflicting accounts of what went on inside of hitlers bunker, so some liberties may have been taken

>not known if stumpfeger gave the children medicine to make them sleep
>not known if magda put capsules in their mouth
>details of fegeleins capture/trial misrepresented

etc. but good kino

>>84408527
Yeah he was of the mindset that it was victory or total destruction for Germany. The book I read on him had the last part titled Götterdämmerung. It's like a Greek tragedy played out with the lives of millions

I wish more people watched Downfall, especially the "LOL EVERYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH MY POLITICS ISN'T EVEN HUMAN!" lefties. It shows that the Nazis weren't all assholes, but often a bunch of people miserably unprepared for the war in front of them.

>>84407710
That one doctor who actually seemed like a decent guy experimented on a bunch of Jews in real life. And that one kid Nazi who fights on the battlefield was loosely inspired by a picture rather than an actual person in real life.

>>84411575
Anon, when did they inform you that you are clinically retarded?

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>>84411837

There had to be protagonists, so they felt they had to downplay unsavory aspects. Another example of this was Monkte, who was tried for executing British prisoners but was let off on a technicality or something.

If there had to be a subplot about a decent person, they should have followed Weidling and his desperate defense of Berlin rather

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>>84411931

>>84411842
I said they weren't all assholes, not that none of them were. The majority of the cast are awful people, but there's also Junge, Gunsche, and Speer.

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>>84411953

>>84407758
>movie has absolutely nothing to do with the holocaust
>holocaust denier goes out of his way to announce it didn't happen for no reason at all
Really activates my almonds

>>84407710
>How historically accurate is the movie Downfall?
Very, th only major inaccuracy is Otto the guy who set fire to hitler being dark hared and brown eyed, irl he was blonde and blue eyed. David irving was sourced a bit for the movie to and despite the disgusting kike campaign against him is one of the best third reich historians alive and the only man to meet Hitlers inner circle and translate tons of documents in the archives.

What happened to Steiner?

>>84411842
You're typically childish on the issue, grow up.

>>84411575
The fact is Hitler was the closest we ever got to breaking free from the shackles of the jewish banking system and what a same we didn't succeed as we'd be living in a far more prosperous europe today. The holocaust was very unfortunate but more a last resort after repatriation of jews to israel became impossible (blocked by allies for sinister reasons), see the havaara agreement of 33 to see the intention all along was just to move the jews out of Germany and no extermination. There's also not a single document that proves Hitler really knew much about what was going on as he was preoccupied with the war efforts there is however evidence of people like Albert eichmann organizing essentially ammunition for death squads. It's a very Human story desu of intentions,politics,deceit,corruption,abuse of power and financial intervention from interested parties. Churchill was a puppet in a secret group called "focus" which was all jewish banking elites paying him large sums to make the decisions they wanted, the real winners of WW2 were the global banking institutions and the U.S and the biggest losers were us the british (roosevelt never hid his intentions to destroy the british empire) all said and done based on all things considered I believe the nazis would of been a better future than what we got controversial as it may be.

>>84407710
Hitler reviewed it from Argentina, he reckons there were a few errors.

>>84407839
>all the women got raped in the aftermath
Source? I'm not denying it, but I can't find anything about this.

They tried hard to make it accurate but it's based mostly on one person's account, so there's no way to know for sure.

>>84413510
You don't know anything about Nazi Germany, just stop posting.

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>>84413510
I bet when you post this retarded shit on /pol/ it passes for intelligent discussion

>that aryan qt that killed herself when their 88 was about to ber overrun
at least she didn't get raped

>>84413682
You mean that girl who was clearly a Slav?

>>84413832
>they hire Slavs to play Germans because Germans are ugly fucks

>>84407710
There is nobody alive in the world that could tell you how accurate this movie is. Given the bad press that old hell razer gets, what do you think?

>>84407710

David Irving is the most authoritative historian on the inner circle during the end, much of the dialogue is sourced from his interviews. To a certain degree, we can't be totally sure of many things, but here's his complaints if you care

http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/Irving/RadDi/2005/010205.html

>>84415866
>http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/Irving/RadDi/2005/010205.html

great read. thanks.

It's fraught with inconsistencies that force doubt onto it, and is obvioualy sensationalist for obvious dramatic effect.
According to the movie Hitler was delusional, believing Whenk's army would save Berlin, and yet as this anon points out >>84408527 Hitler was already aware of Germany's defeat and had taken measures to destroy any infrastructure the Soviets could use. Likewise this quote the anon is referring to is taken out of context, Hitler was making the point that strength wins wars, and the German's clearly were not strong enough.
Then again I never trusted Speer's testimonies due to how easily he got off and how willing he was to denounce Hitler and everything about the Third Reich.
Hitler is surrounded by intentional distortion by vested parties for obvious reasons, so getting any accurate information is difficult.

I miss the old memes people made from that one scene, 'Hitler reacts to ____'

>>84413510
What the fuck are you blabbering on about. Even the point about Eichmann was wrong, he was in charge of railroad transportation. Is this bait?

>>84413510
This is how mental illness looks like kids, take a note.

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>>84416461
Keep samefagging that salt nigga

>>84407710
Emmm
Hitler actually lives in a secret base in Antarctica

>>84416515
S A M È F A C E

>>84413510
This website has rotted your brain.

>>84413510
Adolf, pls go

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>>84407710
>a movie based on a hoax propagated by jewish servants
>how historically accurate

wew lad

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>>84407893
Jokes aside, apparently yeah

>>84417033
main inaccuraccies were that Hitler knew he'd lose as early as '41

>>84407734
One of us

>hitler died in 1945
lmao

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>>84417099
Hitler didn't kill himself, and even if he did, it didn't happen as Americraps and Shitoviets tell us it happened. Fuck those kikes and their fairy tales.

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>>84417304
Always believe and do opposite of what the Jews say.

>>84407710

Main inaccuracy was leaving out that Hitler went to live in an ice station on the Moon.

>>84417304
Why wouldn't he, a lot of high command did, even someone like Rommel. Sure he was under pressure but still took suicide pills.

>>84407710
i'd have a gf if it wasn't for the jews

>>84413510
yuropoor banking institutions were the ones that fucked the usa though. stop blaming us for the poison you infected us with

>(roosevelt never hid his intentions to destroy the british empire)
this is also false. the brits were wanting to give up their empire because it stopped being profitable when they didn't have a monopoly on trade anymore. the britkikes, being the good goyim that they are, saw an opportunity to blame the usa

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>>84417334
The body was never found, and all we have are testimonies of a secretary and a SS guard, which were forced confessions.

And that's not the point, thing is that Americans and Soviets are/were full of shit, and if I don't believe them on Moon landing, 9/11, and the rest of the hoaxes, I won't believe them on official account of Hitler's end.

They say he an heroed himself, I say he probably lived in Antarctica where he oversaw Americunts getting BTFO in Operation Highjump, or if he died, he went like the last king of Byzantine Empire, Constantine Xi Palaiologos.

But did he really phone the talking cat? or is tjhat another jew-lie?

>>84407710
That woman who worked for Hitler who escapes through the red army soldiers at the end, was actually captured by them and not treated well would be an understatement.

>>84407710
Who were those two crazy pilots at the end?
One female and the other a male, the fact that Berlin was under siege and Hitler was at his wits end didn't seem to phase them

>>84407710
Hitler didn't actually exist and was a composite of three other people, and they didn't include the famous rap battle, but otherwise it's pretty accurate. Source: I have a degree in alternative history.

>>84417470
if you think they faked the moonlanding you are truly retarded

>>84407710
it was probably my favourite movie involving hitler, not one line is wasted on holocaust pandering and there is no obvious "jew" arc or character that has to take revenge on the evil Reich.

It's purely a film about the Capital of a losing nation falling apart, the scenes of the wounded soldiers in the subway tunnels is more pressing and powergul than the 6 gorillionths scene of hungry kikes in rags.

>>84415866
David Irving is not a professional historian. He has no degree. He is mostly a propagandist and it was proved that he distorted facts in his books.

Are there any good movies about the Eastern front?
All the high budget films are about the played out Holocaust and irrelevant americans trying to play the big hero.

I want some good films about the most deadly battle in the history of humanity. The german Stalingrad 1993 was fine, but nothing special.

>>84421202
I fuck man ass

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>>84413510
2016 really was the worst thing to happen to this website.

>>84413573
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany

>>84413573
Something like 2-3 million women and children were raped by the reds. But the germans raped just as many russians so they got it coming I guess.

>>84407710
>should be here or in the history board

Dude it is a film therefore it should be here.

>>84413510
You crazies have no self-awareness whatsoever.

>>84411575
>>84411837
This.

It's not that they were good people seduced by ebul Hitler, they were all pieces of shit who realised it was finally over and so dropped their pretence of being in control.

But anyone who leaves this movie thinking the nazis were actually the good guys (i.e. the mongoloid /pol/ cretins who've all but ruined this site and cannot think critically at all) is a dumbass.

>>84411961
>Speer
>not an awful person
>still drinking this particular brand of kool-aid

>>84407710
The only thing I found inaccurate was that Goebbels was portrayed by this ugly motherfucker whereas the real Goebbels was distinguished looking.

>>84411961
> Speer

Good to see his campaign of "I was just an architect lol" worked on you

>>84407758
> biographical movie never even mentions the holocaust

> retard bitch baby mentions it any way

>>84417470
a true imbecile

>>84421202
Winter war is a good finish mobie

The holocaust was obviously not accurate

They also portrayed him as slightly evil, which isn't true at all, considering he did nothing wrong except lose.

>>84411575
lol

>>84422571

It's a lie germans tell themselves to feel better about their grandparents. I don't think you're ever gonna see a german movie portraying the german people during nation socialism realistically.

>>84423063
Hahaha did you even read my post?

You people have become a parody of yourselves, holy shit.

>>84423149

What are you on about? You really think Germans are engaging critically with their past? No, they keep telling themselves that they were "seduced" by Hitler and the nazi party and that they had "no idea" what was actually going on in concentration camps.

>>84421202

>asking the plebs of /tv/ to know real kino

The subhumans here can only talk about capeshit and e-celebrities.
They only know about Downafall because of Reddit memes.

>>84410247
a mindset which is objectively correct. German people will be extinct if present demographic trends continue over the centuries.

>>84420269
>He has no degree.

not an argument. where there no historians prior to the university system?

>>84407839
i thought it wasnt the front line troops that did the raping?

how do people rationalise the fact that many allied countries actually interred people in camps like the germans did, with the view that the allies were morally upstanding? america locked up japs, australia locked up japs, germans and italians

>>84424798
>dude it's totally the same thing
>>>/pol/

>>84422298
Even 2 million was considered an exaggeration. But I don't deny that rapes happened and that the Soviets acted like animals.

>>84422216
I thought he's talking about the women who were with Hitler in his bunker.

>>84423906
There were not. At least not historians in modern sense.

>>84425619
>I thought he's talking about the women who were with Hitler in his bunker.

Yeah that's definitely what the guy you quoted ( >>84407839 ) seemed to imply and how I understood it as well. Would have loved to see a source for that.

>>84411575
I think what anon is trying to say is you are not watching "Inglorious Bastards" you are watching a more.... human portrayal and the perspective of the Nazis.

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>>84407710
Hitlerr neverr died. ;)

>>84426646
That's true, but what about Hitler?

>>84423264
that's not true though.

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>>84417470
>if I don't believe them on Moon landing

>>84408527
Don't discount injuries from the failed assassination attempt, or years of meth amphetamine abuse taking thier toll.

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What did he mean by this?

>>84413510
Well said anon

>>84423264
We are being told in school that people knew about the concentration camps but wouldn't talk about it. That's at least in higher education

>>84428824
he's probably high on meth

>>84428824
looks like EPS

>>84407734
so /pol/?

>>84428824
Top kek

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>>84407710
Just watched it because of this thread. Boy, that was really good.

>>84413510
I don't know about the secret circles, but otherwise spot on, Mr Irving.

>>84429182
>>84429179
this x1000. i don't think he had parkinsons but severe EPS.

>>84428824
He had to pee obviously.