Fargo

File: aabbe93b82670c22c170943bf2ac4a37.jpg (110KB, 492x366px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 492x366px

Correct

>>84393422
>S1 > S2 > Movie > S3
>movie isn't #1

kys yourself you fucking blep

>>84393422
been putting off watching season 2 I don't like the fact it takes place in the 70s

>>84393643

Considering it takes place in bumfuck nowhere the time period change doesn't even matter. The only real difference is no one has a cell phone. Still feels exactly as Fargo should.

>>84393724
Wrong. I like Season 2, but it goes well out of its way to remind you that it's set in the 70s at all times. I'm not even talking about the time-appropriate soundtrack. I'm talking shit like the split screens and Reagan.

>>84393466
The movie sucked.

>>84393643
Watch season 3 first, then season 2 will seem twice as good.

s2>s1>>>>>s3

s3 is garbage and s1 has martin "the one note hack" freeman and colin "my daddy got me this job" hanks ruining every scene they are in

Making Lorne a fallen angel or the devil or whatever was really great.

>>84394732
>Hating on Martin Freeman after his excellent Lester Nygaard performance
smdh tbqhwy famalam

>>84394880
martin freeman is terrible in everything and uses the same quirks for every character he tries to play

>bawwwww I didn't understand s3 so it's garbage!!

>>/capeshit/

>>84395033
ewan was bad. mew was bad. coon was an after thought tacked on. not even david thewlis was the only good part of this and not even he could save it.

While I think season 3 is easily the weakest I loved the ambiguity of the final scene. I like to think that Varga wasn't bullshitting

s2>s3>s1>movie

>>84395083
He totally was. His desperate last lies as the hammer of justice finally comes down on him.

>>84395166
Dude no way. He was definitely connected, hence the text that saved him, and even the accountant mentions he must be since he got pushback from his investigation.

fargo the television show has always been fucking shit
it hammed up the arch tone of the movie and threw out the pathos that made it interesting
literally reԁԁit tier

>>84395232
Pleb

>>84393422
The release order is the order of quality, it isn't hard to grasp.

season 1 is a dumb story that has connections to the fargo movie

season 2 actually feels like it's in the fargo universe

season 3 is a bad version of season 1

>>84393422
>rating anything above the movie
Fucking end yourself

>>84396133
>the fargo universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUhIY4GcL2w

>>84393422
Haven't watched S2 or S3, but there are several scenes in S1 that blatantly ripoff the movie. I don't know how anyone could rate S1 above the movie.

>>84396357
Well, for one, it's a more intense and well realized story with better acting and better characters

File: 1496573826545.jpg (26KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 480x360px

>>84396433

>>84396558
reaction images doesn't validate your shit opinion

>>84396433
all this

>>84393422

Movie >>>power gap >>>> 3 > 2 >1


not shitting on the tv show, I've really enjoyed every season, but the movie is one of the best movies of all time.

>>84397184
watching after s1 was painful. managed to finish it only for 3rd run

>>84397310
>>84397184
also, if the movie were so GOAT, then the show couldn't be anyway succesful and get 3 seasons

>>84396357
I can't finish any season because of this. Immediately lose interest after 3/4 episodes of every season so far.

It's like there's one joke in the entire show, and it doesn't carry that long.

I'm watching season 3 right now and for me it's
s2>s1>s3
haven't seen the movie though

>>84397184
And Fargo the series (specifically the first season) is one of the best TV shows of all time.

File: 7mcm5bqy.jpg (11KB, 194x240px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 194x240px

>>84395211
pretty sure the text was sent by swango to lure varga into the elevator alone

>>84397747
nah, it's shit. doesn't challenge the audience in the slightest. it's the perfect emblem for the "golden age" of television we're living: an inferior copy of a film, dumbed down for the people who were too stupid to understand it the first time.

>>84397747

Malvo and Lester were great but the season had alot of negatives. in particular the forced connections to the movie, Collin Hanks, Key, Peele, the time skip, ect.

>>84398683
It's great to watch and keeps you glued to the screen
>challenging the audience
elitist retard detected

>>84393422
Yup. Season 2 had little humor and one dimensional characters. 3 was just a disappointmen with even less character development. Fuck Varga. Nigga wasnt shit without his goons. Malco was amazing and such a dick. "You missed a spot." He was as manipulative as Varga and ruthless.

>>84394174
t. ultraplen

File: halfbreed.jpg (36KB, 700x392px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 700x392px

>all 3 seasons although not perfect, were much more watchable than most other TV offerings..
>the movie will always be very hard to beat or even match

>>84394685
this

File: 021001240111110.jpg (15KB, 213x280px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 213x280px

>tfw never seen the tv show and never will, to keep the memory on the film intact and perfect
>tfw it's probably fedora-core anyway and i dudget the bullet

ACES

>>84399440
Faggot

>>84396558
It's true

>>84399440
The show isn't a remake or anything, really the only similarities are the name, that it takes place in MN/ND, and a sort of easter egg that happens mid season in a subplot that connects the two stories. Other than that it's totally it's own thing, and even though I felt the same way you do about it at first, I tried watching it just as it's own show and I fucking loved it. Only season 1, haven't seen the others.

I really recommend it, just don't go into it expecting it to be anything like the movie or related to the movie, put the movie out of your mind and view the show as completely it's own thing.

File: C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Temp_Saved Images_fargo_s02e03_patrick_wilson_still.jpg (39KB, 768x433px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 768x433px

All seasons are great but

S2>S1>S3

Patrick Wilson alone makes it better, he is fantastic. Also Hansee was great. Black guy was great plus his fate at the end is hilarious.

Yes. Malvo was cool but >muh chaos. Nygaard was ok. Fat cop was the most annoying character ever.

Gloria Burgle was fantastic. Varga was fantastic. Henchmen were meme tier. Stussy was shit. Sy was cool. Also MEW's ex getting WRENCHED


Terrific show overall

>>84400275
What the actual fuck are you talking about? There are several scenes, shots, and even dialogue ripped straight from the movie. Hell even the suitcase of money from the movie becomes a plot device in the show. I don't mind a little wink and nudge alluding to the movie, but I feel like S1 hits you over the head with it.

>>84403057
Also I might add the characters are carbon copies of the characters from the movie.

Does S2 pick up midway?
It feels pretty slow

1 > 2 > 3 > movie

The last episodes of season 1 were fucking intense I had to shower two times because my armpits were sweating due to excitement as I'm willing to get pass the teleporting lorne malvo throughout the episodesc.

>>84400275
the series has done nothing but cull themes, characters and situations from the coen filmography, then repackage them into ten episode seasons. The first season had the most to pull from, the second season had some leftovers, and the third season actually had to reuse crap that had already been used (varga's arrest at the end was low quality xerox of malvo's arrest).

why the fuck would you just lie to people?

Skip the series, watch the coen movies, forget the series exists.

I can't really recommend 3. Parts of it work very well, but none of the parts work well together. You can't really have an ambiguous, ambivalent ending after The Wandering Jew shows up at a supernatural bowling alley to claim the soul of a timeless evil incarnated in the form of Yuri the Ukrainian hitman. The show renders the Bowling Alley scene completely nonsensical and irrelevant, something which would only be more glaring on the re-watch. It's like making a grill that also operates as a fridge - no matter how well the individual parts function, combining them together can't help but impede and undermine the other.

>>84403057
>Hell even the suitcase of money from the movie becomes a plot device in the show.
That's the easter egg I mentioned, which is exactly what it is. They don't make any actual references to where the money came from, and if you haven't seen the movie you would have no idea there was a connection.

>There are several scenes, shots, and even dialogue ripped straight from the movie
Would you like to provide any actual examples or are you just going to spout bullshit without backing any of it up?

The fact that you apparently couldn't separate the show from the movie while watching it is telling about you, not the show itself. The show is nothing like the movie in any significant way.

>>84403815

pleb status: filtered

S3 was radfem doggerel

>>84404036
As I said to the other anon, either give actual examples/comparisons or fuck off with your useless bitching

>>84404265
please explain how

>>84404118
negro a refrigerator that doubles as a grill is a perfectly viable model due to how refrigerators work

>>84393422
yes

>>84404300
I gave an example you illiterate fuck. The bowling alley scene is another example that has also been cited in this thread.

We go over this in every thread.

Are you a fucking marketer or something?

>>84404036
>characters
if you saw any of the characters as being the same as any characters in the movie you are pretty shallow-minded.
>woman cop
>woman cop
>OMG ITS TEH SAME CHARACTER

>>84404400
>being this buttflustered
go get some air

the movie >>POWER GAP>> S2 >>>>> last third of S3 > S1 > first 2/3 of S3 >>fifty meters of dogshit and worms>> the last scene of S3 that was ripped off from Nic Cage's Lord of War;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTK8torOylM

>>84404400
You gave an example of a scene from season 3 being similar to season 1, you gave no comparisons of anything between the movie and the show.
Also, calm the fuck down spazz

>>84393422

MOVIE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
S1 >>> S2 >>>>>>> S3

>>84404331
males are either hopeless incompetents, evil incarnate or subserviently compliant with the superior female heroines.

>>84404555
>the movie

how about a strangely competent salt of the earth female police officer stymied by incompetent bumpkins who are also police officers? Season 2 was the only one that didn't have this, which is a big part of why people confuse it for anything other than shit.

>>84404400
>We go over this in every thread.

>"hey guys I have no life"

>>84404451
Macey and McDormand are aped rather heavily.

>>84404615
>a strangely competent salt of the earth female police officer stymied by incompetent bumpkins who are also police officers
Because Fargo is the only media to ever have used this trope.
Shit like that is way too general to be a valid criticism.

>>84404697
FargoTV is the only media named FARGO that lifts that character type directly from the movie it is mindlessly aping.

>>84404582
The fact that Nikki's main motivation for revenge was her love towards her male fiance makes s3 very un-radfem. Gloria had a whole arc about how fucking useless she is. The only subservient main characters are mostly subservient to other male characters.

>dude a flying saucer got billybob out of jail in man who wasn't there so we can have aliens get our hero character out of a tight spot!

>dude there's an omniscient character chilling in a bowling alley in the big lebowski so we can have an omniscient character help our heroine out of a tight spot!

You either see how fargoTV is just a cheap, completely misunderstood collection of copies of the coen filmography or you haven't watched enough coen movies.

>>84404729
nothing you say has any merit or actual logic to it. all you're doing is bitching without saying anything of substance. seriously just stop, you're making a complete ass of yourself.

>>84404793
gloria was only useless because she was surrounded by MEN

nikki's problems were all caused by MEN

>>84404865
strangely strong words in such an empty post.

seriously though, are you a marketer? I really hope you're not the showrunner. As varga was built around representing how the showrunner has done nothing but mindlessly regurgitate the coen filmography into colorless messes and trick the simple minded with florid prose.

>>84404866
mkay lol

>>84404968
>such an empty post
>what is irony

>maybe if i use big words people will think im smart
>calling anybody who disagrees with me a shill

you're just checking off all the boxes of a butthurt fag who doesn't actually have any argument, aren't you?

There's multiple scenes every episode that are ripped off from/in homage to various Coen Bro films. This is part of the fun and part of the reasons the show is so good. The episodes use music cues from their various films. Just because I know it the best, Fargo has used plenty of music from the Big Lebowski, and this season included the bowling alley scene with the mystical character appearing as well as the guy driving who drops a smoke and swerves the car as it burns him scene. In season 2 the scene where Bear brings the daughter into the forest is out of the movie with Gabriel Byrne when brings John Turturro in the forest. etc etcetc

>>84404831
>dude a flying saucer got billybob out of jail
>out of jail

what

>>84405135
just a statement on how completely the alien's in man who wasn't there were misunderstood

>>84405108
>I didn't understand ur post so ur pretending to be teh smart and ur not! Imma smart!!

... I apologize, I didn't realize you were legitimately retarded.

>>84405192

the fuck

File: wot da fook.jpg (92KB, 432x410px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 432x410px

>>84405192
dude what?

>>84405268
>>84405385
what seems to be the source of your confusion

i still remember that scene in S1 where Billy Bob just tells Colin to drive away and pretend he didn't see anything. shit was tense yo!

>>84405471
dude that was so badass

i remember the time I was pulled over once and I was going to do something like that but then the cop started talking and I just said "yes sir."

File: 5bb62dd1-dc4a-4e55-b361-60606a5da1c1.gif (3MB, 500x424px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 500x424px

Can we have some Riley posts?

>>84405385
Is that Chris Penn?

>>84393422

Is Malvo the best Chaotic Evil villain of all time?

>>84406039
malvo was chaotic neutral

>>84406116
yeah I'm pretty sure he's nowhere near neutral. but he sure was a crafty bastard. that locusts stunt he pulled was an inspired genius!

File: 1495616420013.png (19KB, 445x500px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 445x500px

s2>movie>s1>s3

anyone saying any season of the show is better than the movie is an underage faggot

>>84405501
You would have been arrested or shot, you fucking retard

s2>s1>>>>>>>>>>>>s3

S2 had Patrick Wilson at great shape with an actually well written character, also Kisrten Dunst, Todd, Gerhardt family. The Kansas City family were kind of annoying but ok overall. The story run with a nice pace.

S3 fucked up big time at the end and the very first episodes were not great too.

Also, there's no point to comparing a series with a film.

>>84393643
its complete shit dont bother

The movie was great. And will hold up as a great film from talented creators.

The TV series is pretty much the exact opposite of that.

It's always been bad. S3 was just the first time it was so ad that I didn't finish watching the season. I stopped after magical angel in interdimetional bowling alley with reincarnated boyfriend in kitten.

>>84407846
that was the highlight of that season though you big dummy

if you think fargo s1 and s2 wont be looked back favorably youre pretty damn stupid

>>84408237
yes, people have come to accept those with shit taste will, in several years, look back and think "wow, things were so much better back then."

>>84393422
S1>S3>S2
The underwhelming finale wasn't as bad as the ayy lmaos DEM. Didn't care to watch the movie.

>>84393759
>split screens are a 70s thing

>>84408338
name 3 things wrong with season 2

>>84408512
the black dude, the plot armor, the aliens

>>84405531
I used to feel bad about him but then I realise after I saw her closeups in Fargo, she's way past her prime.
He got to bang that pussy for 10 years while she was in her prime, took her cherry and then the relationship ends as he is improving himself and she is with flabby cheeks and an old face.

File: 1422166987613.png (4KB, 493x402px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 493x402px

>>84408557
0/3, we were looking for the single flaw, hanzee = tripoli

good luck and better luck next time. in the meantime, why dont you check out these great shows that are probably more up your alley, champ?

>the walking dead
>game of thrones
>westworld
>stranger things

>>84408570
>flabby cheeks and an old face.

What ?

>>84408616
Best henchman. Shame him and Meemo didn't get much interaction

>>84408626
>things that were bad weren't bad because I say so

...

>>84394985
Fucking kill yourself. This was him at his best

S2>S1>S3
>Season 3 is the worst
>Somehow that means it shit
Its still really good. solid 7/10. Anything lower and your fucking lying

File: yuri2.webm (3MB, 900x434px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 900x434px

>>84408674
yeah, wrench and numbers and the kitchen brothers were shown to be close, its a bummer

File: 1412309183207.jpg (102KB, 1039x1004px) Image search: [Google]

102KB, 1039x1004px

>>84408687
>things that werent bad were bad because i say so

>>84394800

Did they actually do this?

>>84408715
Dude when you go outside the world is totally tinted that color how mastful of the director holy shit

>>84408717
the black dude was clearly just the result of a formula checklist that demanded a malvo-type, the cop's plot armor made every scene with him pointless, the aliens betrayed how little the showrunners understood the coen films.

>>84393422
>television greater than film
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

File: riley instagram.png (269KB, 507x542px) Image search: [Google]

269KB, 507x542px

>>84405531
This is probably the saddest from them all, from the other day

>>84408687
Nothing you said was was bad though.
>the Black dude
He was really charming, and probably had the best ending to a character arc.
>The plot armor
Every show has a level of plot armor you fucking idiot. Can't kill off a character before their time is up. That doesn't mean they can't be in bad situations
>The aliens
I hate to say this. But its literally Pleb filter. The aliens were a great touch that completely shaped the season. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its a bad thing

File: new meme.jpg (54KB, 713x579px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 713x579px

>>84408757
this

>>84408764
negro, when the entire season is a flashback, you know going in the guy having the flashback will never be in any legitimate danger, ever.

The goal of any ficitonal work is to make people forget it's fiction for a few moments. Starting after the end then flashing back to the beginning dispels this illusion irrevocably.

>>84408756
milligan and malvo are nothing alike other than being well spoken (which serve completely different purposes for their characters) and being good at killing people (which serve completely different purposes for their characters). milligan did not serve the same purpose in season 2 as malvo and season 1 at all, thank you for outing yourself.

lou didnt have plot armor at all, he was only in 1 situation where it could even be argued that he was saved by "plot armor," and that was to hit home a main theme of the season

no, it betrayed how little you understood about what the show was trying to do, and about how the coens make movies

File: IMG_0547.jpg (16KB, 305x165px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 305x165px

>putting any of the seasons above the movie

>>84408835

You can subvert this trope by making it a, "They were dead the whole time." scenario.

>>84408845
>DUDE THEY'RE NOTHING ALIKE
>...except for the ways they're alike...
>THEY'RE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THO

how old are you

>>84408756
>the black dude was clearly just the result of a formula checklist that demanded a malvo-type
Monologuing is a part of all the villains but Hanzee. Doesn't mean he's like Malvo... at all.
>the cop's plot armor made every scene with him pointless
This is stupid. Pretty good how the show made the scene at the typewriting shop and the Gerhardt farm and the Sioux Fall scenes intense considering we knew he couldn't die. Oh yeah and the Police station siege
>the aliens betrayed how little the showrunners understood the coen films.
How

>>84408883
I am white. My brother is white. We are not the same

>>84408887
if you thought those scenes were "intense" then you're just confirming the idea the only people enjoying/defending this trash are young, dumb, and thirsty for regurgitated cum.

>>84408883
did you even read my post? being well spoken and good at killing people doesnt make them similar, and especially because they didnt do anything similar when they were on screen. man you are thick

>>84408929
>being well spoken and good at killing people doesnt make them similar

>two characters sharing two huge defining character traits doesn't make them similar because they have some minor and token character traits that make them different

how
old
are
you

>>84408835
Like another anon said, Lou is the only with plot armor. EVERY other character is an unknown. If one character not dying takes you out, your an idiot. Plus he's the cop, he couldn't die

>>84408927
I think your just a jaded person.

>>84408975
>lou has the most screen time
>all his scenes are pointless

>none of these other characters are present or even mentioned, so they're all dead, so who gives a fuck

I bet you loved rogue one

>>84409006
or I'm aware its impossible to make a good prequel

>>84409010
>lou has the most screen time
I don't think he does
>all his scenes are pointless
No? Just because he can't die doesn't mean what he gives the story is pointless
>none of these other characters are present or even mentioned, so they're all dead, so who gives a fuck
But you don't know if they're gonna die.
You are actually just trying to find ways to hate the show at this point. you act like someone being able to die is the only thing worth watching

File: 1468541972591.png (526KB, 625x510px) Image search: [Google]

526KB, 625x510px

>>84408756
>these are the people that criticize the show
lol

>>84408835
There's no problem with that, and there's great prequels out there. But the season itself was shitty.

>>84409042
>Rise of the Planet of the Apes
>Xmen First class

>>84408845
Milligan is the coalburner's Malvo, I'm sorry that you're too much of a retard to realize this.
>to hit home a main theme of the season
>a main theme
It didn't appear again until E08. It could have been explained away as an aurora borealis or a flase in S01.

>>84409137
>dude prequels can be good!

>only two examples are new-continuity movies

... please talk to your doctor about mental retardation. This is serious.

>>84408835
How does it being a prequel ruin the illusion?
Are you an idiot.
Do you see the show and constantly think "This is a prequel doesn't matter"
Because then you can just look at any show and say "Hey, its fucking fake"
Your the type of guy that would unironically go
"This is Reddit, this is memes"

File: 1412745420271.png (423KB, 673x676px) Image search: [Google]

423KB, 673x676px

>>84408966
>minor and token traits
>characters are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
milligan barely even kills anyone the entire season you gigantic retard, and it isn't the focus of his character like malvo. malvo's entire character is also based on corrupting weaker, feebler minds for fun, milligan is all about climbing the ranks to satisfy his own bravado

did you even watch the show my man?

>>84409177
they're prequels, don't move the goalposts

>>84409186
Its almost like you got so upset about the first line you were unable to read the second line.

>>84409169
aliens were mentioned in almost every single episode you absolute knuckledragger. they were a part of the main part of the main theme of the fucking season. holy shit

>>84409199
>corrupting weaker, feebler minds for fun
Like Simone?

>>84409209
I read it, but it doesn't make any fucking sense. Just because its a prequel, doesn't mean you can't get invested into the story.

>>84409207
the new ape movies were always branded as total reboots with zero connection to previous movies.

Same deal with first class.

Don't ignore information just because it weakens (or destroys) your arguments.

>>84409219
>he seduced simone for fun
so you really didnt watch the show did you

>>84409215
Nice head canon. They only appear in E01 as a light, then in E08, E09 and E10
>>84409233
This, it was shit but not because of being a prequel.

>>84409233
If you already know where everything is heading, all attempt at drama or suspense is pointless and insulting... if you aren't retarded, of course.

>>84409242
That's not true on either case.
I'm pretty sure they're still pushing the narrative that Apes is only kind of a soft reboot/still prequel

>>84409250
I didn't say it was ONLY for fun. Would you deny Malvo fucked with Stavros Milos' mind for fun although he got profits from it?

>>84409273
>tries to defend fargo
>doesn't know shit about other movies

... yea I guess that's pretty ipso facto...

>>84409267
You say that, but that literally isn't true. All you know going in is that Lou will survive, and something bad happens at Sioux Falls, which is never actually clarified what had happened.
It probably helps people get sucked in because you start to get excited about what will happen.

>>84409267
Nah, well made prequels are good despite that. What is more, some movies manage to create great tension despite you knowing exactly what's about to happen in a given scene.

>>84409306
malvo fucked with stavros primarily for fun. he doesnt care about money nearly as much as just fucking with people and being the predator. see the elevator scene for blatant, obvious proof of that

>>84409251
>Nice head canon. They only appear in E01 as a light, then in E08, E09 and E10
This is wrong. They're involved every episode, and even abduct Hanzee
But clearly you didn't pay attention

>>84409357
>abduct Hanzee
>indian spiritual rituals are "getting abducted" now
lmao

>>84409242
>set in the same universe
>zero connection
youre pretty dumb, huh. zero connections means you wont see characters from planet of the apes in the new movies. doesnt mean they arent prequels, because they are. they depict the events preceding the main series. xmen even has some of the same characters

>>84409310
First class is literally a prequel to Xmen. It wasn't rebooted until Days of Future PAst kinda redid things. even then its just a different timeline. Still a prequel
Rise, and I've seen this many times, was atleast said to be building up to the first movie. Now maybe not, but Rise was intended as a prequel

>>84409335
the way lou describes sioux falls in season 1 automatically indicates "total bloodbath everyone dies the end."

it would've been more surprising had the gerhardts done something other than all died.

>>84409382
>indian spiritual rituals are "getting abducted" now
huh?

>>84409392
>>84409401
I can understand how a pair of kids who's only exposure to any sort of fiction is "shit on basic cable" would have no awareness of the concepts of retcons. As such we have no choice but to agree to disagree on this subject, as you simply lack the literacy to be aware you're trying to argue fact out of existence.

>>84409251
they are mentioned in other episodes, which is what i said. they also appear in the episode where ed grinds up rye, making them appear or be mentioned in 6/10 episodes minimum

>>84409409
Funny though, because that isn't the end. I agree we knew people were gonna die, but that wasn't the crux of the story. We didn't know who was gonna die. And we still had Peggy/ed and Hanzee. Just because we have an idea, doesn't mean its pointless to tell a good story. We knew again, 2 things were going to happen, that's it

>>84409458
>youre wrong, heh, nuthin personnel, stupid kids....
bravo grandpa

>>84409458
First class didn't retcon shit.
>>84409472
They're in every single episode

>>84409485
You're mixing fact and opinion, son.

>>84409530
How

>>84409548
you liked the characters.

>>84409585
What the fuck are you talking about.

>>84409458
Doesn't matter if it retconned anything (First Class didn't) Its still a fucking prequel

>>84409638
creating entirely new continuity is different from a prequel

>>84409602
how you felt about the quality of the characters is an opinion. You liked the characters. This is an opinion.

>>84409664
days of future past created a new continuity, not first class
>anon in charge of knowing about the movie he's arguing about

>>84408481
>What is Star Wars?

>>84409664
It's not. Still connects to the first Xmen (|Until Days of Future Past muddles it up, but even then I'm not sure it changes it)

>>84409688
I said literally nothing about the quality of the characters

>>84409690
mystique and xavier had nothing resembling any hint of history in the original batch of xmen movies.

ya know, just as a start.

>>84408616
my cossack husbando

>>84409758
No, you're talking about how much you liked them.

They were objectively shit, as that's the entire shtick of fargoTV

>>84409768
Retconning something doesn't mean its not a prequel you fucking idiot

>>84393422
season 3 was pure kino.

>>84409799
Creating entirely new continuity does preclude something from being a prequel.

This is fact.

>>84409793
I never said whether I liked them or not. I said their names because We had no idea what would happen to them.

>>84409818
Not only is that not a fact, but first class didn't do that. You claim to know so much about what you're talking about, but don't know the differences between movies. (DoFP doesn't retroactively make First class not a prequel)

>>84409818
that means the star wars prequels arent prequels. or that mostly any prequel isnt a prequel. so i guess prequels dont actually exist

>>84409823
well, you're still an idiot, as it's obvious from the moment they're introduced that the stupid bitch was going to die and hanzee was going to keep on keepin on

File: the-myth-of-sisyphus-dodd-and-lou-almost-dance.jpg (119KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 1366x768px

Dodd is best boy

>>84409850
peggy didnt die though you idiot

>>84409845
>first class didn't manufacture out of thin air entirely new stories that contradict stuff in the first batch of movies

... this will be your last (you) on this subject.

>>84395166
I keep remembering the scene from the cartoon where the robot that is supposed to represent Carrie Coons gets shut down by the Varga voiced supervisor. I wonder if that was supposed to represent how it would all play out in the case as well

>>84409881
oh wow what a subversion of expectations

>>84409850
Peggy didn't die. Plus going by the past Movie and season, seemed reasonable Hanzee would die. Watch the show idiot.

>>84409850
You're a retard. Lmao

>>84409917
Again, retconning doesn't make it not a prequel. Your the one making me give the (You)'s with your fucking stupidity

>>84409956
I have, its shit. But you seem to enjoy sucking shit directly out of an asshole. So more power to you. You'd probably think the coen films are knockoffs of the show, despite the fact they predate it.

>>84409951
>youre so dumb for feeling tension in this season that was a flashback, theres no tension if we know everything that happens, making the whole season pointless!
>oh but i didnt know what would happen to character a or character b
>LOL IT'S OBVIOUS CHARACTER a WILL DIE AND CHARACTER b WILL LIVE, LOOK, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED! IDIOT!
>character a survived though
>,,,
>WELL UR STILL STUPID!

>>84409981
But you didn't know Peggy didn't die
Or were you pretending to be retarded?

>>84409979
creating an entirely new story does, in fact, preclude something from being a prequel.

>>84409998
>>84410003
there was nothing about peggy that could indicate any capacity to not get killed. so if she does survive, its just the "lol tru story bro" bullshit the show uses to justify any contrivance.

>>84410006
So wait. Making a prequel without said story being hinted at makes it not a prequel, but if you hint at said story and said story gets made, its ruined because some how that takes people out of the story?
No

>>84410040
Don't you have some Walking Dead to catch up on?

>>84410045
Going back and redoing stuff, introducing new themes, and allowing those themes to develop in a manner that may contradict the works that are set later does is not making a prequel, yes.

>>84410040
You say you watched the show. We know you didn't. Now you're saying that Peggy should have died? Why? Because she killed Rye and made stupid mistakes?
I guess Jerry should have died in the movie

>>84410065
>if you don't like the shit I like you like the shit I don't like

there's some reality television that compares favorably to the walking dead. Using that as your baseline of quality is quite telling.

>>84410070
retconning small stuff, and having different themes does not make it not a prequel. Should all movies in a franchise have the exact same theme?

>>84410087
I dropped the second season the episode before the aliens deus ex machina'd all over the audience's face. The entire second season was pointless and once the writers revealed they were literally just making up random shit there was no point in watching.

But hey, that black feller sure says some smart soundin stuff! and whoa! hanzee became the boss! epic!!

>>84410040
son you are straight up retarded

>>84410096
>being this triggered over a joke
Hit home did I?
Tune in to AMC's The Walking Dead this fall to find out who dies! Maybe it's DARYL!!

>>84410110
creating whole new stories that contradict previously existing, but set-later stories does in fact preclude something from being a prequel.

I'm not sure why you're having trouble understanding this.

>>84410131
There were aliens in the first episode, so you didn't even watch that.

>>84410146
>dude I was joking I guess ur mad lol

... I see you've exhausted your capacity to defend fargoTV.

>>84410131
>The entire second season was pointless
How
>once the writers revealed they were literally just making up random shit there was no point in watching
What made you think that
>aliens deus ex machina'd all over the audience's face
Its literally isn't a deus ex machina, given the fact that its established in the first episode and literally every episode after. Establishing the themes and shaping events

>>84410164
What exactly contradicts Xmen 1

>>84410177
>>84410201
there was a blue light that was established as a reflection off a balloon

the light was irrelevant to the events of the episode

>>84410131
Autism awareness month was April.
Please alert your handler so she can give you some fun legos to play with instead.

File: ebin.gif (2MB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 500x500px

>>84410164
youre wrong, and youre stupid. according to you prequels do not exist, so you can have fun thinking that while the rest of the world goes on using the usual definition.

>>84410221
huh

>>84410220
mystique being the first mutant xavier ever met

>>84409875
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Dodd Gerhardt the irate?

>>84410193
I hear there's a tiger on the show.
That must be so exciting for you.

>>84393422
>Every season was good
absolutely incorrect
the last season was trash

>>84410245
I don't think this contradicts anything. Jean was just his first student

>>84410235
So now you're claiming, with a le ebin faec, that all prequels introduce stuff that contradicts works that take place later in the chronology.

Its nice to see you have completely destroyed your own argument.

>>84409938
>the Varga voiced supervisor
u wot m8

>>84410271
>Its not immediately satisfying
>Some inconsistencies
>Means its trash
fuck off

File: epin.gif (1MB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 500x500px

>>84410281
no, that's not at all what my post implied. thank you for immediately trying to warp it into something else to fit your narrative. good try!

>>84410281
Name (2) that don't

>>84410308
You misunderstood a basic fact, and twisted it, to serve an idiotic idea, that you projected onto someone else.

Its okay, I'll let you think you've won. You can have the last word even!

>>84410329
I can name three.

Also the original planet of the apes prequel, if you want to count The prequels as just one.

>>84408758

Where is the one with the writing on a black page going on how he has been pretend everything is ok when it wasn't and how he was thanking everyone who consoled him, took him out for coffee etc

File: 1440906767333.png (666KB, 960x854px) Image search: [Google]

666KB, 960x854px

>>84410330
no, that's exactly what you did, and now youre trying to play it off on me without ever even going back to my post and rereading it to figure out what i actually said. dont you have some summer reading to catch up on lad? it'll really do you some good it looks like

>>84410348
>I can name 3
>Names 1
what did he mean by this?

>>84410302
>its poorly written shit
>means its good
wew daysue

>>84410371
fact: going back in the chronology and establishing new continuity is not a prequel.

I'm not even sure what you were trying to say. You seem to have just spouted gibberish.

>>84410372
... uh, bruh, he named four.

>>84410388
Exaggerating that much doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look like an idiot. Something isn't just Amazing or shit anon, theres an inbetween area

>>84410452
the character of varga is basically an admission from the showrunner that all three seasons were vomit.

>>84410407
Retconning doesn't immediately make it a new continuity. You keep saying that, and its false.
I guarantee the Apes movie had inconsistencies, sadly I haven't seen them to be sure

File: Screenshot_2017-06-17-21-21-33.png (824KB, 720x1280px) Image search: [Google]

824KB, 720x1280px

>>84410349
gotcha buddy

>>84410484
How so? It was probably the best villain in the whole saga.

>>84410497
>Retconning doesn't immediately make it a new continuity

...

the term "RETCON" is an abbreviation of "RETROACTIVE CONTINUITY"

so, yes, by definition retconning is always new continuity

File: 1430112629939.gif (685KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

685KB, 500x500px

>>84410407
your fact is a) poorly defined/worded and b) wrong, and if it were true, no prequels would be prequels. thus, nobody cares about the fact you use to say prequels are prequels, and we are all going to go on using the regular definition of prequels

you also forgot to mention the part of your definition that you mentioned earlier, that prequels should have the same themes and tone as the previous movies, which is just as foolish

>>84410528
By definition, its still a fucking prequel

>>84410529
Better Call Saul doesn't retcon anything and it's a prequel. kys

>>84410500
Lmao ;_;

Which social media account did he post it on and when because I can't seem to find it

File: wrenched.png (918KB, 1861x1188px) Image search: [Google]

918KB, 1861x1188px

>>84410500
I wonder how he feels now that Russell Harvard has almost deafinitely given MEW a good wrenching

>>84410613
Probably deleted it

>>84410452
trying to sound smart while insulting someone else doesnt make you right
it just makes you sound butthurt as fuck
season 3 was trash barbage

>>84410526
there are three binge/purge sessions in season 3.

The first is a very large, very fine meal, of a great many expertly crafted dishes. Varga chokes it down and vomits it up as a colorless mess.

The second is a small family meal, lovingly, but not expertly prepared. Varga chokes it down and vomits it up as a colorless mess.

The third is short order cook fare. Prepared with no real care or craft. Varga chokes it down and vomits it up as a colorless mess.

Three meals, three seasons, three toilets filled with vomit.

Varga represents the show, the toilet is FX, the meals, especially the first one, represents the coen filmography.

File: 1428801269795.jpg (29KB, 499x499px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 499x499px

>>84410561
well i cant say ive seen bcs or breaking bad, but ive heard that they are thematically and tonally different. i also dont know much about mike or saul, but did saul say or give indication he knew mike so well before bb happened? i believe he mentioned he knew gus.

also, the show isn't over, id be willing to bet it will "retcon" something before it's up

also, if bcs is a prequel then the rise of the planet of the apes movies are also prequels, which is one of the first things you disagreed with. BTFO

>>84410645
Explain why its trash

File: 4377fc7a0cb8c63b5dddeadec7bbcd81.jpg (21KB, 377x325px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 377x325px

>>84410625
Think Riley has rebounded and fucked anyone yet?

Even at least paid who-ares

>>84410652
This falls apart because season 2 is the best

>>84410659
the new ape movies were specifically sold as reboots. charlton heston isn't going to show up.

They also automatically retcon the original planet of the apes prequel.

>>84410686
Most people prefer a family meal to eating alone in a restaurant. This doesn't mean the food is better.

>>84410721
kek
I like it, but acting like that's an actual reason is stupid

File: IMG_20170515_183057.jpg (141KB, 480x744px) Image search: [Google]

141KB, 480x744px

>>84410625
>I will always love you
Oh, shit. Those are the words Riley said to her in his cucked divorce post.

File: epil.png (28KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 600x600px

>>84410693
i dont give a shit what they were sold as, that has no influence on what is depicted in the movies or the continuity

and how so

>>84410745
ya lost me

>>84410668
explain why its meh, like you previously stated

File: mission impossible.gif (480KB, 365x203px) Image search: [Google]

480KB, 365x203px

>>84410613
Instagram but it was an instagram story (IG's Snapchat clone). They self-destruct after 24 hours.

>>84410676
He still texts MEW lol, so I'm thinking no.

>>84410763
Acting like Varga isn't a good villain because of those "admissions" is stupid. No matter how funny

>>84410760
So you're just ignoring how the new ape movies completely retcon conquest of the planet of the apes.

Hell, wikipedia lists the new movies as a reboot series.

Goddamn dude.

File: epic.png (12KB, 165x115px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 165x115px

>>84410798
i asked you how they retconned them, i never denied it

>>84410788
how about the regurgitation of the malvo arrest as the final scene?

Or the fact the character was built entirely around befuddling the weak of mind (anyone still watching this puke) with clever turns of phrase?

>>84410816
conquest of the planet of the apes has apes as just being niggers in a contemporary world and they eventually just rebel and take over.

the reboot series is post-apocalypse.

>>84410779
I think its good, with flaws.
Gloria is the weakest link. She either should have made a difference or reduced her screentime. however as a characters she's great. Episode 3 was great, but didn't fit with the season
Ray was okay, didn't get enough screentime before he died in a really stupid but thematically satisfying way.
Emmit was pretty good, but didn't need to die
Nikki was fantastic, but kinda became a bad-ass out of nowhere.
Varga was amazing. Best character
Sy was also really tragic and well done, could have done a bit more though.
Moe was just meh.
Yuri was amazing, Meemo was just okay.
The themes were great. Ending was great, couldn't have been better as far as Gloria/varga

>>84410659
>well i cant say ive seen bcs or breaking bad, but ive heard that they are thematically and tonally different. i also dont know much about mike or saul, but did saul say or give indication he knew mike so well before bb happened? i believe he mentioned he knew gus.
He says something like "my own fixer turned on me" complaining to Walt.
>also, the show isn't over, id be willing to bet it will "retcon" something before it's up
I suspect the exact opposite, Vince is meticulous.
>also, if bcs is a prequel then the rise of the planet of the apes movies are also prequels, which is one of the first things you disagreed with. BTFO
I didn't watch any of those and I'm not the guy who disagreed, I just agreed with that guy.

>>84410784
He does?

How do you know this?

>>84410822
Here's the thing. You say the show is trash, then go on to explain really well done things, if that is indeed what Hawley was going for

>>84410784
what?
JUST

File: elvin.png (10KB, 200x194px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 200x194px

>>84410842
well then i was wrong about it fitting into your definition, but not about your definition being wrong. so youre still wrong, just not as wrong. at least youre consistent sticking to your silly definition

>>84410779
It's a great character study unlike S2 which only had meme characters because they were so many.

>>84410910
whatever, see you next season. when you try to say something is different and the show lost it's magic, despite it just being the same puke it always was.

>>84410954
Fargo hasn't been bad.

>>84410932
>whoops, crux of my argument got destroyed

>lol ur still wrong thou
>le ebin imaeg

...

>>84410882
Oh look. someone wrote something that wasn't just "Its shit" or just "Its amazing"

>>84410999
If you look closely, you'll see its just "it's amazing."

>>84410980
>crux of my argument
>had nothing to do with my argument that was about your definition being wrong, and only a side attempt to catch you in a contradiction where you hadnt actually contradicted yourself
pffttthaha. and im out of faces so have a home grown :0)

>>84411036
I know, its hard to get people to contradict a fact.

>>84410906
People were posting screenshots of them talking about Ryan Gosling via texts and I think they were post-breakup, I can't seem to find them anywhere

>>84411063
sure thing pal, enjoy living in your fantasy land with your definition that literally nobody uses :^)

>>84411094
>it's a Riley and Ryan reenact the bar cuck scene from Crazy Stupid Love and Riley gets his shit together and starts slaying 10/10 pusy episode

>>84411120
>I don't understand the difference between retcon and prequel so no one does

>mfw u hav no faec

>>84411139
Retconning doesn't make it not a prequel

>>84410941
>hur dur character study
every drama is a character study
and that still sounds like youre overrating it
its shit and you have shit taste

>>84411139
i understand what a prequel is and i understand what a retcon is. i also understand that prequels can contain retcons, something you have a serious problem wrapping your head around. like i said, it's fine, just know that nobody else thinks the same way you do

everyone treats the star wars prequels as prequels despite them being riddled with retcons. :^)

>>84411161
mmmh, yea, it does

prequels ain't retcons, retcons ain't prequels

>>84411178
see
>>84410882
stop saying its shit. Doesn't mean anything if you give no reasons

>>84411203
No seriously, stop

>>84411178
>every drama is a character study
wrong
>>84411244
not him but while both prequels and retcons are spinoffs, they are mutually exclusive

>>84411200
the star wars prequels were extremely careful to never touch anything that was established in the OT. All they did was add new information. Some of it was horrible, but they didn't directly contradict things in the OT.

Retcons in the prequels would necessitate an entirely new 4, 5, and 6.

>>84411217
you have shit taste
third season is trash
youre a faggot

>>84411268
Why did Leia remember her mom if she died in child birth

>>84411268
padme dies in childbirth
1 minute old leia remembers that her mother was very beautiful

uh oh, that ONE inconsistency negates all of the prequels. :^)

>>84411311
>>84411318
da furce

>>84411306
This is why you aren't gonna ever be taken seriously

>>84411268
First class didn't contradict anything, just added NEW INFORMATION

>>84411376
wrong though. mystique and charles having history renders the actions of both completely nonsensical in the original batch of movies.

>>84411341
>he comes to 4chan for serious discussion
this is how i know youre a dumbass
third season is shit and you have shit taste daysue
ps. youre a faggot nigger

>>84411311
>>84411318
>hurr durr what are pictures
>hurr durr why wouldn't a baby mutant or whatever leia is remember things from when she was a newborn

>>84411421
How. Because he doesn't act like they're old pals?

>>84411422
reddit

>>84411447
Neither are those are excuses. And the force doesn't work like that

>>84411447
sorry no, not what happened. not a prequel :^)

>>84411476
the force is well established as being able to show people visions of the future, the present, and the past.

>>84411472
>r-reddit :'(
faggit :^)
ps. third season a shit

>>84411487
how do you know there's no pictures of her mom off-camera that Leia sees as a kid?

>>84411495
Well if we just assume that everything can be explained by things not seen, then maybe everything has a logical explanation

>>84405385
>>84405268
The man whoa wasn't there at imdb.net

>>84411557
or we can just chalk up leia's memories of natalie portman as her force sensitivity showing her what she wanted to remember. Cause all these themes are established pretty well by the OT.

>>84411531
because that isnt what she meant in the scene where she discusses it

>>84410758
>tfw you're waifu a shit

>>84411422
>4chan is a place to shitpost
Its summer already?

>>84411649
summer starts in may when kids start getting out for summer vacation, hits full force in june, when everyones out for summer, then peaks sometime in august.

>>84411649
>implying you dont just come here to post your dumbass theories anonymously
>implying you dont just come here to steal other peoples theories to claim as your own
>implying this place is a place for serious deep discussion when what your discussion 90% of the time is utter shit
:^)
third season is shit and youre a pretentious faggit born after 1995

>>84411707
lol I wish I was born after 1995, at least I wouldn't be a fucking millennial
I loathe my generation

>>84411729
>you're either young or retarded
>HAHA JOKES ON YOU I'M NOT YOUNG

...

>>84411729
>lol
>i loathe my generation
>loathe
>*tips trilby he mistakenly calls a fedora*
>doesnt deny anything i said
wew

>>84411760
>implying you said anything about being retarded in the post I replied to
You seem to think a deal can be changed at any moment and you couldn't be more wrong.
>>84411781
>le fedora neckbeard meme
kys
Gen X yuppies=Gen Z>Gen Y aka millennials

>>84411900
>being this much of a cringey butthurt omega permavirgin faggot nigger summerkid nufag redditor
facebook meme saving sam hyde defending wannabe poser "oldfag" memester cancer
kys :^)

>>84411948
>redditor resorts to projection and memes when he runs out of arguments and thinks le ebic faec makes him right
how typical
I wish summer was over already

>>84411984
>spends his entire summer indoors having "serious discussions" about shitty movies and tv shows
you seem upset :^)

>>84412091
>>84411984
just fuck already

>>84412091
>4chan is a place to shitpost
go back to reddit CUCK

>>84412151
you wish faggit nigger
>>84412170
>cuck
#TRIGGERED /pol/tard btfo
fargo season 3 sucks and youre a summerfag newfag niggerfag :^)

>>84412396
>the absolute state of S2-defending children

>>84412591
>the absolute state
pretentious butthurt teenager trying to sound smart :^)

File: top ebin.png (54KB, 507x464px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 507x464px

>>84412617
really made me think
I wish I was a teenager, at least I wouldn't be a FUCKING MILLENNIAL

>>84412851
shhh serious discussion is happening :^)

>>84412880
kys

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVPqpnZlc8H/?hl=en

OK MEW is fucking the deaf guy isn't she?

And what's up with this?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVoLuZPgrza/?hl=en

Are they poking fun at Riley's pathetic break up post? Didn't he say something along the lines of I will always love you?

>>84412917
what year were you even born in? you seem obsessed about "millennials" :^)

>>84412940
He did, look above
>>84410625
>>84410758

>>84412974
1991

>>84412940
Either he's gay or they fuckin desu. Unless he's one of those Deaf people that refuse to get involved with hearing people.

Also I doubt he's poking fun at anyone, from what I hear from people who have met him he's a fuckin ball of sunshine and wouldn't be mean to someone publicly like that.

>>84413013
im older therefor more betterer than you :^)
ps. farTgo sucks

File: vlcsnap-2017-06-29-03h48m51s250.png (280KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

280KB, 640x360px

>>84412940
What did he mean by this?

>>84413043
shut up kid
you're a shitty millennial too, of the worse kind that isn't even near being a gen Z

>>84413064
no u shuddup :^)

>>84413080
fuck off gramps
go watch Matlock

>>84413113
ok, i like matlock :^)4

>>84413146
as expected, I bet you also like Perry Mason

>>84413166
and in the heat of the night nigger

>>84413049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKpXTy-sCxg