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List best examples of show, don't tell in DW!

List best examples of tell, don't show in DW!

>>84372736
Sorry, fucked up the previous thread.
>>84364704

>>84372792
show don't tell
Smith and Jones
Empty Child
Bad Wolf

tell dont show
Heaven Sent
World enough and time

>>84372792
Best example of show, don't tell:
Clara's tits in that raven parallel london episode.
Best example of tell, don't show:
Clara talking about her lesbian adventures with Jane Austin

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>adult mature torchwood
"There's this gas that makes you want to DO IT UGH! It makes you RANDY and up for a SHAG!"

>Sit down to watch the new Cyberman episode
>Really looking forward to it
>Intro sequence plays
>Dooweeoooo etc
>Title card pops up
>DOCTOR POO AND THE MONDASSIAN DIAPERMEN
What the fuck? I thought you guys were just shitposting.

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Somehow my family knew nothing of this story.

It seemed to me as if these terrible events had been completely erased from memory.

Who, if not we, could be a credible witness to the fact that the victims were not, an anonymous mass?

Who, if not we, could name them, and thus help bring down the walls of silence and taboo?

By reversing the anonomization, we give our murdered relatives their identity, and some dignity back.

Just a reminder that something is wrong with the Doctor (ala Empress of Mars)

>>84373477
Wait, is Simm a kike?

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https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/may/28/john-simm-doctor-who-fans

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Reminder that the next Doctor MUST be female.

Why did they cast Capaldi for the 12 doctor? Don't get me wrong, I love him and he was a dream cast, but surely they'd know that having the doctor be old again would make the massive teenage girl audience drop the show.

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>>84374183
>Make a wish foundation

>>84374183
Moffat was gonna cast a black dude until he saw Capaldi's performance

>>84374246
Source?

FIRST FOR OFFICIAL THE DOCTOR POWER RANKINGS:

>Shit tier
The Valeyard

>Splendid chaps, all of you Tier
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, War, 9, 10, 11, 12

>>84374183
OOGLEH

>>84374263
I still don't understand the valyard. Is he an incarnation of the doctor?

>>84372905


Dalton still can come back as James Rassilon pre-The End of Time.

>>84374354
He could be. But probably won't.

>>84374052
The fans, never ending, never stopping, can't you hear them, Gomez? Can't you hear them?

>>84374052
Scrooge McCunt.
All he has to do is say thank you, his kids would be proud of him, instead he has to be a niggardly.
Simm worst master confirmed.

>>84374108
Female I can take. But if she is black or gay I swear to God...

>>84374580
Gay IRL or gay in the show? Because they pretty much made the Doctor omnisexual. Because that's true progress

>>84374640
>they pretty much made the Doctor omnisexual
You are watching the show wrong.

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this looks better imo

>>84374703
>BILL: So, the Time Lords, bit flexible on the whole man-woman thing, then, yeah?
>DOCTOR: We're the most civilised civilisation in the universe. We're billions of years beyond your petty human obsession with gender and its associated stereotypes.

>>84374580
Same. I'm alright with a female Doctor as long as her gender isn't brought up often and if it is brought up I want it to tie into the time era their in

>>84374796
I hate how they reference stuff like that but they don't reference other obvious stuff.
For example, in Empress of Mars that guy had a problem with the notion of being in the police, but didn't even mention the fact she was black. Apparently being a woman was a huge stepping stone to Victorian police, but there were thousands of black policemen.

>>84374773
And he's then immediately called out on that by her bringing up the fact that they still use masculine and feminine titles. That quote doesn't even have anything to do with sexual preference anyway.

>>84374640
I couldn't care less if the actor/actress was gay, but the character shouldn't be overtly homosexual. The Doctor is meant to be beyond that shit. Did Eccleston, Tenant and Smith have little gay moments? Yes, but they were quick, humorous, tasteful even. They weren't something to identify him by. The moment they make the Doctor's sexuality something by which to identify him is the moment the show goes terminal.

>>84374854
My point is they'll make up any shit as long as it sounds progressive.
I don't feel like traipsing through to find you other such quotes are you're set in the mindset "They never made the Doctor gay and it wouldn't even matter if they did you nazi bigot", so this conversation is exceptionally pointless.

Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/Umsvm1D3skI

>>84374354
He's a dark manifestation of all the evil of the doctor somewhere between his penultimate and final incarnations.

FUCK YOU CLOISTER

>>84374954
It would matter greatly if they made the Doctor gay. I think we're actually on the same side here.So yeah, kinda pointless

>>84375227
We're not, I'm on the retarded extreme far right "hates everything not a straight white male christian" side and you're on the rational "let's not mess with it too much" side.

>>84375280
In terms of our preference for the Doctor, you and I are in the exact same boat my friend. Casting the Doctor for the sake of diversity would ruin the show and at this point, it wouldn't be for any other reason no matter what they claim.

>>84375544
The difference is you would probably support a talented black actor taking the role, where as I wouldn't, for the same reason I wouldn't want James Bond to be played by anyone but a dsrk haired white man.
having said that id fuck the shit out of that qt gook watson they did in the yank version of sherlock holmes

>>84375701
>The difference is you would probably support a talented black actor taking the role
The role of the companion, sure. I'd drop it if he were the Doctor. The companion is always a strong character, and 99% of the time is a woman anyway. All these people demanding a female Doctor are devaluing the importance of all of the companions.

>>84375780
This is the dumbest fucking thing I've never read.

>>84375819
It's like representation doesn't count unless it's the main character.

A female doctor would be fine by me if casted correctly. Hard to imagine all the character's eccentricities feeling natural though and can't for the life of me come up with a suitable actress.

Missy was very well done, that kinda Cruella de Vil mold.

I don't get it aaaaaa, I'd Missy not the regen. of the Master?????

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>>84375780
I just think the entire way they've handled it is terrible, they had two viable options and they chose neither:
1.This reality is exactly like ours, with all it's historical views on race and sex.
2. This reality is nothing like ours, with non of our historical views on race or sex.

Example, in Thin Ice you have Bill, a black woman, walking around regency era London, she asks the Doctor if slavery is a thing, he says it is, very much so. Okay, so we're in a 99% white society where all minorities are treat like shit, right? Wrong, we're in a 50% white society where there is no animosity between races. So then why the fuck does slavery exist in this timeline? They put real world discrimination in, i.e: slavery, and yet it's 50% white and there is no apparent tension between the whites and the non whites, furthermore the soldiers are black, so the people enforcing this non existent slavery are themselves black?

Furthermore, the Doctor's reaction to it, here we see a white aristocratic man telling a poor black woman to "respect her betters", which, whatever way you look at this, that was the fact then. In every single catagory he would be deemed a social better than her in that era. But what does the Doctor do? He gets so mad he goes on a sperg rage and hits him.


So I'm expected to believe the Doctor would:
1. Put himself at an extreme strategic disadvantage. (he was tied up due to this.)
2. Completely lose control of the situation in that manner.
3. React so strongly to what would have been expected in that era in that world.

I mean, I could just about understand it if he had nothing to lose by doing this, but he was in a situation where he was calmly discussing something with a man he wanted information from, and because of a single comment he flew into a fit of rage, what the fuck? Is the Doctor known to have bad impulse control?

Honestly, they've killed the show for me. I keep watching it, but it's like watching someone shoveling shit on a grave.

>>84376118
**not "I'd", I meant isn't -_-

>>84376142
really the only excuse i can come up with for that is that the 12th was meant to be a violent evil bastard
but they never did that in any other episode so that's bollocks, i'm sorry.

why can't we have a Doctor who just straight up murders fools

It's an idea I wouldn't be able to contribute to myself because, of my lack of a microphone at the moment but, has /who/ ever discussed recording audio readings of Doctor Who books (the Targets, the Telos, the Virgins, etc.) that do not have audio adaptations of them?

>>84376229
Do you think they'll finally show whether or not he pushed the half-faced man next week?

This is basically a rip off of star trek everything Dr who did star trek did it originally even the enemies are Kmart rip offs of star trek enemies prove me wrong

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ANTI-PLASTIC

>>84377350
Anti Plastic?

>>84377350
Why does series one have a slight glow to the video?

>>84377392
ANNNTI-PLASTIC!

>>84377453
Because it's magic

>>84377461
You're doing it wrong, delete this

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>>84377392
AAANTI-PLASTIC

Do any anons remember us watching the leaked test screening episodes of series 8 and thinking we were entering the new golden age of /who/?

>>84377960
cheers, marcelo camargo

What if in the finale, 12 finds a way to indefinitely delay his regeneration and uses this new power to go on adventures with Clara and Me through space and time for all eternity?

>>84376995
My biggest problem with the Ten regeneration is the lengthy goodbye tour. I loved Ten telling Rose she's "going to have a great year" it's a beautiful book end of sorts to an era and yes, its moved me to tears a couple of times when I've watched that scene by itself without all the nonsense that comes before it.

But yeah, the nonsense. Ten pushing Sarah Jane Smith's kid out of the way of a car, Donna getting that lottery ticket, Martha & Mickey randomly being a couple, and so on? Didn't need it.

>>84374201
Aww bless.

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>World Enough and Time retcons Spare Pa-

>>84378094
Why would 12 want to punish himself like that?

>>84378226
Clara was a mistake.

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>>84378226
It's difficult to reconcile World Enough and Time with The Tenth Planet, let along Spare Parts.

>>84378198
>Martha & Mickey randomly being a couple.
It's because they're black isn't it?

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>Nine and Twelve will never be on screen together

How does Tenth Planet, Spare Parts and World Enough and Time fit together? What is the order?

>>84378349
Seems fairly obvious to me that Spare Parts then leads on to The Tenth Planet and that World Enough and Time is a completely separate event from Spare Parts, given that they're on a spaceship away from Mondas and it took them that long to develop the technology.

>>84378409
Tenth Planet goes last.

>>84378409
Ship from World Enough and Time leaves, events happen whenever -> Spare Parts -> The Tenth Planet

>>84378405
I never expected 10 and 11 so you never know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E1PIqcOo9g

>>84378409
I'm waiting for The Doctor Falls because, I'm thinking the it was a simulation all along! LOL theory is seeming more and more likely to be true An anon pointed out on, sunday I think, that in one of the scenes where they show the spaceship that you can briefly see what at least looks to be the wheat fields that were in Smile in one of the windows

>>84378527
>one last final raw moffucking from the man himself
Almost bitter-sweet

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>>84378527
>The BBC got their wheat field footage from the same place, so the episode is a simulation, again

>>84374052
>I'm famous and adored by millions for my work
>God I hate them
Method actors, everyone.

>>84378527
The Nethersphere garden area in DB reused the bg from Any's Choice. They recycle their old sets all the time.

>>84378472
But in Spare Parts they hadn't mentioned anything about leaving the planet yet, wasn't that still being planned?

>>84378582
That's the problem with a big serial franchise that's constantly changing hands. You never know if you're dealing with a carefully crafted narrative, or slop.

>>84378440
Okay, but nothing about it is "fairly obvious" at all actually.

>>84377960
Oh yes. I arrived here during that time.

That was a time of unmatched potential. It seemed like this new Doctor might do anything.

>>84375006
What does that even mean?

>>84379291
It's the explanation given in Trial of a Timelord and The Last Adventure. Sometime between The Doctor's penultimate and final incarnation, all the evil within him manifested into one being. That's the Valeyard.

>>84378527
>Implying wheat fields usually look completely different from each other...

Test post. Don't respond.

>>84379322
I know but what does that mean? Is he someone the Doctor regenerates into? Did the time lords do some timey wimey bullshit and stick traits of all the bad shit the doctor's done and put it into a body they made just for shits and giggles?

>>84379361
Right, fuck off you fat little cunt. Sick of your shit. Fucking reported.

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>>84378987

>>84379391
I'm pretty sure It's the latter, whether it's stated outright or not.

i wanna lick Clara's pancake tits

HOW TO FIX HIDE
>Episode cold opens with The Doctor in the woods
>"My name is the Doctor, and I am very, very, afraid."
>DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoOOOOOOOOOoOOOoooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOO
>entire episode is The Doctor and Clala running and hiding from the monster
>brief flashbacks to landing in the woods and getting split up
>manage to meet up and find TARDIS after a fucking spoopy 40 minutes of running, hiding, and surviving
>we never find out what the creature was

Instant 8/10 episode. Hire me as showruiner

Quick top story for each Doctor from each medium, go

>Genesis of the Cybermen
I can't believe this was an actual line

>>84379702
The episode is basically moffat sucking capaldi's dick for 45 minutes

I think the "solution" to The Doctor Falls will just be sending all the Cybermen into the black whole ala Doomsday and Flesh and Stone. That'll explain how it doesn't contradict Spare Parts.

>>84379669
define "each medium"

>>84379857
Not him but he probably means

>books
>audio
>tv
>comics

>>84373554
i think she just meant he's already started regenerating, and that will be the reveal next week and probably through some deus ex bs how they'll bring bill back because let's face it no fucking way is she dead
as for why he's regenerating, I've no clue. someone said that they reckoned he took the execution for missy in extremis, but that was supposed to kill them instantly, so I don't see how that would work. that scene never really ended up having any substance to it either, the whole vault arc just went nowhere - what was up with that?

>>84379889
Yep

>>84374580
>>84374703
>"So many species, so little time." The Ninth Doctor explained to Rose Tyler that they were "just a bit more flexible when it [came] to dancing."

>>84379889
well fuck, I'm a tv only pleb so I dunno

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>>84380076

>>84379512
Do you think Moffat cast Jenna just because she is hot? Because it sure as hell wasn't for her acting.

The new doctor has never seen doctor who. The actor needs to understand the basics of the show over the years.
Your task: select one story from each doctor - it can be any length - but it must exist in a complete form (no missing episodes) and it needs to show the actors playing the doctor at their best. Story quality isn't the point, "lore" isn't the point - it's about displaying each actor at their best - their most doctorish.

>>84373831
Doesn't look/sound like one. Lots of people believe the Holocaust story.

>>84379668
sounds good to me anon

>>84380147
1: The Dalek Invasion of Earth
2: Tomb of the Cybermen
3: The Green Death
4: City of Death
5: Earthshock
6: Fuck if I can choose, I hated Colin Baker in every episode.
7: Remembrance of the Daleks
8: I don't have much choice here do I?
9: The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances
10: The Waters of Mars
11: The Beast Below
12: Mummy on the Orient Express

>>84380404
Not bad, could you elaborate on the green death? While I'm not a huge fan of Pertwee, I have a handful of episodes which really endear his performance to me - other than the notable ending, I didn't really consider this one.

>>84380467
In all honesty for Pertwee I just picked my favorite episode, since I couldn't really think of his best performance-wise. What were the ones you were thinking of?

I really wish they would put the names for Capaldi, Mackie and Lucas at the beginning of the title sequence; The segment with the cogs is really bland with nothing there.

>>84380487
To be clear, some of these episodes I'm not particularly fond of on the whole, but I remember getting a big kick out of Pertwee
>the silurians
While I think this story is massively over hyped, Pertwee really gets into it and the Doctor's friction with the military is actually explored, where as later its practically treated as a gag.
>inferno
I love the scenes in the alternative universe, the rest is pretty trashy - but again, Pertwee really makes it work in those scenes
>the sea devils
I always get the impression that Pertwee has a great time with this story. Sword fights, stealing sandwiches - good stuff.
>the time warrior
For me this is the most Doctor Who episode of the Pertwee era.

>>84378521
But neither Smith nor Tennant were opposed to reprising the role. And while Capaldi would probably agree to come back for a special or something, Eccleston never will.

>>84380607
>Capaldi would probably agree to come back for a special or something
Shame he'll probably be dead by the next anniversary.

>>84380622
calm down, hes not that old yet

>>84380590
Oh - and a specific scene I always found endearing is when Jo and the Doctor are trapped... In a basement? i.e the infamous "most dasiest daisy" speech.
I liked it.

any anon has the leak pic of cap and bradley?

>>84380404
>I hated Colin Baker in every episode.
t. pleb
Six is criminally underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2INBe_qZFo

>>84380690
Questioner here - I agree. I thought when they toned him down in his final season it helped a lot.
Vengeance on Varos is - in my controversial opinion - better than any of 5s stories.

>>84380544
I really just want a new title theme, because Capaldi's is the most horrible thing I've ever listened to.

>>84380147
I definitely wouldn't show them every Doctor. I'd show them Hartnell and one or two others and let them base their performance off of that.

>>84380690
Whether you thought Trial was good or shit, it had some good ideas.

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>>84380673
this one?

>>84380815
Wait what? Is that him? What have I missed??

>>84380815
Is that real.

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What the fuck were they thinking?

>>84380815
With this, plus the fact that other leaks have been real, Bill being converted, ect, I'm inclined to think this is real. Holy shit.

>>84380815
Honestly I wish this didn't happen. I love the first and it's not the same without William Hartnell. I just hope David Bradley does better than what he did in those reconstructions

>>84380815
I really wish I wasn't spoiled on this, the surprise would be jaw-dropping.

>>84380928
The thing is, Bradley wasn't playing the first Doctor in An Adventure in Space and Time, he was playing Hartnell as a person. There were very few scenes where he played the Doctor and they were all directed in a way where the focus was the actor himself. We haven't really seen him attempting to play the Doctor, but he's a bloody good actor and I think he could pull it off.

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>>84380690
Its bandwagon hate. The BBC smear campaign against Colin Baker was extremely effective despite his amazing performance as the Doctor, loved him the moment he choked out Peri.

>>84380961
>smear campaign
what? why?

>>84380961
6 is my favorite Doctor. He could be in the worst episode of all time, but any segments starring him would be so golden. The arrogant asshole who travels space and time is brilliant.

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>>84380928
>>84380959
This guy, who voiced 1 in the 50th, is amazing at impersonating Hartnell. I wish he could do ADR over Bradley or some other actor but I know that would look like shit and not sync up properly.

>>84380959
Yeah true, but the reconstruction of the pilot and the first farewell didn't sit right with me. I am too used to Hartnell
>>84380993
He did a fantastic Job. Uncanny

>>84380888
They wanted to see if they could make the writers pretend they write for the same show for once.

>>84380980
Michael Grade, BBC exec big wig hated him and the show in general, believe he was dating Colin's ex-wife too, there's lots written on it that I can't get into off the top of my head.

>>84380988
Yeah exactly, he was written to be like the anti-Doctor in that he was the purposely designed to be the darkest most arrogant asshole version of the Doctor imaginable, and it just fucking worked. He's the ultimate regeneration outside of the part where he got real fat

whats your favorite moffat episode

>>84381120
That one where Sherlock shoots that guy in the head

>>84381093
Now I'm imagining if 10 regenerated while travelling with Rose into 6. Lovey dovey "Oh, I'm so so so sorry" to an asshole that makes fun of her advances.

>>84381120
Empty Child. Nostalgic and also the only episode to give me a nightmare.

>>84381120
Treehouse of Horror 3

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>>84381142
"Ha! A Timelord mating with a filthy mongrel such as yourself? A lowly big lipped harlot? My word! The very thought of such a thing fills me with dread!"

>>84380888
>oh shit we wrote ourselves into a corner here lets use the power of love to make it look like we planned for this

>>84381260
"Love? LOVE? I'm the last Time Lord, and as much as I haven't agreed with them in a while, the last thing I need is some petty feelings you'll regret in a year or two. There are Daleks, out there, young lady. They killed the rest of my race, and you want me to be in a relationship with you! Love, hah!"

objective nuwho season rankings


>GREAT TIER
Series 4
Series 1
Series 10

>GOOD TIER
Series 5
Series 9

>MEH TIER
Series 3
Series 8

>BAD TIER
Series 2
Series 6

>SERIES 7 TIER
Series 7

>>84381422
wew lad god no

>>84381430
then come up with a better ranking

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>>84381422
>series 4 was great

>>84381452
>Donna best companion
>first cohesive RTD season (not including the finale)
>good stories
>Midnight, Library 2 parter, Pompeii,

the only bad parts were
>Jenny
>The Unicorn and the Wasp
>Journey's End

>>84381492
The entire series arc was god awful, and retroactively hurt the previous seasons. And it was full of garbage stories like Planet of the Ood, the Sontaran 2 parter, The Doctor's Daughter, and Unicorn and the Wasp. A couple of good episodes is standard for the show, and Donna is pretty fucking overrated and doesn't really have a role at all in the good episodes of the series.

>>84380888
>Bill keeps saying she looks like her mum
>cast someone that looks nothing like her

>>84381549
Pearl Mackie is one in a million, and not in a good way.

>>84381570
"Ooga Booga" is the first thing that comes to my mind when looking at her, and I say that as someone who actually likes Bill.

>>84381492
>first cohesive RTD season (not including the finale)
There's no such thing. Series 4 is no more cohesive than any other series. Just because there's a little reference to Rose in each episode doesn't change anything other than remind you on repeated viewings of series 4 that there's a god awful finale at the end of it.
At least the plot arc stayed out of your way for the most part in his other series.

Both Russell and Moffat are terrible at show arcs; Russell just can't plain write a decent one and hams everything up to hell and back, and Moffat is so obsessed with over-complicating everything to seem clever that he forgets to answer any questions and just leaves everything unsatisfying and convoluted.

Series arcs were a mistake - and their trend of ruining the episodic nature of the show by trying to shove in some connection to a bigger picture that is 9 times out of 10 worse than the smaller picture is awful. Even Series 10 which has had a relatively smaller series arc than past series has still felt the need to tack on a scene with the Vault or Missy here and there that ultimately adds nothing to said episode, nor makes the finale any better.

>>84381532
The stolen planets arc was decent, and seeing Davros was great. It's better than Bad Wolf or the letdown of the mattress episodes in s3. (utopia excluded)

Planet of the Ood and the Sontaran 2 parter are easily 6/10 or 7/10 good stories and nowhere near as bad as the other 2 you listed.

>Donna doesn't have a role
>Pompeii, her absence in Midnight

She has a role in every other story with the exception of the library 2 parter and partners in crime.

Fuck off, it's great.

>>84381633
I didn't wanna sound racist but I really have to agree.

>>84381549
>black
>same hair
Pretty much indistinguishable.

>>84381653
By cohesive, I mean it's a good collection of stories as opposed to the fluctuating quality of every other season. There's no Fear Her equivalent in S4 like there were in s1/s3.

The plot arc staying out of the way is also pretty nice.

>>84381654
>The stolen planets arc was decent, and seeing Davros was great.
I wholeheartedly disagree. I felt The Stolen Earth was just as bad as Journey's End.

>Planet of the Ood and the Sontaran 2 parter are easily 6/10 or 7/10 good stories
I would say that's a bit generous, but you're right that they aren't as bad as the other two. Still, I wouldn't give a series where frankly half the episodes are mediocre a place in "great tier," that's all I really meant with my initial reply. I think that series 1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 are all better than 4 to be honest.

>>84381739
Agree to disagree. I get what you're saying

>I think that series 1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 are all better than 4 to be honest.

6? Really?

>>84381776
6 is fair enough, the first half was alright. I'm more concerned about 2.

whats your favorite:
>uplifting episode
>depressing episode
>scary episode
>exciting episode
>funny episode

>>84381876
death in heaven was bad

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>>84381120
Heaven sent.

>>84381422
>Great Tier
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>Good Tier
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>Meh Tier
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>Bad Tier
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>POLARIZING Tier
6

>>84381878
>uplifting episode
Husbands of River Song
>depressing episode
Heaven Sent
>scary episode
Midnight
>exciting episode
The Doctor's Wife
>funny episode
Robot of Sherwood

>>84381917
I should rewatch that some time. Haven't seen it since it first aired.

>>84381878
>uplifting episode
The Doctor Dances

>depressing episode
Asylum of the Daleks, because it could've been fucking amazing

>scary episode
I wouldn't consider any episode truly scary. Hide had potential.

>exciting episode
Dalek is great

>funny episode
The Lodger and Closing Time are kino

>>84381890
I liked it. Bittersweet reminder of soldiers sacrificing themselves to save the Earth, I thought it was an appropriate episode for Remembrance Weekend.

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Hi lads!

>>84382026
http://holeyandmoley.com/2015/10/04/

>>84381878
>uplifting episode
A Christmas Carol.
>depressing episode
Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, even though in the end it's more just emotional than depressing since Moffat loves a happy end.
>scary episode
None are really scary, but in terms of the one that I think did the best job, Blink.
>exciting episode
Flatline.
>funny episode
Closing Time. God I would've loved to have Craig as a companion.

>>84381120
Hard to choose
Empty Child or Blink or Heaven Sent
After years these stories proved to be the best

What should the 13th Doctor be like? How would you differentiate that Doctor from the others?

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>chris chibnall will save doctor who

>>84382134
more like a classic doctor and nothing like 10 or 11

>>84382134
a girl

>>84382177
You should know the BBC won't allow that after the declining ratings in Capaldi's reign. They're going to go back to someone like 10/11.

>>84382179
I agree, but add more detail. What type of girl?

>>84382177
Be more specific?

>>84382213
>What type of girl?
a hot one

>>84382218
Hayley Atwell kind of hot, or Eva Green kind of hot?

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I fucking love Clara's hair in Listen

>>84382213
>>84382191

>series 11 opener
>SPIMBLY WIMBLY IM ALL NEW AND TIMBLY
>LOOKIT MY HAIR OHHH YES LOOK AT YOU YOU HAIR YOU LOVELY HAIR MMMMM YES WAIT NO YES NO HOLD ON NO I WANNA BE A GINGER
>GINGERS ARE COOL
>SO MY FEMALE COMPANION WHERE SHALL WE GO NEXT AH YES I KNOW HOW ABOUT SOMEPLACE UUUMAN I LOVE UUUMANS THEYRE SO UUUMAN I LOVE EM AND SCIENCE WEEEEEEWWW
>SPOOBLY WOOBLY MY SCREWDRIVER IS A MAGIC WANDOOBLY
>LE FUNKY HAT IS LE BACK IN STYLE

>>84382245
>Hayley Atwell kind of hot, or Eva Green kind of hot?
well, neither are up my alley.
but if I had to choice, the former.

>>84375780
I agree but the snowflake SJW crow do not care about a good show. They just want to take others work and make it black,gay and/or female

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>>84382270
>implying they haven't been doing this for ages already
lol
moffat went through a phase a couple years back where he really tried hard to appeal to the fangirls crowd.

>>84382274
Who is up your alley, that you would accept as the Doctor?

>>84382270
I wouldn't mind a false Doctor like this.

Great Tier

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>>84382301
series 3 was fucking dog shit
it has barely any good episodes, a shit companion, and a shit story arc.

>>84382298
>Who is up your alley, that you would accept as the Doctor?
dunno, I would've said by now if I knew

>>84382301
>dividing seasons

ew

>>84382333
might as well just rank by episode at this point

>>84382350
Doctor Who is so fucking inconsistent in quality, episode by episode, that ranking the series is fucking pointless. Ranking by episode, or serial would be a much better idea - problem is it takes too much time.

>>84382319
It's best series with best iconic episodes with amazing directing crew and with probably best Tennant performance ever

>>84382332
Well, what actresses do you find attractive?

>>84382301
>9 and 10 bad

Why?

>6b over 9 and 10

Yeah, 6b is underrated.

>>84382376
>best iconic episodes
lol, like what?
episodes 8-10 are literally the only good ones, and everything else is shit. the only thing iconic about them is how bad they are, since they are some of the most stand out terrible episodes in the show's history with trash like the human dalek, mark gatiss as a scorpion, "burn with me," and the super old baby tennant that and flying power of belief tennant finale.
it's fucking shit, pure unfiltered trash.
>amazing directing crew
give some examples please, because nothing to me about s3's direction seemed any more noteworthy than the other tennant seasons - but the writing quality was sure as shit a lot lower.
>probably best Tennant performance ever
when? nothing's noteworthy about his performance in s3; he does a better job in s4 and the specials. one of the best episodes of s3 literally just has tennant on a dvd recording for a couple minutes.

>>84382388
>Why

because I heavily dislike lack of any continuity, I dont like performance of Jenna and Pearl, and I'm not really emotionally attached to them to care
I strongly dislike talky tension-free episodes with no stakes, I think the quality of screenplays is low and a lot of things doesnt make sense, I find Doctor's character inconsistent, I dont like overly-safe s10 episodes
Monks three parter is abomination

>>84382464
>lack of any continuity

What do you mean?

>>84382464
>because I heavily dislike lack of any continuity
>unironically wanting more of a season arc
Jesus fucking christ, that's been the best thing about series 9 and 10.
The problem is with the episodes themselves; series 9 made a huge mistake by having almost every episode be a two parter when they only do 12 episodes a year, since there are barely any good stories in there. S10's had a few good episodes, but the monks three-parter was a fucking mistake, that's for sure.

>>84382458
literally the only bad episodes are dalek two parter and last of the time lords if you really hate Doctor jesus

Charles palmer and graeme harper managed to give scripts like Smith and Jones, 42 and utopia amazing pace and sense of action

Tennant is too good in human nature

''The clock on the wall shows half past midnight, marking the end of days for the 12th Doctor. Stuck on a vast spaceship alongside a black hole, he’s trapped on the roof of a hospital from hell, while the two incarnations of his best “frenemy”, Missy and the Master, dance in delight at his plight. “We’ve been debating the best way to kill you,” says the latter. What a dark joy it is to see John Simm, Michelle Gomez and Peter Capaldi sparking off one another as series ten shudders to a close.

The Doctor may have a cunning plan, but what can be done for poor Bill (the departing Pearl Mackie), who is struggling to accept her complete cyber-conversion? “I don’t want to live if I can’t be me any more,” she tells her friend. For once, he has no answer.

Steven Moffat’s hour-long finale The Doctor Falls has epic ambition, moments of revelation and even pockets of romance as the Doctor struggles to hold the Cybermen – and his regeneration – at bay.''

And watch out for a very original cliffhanger (more of an icebreaker) teeing up the Christmas special.

http://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/frs5jt/doctor-who--s10-e12-the-doctor-falls/

>>84382526
>a very original cliffhanger
I'm placing my bets that it'll just be Capaldi starting to regenerate.

>>84382526
if bill stays dead I will kill moffat
she doesn't fucking deserve this, and he's been willing to revive literally everyone under the fucking sun from rory to strax.

Kris Marshall

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>>84382574
Bill has absolutely zero chance of dying, she will be saved by Heather at the last minute after being exposed to Twelve's regen energy.
>magical zoomy puddlefu who can conveniently show up anywhere in space and time
And we'll likely see the Simm → Missy next episode.

>>84382574
The problem is that Moffat's screwed.

If he revives Bill, people will cry "You no-consequence hack!"

If he kills Bill, other people will cry "Bill didn't deserve that!" Also, some people will say "Did you really just kill off the black lesbian?"

>>84382526
>an icebreaker

If Bradley breaks out of the ice with "I want to break free!" playing in the background, I will laugh.

Missy and the Master will both fatally wound each other, resulting in Simm regenerating into Gomez, and Gomez regenerating into someone new (not seen).

The Doctor has been regenerating since Oxygen when he was blinded, holding it in as seen in The Lie of the Land, and hence Missy asking if he was "alright" in Empress of Mars.

We see a slight continuation of the regeneration scene from last week - showing a quick glimpse of the next Doctor: Kris Marshall.

The episode ends with David Bradley showing up as the First Doctor, leading into the Christmas Special.

>>84382692
Moffat should just stop listening to SJWs.

Or not have companion converted into cyberman if he has no guts to go through with it.

Really, companions should start leaving off their own accord. It kinda makes Doctor look bad, like he keeps picking up replacement people to die. Part of Doctor's character is to be sort of extreme sport instructor, and instructor with almost 100% death/MIA rate does not look good.

>>84382692
>If he revives Bill, people will cry "You no-consequence hack!"
who cares? people have had dozens of other reasons to cry at moffat, and clearly he doesn't care about all of them.

>>84382692
Bill should stay Cyberman'd permanently and come back next season so we can have a Cyberman companion.

I wish Heather was the companion she was hot

>>84382736
We I M Foreman now?

The Doctor Falls reviews when?

>>84378409

Spare Parts and World Enough and Time happen at the same time. Mondasian civilization develops along the same path regardless of where they are.

>>84380361
Shh, /pol/, back to your containment board. History DIDN'T happen!! Everything is a lie. Drumpf is god. Right? Fuck off out of /who/, neckbeard

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Season 3 has its issues, but damn if that's not a super solid block of 5 episodes.

>>84382526
>very original cliffhanger (more of an icebreaker)
>>84382552
It'll be 13, a brief glimpse, quick sentence; sort of like with Capaldi's eyes at the 50th.

>>84382903
Remove Utopia and The Sound of Drums and I'd agree there's a solid 3 episodes.

>>84382755
Well, most companions do leave. Part of the problem with Series 10 is that after Pyramid, we never got a real focus on Bill's life. So, this Cyberization feels abrupt.

>>84382768
True. But Moffat doesn't want to be seen as a hack.

>>84382861
That's terrifying. The Mondasians are fated to become Cybermen.

>>84382797
Bill is attractive in actual motion.

>>84382774
HANDLES

>>84382903
Yeah they're all great.

>>84382755
>Really, companions should start leaving off their own accord.
Honestly they really ought to. The showrunners clearly think that they have to be original with each companion's exit, which just ends up being really stupid and making the Doctor look bad. I would've thought Death in Heaven would make for a good exit for Clara, and Martha's exit was one of my favorites too. The idea that a companion just sees enough or has an experience that's just too much for them causing them to distance themselves is interesting, and while it's not incredibly happy, it's a lot happier than them getting killed off or having their memory wiped or some other bullshit.

>reverse Adric

>>84382918
>Bill is attractive in actual motion.
ha

>>84382918
>Bill is attractive in actual motion.
What did he mean by this?

>>84382918
>Well, most companions do leave.
Not in NuWho. Rose got tossed into parallel universe, Donna got mindwiped, Amy and Rory got stranded in the past and Clara died. Now Bill is converted. Only Martha left off her own free will.

I believe being fanboys RTD and Moff have hard time imagining wanting to leave Doctor.

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>>84382918

bill is not attractive

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>>84383016

>>84382918
I think if they're gonna kill Bill (ha), they should've done it in The Lie of the Land. The whole episode is about a mess she created, and to have her end up sacrificing herself to fix it would be a much more earned ending than the "BILL YOUR MOM JUST WENT VIRAL" crap.
Having her die despite doing nothing wrong here, just as a "hey look the master is evil" just makes Bill feel like a pawn rather than a character.

>>84382980
>>84382981
What I said. Bill's cheer and good humor bumps her attractiveness up.

>>84383007
That's probably the reason. RTD and Moff are the type who wouldn't want to leave. Maybe now, since they have families.

Actually, that might have been interesting. What if, by the time Twelve and Nardole had found her, Bill had a family on board, and so didn't want to leave?

>>84383016
Alright, the filename got me kekking.

>>84383093
Should have killed her in Lie of the Land and then had her reappear only to get cyber converted.

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>>84383088
Wow, a 5/10 at best! Make way for a REAL woman.

>>84383007
>Clara dies

Lol, no she doesn't. She had the same fate as Amy/Rory, living a life of fun and adventure until she eventually decides to go back to Gallifrey, just like Amy and Rory were just beamed back in time and were allowed to live their lives to death.

I still don't get why 11 couldn't have gone to see them. Maybe not rescue them or bring them back to his time, but visit them, why not?

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Hot damn

>>84383149
Every Master actor on the cover except Delgado
Why live?

>>84383125
Jenna's hotter.

>>84383169
I SEE CRISPY

>>84383149
god I was actually looking forward to seeing missy turn good

>>84383149
I wish I could get this but only my comic shop has DWM and I don't think they'll have this one yet.

>>84383170
Either way, Jenna and Karen are LEAGUES above Pearl.

>>84383169
RIP Eric Roberts and Gordon Tipple

>>84383169
Where's Eric Roberts?

>>84383189
S-she will, right?
The fact that Simm!Master is "CONCERNED FOR HIS OWN FUTURE" suggests that he believes that she is genuinely going to side with the Doctor.

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>>84383198
That I can agree on.

>>84383189
Might be misdirection, or Missy might betray her older self.

>>84383169
Also, Jacobi and Macqueen.

>>84383219
>Macqueen
No need to get non-canon about it, anon.

>>84383169
>>84383210
Don't forgett Peter Pratt.

>>84382213
Jenna Coleman but she has to be topless all the time.

>>84383235
Macqueen is literally chilling.
The fucking eyes, man.

>>84383218
Fuck, if a female Doctor looked like this, I would actually like it.

Oh poo, you're right. I completely mind-farted on the others

>>84383216
She'll probably get shot by Simm and Simm will shoot her.

Boom, double regeneration.

>>84383237
Honestly, Beevers makes me forget about Pratt.

>>84383295
The 'I would never be so self destructive' is so fucking ominous.

>>84383248
The sad thing is that Jenna's tits aren't that great uncovered. She went topless in Room at the Top, but it wasn't too hot.

>>84383302
*
And since Moffat loves ripping off Lawrence Miles in addition to that ominous line, I think that he might copy the IM Foreman thing, where something happens and each incarnation of himself regenerates.

>>84376995
>Ten considered the best Doctor

This makes me mad.

>>84383308
We've all seen that scene, but from a better angle and with better lighting they could look better.

what was the best title sequence

>>84374570
>All he has to do is say thank you
>thinking DW fans aren't the type of retards that follow you home (actually happened to Simm)
Also this article is full of misquote and bullshit.

>>84378614
>you've to like being in the spotlight if you like acting
Why do you think Simm does so much theatre instead of fucking Life On Mars season 11?

>>84383405
easily the one [spoilers]made by neon visuals[/spoilers]

>>84383431
lol well done

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>>84383405
I really like Matt's first one, but I don't think many else seem to. Probably one of my favorite renditions of the theme too.
I don't mind the concept of Peter's one with the whole clock thing, but the execution's really off, and the theme is awful.

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>>84383198
>Karen > Pearl

>>84383461
Hmm? What's so good about Pearl, hey?

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>>84383456
Another thing: I also unironically love the DW Tardis logo and think that the logo as it is used in the more recent seasons looks incomplete without it.

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>>84383484
THICC as fuck.
God tier DSLs
Can actually act

>>84383534
That's not thicc. Also, while I agree she has DSLs, her face is just too weird for that to be a plus.

>>84383534
>THICC as fuck.
Hardly, stop using words you don't understand.
Compare her to Karen in that police miniskirt - God fucking damn.
>God tier DSLs
Kek, her lips are just ugly and big, how on earth is that attractive?
>Can actually act
As can Karen, and Karen can do it without making autistic facial expressions for "drama."

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>>84383582
Too good for this world

>>84383534
>THICC as fuck.
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>84383600
I bet Matt wrecked her pussy

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I wish Jenna Coleman was my mother

>>84383600
STICC

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>>84383620
how does he do it

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>>84383620

>>84383248
Imagine, Doctor Whore.
She has a Sonic Vibrator.

>>84383628
What do you think Jenna's pussy smells like? Do you think Adam got a sniff?

>>84383826
Well, going by that Shabbyblue picture she can just use the regular sonic screwdriver

http://i.imgur.com/F2u3qNa.png

>>84381654
>better than Bad Wolf
what

>>84381878
>uplifting
The Doctor Dances
>depressing
Doomsday/WEAT
>scary
Dalek/Blink
>exciting
TDOTD/Blink
>funny
Love and Monsters (I find it really funny in a so bad it's good way)

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>>84383456
Overally Matt's first one is my favourite. I'm really split on his second one though. The first half, which is just a incoherent parade of bad special effects, but as soon as the credits start it becomes GOAT.
As for the music, Paul's Big Finish theme is my favourite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M_6f6tRR7s

>>84383938
>but as soon as the credits start it becomes GOAT.
I really like it too, but I hate the font used for the names (more specifically how wide the spacing on the letters is), and the texture on the logo just looks plain bad. The time vortex at the end looks really off to me too.

>>84383938
>Paul's Big Finish theme is my favourite.
Yeah, mine too. It's so eerie and yet so calming.

When was the last time we saw the time vortex?

World Enough and Time, 1960s edition KINO

World Enough and Time, 1960s edition KINO

World Enough and Time, 1960s edition KINO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6g71D3NXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6g71D3NXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6g71D3NXY

the cliffhanger is bradley for the christmas special

screecap this

>>84384231
Nardies scream actually spooked me that time

>>84384141
In The Name of the Doctor, with the factory default Tardis I believe.

>>84384141
world enough and time

>>84384256
Wasn't it in Deep Breath? Could've sworn it was.

>>84384231
Ha, the "It's a Mondasian Cyberman" things really fits with the 60's style

>>84384231
Well made.

>>84380961
We'd all like to choke Peri but that doesn't make him a good Doctor.

>>84384412
I'd like Peri to choke on my cock

i've seen the doctor falls

12 tries to save bill but in the end she chooses to die, nardole leaves to help another colony. missy fucks over simm and joins with 12. 12 is badly injured at the end leading into the christmas special. yes bradley appears

>>84383213
he's the one with beard

>>84384514
no, my fault

>>84383628
This was from Asylum wasn't it? Looks like she still has some chub on her before shedding it all for Series 7b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6g71D3NXY

calling it now: because he held his regen in for so fucking long, it's gonna fuck up badly and mean that the Doctor keeps switching between all his different incarnations (ala The Eleven from audios). This is how we'll see Bradley and maybe even Matt Smith.

At the end of Christmas, it will stabilise on 13.

>>84384692
Sounds Dimensions in Time tier

>>84384692
its about 12 and 1 coming to terms with their regeneration together

>>84384743
Sounds like more Moffat wanking himself.

>>84384692
Not even remotely likely, anon.

>>84384743
why the fuck does peter get such special treatment

>>84384790
we're talking about Steven Moffat's last episode, anon

>>84384822
>he thinks moffat is leaving

hahahahahahaha

>"Oh, good fellow, It's far from being all over. We have a planet to save!"

BRAVO MOFFAT

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>>84384836

>>84384692
The Eleven made me want to kill myself until the latest DC when he actually sounded threatening.

Doctor Poo and the Mondassian Diapermen

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSWX4dRY0BY

The 13th Doctor telling the story of the Great Fire of London

Just seen the episode, everything since Extremis has been a simulation. But yes, Bradley is the cliffhanger.

>>84385364
Does 12 regenerate into Bradley?

>>84385385
Yes.

https://www.rangerboard.com/showpost.php?p=5422967&postcount=1835

Is that supposed to be Bradley in this picture?

>>84385469
I'm confused why such a fuss has been made about this picture on /who/ the last couple of days. I thought it was weeks old.

Am I confusing it with that blurry Simm/Capaldi shot from ages ago?

>>84385507
>Am I confusing it with that blurry Simm/Capaldi shot from ages ago?
yes

>>84385507
It can't be weeks old because filming for the christmas special just started.

nu thread when?

>>84385571
suc my dic

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>>84385528
>>84385553
Oh well in that case: see pic

objective nuwho season rankings


>GREAT TIER
Series 8
Series 9
Series 10

>GOOD TIER
Series 5
Series 1

>MEH TIER
Series 3
Series 4

>BAD TIER
Series 2
Series 6
Series 7

>>84385664
it's not objective, it's subjective

>>84385613
>tfw only two more episodes until the golden age is over

Bradley will soften the blow at least.

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>>84385748
>moffat era
>golden age
whatever you say, mate

I will miss Capaldi a lot though

Getting the new thread

>>84385801
you're just mad matt that you never got good stories like capaldi

you LEFT TOO SOON, YOU BLEW IT

>>84385626
n i c e o n e d u d e

>>84383169
You have a very broad sense of "every". And technically speaking, that's Nyssa's dad, not the Master.

>>84385865
>>84385865
>>84385865


MIGRATE

>>84385870
I said I was doing it you retard
We almost had two threads up AGAIN

>>84385890
>WAAAHHHH

>>84385890
I'm sorry I didn't see it

>>84385942
It's fine, nothing happened
But we should all probably give notice before making a thread, there have been far too many duplicates recently

>>84381422
Alright, I don't like anylizing and I can't really think about whether a series is good or not.

Please tell me why:
-series 4 is considered so good
-series 6 and 5 are considered bad

>>84386015
>6 and 5
meant 6 and 7