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Riker wouldn't have been friends with any of us. He treated ensigns and other low ranking crewmen like insects.

>>84376914
This is true. You can see especially so in certain episodes. Like in Tapestry where Picard becomes one of the medical personnel and Troi and Riker shit on him.

Really all of the senior officers were arrogant assholes.

>>84376914
Riker gets more pussy before lunch than any of us will in our life. He has no reason to be friends with us.

Just started season 2 of TNG enjoying it okay so far. Definitely feel a jump on quality from the first season. But y'all say that TNG doesn't get good until season 3 or later? I'm probably still going to watch them all just wanted to know what episodes i really need to look out for are

>>84377134
Season 3 onwards is when the actors really start to fit their parts and feel more natural. The crew becomes more set and dynamics start to form. The story lines become a bit more natural and fresh. It loses that dated feel of the original series while still keeping it Star Trek.

Riker is a huge stripper hound IRL.

t. met him several times at different stripper bars in portland over quite a few years. Think he was in town most recently for librarians but i don't keep up with shit.

>>84377006
yet he fell in love with a hologram like a pathetic beta cuck

>it's a "sisko has a midlife crisis, grows a beard and builds a wooden ancient bajoran spaceship" episode

>>84377347
You say that like every single person in the world didn't automatically know that without anyone needing to tell them.

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>>84377460
Oy vey goy! Didnt you know that the Bajorans were a warp-capable race far before the other races of the alpha quadrant!?

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"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

>>84377563
WE

>>84377460
>Sisko can make a 16th century Bajoran sail ship using only ancient blueprints
He's the best engineer tbqh

>>84377619
WUZ

>DS9 S3 E23

I love ferengi episodes

>>84377931
ASTRONAUTS

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>>84377563
>Ancient space faring shit
>It's made out of fucking wood
explain this bullshit

>>84377612
Do they even lift?

>>84378148

Nobody can. Was it assembled in space? How would a wood rocket capable of exit velocity survive? Humans figured out metal alloy pretty early.

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I picked this up at Goodwill. Is it any good?

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>>84376879
To be honest I didn't notice his weight gain that much. Was it really that bad?

>>84378536
Sounds like someone needs a little more faith in the Prophets

>>84377134
S2 has some decent to top tier episodes, like Measure of a Man and Q Who, but S3 is when it starts consistently great.

Also skip Shades of Gray, it's literally a clip show

>>84377002

Thats not true. They even explain by saying that, that version of Picard is all talk yet does nothing to achieve his goal because he plays it safe and takes no risks.

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Was Dukat's downfall his unquenchable thirst for Bajoran poon?

>>84380206
post more dumb ds9 garbage itt, fag

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>>84380206
Dukat's downfall was not killing all Bajoran workers and turning Terok Nor into a shining beacon of Cardassian superiority over inferior species.

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>Picard: Alright Sisko, your job is to make sure Bajor joins the Federation eventually
>[Several seasons later]
>Sisko: Well I ended the Dominion War, found out I'm half ayy lmao, I'm the chosen one, and I left my wife knocked up and abandoned my son. Also I died or sumthin and I never got around to making Bajor a federation planet

>>84380796
t. never watched the show

He interrupted Bajor signing the very last treaty, obviously they'd just do it again after the war

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>>84380839
>obviously they'd just do it again after the war
Nice head canon

>>84380874
Sisko said in that same episode that he knew they would join the Fed

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>>84380897
Yeah they he went to the great Celestial Temple in the sky. Why would Bajor even need the Federation anymore? Cardassia is gone and the Dominion has been pacified.

>>84380943
The Bajorans got conquered once and their space occupied twice in 60 years. They'd have be retarded not to join

shit you're right

>>84380943
There are Romulans. They even made a move and tried to entrench themselves in the neighbourhood. There's still a Borg threat and who knows what other dangers, Bajor isn't exactly a military superpower.

>>84381030
Also, who can guarantee Odo (remove solids!!1) and Garak (revenge!!1) wouldn't change their minds and stir some other conflict?

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>>84381075
>Odo melds with the liquid jew for years
>hears every bad story and hard feeling towards the solids over their entire existence
Wtf I hate solids now!

>>84381126
The Mirror universe fundamentally needs to answer some questions. Is it really a separate universe, or is it, like the name implies, just a reflection of the Prime reality? If that's the case, do the people living there really have free will? Are they even "people" as we'd define them?

Take the original Mirror ep, the other Enterprise just happens to be over the same planet, at the same time, with the exact same landing party, and an identical crew, what are the chances? McCoy even sees a spill in the lab that he made a year ago.

>>84378148
uhh... tachyons

>>84376879
>how Barclay sees Riker

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>>84381267
kek

Garak and Ziyal deserved better

>>84381760
I like how Damar gets so much love here and people completely ignore the fact that he killed the innocent girl just like that, for not being a "good daughter" for his idol Dukat and not being a patriot.

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Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

You are allowed to delete three episodes from Star Trek.

Nobody will have any memory of these three episodes, they will have never been produced and they will cease to be canon.

Which three are they?

>>84382086
the last episode of TNG, DS9 and VOY

>>84382086
The Global warming one in TNG
The Ferengi cross-dressing

>>84382086
I've got some pretty safe picks.
That one episode where they go past warp 10 and turn into slimy lizards
That one where Quark is a woman
And then I can't think of a third

>>84382086
Sub Rosa
Janeway and Paris turn into lizards
Tranny Quark gets raped by Slug'OCola brand owner

>>84382131
>>84382130
>>84382127
>they don't like profit and lace

It's a good episode

>>84382174
Pretending to like that episode is a pleb filter anon

>>84382181
I unironically enjoyed it

Fite me

>>84382086
All the mirror episodes of DS9
All the good ones in VOY.

>>84382202
No it's ok I don't mind people liking things I don't.

>>84382174
>>84382202
VOY ruined the Borg and DS9 made Ferengi awesome at first but ultimately ruined them too with all that Ishka's crap about equality and change and Rom becoming the Grand Nagus. Don't you think so?

>>84382202
Fuck off you're not allowed to like things I don't

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>>84382228
you monster

>>84382249
Nothing's ruined, they can even keep the Ferengi changes, just have the women be as greedy as the men, which is what they showed in DS9

>>84382249
I'm not very fond of DS9's last episodes because it plays too safe.
It was kind of obvious they were going in that direction with the Ferengi because they planned on making the Ferengi, everyone's favorite race, join the federation.

>>84382249
>What if we just started inventing weaknesses for the borg?
>We'll call it... a Vinculum!
Granted Infinite Regress was cool but continually punching holes into the Borg is so tiresome.

I want them to go back to being wholly incomprehensible. Not villainous space zombies but with motives and purpose so different from we can truly comprehend as individuals that any seemingly hostile action is their failing to consider how they must seem to those who are so much "smaller"

>>84382249
Yes, the turnaround in ferengi society was too quick, but the writers inadvertently left a hole in the whole thing:

Societal values were never shown to change, the only change was from the ferengi government with top-down reforms in taxation, social security, legalising rights for women etc.

Rom would not last as grand nagus, he would be displaced in a month and their society would return to normal. Zek was senile and simply followed his dick (lobes), the writers accidentally let in some red-pill by having him be the one to spearhead women's rights and then appoint the retard as the next king.

tfw working my way through the original series for the first time.

Working my way through the 'important' season 1 episodes first, not sure if I should finish all the important episodes of the overall series first or if I should finish up the season before moving forward to the next.

Just got Errand of Mercy and then City on the Edge of Forever left in regards to important season 1 episodes, which I'm really looking forward to because apparently the latter is essential trekino.

>>84382321
I'm a little ahead of you on a TOS watch. I thought Errand of mercy was better than COTEF 2bqh. Kor is god tier

>>84382310
>Rom would not last as grand nagus, he would be displaced in a month and their society would return to normal.

Close to this, especially because Rom had basically no money when he became Nagus, no way the major Ferengi would respect him. I also like to imagine big Ferengi CEOs being like Bill Gates/Michael Jordan wrapped into one in terms of being idolised celebrities, and if they talk shit about Rom then the people will follow.

>>84382379
Didn't the Nagus create a council of sorts?

>>84382127
>The Global warming one in TNG
That one was good, it made "warp 9" mean something again.

>>84382379
The Ferengi government was willing to put up with a philanthropist Grand Nagus for quite a while.
I imagine if the market doesn't tank then there's be no reason to kick him out.

>>84376914
btfo by chad

>>84382573
>was willing to put up with a philanthropist Grand Nagus

Wasn't he kicked on the spot and then Brunt briefly took over?

Garak really likes disintegrating people doesn't he?

>>84382617
Because he crashed the market. Moogie wasn't there to save it.

>>84381201
The mirror universe doesn't make much sense given that the massive differences in hostility and military aggression ought to mean that more than enough divergence to cause the birth/existence of any of the characters we know to never occur.

>>84382617
Different episode, he was a philanthropist in the episode where Quark talks to the prophets, he goes senile in the one Brunt takes over

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>>84382202
>fite me
>not rike me

Disappointed

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Why the Section 31 had to appear only in the last season, it was such a fucking great plotline

>>84382617
No, that was a different ep. In this one he goes philanthropic but Quark prevents him from removing the new Rules of Acquisition, which would get him killed.

What did the reconstructed Cardassian government under Garak's design look like?

How influenced was he by federation values in the reconstruction of cardassia?

Gosh I love the Cardassians. I love the way they look and so many Cardassians are great when they're on screen.

>>84382675
It was much more stylish

>>84382664
Because Section 31 only got powerful during the war, when people high up decided they needed black ops type shit.

>>84382675
Why would Garak lead the new government? The people don't know him, and all his life he's preferred to work behind the scenes. His past in the Obsidian Order won't have made him many friends either.

>>84382675
>Garak creates a republic
>Garak reconstructs the obsidian order
>Obsidian order is institutionally seperate and does not report to the detapa council and is filled with actual patriots
>keeps the civilian government in check whilst not controlling the government
>basically iran's revolutionary guard

>>84382751
btw Broca the 'I believe in the founders' faggot was in the prison that Garak and co escaped from, he was such a massive cuck

>>84382928
He was a great character despite his very short time on screen

>>84382928
Wasn't he the only black cardie we see in the series?

>>84382974
Yea he played it well, its weird he's uncredited in the prison ep but its definently him, same make up and everything

>make your ship's wiring out of "bio-neural circuitry"
>it's vulnerable to infectious diseases

What the fuck were they thinking

>>84383003
Only one that was an actual character, their might have been background ones, maybe

>>84383020
Yeah, that was fucking stupid.
If they really wanted a new generation of computers (even though the writer never did anything with the supposedly more powerful computers) why didn't they choose positronics?

NO, WAIT, I BELIEVE IN THE DOMINION

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>>84383020
Fucking Voyager, there was so much potential, a lonely ship stuck in unexplored space, two crews with different views. All pretty much wasted.

Question:
Did the alien species all spoke english? I know about the UT, but sometimes they speak in their own languages.

>>84383144
No its just a conceit, virtually every movie or TV show does that, you can assume when Klingons are alone their speaking klingonese same with all the other species

>>84383246
Yeah, I guess that, but did they all just learned english in the Klingon Elementary of Battle?

>>84383246
>klingonese
Isn't it just 'Klingon' since TNG?

>>84376914
Riker was a Chad and we would all be mocked behind our backs like Broccoli.

Evolved humanity my arse.

>>84383289
Kors guy called it klingonese in the tribble ep, both TOS and Ds9, though you could argue he was just really drunk and kinda an asshole

>>84383285
No they speak Klingon, they also have UTs so does your tv

>>84383320
TOS isn't canon

>>84383320
They just used the old footage, that doesn't really count.

>>84380796
>>84380839
>>84380874
>>84380943
They joined the federation by 2409, before the dominion fleet that got ayylmaoed by the prophets in season 6 finale turns up again and takes DS9.

STO is more canon than JJverse

>>84383320
Though he says it funny, like
>That's why they're learning to speak Klinonee! (laughs)
and "Kling o'nee" sounds like a language a small tribe of pacific islanders whose population goes into the hundreds at most speak

>>84377563
But Major Kirasteinberg, how did you propel your ship into orbit? You still need a significantly powerful rocket to achieve orbit of such a payload with that level of technology.

How did it land, take off again from Cardassia and fight the solar winds for the return trip?

>>84383356
Lol your an idiot
>>84383358
I couldn't be bothered getting into a debate about this right now, but you could say that the TOS translaters just weren't as good as TNG onwards, but w/e call the language what you like, I'll do the same

>>84383356
There's no fucking canon at all in ST universe. Inconsistencies and lazuiess all around. Execs and writers wipe their asses with "canon" in pretty much every series.

>>84383344
Yeah, but sometimes I hear klingon too. It's an UT malfunction? I thought it was supposed to be perfect

>>84383399
Yea its a odd line, your right it sounds like Chinese without the last E

>>84383423
Why would you think it was perfect? Especially TOS era ones

>>84383423
It's because the writer wants you to hear how the actual language sounds in that one important moment.

>>84383423
This >>84383441
Also Klingon is the only ST language that's fully functional the writers the actors everyone liked using it, but you can't have an entire ep of nothing but klingon closest they came was search for Spock and even then doc brown switches back and forth

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>>84378148
That episode jumped the shark when Gul Dukat and the Cardassians threw a space party with fire works to celebrate the ancient Bajorans...

>>84382130
I wouldn't get rid of Threshold, it's a monument to awfulness that we can all laugh at.

>>84383483
That was one of the comfiest Trek episodes tho

>You will never build an ancient Bajoran ship and go space-sailing with your dad on a long weekend

>>84382664
Sloan did nothing wrong.

>>84383540
Being trapped with Jake for days inside a small room...Black Wesley wouldnt survive the Journey.

>>84383483
Are there any other examples of "we wuz" in trek?

I mean ancient history which was "buried" for political reasons

>>84382664
A Section 31 spin-off would be great. Showing all the Black Ops action that REALLY changed the History of the Federation and the Alpha/Beta Quadrant.

>>84383621
those stupid dinosaur people from Voyager

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>>84383356
Fuck you.

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I am currently watching TNG. When should I start DS9?
Pic related says in the middle of season 6. Should I watch after 1 TNG, 1DS9, 1TNG, 1DS9 etc episode?
Or start DS9 when I am finished with TNG?

>>84383621
I honestly cant remember any. At least not on the Bajewen scale.

>>84383635
Doesn't matter. I'd say finish TNG first, but that's jut preference

>>84383630
Yes but they were technologically advanced. I think the other anon meant more something like Races that claimed to be superior once but fucked it all since the present.

>>84383621
All species share a common ancestor who seeded a dead galaxy.

>>84383688
Wasn't that ancient alien lady played by the same actress who played the female Founder? Or my mind is just playing tricks on me?

>>84383735
You're right, leading some to think it was the Founders who seeded the galaxy before evolving into the murder puddle.

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>>84383635
Do you have one of those for DS9?

Why do Bajoran officers show no humility?

>>84383688
Why was the galaxy dead? Something to do with the Iconians?

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>>84383767
Yes, but I don't have for the rest

>>84383855
Iconians came billion years later

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Ro Laren is so much better than Kira, Kira is just an annoying incessant whore whereas Ro Laren is graceful and perfect.
Kira isn't bad looking, its just Ro Laren is so much better in every way. When I started watching trek I couldn't wait to finish tos/tng to get to ds9 and watch Nana Visitor but now that I'm finally here a year later she just can't compare to Ensign Ro.

Ro Laren is a swan and Kira Nerys is a squawking parrot. She is a beautiful elegant swan and its so calming to watch her, it hurts that Michelle Forbes will never be that young ever again.

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>>84383878
> empok nor
> the one where Obrien goes full dirty Harry on Garaks Scorpio
OH SHIT

>create a holo-projector on your bridge
>only use it for one mission to communicate with one guy

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>>84384081
Kira is objectively superior in every single way to the traitorous Maquis scum Ro

>>84384126
It was tested, probably considered a useless gimmick and discontinued fast.

>>84383878
Here you go family
https://imgur.com/a/XwHGU

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>it's a ferengi episode
> special guest star iggy pop

>>84384379
That episode was kino though

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>>84384389
Was this one kino too?
> a group of cadets with a Defiant type ship save Jake and Nog
> it's better than JJ Star trek
> everyone dies except the chubby girl

>>84384464
Yes it was
>DS9 made fucking Nog a god tier character

>>84384464
>seeing space chads getting BTFO by their own hubris

Of courshe

Hypothetical Episode:

The crew of the USS _____ happen upon a planet whose culture has developed limited warp drive and, inexplicably, a macguffin technology that makes them distinct somehow. This planet's people also have simple cybernetics that allow them to link together and better coordinate. The people express excitement at better developing their warp technology to join the galactic community, but are confused when they notice that the crew of the USS whatever aren't linked like they are - they assumed that any space-faring race must surely have evolved beyond a strong sense of individualism and only achieved space flight through great coordination the likes of their cybernetics afford them, and then the reveal would be that their first actual contact with the galactic community was when they piqued the interest of the borg (somehow) but were passed up for assimilation due to their (at the time) technological irrelevance, and also at the time they assumed the galaxy was largely like themselves and the borg, which is to say closely linked

The crew would then spend most of the time in bewilderment that these people would want to willingly give themselves up to the Borg, the species are bewildered that anyone would choose to be so chaotic and unstructured as the crew are, crew argues that they could find that sense of unity and purpose in the federation, etc etc, episode ends with a sphere beaming some drones down and without a struggle the planet gives itself up to assimilation, standard captain and other officer interaction, roll credits.

Anyhow there's that half-baked idea

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>>84384498
He's always been a good midget

>>84378625
I was at a con where a former writer of star trek books was explaining how Frakes had to personally apporve how his likeness in all media appeared and used to be a real dick about it. Apparently he has since mellowed out.

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K I N O
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>>84384511
Sounds like a voyager episode

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>it's a Weyoun defects and is hunted down by Weyoun because weyoun died in a transporter accident

>>84384675
That's the weyoun the cookie crumbles

>>84384579
>Listen here you sub-human ape. You're not hunting targ in the jungles of Ko'nos anymore, you're on a starship around people who don't bathe in their own shit, consume tapeworms and call it honorable like your so-called "species" does. If I think you're even considering acting like your space nigger counterparts again I'll shove you out of the nearest airlock with that mongrel son of yours and any other coal burners like Troi with you. Is that understood, Lieutenant? I would put this in writing but I know your species only developed an alphabet 50 years ago and I'm pretty sure you never got round to learning it seeing as the only thing you do on this ship is press the "fire photons" button. I could replace you with one of those bobbing bird heads and I wouldn't even notice the fucking difference. No, scratch that, it would smell a hell of a lot better on the bridge.

Did they go too far?

>>84384464
The one episode I was cheering up for Jem'Hadar

>>84384728
I wanted them to get another kill in rocks and shoals

Why did Q called Worf microbrain? Do klingons have small brains?

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>>84384728
> not "to the death" where they blow an Iconian gateway

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Listening to this right now. His voice and range are not on par with Sinatra's but it's still cool. When I first watched DS9 about 5-6 years ago I didn't like Vic's character very much. But I've changed my mind.

>>84384808
Oh yeah, that one too! Forgot about it.

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>>84384802

>>84384716
Why was Picard such a human supremacist, he made Kirk look like a nice guy and that guy didn't lose a chance to belittle aliens

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>>84384819
Did you know Frank Sinatra Jr turned down the role?

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>you will never bang space qt's in zero-grav
Just die in my sleep already.

>>84384895
Picard doesn't respect anyone who can't speak French.

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>>84384081
>>84384178
>ywn have a threeway with two bossy Bajoran women

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>>84384925
I will make him respect me

Which character you hated\was annoyed with the most from each series?

TOS: Can't really think of anyone
TNG: Troi
DS9: Sometimes Kira was pretty annoying, but Jadzia takes the prize
VOY: B'Elanna, Janeway, Kim was annoying
ENT: Only watched it once so far, can't tell yet

What word of phrase do you fear STD will come out with but you know it probably will?

>White privilege

>>84384912
Yep, I remember reading about it. I can't remember why he declined.

>>84384985
>TOS
McCoy when he was there just to be an asshole
>TNG
Crusher
>DS8
Sisko
>VOY
EMH

>>84382086
These Are the Voyages
Spock's Brain
Caretaker

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>reddit's star trek forum

>>84385019
Because he didn't want to play a role based on his just recently deceased father

>>84384964
Il y a quatre lumières!

>>84385000
Nah, they'll make a painstakingly obvious analogy to white privilege but call it "human privilege" or something like that

>>84384985
TNG: Woof, Laforge, and Dr Crusher
VOY: Chocho Latte
ENT: Hoshi and Mayweather(he was a Gary Sue)

>>84384985
>Ds9
no its def Jake, dax can be really bad but Jake is consistently terrible

>>84377272
Seasons 3-6 are the best. 7 isn't as bad as 1 or 2 but it's definitely not as good as the prime years. Good finale though.

>>84384985
>all this Jadzia hate
>when Ezri is objectively the worst character on the show

Fucking waifufags

>>84383621
I think there was a Voyager episode about the Native Americans being blessed with superiority by some aliens?

>>84385140
Yep

>>84384985

TOS: No one
TNG: Every main cast member except for Data and Picard.
DS9: Kai Winn
VOY: Everyone. I like the Doctor the most but even he gets on my nerves.
ENT: Trip

>>84384985
>TOS
Scotty
>TNG
Alexander
>DS9
Quark's mother
>VOY
Chakotay
>ENT
didn't watch

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i read some crazy ass conspiracy theory that they hide Illuminati shit in this show

give me all dem theories regardless of how stupid but the more plausible the better

>>84385162
Kai Winn is supposed to be annoying though.

>>84385162
>>84385162
>Kai Winn
>hating the person you're supposed to hate

Pure pleb

>>84384985
TOS: anyone the crew encounter, except for the klingons
TNG: early deanna troi and all of Wesley save for the "Tom Paris gets kids killed" episode.
DS9: honestly, probably Kieko, Jake doesn't bother me much he's just a lazy kid.
VOY: almost everyone. They're all so bland and monotonous and all look like they hate the show, except for The Doctor.
ENT: I haven't watched it yet.

JJ movies: uhlhura in all the movies, Kirk and spock only in the first, and the beasty boys in the first

>>84385126
The problem with Ezri is that they introduced her so late. So you had to have lots of focus on her in a short time. Otherwise she's fine.

>>84385250
>DUDE I'M SO CONFUSED DID YOU KNOW I HAD PAST LIVES, YEAH, WE WENT OVER THAT FOR THE PAST 5 SEASONS BUT LET ME MENTION IT ALL THE TIME
>DUDE I HAVE A LISP LMAO

>>84385245
>tos
The romulan episodes are all great

>>84383593

Jake is not a Black Wesley. Jake, for the most part, stays out of the way and acts like a regular teenage boy. Wesley is annoying because he's a super special super genius that get's to be part of the bridge crew of the flagship of the federation due to nepotism. The only time Jake is portrayed like that is with the space succubus and that was one of the worst episodes ever. Every other time he's treated like a regular human being. I don't know how you can outright hate Jake when he's barely in the show and actually has some great episodes associated with his character (The Visitor).

The only good Wesley episode was when he finally got his comeupance and then he disappears from the show instead of developing into a likable human being.

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>>84385126
Ezri was just scatterbrained and had a very hard time trying to figure out her own identity after the symbiote got passed to her

jadzia was just Curzon with tits, everything about her personality is just a reflection of Curzons klingon fetish

>>84385211
>>84385215

The question was which characters I was annoyed with. I like Kai Winn as a character and the fact that I was annoyed with her shows that she's a good character. I never said that she was poorly written.

>>84385319
>there will never be old star trek shows again
>ever
>we'll be discussing this shit until we get bored or die

It's not fair brahs

>>84385303
Why are people so against a teenager being a genius?

>>84385303
not him but Jake can't act and never got better he just drags down every scene he's in

>>84385337
Blame VOY for shitting the bed, ENT deserved 7 seasons, VOY did not

>>84385338
When was a genius teenager ever likable?

>>84385342
He did alright in Far beyond the Stars

>>84385406
for you

>>84385387
SeaQuest
multiple anime

>>84385342

But again, he's barely in the show. The fact that he can't act isn't a big deal to me when he's almost never given big emotional scenes to do, except for, off the top of my head, The Visitor, in which he does a fine job and the episode where he leaves Bashir to die, which granted, was pretty bad.

I like what Jake meant to Sisko and their relationship as a whole. And I like Jake's relationship with Nog. Even if Jake himself isn't the strongest character, the show wouldn't be the same without him. You can't say the same for Wesley as, with pretty much every character in TNG, he never had any real meaningful relationships with anyone else on the ship.

>>84385338

It didn't feel deserved. Wesley was someone who wanted to be a part of Starfleet and got to jump into the bridge seat without any real effort. A lot of the episodes involving Wesley put special attention to how gifted and brilliant he was which got real annoying real fast because there is nothing endearing about someone who doesn't work hard and doesn't deserve it. Compare him to Nog who had to claw his way into the academy and defy everyone's expectations so that he could earn a spot on the Defiant. You cheer for Nog because he's the underdog, you don't cheer for Wesley because he was born flawless.

>>84385420

And me.

>>84385490
>the episode where he leaves Bashir to die, which granted, was pretty bad.
Fuck you, I liked that episode.

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>>84380206

dem hot bajoran futas.

>>84385555

I meant Jake's performance in that episode. Him trying to cry was terrible. But I agree, it was a good episode overall and Jake's performance didn't significantly ruin it.

>>84385337
Two new Star Trek show starts in September. At least one of them should be good

>>84382642
>Vic Fontaine

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>>84385490
Tbh I respect Nog for getting where he is.
He came from a family with no mum and a moron dad and a criminal uncle, got into starfleet just barely, fawns over chad squad at the Academy, gets them arrested for Treason, gets shipped out to do work experience on DS9, then the war breaks out and he can't go back to the academy, he pulls his weight like an officer twice his age and earns his place on the Defiant and into an early commission, all the while Chad squad, the supposed best of the best, get ventilated by their own hubris.

Wesley should have been on the valiant.
It's where entitled shits like him went to die

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"These Pretzels... ARE MAKING ME THIRSTY"

>>84385624
Two?

>>84385759
STD and Orville

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>>84385824
> either literal shit or Seth McFarlane apeing Red dwarf and Galaxy quest
I'll have neither

>>84385824
>Orville
>Norm Macdonald as the voice of Yaphit, a gelatinous creature

it'll get cancelled after one season

>>84385615
>Futa kira

sweet jesus I didn't know I needed this

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>tfw you will never get transported to angel one

>>84385824
I don't get why people are hyped for Orville.
The trailer looks like absolute shit without a single good joke. And MacFarlane insists on starring in his own show even though he has the charisma of a young Wil Wheaton.

>>84385824
reminder that Frakes is going to direct one of the Orville episodes

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>>84386097
> staring Seth McFarlane
No thanks, two take Frakes.

>>84385928
> norm Macdonald is still alive
> and he's in this shit

>>84386055
It looks genuinely more trek than the new trek, and it was made by people who not only know trek(I honestly doubt that the people behind STD saw more than the new movies) but love it too.
Sure it might flop after a few episodes, but one can hope

>>84386269
You aren't going to sell your shit here, Seth

>>84382299
Agreed. Borg were best when they didn't care about the puny human intruders on their ship, they shouldn't even acknowledge aliens unless they see something they want. Honestly, they should have been more AI than robot, things like being 100% goal focused, maybe do an episode where the Enterprise finds a crazy space anomaly that they're trying to contain which threatens some backwater world but failing, and a dozen cubes warp in and start sacrificing themselves en masse to stop it, completely ignoring the humans, even if Worf opens fire on them. At the end, they Borg fixes everything and leave without ever hailing them, they have no idea why. Starfleet Intelligence might suspect later that the anomaly threatened the Borg too somehow, but it's impossible to tell. Like Apes trying to comprehend us.

>>84386269
It looks like a bad Galaxy Quest rip-off.
Just because it isn't full of lens flare effects doesn't make it good.

Does anyone remember in that episode where Troi gets NON-CORPOREALED by an alien and the first thing Worf says at the staff meeting is "abort it"

>>84385662
Why do people have such a problem with this? Vic, the character, was created by Felix, he obviously just used a real human model like Zimmerman did with the EMH program.

>>84386338
The whole point of the borg is to be some hyper advanced enemy that you cannot shoot; cannot reason with and cannot defeat.
Resistance is futile (except captain Janeway)

>>84382086
The one where a fart ghost had sex with Beverly Crusher and her mother and her grandmother.

The one where Riker gets stabbed by thorns and we have to watch a clipshow

Can I delete Nemesis?

>>84383082
Agreed, Data has been around for 32 years by the time of Voyager, you'd think they could have figured it out by then

>>84386476
Can't take data apart
He's a person an shiet according to starfleet JAG

>that time where Odo almost caused the deaths of billions of people because he had an existential crisis

What the fuck, and I mean what the FUCK was his problem?

>>84386505
Why was a Soong such a dick and never shared his research?

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>it's a 'watch star trek characters watch star trek while you watch star trek' episode

>>84383635
Watch all the TNG show, then DS9 seasons 1-3, then Star Trek: Generations, then finish DS9. Technically First Contact and Insurrection happen during DS9 but they don't affect each other except for one tiny line in DS9 which you probably won't even realise is a reference even if you do it in chronological order.

>>84386618
>Watch Generations
WHY

>>84386618
> the recent borg attack has star fleet stretched thin
There was like 9 ships at 001wtf

>>84386641
So you understand what the fuck Sisko and Worf are talking about in S04E01

>>84386641
The death of Enterprise D and kirk

>>84386505
thankfully Picard captured Lore and had no qualms in dismantling him and sending him over to Starfleet command

>>84386674
>>84386680
reading a short summary is enough for that

>>84386519
He's just insecure and not really bright.

>>84377347
I thought he was a sjw

>>84386736
Indeed. TNG movie were bad, uninspired.
"Hey, let's make the main characters act totally out of character and produce shitty action flicks".

Could a character like Q even fit into nu-trek?

>>84379354
Fuck the prophets. Everytime an episode focused only on them and the bajorans it was dull as shit. The cardassians were right all along. The bajorans are terrible.

The Pah Wraiths were such a shit idea

>>84387029
But it was okay when TOS movies did it

>>84386519
Odo sucks.
Being a channeling is essentially being god, and he doesn't get into because of kira. Its one thing to turn down the founders since they're kinda evil and genocidal, but then that other channeling shows up and wants to travel the universe with him and he turns him down because of human love? Give me a break. Youre never going to fuck Kira Odo, get the fuck over it.

>>84387204
>Youre never going to fuck Kira Odo

But he did

>>84387159
I wish it was all Q's big joke in the end. The wormhole, Prophets, Pah Wraiths. Q's little game, a test for Sisko and Dukat.
"Oh, Brother Benny. soooo easy to provoke, but you did well, my child!"

>>84387204
>channelling

>>84387196
They were much more competent for the most part and had a decade between the show so the change isn't quite as jarring.

>>84387204
>Being a channeling is essentially being god

I dunno about channelings, but changelings\Founders\shapeshifters were very much mortal and pretty easy to kill. Also they didn't have omnipotent powers of Q and other godlike beings. They just created a huge and effective army, conquered a shitload of worlds and had massive resources.

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>>84384985
TOS: They were all kinda bland it doesnt matter
TNG: Wesley
DS9: Ezri
VOY: Neelix
ENT: They were all kind of bland it doesnt matter

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>when people start implying that the founders aren't gods

>ship with 400 vulcans gets destroyed
>Spock clearly perplexed by the loss
>McCoy jokes about it and makes fun of Spock

And these people were "friends"

>>84386658
The Enterprise arrived after the other 900 ships had already blown up.

>>84377460
That spisode really bugged me because it implied that the ship was at warp/FTL speeds without a warp field. That's not possible.

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*blocks your path*

>>84387644
Tachyons, cadet.

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>>84378847

>>84387879
wonder if it had anything to do with the success of the show

>>84387879
Beardless Riker was better. He looked young, was energetic, cocky, sure of himself. And then he aged 15 years and became Picard's shadow.

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>>84387879
Fuck what was that song Troi asked him to play that he had a hard time playing?

>>84379393
Stop telling people to skip episodes

>>84388139
Not skipping is a meme

>ban spanking
>end up with kids like jake and wesley in the 24th century

Those damn kids need some fucking discipline.

>>84388063
Nightbird

>>84388199
Yeah best-selling author and first Ferrengi in Starfleet. What failures...

>>84387268
>>84387410
Exposed as a phone poster I am ashamed

>>84388218
>wesley was a ferengi

what

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>>84388215
Did you look that up or did you just know that? It matters.

>>84388335
>implying Crusher didn't spank Wesley hard every night
I can find the fanfic to prove it

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>>84388335
Oh my god it makes so much sense. Bev was ashamed she had a one night stand with the Nagus she got cosmetic surgery on her son to make him appear human. All Starfleet doctors are sluts.

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>>84388344
kek, looked it up. I couldn't quite remember it myself, so I just checked memory-alpha bc ofc they have an article about it.

>>84386567
Why did that poor bastard have to sit in a fucking rolling matchbox that only has the ability of blinking lights. Was it some sort of elaborate prank?

Out of all major kid\teen characters Jake was the weakest actor. Even Naomi was much better. That ginger girl with imaginary friend was a lot better, she even got another role in DS9 later. I don't think we should count smaller Borg kids or Molly.
And Nog wasn't even a teen, he was like 25 when the first season of DS9 started.

>>84388394
Having something like that happen to me is actually one of my worst nightmares.

>>84388344
Based odo.

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>>84388411
Imagine reaching adulthood and looking like a baby with stubble

>>84388480
who could make good money with legal /ss/

>>84376879
Looks like Wesley forgot to turn off his session again.

>>84388199
it's either that or having people become like Picard's brother

>>84377612
"AH WAS NOTHING BUT A GENTLEMAN AND A SCHOLAR, AH SWEAR"!

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>>84388480
Still better than turning into something like this.

Or Worf's son.

>>84382086
VOY - Threshold
TNG - The warp global warming one
TNG - Parallels

>all these people complaining about Jake
Fun fact - Morn was in more episodes than Jake.

I am not shitting you, go look it up. ~20 episode difference, iirc. Morn at 90+ and Jake at 70ish.

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>>84387663

Mom. Dad. Please meet my wife's son.

>>84388139
Shades of grey isn't a real episode, it's a clip show filler due to a writer's strike.

Are Cardassians cold-blooded?
They like it hot and look like scalies.

>>84388791
as shit as that episode was, Dukat's reaction to his kid was hilarious. and that Bajoran dude just had to roll it.

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>>84388666
was it drugs? she was such a qt

>>84388763
What difference does it make? We're talking about semi-major character and actor, both weren't very good.
Morn was a running joke and nothing else.

btw, have you noticed that Morn actually speaks in one episode in later seasons, there was some party or whatever and you can see him in the background - he's talking to someone, his "lips" are moving and all. But we can't hear him of course.

>>84388909
Some sort of mental illness, possibly with drugs thrown into the mix iirc

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>>84388909
>“Star Trek: Voyager” actress Jennifer Lien was arrested and has been in custody for two weeks after allegedly exposing herself in front of several children, Roane County police confirm.

>A neighbor of Lien’s made a complaint to police after Lien began a tirade due to a crying child, and during her tirade, exposed her breasts and buttocks. The neighbor stated that she had three children in the yard while this was happening.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/jennifer-lien-arrested-star-trek-voyager-1201594328/

>>84388386
I don't know who drew this jpg of your's anon but if he ever touch a pen with the idea that he might possibly draw some more of star trek, I swear I'll find him and punch him in the face until he has ennough bruise on his forehead to cosplay as a klingon without any make-up.

>>84382664
Well, we did see them again in the recent trilogy.

>>84384985
>TOS
Nobody really
>TNG
Troi. Wil at least tries with Wesley.
>DS9
Jadzia, hands down. No, I'm not a Ezrifag either
>VOY
Harry Kim and Robert Beltran's inability to act
>ENT
Nobody really, everyone except Archer, Shran and Trip is forgettable

>>84385062
Why are you on reddit

>>84388344
What's that picture from? Mad magazine?

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>>84389148
JJ Trek? Ugh, I'm not really in a target audience of these.

>>84389370
Go be a pedo somewhere else Neelix.

>>84388909
makeup

>>84388932
The joke is that Morn never shuts up, but anytime he's on screen he's silent.

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>>84389237
Yes. It isnt funny. Please dont make me post the rest of it.

>>84389444
No shit man. I pointed out that moment because it probably was an oversight (he forgot or didn't know he was in the frame). Or maybe not, since we still can't hear a word.

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>>84388791
Oh my god look at its widdle spoon. I want to adopt one of Dukats many bastard half Bajoran love children. They are so cute.

>>84383123
Holy shit i never knew 7 of 9 had it that hard.

>>84384464
>>84384808
Chad and Stacie should have lived. They got off too easy.

>>84389537
The basically replaced Kes with Seven's tits and ass to bump the ratings. Mulgrew hated her too.

She also hated Kim, there's a video from some con where he and Seven talk about stuff and he literally starts crying.

>>84384985
TOS: Kirk
TNG: Wesley
DS9: Kai Winn, but i like her.
VOY: Kim
ENT: Prick, Trip whatever

>>84384985
TOS: the blonde yeoman event though her life was hell on set
TNG:Jordi or Deanna
DS9: Jadzia
Voy: Kes or Belanna
Ent:Captain Archer but he grows on you.

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>>84388480
Shave that stubble and apply make-up.

There, you're fuck NOG.

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>>84389619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je-w7Fat3sM

Fuck, i feel bad for Kim.
I feel bad for all of them.
The VOY cast didn't deserve this.

>>84389950
>surname is wang

His life was fucked from birth

>>84389950
>>84390035
>Garrett Wang goes to the producers and asks when Star Trek will finally have a Chinese main character
>"But isn't your character Chinese?"
>"No, Kim is Korean."
>"There's a difference?"
What did Rick Berman mean by this?

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>>84384081
>it hurts that Michelle Forbes will never be that young ever again
She just turned into a MILF though

>15 years later

>>84390185
Everyday i dislike RIck Berman a bit more.

>>84386352
>It looks like a bad Galaxy Quest rip-off.
>apeing Red dwarf and Galaxy quest
Do you Tourists even realise Galaxy Quest is copying Star Trek and Orville is copying Star Trek?

You sound like dads who call all cartoons The Simpsons.

>>84388386
>GenndyTrek

>>84390476
The set and uniform design is more reminiscent of Galaxy Quest than Star Trek.

>>84389950

How could it not happen though. It was a project that wasn't needed or wanted in the first place and only served to launch a new network. Series fatigue and dwindling ratings combine with a lot of on set tension caused it to suffer.

Voyager could have worked if it was made years later with enough time and care but yeah, the cast didn't deserve it. But thats the difference between a production made out of love and a production made to fill a time slot.

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>>84388480
Those diseases that create permanent kids are weird, this is Jimmy Clitheroe, he stopped growing at 11 and spent his whole life pretend to be a kid on the radio and TV. He's about 45 here.

>>84377347
I've heard he's a hound, fucks his fans any chance he gets.

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>>84390185
Koreans have better plastic surgery and music.

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>>84390511
No it isn't, and fuck you for making me look it up. The Orville is clearly copying the TNG TV series style, and Galaxy Quest looks like the late TNG movies and Discovery.

>>84386352
but Galaxy Quest was already bad so what's the problem

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>>84390511
>>84390677
Comparison.

>>84390704

>that lazy set design.

Oh well, probably a good idea not to spend too much on a show that wont last half a season.

>>84390704
those look like the uniforms from the new movies

>>84390704
Looks absolutely nothing like TNG

>>84384081
>Ro Laren is so much better than Kira
Yeah but she hated Trek which is fine but for Christs sake they DESIGNED a TV show AROUND her & she turned it down?

>>84390742
>lazy set design
But it looks just like TNG enterprise and at least doesn't feel as plastic as the Defiant or Voyager

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>>84390692
By Grabthar's hammer you are a pleb.

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>>84390763
>I've never watched TNG
Why didn't you say so? Here you go bro

>>84390811
They were made in the 90's

New thread here

>>84391024

>>84390942
>cold and minimal
>warm and busy

yeah exactly the same